date:20160112

That link has Gary's CAD renderings, pictures of your boat, pictures of my
boat, and pictures of Tom's boat.

I think I even put Gary's actual .DWG files in there too if someone wanted
to make modifications the CAD.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA

Josh
On Jan 12, 2016 9:11 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> That's weird, they worked this afternoon, now they don't.
>
> The links were off someone's (your's?) Google Drive location here:
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>
> DSC08375.JPG and DSC08375~2.jpg
>
> I have my original photos somewhere online too.  I'll look for them.
>
> One photo is here (massive link):
>
>
> http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4L1lMUQa4DUssUfk7d0QYVRXTWSvKV17xTishS0ezb5UnzWEzdAPo7-C1GdCoHC1B92jFLTXP5OMnxJQ64d23i0ZEI2uA_K7hCi9JegUZoEca5KOw7GsVOZTZU5kUqqQiNXcRzr1QfLbQO3dnVznz10smU_LcectjN0PxSwMEwnlx2M0k07ggXtGf_Kr0S3aXguH8_WUDuesYuM7_-uxPzZ4Vc0A6xVwVdB7WxNZvoUQLxYNO3yvyp7b7_VUl-nJxPtNiX44EzIYZW5yG9LQkD3aH08o1MbSZv7uhvEg72P1jv4v0Mo_0QWyg3-4Z8qY84s61_nfF44sp-p8lDim_snD7NQz8IH8vBUmp0sIThQg_qZ4uV2h0y4H7VhM4R6bnnm4pPLKQCVluFGuMHEhrSyyuvgqHV2x1gZR_roZZzXJdqBsqUWDxQaCXKfa9z3kMdO1eBnATxb5JUOrWPkCZP-XGJruSCRkCNU4AcJUR10kj9ERMxj1v4h9Zy4jrHSGy2ANrIwYBDV6NOM3dBQGT4WTum7hMfugbS8l60V-yV6kbUbcfK401nMBMOdMOvg_jv2G=w1434-h1075-no
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On 12 January 2016 at 21:53, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> FYI,  neither my wife or I were able to open the links.  We tried both
>> our phones and the desktop.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>> On Jan 12, 2016 3:15 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>
>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>
>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link
>>> to one of those photos:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> ...and in context:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
>>> recessed and then infill painted.
>>>
>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
>>> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>
>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>
>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>> satisfaction.
>>>
>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>>> business days).
>>>
>>> Quantity  Product Unit Price
>>> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
>>> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
>>> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
>>>
>>>
>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>> drop some.
>>>
>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>>> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
>>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>
>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>>> Setup
>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>
>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>
>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>
>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

Haha that's funny.  Yes that's the link to my google drive.  Here I was
stealing your pictures and you were referring to your own stolen pictures.
I thought maybe you had taken new pictures with a better perspective.

Josh
On Jan 12, 2016 9:11 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi Josh,
>
> That's weird, they worked this afternoon, now they don't.
>
> The links were off someone's (your's?) Google Drive location here:
> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit
>
> DSC08375.JPG and DSC08375~2.jpg
>
> I have my original photos somewhere online too.  I'll look for them.
>
> One photo is here (massive link):
>
>
> http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4L1lMUQa4DUssUfk7d0QYVRXTWSvKV17xTishS0ezb5UnzWEzdAPo7-C1GdCoHC1B92jFLTXP5OMnxJQ64d23i0ZEI2uA_K7hCi9JegUZoEca5KOw7GsVOZTZU5kUqqQiNXcRzr1QfLbQO3dnVznz10smU_LcectjN0PxSwMEwnlx2M0k07ggXtGf_Kr0S3aXguH8_WUDuesYuM7_-uxPzZ4Vc0A6xVwVdB7WxNZvoUQLxYNO3yvyp7b7_VUl-nJxPtNiX44EzIYZW5yG9LQkD3aH08o1MbSZv7uhvEg72P1jv4v0Mo_0QWyg3-4Z8qY84s61_nfF44sp-p8lDim_snD7NQz8IH8vBUmp0sIThQg_qZ4uV2h0y4H7VhM4R6bnnm4pPLKQCVluFGuMHEhrSyyuvgqHV2x1gZR_roZZzXJdqBsqUWDxQaCXKfa9z3kMdO1eBnATxb5JUOrWPkCZP-XGJruSCRkCNU4AcJUR10kj9ERMxj1v4h9Zy4jrHSGy2ANrIwYBDV6NOM3dBQGT4WTum7hMfugbS8l60V-yV6kbUbcfK401nMBMOdMOvg_jv2G=w1434-h1075-no
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On 12 January 2016 at 21:53, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> FYI,  neither my wife or I were able to open the links.  We tried both
>> our phones and the desktop.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Josh
>> On Jan 12, 2016 3:15 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>>> another option to put foreward.
>>>
>>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>>
>>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link
>>> to one of those photos:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> ...and in context:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>>
>>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
>>> recessed and then infill painted.
>>>
>>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
>>> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>>
>>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>>
>>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>>> satisfaction.
>>>
>>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>>> business days).
>>>
>>> Quantity  Product Unit Price
>>> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
>>> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
>>> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
>>>
>>>
>>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup
>>> Fee or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also
>>> drop some.
>>>
>>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>>> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
>>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>>
>>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>>> Setup
>>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>>
>>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>>
>>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>>
>>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>>> Quote Number: 46088
>>> Date: 2016

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

2016-01-12 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Hi Josh,

That's weird, they worked this afternoon, now they don't.

The links were off someone's (your's?) Google Drive location here:
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yUklxR0VXQUd0WjA/edit

DSC08375.JPG and DSC08375~2.jpg

I have my original photos somewhere online too.  I'll look for them.

One photo is here (massive link):

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4L1lMUQa4DUssUfk7d0QYVRXTWSvKV17xTishS0ezb5UnzWEzdAPo7-C1GdCoHC1B92jFLTXP5OMnxJQ64d23i0ZEI2uA_K7hCi9JegUZoEca5KOw7GsVOZTZU5kUqqQiNXcRzr1QfLbQO3dnVznz10smU_LcectjN0PxSwMEwnlx2M0k07ggXtGf_Kr0S3aXguH8_WUDuesYuM7_-uxPzZ4Vc0A6xVwVdB7WxNZvoUQLxYNO3yvyp7b7_VUl-nJxPtNiX44EzIYZW5yG9LQkD3aH08o1MbSZv7uhvEg72P1jv4v0Mo_0QWyg3-4Z8qY84s61_nfF44sp-p8lDim_snD7NQz8IH8vBUmp0sIThQg_qZ4uV2h0y4H7VhM4R6bnnm4pPLKQCVluFGuMHEhrSyyuvgqHV2x1gZR_roZZzXJdqBsqUWDxQaCXKfa9z3kMdO1eBnATxb5JUOrWPkCZP-XGJruSCRkCNU4AcJUR10kj9ERMxj1v4h9Zy4jrHSGy2ANrIwYBDV6NOM3dBQGT4WTum7hMfugbS8l60V-yV6kbUbcfK401nMBMOdMOvg_jv2G=w1434-h1075-no

Ken H.


On 12 January 2016 at 21:53, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> FYI,  neither my wife or I were able to open the links.  We tried both our
> phones and the desktop.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
> On Jan 12, 2016 3:15 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have
>> another option to put foreward.
>>
>> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel
>> name plates on each side of my cabin top.
>>
>> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to
>> one of those photos:
>>
>>
>> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>>
>> ...and in context:
>>
>>
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>>
>> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
>> recessed and then infill painted.
>>
>> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
>> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
>> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
>> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>>
>> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the
>> same as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below,
>> in Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right
>> now so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US
>> dollars.  As of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar
>> equals 0.70 US Dollar.
>>
>> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to
>> do that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
>> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
>> satisfaction.
>>
>> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
>> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
>> business days).
>>
>> Quantity  Product Unit Price
>> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
>> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
>> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
>>
>>
>> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee
>> or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop
>> some.
>>
>> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
>> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
>> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
>> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>>
>> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
>> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
>> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 
>> Setup
>> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
>> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>>
>> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
>> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
>> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>>
>> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
>> http://www.protocase.com/
>>
>> Other quote and contact info below:
>>
>>
>> Quotation - Shipping Included
>> Quote Number: 46088
>> Date: 2016-01-11
>> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
>> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
>> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
>> Email: sev...@protocase.com
>> Website: www.protocase.com
>>
>>
>> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
>> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
>> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
>> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AN

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

Ken,

FYI,  neither my wife or I were able to open the links.  We tried both our
phones and the desktop.

Thanks,
Josh
On Jan 12, 2016 3:15 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
>
> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have another
> option to put foreward.
>
> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel name
> plates on each side of my cabin top.
>
> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to
> one of those photos:
>
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>
> ...and in context:
>
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>
> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
> recessed and then infill painted.
>
> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>
> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the same
> as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, in
> Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right now
> so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US dollars.  As
> of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US
> Dollar.
>
> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to do
> that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
> satisfaction.
>
> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
> business days).
>
> Quantity  Product Unit Price
> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
>
>
> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee
> or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop some.
>
> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>
> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 Setup
> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>
> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>
> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
> http://www.protocase.com/
>
> Other quote and contact info below:
>
>
> Quotation - Shipping Included
> Quote Number: 46088
> Date: 2016-01-11
> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
> Email: sev...@protocase.com
> Website: www.protocase.com
>
>
> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>
> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Shirley Evely 
> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>
>
> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>
>
>
> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of different
> qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for different
> volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you wish to
> order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2 business
> days)
>
>
>
> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>
>
>
> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
> *To:* Shirley Evely
> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>
>
>
> Hello Christin,
>
>
>
> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
> you.

Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

2016-01-12 Thread Dave via CnC-List

Agreed on ventilation.  We had a venture 22 20 years ago that had minor 
condensation issues.  I added a single passive dome  vent to the foredeck, 
issue solved.  It takes very little but constant air movement to make a real 
improvement.  Most production boats are very poor in this regard imo.  
The cs36t makes clever use of the anchor locker as a dorade vent.  

Dave 


> 
> I have installed a pair of 3? Nicro solar powered vents in place of the
> cowl vents on my dorade boxes. So now there is a 4? in the hatch in the
> salon, a 3? over the head, and a 3? over the passage to the v berth. Lots
> of ventilation, and no mildew since the installation. Air circulation seems
> to be the key.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> 
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Pete
> Shelquist via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:44 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Pete Shelquist 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
> 
> 
> 
> Josh ?
> 
> I?ve used lemon oil and have not had any mildew issues.  However, we do
> try to ventilate the boat well.

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

Hey Ken,

I'm very interested. I've always loved the way yours look. Since we're
sorta in a design phase I'd like to come up with something that we can all
agree on. "All" includes anyone that might be interested regardless of
whether or not they own a 34+ or 37+ or any of their variants.

Design considerations would be the font of the C&C, the size of the plates,
the relationship of everything, the size of the sword and it's ratios.

I nominate Gary as the design guy. He's clearly demonstrated his
proficiency.

Gary, you've already done such a nice job which I greatly appreciate. If
you are pursuing your own solution in polycarbonate and are unwilling to be
the "design guy" I would understand. If not, I'd like to see what you can
come up with for this stainless steel solution. I think what you already
came up with is great and matches amazingly close to what was original. I
envision a melding of Ken's plate and your design.

-Instead of being raised as in yours, the characters and symbols would be
recessed.

-Per Ken, instead of being 1/4 inch thick it would be ~1/8th inch.

-The rim is directly on the edge and recessing it will make filling it with
paint challenging. I would eliminate the rim

-As Ken suggested, swords on the forward end and pointing forward.
Different one each for Port and Starboard.

-Slightly larger (1/2 inch added to height and width) so as to cover the
original hole and overlap by 1/4 inch on all sides

-As already discussed while you were originally designing yours, provide
options for various model numbers. As I see it, this is the option which
opens this project to all C&C owners.

-Maybe these "specs" could be kept and managed on the photo album for
future owners. A profit margin could be added with proceeds forwarded to
Stu.

-If we initially drum up enough interested owners I believe it would
justify a FREE set of plates for you. I'm thinking that if we get the per
plate price near $50 it would be very easy to justify.

Thanks a bunch Ken and Gary!

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
Hello Everybody,

While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have another
option to put foreward.

As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel name
plates on each side of my cabin top.

A few photos of them have been circulated in the past. Here is a link to
one of those photos:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791

...and in context:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791

The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
recessed and then infill painted.

Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).

Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the same
as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, in
Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right now
so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US dollars. As
of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US
Dollar.

These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to do
that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps as
soon as next week*). These guys (and girls) are into customer satisfaction.

46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
business days).

Quantity Product Unit Price
1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
1Setup Fee $70.00
1Design Services Fee $40.00

A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee or
the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop some.

By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
Services Fee for the entire order. So a group order, allowing them to make
plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.

Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 Setup
Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.

They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
attachments. Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
bandwidth,

Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List


Hi Joel
I had to replace my AC panel, at some point it had a meter in it which 
had died and been torn out, looked bad.  And I wanted to fit a VHF 
adjacent.  So I had 2 rectangles cut and I drilled as required, and 
painted with black "hammered finish" spray - looks great.  And when I 
later replaced the panel above it I could easily paint to match.


Paneltronics will let you pick the exact labels you want and just buy 
them, so you don't end up with labels for "trim tab" and "annoyingly 
loud stereo"...


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-01-12 10:06 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has 
anyone either stripped to repainted theirs? I need to redo the labels 
anyhow.


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Annapolis
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Re: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

2016-01-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

I used routed out teak for mine. Looks great. I'll try to get pics tonight. 

Dennis C. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Wood... Of course!  Thanks Gary.  That will look far better than any plastic 
> cover.  
> Regarding the difference between my boat and yours - a previous owner did an 
> extensive interior renovation on my boat.  They also swapped out the 
> portlights and put in large Lexan pieces - as you can see the portlight trim 
> is not original.  So, while I'm not sure if they messed with the head area, 
> my boat is definitely not a "standard" 1976 30-1.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Boy, there is a LOT of difference between a ’76 30-1 and my ’80. The whole 
> head sink area is different – sink, cabinet, etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Why not get a piece of wood and groove the backside and either paint or 
> varnish. I’m not aware of any conduit which is pretty.
> 
>  
> 
> Gary
> 
> #593
> 
>  
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:
>> Hey all, 
>> 
>> I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all 
>> new low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are 
>> easy to conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.  However, 
>> in the head and in the V berth running the new wire between the cabin 
>> ceiling and the deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I opted 
>> to run the wire behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the bulkhead 
>> and the ceiling.  
>> 
>> I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover for 
>> wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic marine 
>> wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if anyone 
>> has something they've used with success on a boat.
>> 
>> There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current 
>> unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for any 
>> help!  
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

Lysol wipes seem to work well.
Joel

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, Chuck S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I use *Pinesol*  to remove mildew on wood. I thought it had natural
> pesticide properties.  Am I wrong?  It cleans nicely, smells great, removes
> a little of the old teak oil and I mix it so I don't have to rinse.  It
> probably would hold up better if I oiled the wood immediately after wiping
> down w Pinesol, but it looks so good, I usually just go sailing instead.
>
> I use *Tilex* on fiberglass.  I spray it on a sponge and wipe the
> fiberglass surface w the sponge, so not much is airborne to breathe.   I
> rinse the sponge in clean water but let the fiberglass air dry.
>
>
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Muckley via CnC-List"  >
> *To: *"C&C List"  >
> *Cc: *"Josh Muckley"  >
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:04:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
>
> Just curious Rick, why lemon oil then teak oil?
>
> FWI: I thought lemon oil was just that.  Oil from a lemon.  I assumed from
> the peel.  I even checked the bottles at the store very closely.  They are
> labeled very clearly and plainly as "Lemon Oil".  In small print on the
> back the only thing to the contrary is a statement which says something to
> the effect of, "Contains a minimum of 10% petroleum distillates".  I
> assumed that this was the solvent which carried the lemon oil.
>
> After researching my previous question to the list of "does lemon oil
> cause mildew?"  I found that most lemon oils are mineral oil with added
> scent and color.  In disbelief I re-read both bottles of lemon oil and then
> resorted to checking the MSDS.  To my dismay the MSDS confirmed that a
> significant portion (>90%) of "lemon oil" is just white mineral oil.  I
> went on to check the MSDS of some other wood oils (teak, watco, etc) most
> were a mixture of mineral oil and mineral spirits.  As I understand it
> woods like teak are so dense that a thinner/solvent is helpful in carrying
> the oil deeper into the wood pores.  One exception is Danish Oil which has
> polyurethane mixed in.  An additional exception is any oil which is a
> "drying oil" boiled linseed is one example and I think tung oil is another.
>
> If anybody is "into" essential oils I'm planning to make my own wood
> polish from mineral oil and tea tree oil.  I might try adding lemon too.
> The tea tree is evidently supposed to prevent mold and mildew.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 10, 2016 11:39 AM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List"  > wrote:
>
>> I’ve used lemon oil as a first coat before applying the teak oil for
>> several years. Not much problem with mildew, but I still got some. My
>> process was clean with  Pinesol or Murphy’s Oil Soap, apply lemon oil, then
>> apply teak oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have installed a pair of 3” Nicro solar powered vents in place of the
>> cowl vents on my dorade boxes. So now there is a 4” in the hatch in the
>> salon, a 3” over the head, and a 3” over the passage to the v berth. Lots
>> of ventilation, and no mildew since the installation. Air circulation seems
>> to be the key.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:44 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> *Cc:* Pete Shelquist > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh –
>>
>> I’ve used lemon oil and have not had any mildew issues.  However, we do
>> try to ventilate the boat well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2016 8:07 PM
>> *To:* C&C List
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, so under the advise of this list I used lemon oil at the beginning of
>> the 2015 season.  I chalked up the mildew this last fall to the unusually
>> high humidity and excessive rain.  That was until this evening when someone
>> told me that they had heard that the lemon oil gave the mildew something to
>> eat.
>>
>> Before I re-oil with lemon oil, anybody have any thoughts on this mildew
>> theory?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
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Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

2016-01-12 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List

I use Pinesol to remove mildew on wood. I thought it had natural pesticide 
properties. Am I wrong? It cleans nicely, smells great, removes a little of the 
old teak oil and I mix it so I don't have to rinse. It probably would hold up 
better if I oiled the wood immediately after wiping down w Pinesol, but it 
looks so good, I usually just go sailing instead. 

I use Tilex on fiberglass. I spray it on a sponge and wipe the fiberglass 
surface w the sponge, so not much is airborne to breathe. I rinse the sponge in 
clean water but let the fiberglass air dry. 



Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Muckley via CnC-List"  
To: "C&C List"  
Cc: "Josh Muckley"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:04:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew? 



Just curious Rick, why lemon oil then teak oil? 

FWI: I thought lemon oil was just that. Oil from a lemon. I assumed from the 
peel. I even checked the bottles at the store very closely. They are labeled 
very clearly and plainly as "Lemon Oil". In small print on the back the only 
thing to the contrary is a statement which says something to the effect of, 
"Contains a minimum of 10% petroleum distillates". I assumed that this was the 
solvent which carried the lemon oil. 

After researching my previous question to the list of "does lemon oil cause 
mildew?" I found that most lemon oils are mineral oil with added scent and 
color. In disbelief I re-read both bottles of lemon oil and then resorted to 
checking the MSDS. To my dismay the MSDS confirmed that a significant portion 
(>90%) of "lemon oil" is just white mineral oil. I went on to check the MSDS of 
some other wood oils (teak, watco, etc) most were a mixture of mineral oil and 
mineral spirits. As I understand it woods like teak are so dense that a 
thinner/solvent is helpful in carrying the oil deeper into the wood pores. One 
exception is Danish Oil which has polyurethane mixed in. An additional 
exception is any oil which is a "drying oil" boiled linseed is one example and 
I think tung oil is another. 

If anybody is "into" essential oils I'm planning to make my own wood polish 
from mineral oil and tea tree oil. I might try adding lemon too. The tea tree 
is evidently supposed to prevent mold and mildew. 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+ 
Solomons, MD 
On Jan 10, 2016 11:39 AM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
wrote: 





I’ve used lemon oil as a first coat before applying the teak oil for several 
years. Not much problem with mildew, but I still got some. My process was clean 
with Pinesol or Murphy’s Oil Soap, apply lemon oil, then apply teak oil. 



I have installed a pair of 3” Nicro solar powered vents in place of the cowl 
vents on my dorade boxes. So now there is a 4” in the hatch in the salon, a 3” 
over the head, and a 3” over the passage to the v berth. Lots of ventilation, 
and no mildew since the installation. Air circulation seems to be the key. 



Rick Brass 

Washington, NC 








From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Pete 
Shelquist via CnC-List 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:44 AM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Pete Shelquist < pete.shelqu...@comcast.net > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew? 




Josh – 

I’ve used lemon oil and have not had any mildew issues. However, we do try to 
ventilate the boat well. 






From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Josh 
Muckley via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 8:07 PM 
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew? 




Ok, so under the advise of this list I used lemon oil at the beginning of the 
2015 season. I chalked up the mildew this last fall to the unusually high 
humidity and excessive rain. That was until this evening when someone told me 
that they had heard that the lemon oil gave the mildew something to eat. 

Before I re-oil with lemon oil, anybody have any thoughts on this mildew 
theory? 

Thanks, 

Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+ 
Solomons, MD 

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

Ray allows use of free charts.im waiting for my SignalK box.
Joel

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> AC is particularly helpful with destination planning but the part I miss
> on my chartplotter is the anchorages and hazards which include shoaling and
> Nav-aid errors.  Additionally, with active captain integrated into the
> chartplotter I would be more likely to update those pieces of information.
> As it stands I can mark the hazards with waypoints but then have to
> transfer that info later...Which never happens.
>
> E-boat cards is an extension of AC which broadcasts your location to your
> boating friends...and their's to you.  Again this is something that would
> be nice to have at the helm.
>
> Another technology that is on the horizon which may or may not yet be
> integrated into ANY chartplotters is SignalK.  SignalK doesn't just allow
> you to wirelessly view all of your own ship's info but theoretically allows
> your info to be shared to the cloud and others in real time.  We're talking
> wave heights, depth, current, wind speed, wind direction, barometric
> pressure, air temp, and water temp.  Imagine being able to see instantly
> the conditions which others were experiencing!
>
> Does anyone know if any of the current chartplotters allow importing of
> GRIBS?  What about importing the free vector/raster charts?
>
> From my research, all of the above features are either available or being
> worked on in the open source world of OpenCPN, Openplotter, or Navigatrix.
> A marinized, 12v, touchscreen, monitor can display all of this at the helm.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Jan 12, 2016 10:36 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > Edd already has the Ray autopilot.  I find Active Captain useful for
> planning, but don't use it at the helm. That's just me.
> >
> > B&G apparently is adding ethernet ports to their units which will make
> it easier to integrate with PCs etc.  NMEA 2000 makes stuff slightly less
> proprietary, but you may not get full function on other brands products.
> >
> > Joel
> > 35/3
> > Annapolis
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> As a huge fan of Active Captain.  I urge you to both try AC and verify
> that your prospective chart plotter/MFD works with AC.
> >>
> >> I too looked at the Raymarine MFDs and talked to one of their sales
> reps at the Annapolis Boat show.  I was disappointed with the lack of open
> source compatability.  It seemed like a collection of solid products that
> integrate really well with one another to create a lot of powerful
> features.  Unfortunately, it appeared that a lot of those powerful features
> where lost if the individual components were not matched with other
> Raymarine products in the same vintage.  So, as long as you buy the entire
> package and plan to keep the entire package (auto-helm, chartplotter(s),
> radar, network, remote apps via phone/tablet) together as a system (more or
> less forever) then it will probably be fully satisfying.
> >>
> >> My experiences with technology have been that anything proprietary
> eventually goes out of style.  I said this about the iPhone 30 pin
> connector and now look at all the car stereos and home audio  accessories
> that no longer integrate as beautifully as they used to.
> >>
> >> YMMV
> >>
> >> Josh Muckley
> >> S/V Sea Hawk
> >> 1989 C&C 37+
> >> Solomons, MD
> >>
> >> On Jan 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Listers,
> >>>
> >>> So I was at the NY Boat Show this past weekend and took a good look at
> the Raymarine e-Series (specifically the e9 one). Built-in GPS and data
> display of other information hooked up to the system (including my new
> Raymarine EV200 autopilot.)
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have one? Pros? Cons? The price seems very low given all
> it does, especially compared to the cost of my current Garmin GPSMap2006C.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All the best,
> >>>
> >>> Edd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Edd M. Schillay
> >>> Starship Enterprise
> >>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> >>> City Island, NY
> >>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

AC is particularly helpful with destination planning but the part I miss on
my chartplotter is the anchorages and hazards which include shoaling and
Nav-aid errors.  Additionally, with active captain integrated into the
chartplotter I would be more likely to update those pieces of information.
As it stands I can mark the hazards with waypoints but then have to
transfer that info later...Which never happens.

E-boat cards is an extension of AC which broadcasts your location to your
boating friends...and their's to you.  Again this is something that would
be nice to have at the helm.

Another technology that is on the horizon which may or may not yet be
integrated into ANY chartplotters is SignalK.  SignalK doesn't just allow
you to wirelessly view all of your own ship's info but theoretically allows
your info to be shared to the cloud and others in real time.  We're talking
wave heights, depth, current, wind speed, wind direction, barometric
pressure, air temp, and water temp.  Imagine being able to see instantly
the conditions which others were experiencing!

Does anyone know if any of the current chartplotters allow importing of
GRIBS?  What about importing the free vector/raster charts?

>From my research, all of the above features are either available or being
worked on in the open source world of OpenCPN, Openplotter, or Navigatrix.
A marinized, 12v, touchscreen, monitor can display all of this at the helm.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Jan 12, 2016 10:36 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" 
wrote:
>
> Edd already has the Ray autopilot.  I find Active Captain useful for
planning, but don't use it at the helm. That's just me.
>
> B&G apparently is adding ethernet ports to their units which will make it
easier to integrate with PCs etc.  NMEA 2000 makes stuff slightly less
proprietary, but you may not get full function on other brands products.
>
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> As a huge fan of Active Captain.  I urge you to both try AC and verify
that your prospective chart plotter/MFD works with AC.
>>
>> I too looked at the Raymarine MFDs and talked to one of their sales reps
at the Annapolis Boat show.  I was disappointed with the lack of open
source compatability.  It seemed like a collection of solid products that
integrate really well with one another to create a lot of powerful
features.  Unfortunately, it appeared that a lot of those powerful features
where lost if the individual components were not matched with other
Raymarine products in the same vintage.  So, as long as you buy the entire
package and plan to keep the entire package (auto-helm, chartplotter(s),
radar, network, remote apps via phone/tablet) together as a system (more or
less forever) then it will probably be fully satisfying.
>>
>> My experiences with technology have been that anything proprietary
eventually goes out of style.  I said this about the iPhone 30 pin
connector and now look at all the car stereos and home audio  accessories
that no longer integrate as beautifully as they used to.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> So I was at the NY Boat Show this past weekend and took a good look at
the Raymarine e-Series (specifically the e9 one). Built-in GPS and data
display of other information hooked up to the system (including my new
Raymarine EV200 autopilot.)
>>>
>>> Does anyone have one? Pros? Cons? The price seems very low given all it
does, especially compared to the cost of my current Garmin GPSMap2006C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Edd
>>>
>>>
>>> Edd M. Schillay
>>> Starship Enterprise
>>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>> City Island, NY
>>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?

Just curious Rick, why lemon oil then teak oil?

FWI: I thought lemon oil was just that.  Oil from a lemon.  I assumed from
the peel.  I even checked the bottles at the store very closely.  They are
labeled very clearly and plainly as "Lemon Oil".  In small print on the
back the only thing to the contrary is a statement which says something to
the effect of, "Contains a minimum of 10% petroleum distillates".  I
assumed that this was the solvent which carried the lemon oil.

After researching my previous question to the list of "does lemon oil cause
mildew?"  I found that most lemon oils are mineral oil with added scent and
color.  In disbelief I re-read both bottles of lemon oil and then resorted
to checking the MSDS.  To my dismay the MSDS confirmed that a significant
portion (>90%) of "lemon oil" is just white mineral oil.  I went on to
check the MSDS of some other wood oils (teak, watco, etc) most were a
mixture of mineral oil and mineral spirits.  As I understand it woods like
teak are so dense that a thinner/solvent is helpful in carrying the oil
deeper into the wood pores.  One exception is Danish Oil which has
polyurethane mixed in.  An additional exception is any oil which is a
"drying oil" boiled linseed is one example and I think tung oil is another.

If anybody is "into" essential oils I'm planning to make my own wood polish
from mineral oil and tea tree oil.  I might try adding lemon too.  The tea
tree is evidently supposed to prevent mold and mildew.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 10, 2016 11:39 AM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I’ve used lemon oil as a first coat before applying the teak oil for
> several years. Not much problem with mildew, but I still got some. My
> process was clean with  Pinesol or Murphy’s Oil Soap, apply lemon oil, then
> apply teak oil.
>
>
>
> I have installed a pair of 3” Nicro solar powered vents in place of the
> cowl vents on my dorade boxes. So now there is a 4” in the hatch in the
> salon, a 3” over the head, and a 3” over the passage to the v berth. Lots
> of ventilation, and no mildew since the installation. Air circulation seems
> to be the key.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Pete
> Shelquist via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:44 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Pete Shelquist 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
>
>
>
> Josh –
>
> I’ve used lemon oil and have not had any mildew issues.  However, we do
> try to ventilate the boat well.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2016 8:07 PM
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Stus-List Lemon oil cause mildew?
>
>
>
> Ok, so under the advise of this list I used lemon oil at the beginning of
> the 2015 season.  I chalked up the mildew this last fall to the unusually
> high humidity and excessive rain.  That was until this evening when someone
> told me that they had heard that the lemon oil gave the mildew something to
> eat.
>
> Before I re-oil with lemon oil, anybody have any thoughts on this mildew
> theory?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
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Re: Stus-List Subject: Re: Clean-looking wire conduit

Thanks Dave that's true as well.  I think I'm going to try my hand at using
some routed-out wood trim pieces and see how that goes...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Dave Syer via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> You might look at electrical/data “raceway” from companies like Panduit,
> Hubbell, Wiremold.   They each have a range of sizes, plastic, metal,
> etc.   Easy to work with, procure.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
> Doyle via CnC-List
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:45 AM
>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> Cc: Ryan Doyle 
>
> Subject: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all
> new low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are
> easy to conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.
> However, in the head and in the V berth running the new wire between the
> cabin ceiling and the deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I
> opted to run the wire behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the
> bulkhead and the ceiling.
>
>
>
> I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover
> for wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic
> marine wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if
> anyone has something they've used with success on a boat.
>
>
>
> There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current
> unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for
> any help!
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M
>
> Sent from Mail  for
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>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

2016-01-12 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

The alloy they have in stock is A240 TP304 2B

On 12 January 2016 at 16:13, Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
>
> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have another
> option to put foreward.
>
> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel name
> plates on each side of my cabin top.
>
> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to
> one of those photos:
>
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>
> ...and in context:
>
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>
> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
> recessed and then infill painted.
>
> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
> boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
> this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
> and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).
>
> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the same
> as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, in
> Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right now
> so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US dollars.  As
> of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US
> Dollar.
>
> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to do
> that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps
> as soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer
> satisfaction.
>
> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
> days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
> business days).
>
> Quantity  Product Unit Price
> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
>
>
> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee
> or the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop some.
>
> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
> drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
> Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
> plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.
>
> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
> toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
> 37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 Setup
> Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
> exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
>
> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
> attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
> bandwidth, so I didn't try.
>
> This is the company's website (if you'r curious):
> http://www.protocase.com/
>
> Other quote and contact info below:
>
>
> Quotation - Shipping Included
> Quote Number: 46088
> Date: 2016-01-11
> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
> Phone: 1-866-849-3911
> Email: sev...@protocase.com
> Website: www.protocase.com
>
>
> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
> PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
> AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
> LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.
>
> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
>
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Shirley Evely 
> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
> To: kenhea...@gmail.com
>
>
> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
>
>
>
> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of different
> qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for different
> volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you wish to
> order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2 business
> days)
>
>
>
> Thank you and I look forward to your response.
>
>
>
> Christin on behalf of Shirley
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
> *To:* Shirley Evely
> *Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
>
>
>
> Hello Christin,
>
>
>
> A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded
> corners, drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank
> you.
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely

Stus-List Subject: Re: Clean-looking wire conduit

2016-01-12 Thread Dave Syer via CnC-List

You might look at electrical/data “raceway” from companies like Panduit, 
Hubbell, Wiremold.   They each have a range of sizes, plastic, metal, etc.  
 Easy to work with, procure.

Dave


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:45 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ryan Doyle 
Subject: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

 

Hey all, 

I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all new 
low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are easy to 
conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.  However, in the 
head and in the V berth running the new wire between the cabin ceiling and the 
deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I opted to run the wire 
behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the bulkhead and the ceiling.  

I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover for 
wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic marine 
wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if anyone has 
something they've used with success on a boat.

There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current 
unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for any 
help!  

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

2016-01-12 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List

Ken, Count me in for a set of each side on a group order if that can be 
established.  Let me know when and how to pay for same. Thx

Rick
Paikea37+
cell: (509)3061094
rickroh...@gmail.com
Ship to: PO Box 892,Gig Harbor, WA  98335


> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Everybody,
> 
> While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have another 
> option to put foreward.
> 
> As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel name 
> plates on each side of my cabin top.
> 
> A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to one 
> of those photos:
> 
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791
>  
> 
> 
> ...and in context:
> 
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791
>  
> 
> 
> The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols 
> recessed and then infill painted.
> 
> Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the boat 
> last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes this sort 
> of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities and regularly ships 
> all over North America (and Europe).
> 
> Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the same as 
> mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, in Canadian 
> dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right now so the US 
> members on the list will pay considerably less in US dollars.  As of a few 
> minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US Dollar.
> 
> These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to do 
> that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, perhaps as 
> soon as next week).  These guys (and girls) are into customer satisfaction.
> 
> 46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business days. 
> Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2 business days).
> 
> Quantity  Product Unit Price 
> 1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
> 1Setup Fee   $70.00
> 1Design Services Fee $40.00
> 
> A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee or 
> the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop some.
> 
> By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price drops 
> to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design Services 
> Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make plates in 
> batches, makes sense for everybody.
> 
> Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing toward the 
> bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C 37/40+ or C&C 
> 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 Setup Fee (the 
> simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be exempt from 
> the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.
> 
> They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow attachments.  
> Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his bandwidth, so I didn't 
> try.
> 
> This is the company's website (if you'r curious): http://www.protocase.com/ 
> 
> 
> Other quote and contact info below:
> 
> Quotation - Shipping Included
> Quote Number: 46088
> Date: 2016-01-11
> Sales Person: Shirley Evely
> Valid Until: 2016-01-21
> Phone: 1-866-849-3911 
> Email: sev...@protocase.com 
> Website: www.protocase.com 
> 
> IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT PRICES 
> SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING AN ORDER 
> THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE LAYOUTS, 
> LETTERING AND DESIGN.
> 
> I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.
> 
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Shirley Evely mailto:sev...@protocase.com>>
> Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
> Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
> To: kenhea...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,
> 
>  
> 
> Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of different 
> qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for different 
> volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, wh

Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

2016-01-12 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

Mike,

I bet you can adjust that auto-dimming feature. I have a smaller unit (420) and 
it allows for adjusting the screen brightness (and auto-dimming). If I recall 
correctly, you press the power button (I think that the long press is off, so 
the short press should bring you to the brightness menu, though it might be the 
opposite) and you can adjust the brightness using the left-right panning 
buttons. Try it on yours, but probably, you don’t want to do it coming into a 
harbour at dusk.

Marek
“Legato”
Ottawa, ON

 
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List

Joel, you must have a different panel setup than I do. Mine is matte black
plastic.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Stus-List Fwd: Stainless steel name plates (46088)

2016-01-12 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Hello Everybody,

While we are on the subject of C&C 37+ nameplates for sale, I have another
option to put foreward.

As some of you already know, my boat has custom made stainless steel name
plates on each side of my cabin top.

A few photos of them have been circulated in the past.  Here is a link to
one of those photos:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/gh_Za0epuiPkRaZG8fo1NJPE0LDMN2ciJXnWeEGp-rNpYrfVT6JnE_285WjjvuqE_AW-tQ=w1896-h791

...and in context:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/hWpYcECinHHDMdWwInzVRGSJhWrC0uqlrxElnqjjJWAQZ5gtjFCJUWEJmMCBAK2CnQIuFw=w1896-h791

The plates are made of 11 gauge (1/8") stainless,the letters and symbols
recessed and then infill painted.

Because of the ongoing discussion of name plates I removed mine from the
boat last week and took them to a local business (Protocase) that makes
this sort of thing and specializes in one offs and small quantities
and regularly ships all over North America (and Europe).

Protocase tells me they can easily reproduce these plates exactly the same
as mine or any variation of that layout for the prices listed below, in
Canadian dollars. Remember, the Canadian dollar is in the toilet right now
so the US members on the list will pay considerably less in US dollars.  As
of a few minutes ago (according to Google) 1 Canadian Dollar equals 0.70 US
Dollar.

These prices DO NOT include the infill paint, this shop isn't set up to do
that yet (they hope to be able to offer this service very soon, *perhaps as
soon as next week*).  These guys (and girls) are into customer satisfaction.

46088-1 NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-) Quantity 1 Lead Time: 2-3 business
days. Shipping is also included in these prices, not extra (FedEx- 2
business days).

Quantity  Product Unit Price
1NAME PLATE (C&C 37+) REV(-)$130.98
1Setup Fee   $70.00
1Design Services Fee $40.00


A second, identical plate would not incur an additional $70.00 Setup Fee or
the $40.00 Design Services Fee AND the Unit Price would also drop some.

By the time you are ordering 10 or more IDENTICAL plates the unit price
drops to $53.00 each plus only one charge of the Setup Fee and the Design
Services Fee for the entire order.  So a group order, allowing them to make
plates in batches, makes sense for everybody.

Variations on the plate's layout (say, to have the sword pointing
toward the bow on each side of the boat) or lettering changes (to have C&C
37/40+ or C&C 37 XL or whatever) will incur some variation of the $70.00 Setup
Fee (the simpler the change the lower the set up fee) but probably will be
exempt from the $40.00 Design Fee for each variation on the theme.

They did provide a quote on a pdf but Stu's List doesn't allow
attachments.  Or if I could attach it, I didn't want to eat up his
bandwidth, so I didn't try.

This is the company's website (if you'r curious): http://www.protocase.com/

Other quote and contact info below:


Quotation - Shipping Included
Quote Number: 46088
Date: 2016-01-11
Sales Person: Shirley Evely
Valid Until: 2016-01-21
Phone: 1-866-849-3911
Email: sev...@protocase.com
Website: www.protocase.com


IF A GROUP ORDER CAN BE ASSEMBLED THEY WILL DISCOUNT ALL FEES AND UNIT
PRICES SO IF WE CAN ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH STU'S LIST IN ADVANCE OF PLACING
AN ORDER THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN.  THIS INCLUDES VARIATIONS ON THE
LAYOUTS, LETTERING AND DESIGN.

I hope this is reasonably clear, Any questions, fire away.

Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
S/V Salazar - Can 54955
C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia



-- Forwarded message --
From: Shirley Evely 
Date: 11 January 2016 at 12:11
Subject: RE: Stainless steel name plates (46088)
To: kenhea...@gmail.com


Hello Ken and welcome back to a new week,



Sounds great. Please see the quote attached. I have a couple of different
qty.’s included, but please let me know if you are looking for different
volumes. The setup fee is a one-time fee, which is waived if you wish to
order the same units again. Shipping is also included (FedEx- 2 business
days)



Thank you and I look forward to your response.



Christin on behalf of Shirley



*From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 5:18 PM
*To:* Shirley Evely
*Subject:* Re: Stainless steel name plates (46088)



Hello Christin,



A price on just making the plates to the correct size with rounded corners,
drilled, countersunk holes and the engraving would be fine, thank you.



Ken H.





On 8 January 2016 at 17:11, Shirley Evely  wrote:

Hello Ken,



It’s Christin here on Shirley’s behalf.



I would like to share more details/feedback from our Engineering team.



We can do the engraving but we can't fill the letters with paint, would you
like a quote for just the engraving?



The material is 11 gauge (1/8") stainless, which we do stock.



Please let me know if you ha

Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

Things like this all over Fleabay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Sea-8385-DC-8-Position-Horizontal-Electrical-Electrical-Panels-Boat-Marine-/281693722818?hash=item41964118c2:g:wLYAAOSwZd1VVrgb&vxp=mtr

Joe
Coquina

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

Of course...  I did have to cut out the bulkhead to accommodate it's larger 
size.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Ryan Doyle 
mailto:ryanpdo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Joel,
I wouldn't repaint an old panel.  I'd either leave it or replace it... 
replacing was an easy decision for me as I'm rewiring the entire boat 
ground-up.  I just installed a great little Blue Sea Systems panel on my boat 
in place of the original C&C unit.  It was $232 from Defender 
(http://search.defender.com/?expression=201822&x=0&y=0) and has 12 switches, it 
comes with labels, and it has lit "on" indicators.

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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ nameplates for sale

2016-01-12 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List

Gary,

if your stay did NOT make you an expert you may have grounds for false 
advertising.  VBG

Leslie.

On Tue, 1/12/16, Gary Russell via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ nameplates for sale
 To: "C&C List" 
 Cc: "Gary Russell" 
 Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016, 3:35 AM
 
 Hi Josh,   
  I  will try to get a quote for the stainless steel.  If
 I can get it, what kind of stainless do you want?  The
 choices will probably 308 or 316.  The 316 is more
 corrosion resistant, harder to machine and more expensive.
 I'm not an expert on this stuff (but I did stay at a
 Holiday Inn Express last  night 😀).
 Gary
 ~~~_/)~~
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016
 at 7:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 Interested in a quote for something in a polished
 chrome or stainless.
 Josh Muckley
 On Jan 11, 2016 6:36
 PM, "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" 
 wrote:
 Interested
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jan 11, 2016, at 14:47, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
 Well,
 I've got what I consider a reasonable quote for the
 nameplates.  I can supply them in black UV resistant
 polycarbonate for $75 each side plus shipping..  That
 includes everything including the NRE (non-recurring
 engineering charges).  The NRE is basically CAM charges). 
 I need to know who is interested.  I suspect I can  have
 them in about a week.  If there are similar nameplates for
 other C&C models, I can entertain getting them as
 well.  I don't know if I can get them in stainless
 steel, but if possible it will be quite a bit more expensive
 because of the small radii of some of the cuts.  A
 1/16" cutter moves very slow in stainlessSo let me
 know if you are interested.
 GaryS/V High
 Maintenance'90 C&C 37+East
 Greenwich, RI, USA
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread svpegasus38







I went with Paneltronics, a little cheaper than Blue Seas. Plus they had 
the size I needed. I was also able to order the panels with all labels where I 
wanted them. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-ListDate: Tue, Jan 
12, 2016 07:34To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com';Cc: Della Barba, Joe;Subject:Re: 
Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?
I went the Blue Sea way as well. Clever FleaBay scavenging will usually turn up 
a good deal.If anyone ever wants to custom-build their own panel, you can 
tryhttp://www.frontpanelexpress.com/. Their free design tool is kind of fun. 
JoeCoquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of 
Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Godwin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels? Joel, I had the same 
problem with mine and years ago I pulled everything out (which is also when I 
realized that a complete re-wire was in order) and sanded, painted and added 
new labels. I will say this, it wasn’t really worth the effort. Ergo why I 
ended up buying new Blue Sea panels. Cost and effort-wise it just made more 
sense for me and it allowed for a future increase in the number of breakers. 
But then I had to redo the backing panel to make them fit. And re-arrange the 
wiring. And upgrade the service to the panel. And then… Maybe painting them 
isn’t such a bad thing after-all. Best,Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake BayRonin’s Overdue Refit On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, 
Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote: The black paint on the 
aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone either stripped to repainted 
theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread David via CnC-List

Its amazing what 4' can do.   Lusting after that island berth...

Kind of hard to justify its amortization schedule though.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:06:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: csgilchr...@comcast.net

Looking at both the Toronto based 44 and the Massachusetts based 44, one looks 
the part of a pure racer and the other is far more cruiser friendly.As my 
sailing buddy told me, there are two types of sailboats, the ones you sit on 
and the ones you sit in.  These two boats illustrate that point.Chuck 
GilchrestHalf Magic1975 25 Mk 1 S/V Orion1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA  From: 
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tim Sippel 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809
  is at EYC in Toronto  Tim  From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon Mike, you’re right.the one in MA has 
been on the market for years………now priced at $97K while most others of that era 
are in the mid 60-75 
range………http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/C%26C-44-Wing-Keel-8280/Braintree/MA/United-States#.VpUfTPkrLrc
   From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, 
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon Zero is a relative number. Making a profit 
of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just with negative 
numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go on….. The one 
on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – maybe it 
could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other is a 
tired old scrap yard From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon However, if “flipping” a boat was in 
fashion..compared to the one for sale in MA……….same vintage for 
$119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a reality TV show……….. Ron C. 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon This is a horrible ad.  No information and 
not one decent picture of the boat. From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ed vanderkruk
Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809
Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.
45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?
Ed
Prime Interest
Toronto



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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread David via CnC-List

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:06:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: csgilchr...@comcast.net

Looking at both the Toronto based 44 and the Massachusetts based 44, one looks 
the part of a pure racer and the other is far more cruiser friendly.As my 
sailing buddy told me, there are two types of sailboats, the ones you sit on 
and the ones you sit in.  These two boats illustrate that point.Chuck 
GilchrestHalf Magic1975 25 Mk 1 S/V Orion1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA  From: 
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tim Sippel 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809
  is at EYC in Toronto  Tim  From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon Mike, you’re right.the one in MA has 
been on the market for years………now priced at $97K while most others of that era 
are in the mid 60-75 
range………http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/C%26C-44-Wing-Keel-8280/Braintree/MA/United-States#.VpUfTPkrLrc
   From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, 
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon Zero is a relative number. Making a profit 
of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just with negative 
numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go on….. The one 
on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – maybe it 
could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other is a 
tired old scrap yard From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon However, if “flipping” a boat was in 
fashion..compared to the one for sale in MA……….same vintage for 
$119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a reality TV show……….. Ron C. 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon This is a horrible ad.  No information and 
not one decent picture of the boat. From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ed vanderkruk
Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809
Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.
45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?
Ed
Prime Interest
Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

Wood... Of course!  Thanks Gary.  That will look far better than any
plastic cover.
Regarding the difference between my boat and yours - a previous owner
did an extensive interior renovation on my boat.  They also swapped
out the portlights and put in large Lexan pieces - as you can see the
portlight trim is not original.  So, while I'm not sure if they messed
with the head area,
my boat is definitely not a "standard" 1976 30-1.





--
Boy, there is a LOT of difference between a ’76 30-1 and my ’80. The
whole head sink area is different – sink, cabinet, etc.



Why not get a piece of wood and groove the backside and either paint
or varnish. I’m not aware of any conduit which is pretty.



Gary

#593




On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all
> new low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are
> easy to conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.
> However, in the head and in the V berth running the new wire between the
> cabin ceiling and the deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I
> opted to run the wire behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the
> bulkhead and the ceiling.
>
> I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover
> for wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic
> marine wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if
> anyone has something they've used with success on a boat.
>
> There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current
> unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for
> any help!
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List

Looking at both the Toronto based 44 and the Massachusetts based 44, one looks 
the part of a pure racer and the other is far more cruiser friendly.

As my sailing buddy told me, there are two types of sailboats, the ones you sit 
on and the ones you sit in.  These two boats illustrate that point.

Chuck Gilchrest

Half Magic

1975 25 Mk 1

 

S/V Orion

1983 35 Landfall

Padanaram, MA 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tim Sippel 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

 

 

is at EYC in Toronto 

 

Tim 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:50 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

Mike, you’re right.the one in MA has been on the market for years………now 
priced at $97K while most others of that era are in the mid 60-75 range………

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/C%26C-44-Wing-Keel-8280/Braintree/MA/United-States#.VpUfTPkrLrc
  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:13 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

Zero is a relative number.

 

Making a profit of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just 
with negative numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go 
on…..

 

The one on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – 
maybe it could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other 
is a tired old scrap yard

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Casciato 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

 

Ron C.

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed 
vanderkruk via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: ed vanderkruk
Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto






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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

Of course...  I did have to cut out the bulkhead to accommodate it's larger
size.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Ryan Doyle  wrote:

> Joel,
>
> I wouldn't repaint an old panel.  I'd either leave it or replace it...
> replacing was an easy decision for me as I'm rewiring the entire boat
> ground-up.  I just installed a great little Blue Sea Systems panel on my
> boat in place of the original C&C unit.  It was $232 from Defender (
> http://search.defender.com/?expression=201822&x=0&y=0) and has 12
> switches, it comes with labels, and it has lit "on" indicators.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

2016-01-12 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List

Boy, there is a LOT of difference between a ’76 30-1 and my ’80. The whole head 
sink area is different – sink, cabinet, etc.

 

Why not get a piece of wood and groove the backside and either paint or 
varnish. I’m not aware of any conduit which is pretty.

 

Gary

#593

 

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Subject: Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

 

Hey all, 

I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all new 
low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are easy to 
conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.  However, in the 
head and in the V berth running the new wire between the cabin ceiling and the 
deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I opted to run the wire 
behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the bulkhead and the ceiling.  

I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover for 
wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic marine 
wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if anyone has 
something they've used with success on a boat.

There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current 
unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for any 
help!  

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M

 

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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

Joel,

I wouldn't repaint an old panel.  I'd either leave it or replace it...
replacing was an easy decision for me as I'm rewiring the entire boat
ground-up.  I just installed a great little Blue Sea Systems panel on my
boat in place of the original C&C unit.  It was $232 from Defender (
http://search.defender.com/?expression=201822&x=0&y=0) and has 12 switches,
it comes with labels, and it has lit "on" indicators.
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

So these have the ground bus built into the panel?  Pretty sure I could
never match up the ground wires on my bus bar to the proper positive lead.
Nothing is labelled except the few wires I ran.

Maybe ugly aluminum is not so bad!

Joel



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> Joel,
>
> I see that Fred has beat me to the punch. I was looking at the ad and
> realized the same thing; there is a lot missing. Although not necessarily
> cheap the Blue Sea system panels are really, really fine items.
>
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
>
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Joel — I’d suggest you get one of the prebuilt panels, rather than just
> the plate.  There’s a lot more to them, like the backlighting and bus bars:
>
>
> http://www.go2marine.com/item/115675/dc-16-position-circuit-breaker-panel-8377-blue-seas-8377.html
>
> By the time you add all the backlighting, indicators and breakers to the
> bare panel, you’re going to have spent a LOT more money...
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'll have to measure to see if this fits:
>
>
> http://www.go2marine.com/product/113212F/c-series-mounting-panel-8-position-8087.html
>
> Of course, then the AC panel will look like crap ...
>
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Stus-List Clean-looking wire conduit

Hey all,

I'm finishing a complete rewire of my 1976 C&C 30 mki.  I've installed all
new low-draw LED lighting in the cabin.  In most places the new wires are
easy to conceal as I'm just routing them where the old wires were.
However, in the head and in the V berth running the new wire between the
cabin ceiling and the deck appeared extremely difficult or impossible, so I
opted to run the wire behind the cabinetry and out along the joint of the
bulkhead and the ceiling.

I am looking for a safe, flexible, and pleasing-looking conduit or cover
for wiring that my wife will approve of - not your standard black plastic
marine wire conduit.  Home depot sells a few covers, but I'm wondering if
anyone has something they've used with success on a boat.

There are photos of the head and V-berth lighting/wiring in their current
unsecured and un-hidden state at the links below.  Thanks in advance for
any help!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGeTIyN29PWTZpSDA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8g8d5sXYVWGRG9OZXN2a1JrX2M
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

Joel,

My thoughts.

1.  I built the AC and DC breaker panels for Touche' from scratch.  I used
Ancor 8 gang panels and installed the breakers.  They came out nice.  Would
I do it again?  NO!  I'd buy the appropriate Blue Sea panel with everything
pre-wired.  The only advantage I realized by building my own panels was
getting the exact size breakers I wanted for each circuit.  What I lost was
all the nice indicator lights and buss bars, etc behind the panel.

2. By the time you disassemble the old panel, clean it up, paint it (or get
it powder coated) you will wish you'd bought a new Blue Sea pre-made panel.

I just saw Fred's reply which echoes my feelings.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'll have to measure to see if this fits:
>
>
> http://www.go2marine.com/product/113212F/c-series-mounting-panel-8-position-8087.html
>
> Of course, then the AC panel will look like crap ...
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel:
>>
>> To get that panel looking new………will take some careful prep and then some
>> art work for the labels……….you might check out Marine Surplus
>> http://www.marinesurplusinc.comWe have one of their stores in
>> Sarasota and they have all sorts of panels, etc.  you might get lucky and
>> find one that would work for you………..new……….
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
>> Aronson via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:06 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?
>>
>>
>>
>> The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone
>> either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> 35/3
>>
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List

Joel, 

I see that Fred has beat me to the punch. I was looking at the ad and realized 
the same thing; there is a lot missing. Although not necessarily cheap the Blue 
Sea system panels are really, really fine items.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Joel — I’d suggest you get one of the prebuilt panels, rather than just the 
> plate.  There’s a lot more to them, like the backlighting and bus bars:
> 
> http://www.go2marine.com/item/115675/dc-16-position-circuit-breaker-panel-8377-blue-seas-8377.html
>  
> 
> 
> By the time you add all the backlighting, indicators and breakers to the bare 
> panel, you’re going to have spent a LOT more money...
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'll have to measure to see if this fits:
>> 
>> http://www.go2marine.com/product/113212F/c-series-mounting-panel-8-position-8087.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Of course, then the AC panel will look like crap ...
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List

The boat in the Kijiji ad has pipe berths and a dozen sails, and if the spec 
sheet in the photo is accurate an 8’4” draft and exposed toilet in the sail 
locket that takes up most of the bow. Probably a clapped out race boat.

 

The one on YW has a beautiful interior, a shoal keel with a big torpedo bulb, 
looks like someone has lavished attention on her. Would make a really nice fast 
cruising boat.

 

Two boats similar mostly in the model number only.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

Zero is a relative number.

 

Making a profit of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just 
with negative numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go 
on…..

 

The one on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – 
maybe it could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other 
is a tired old scrap yard

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
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Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

 

Ron C.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

 

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Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto

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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List

Joel — I’d suggest you get one of the prebuilt panels, rather than just the 
plate.  There’s a lot more to them, like the backlighting and bus bars:

http://www.go2marine.com/item/115675/dc-16-position-circuit-breaker-panel-8377-blue-seas-8377.html

By the time you add all the backlighting, indicators and breakers to the bare 
panel, you’re going to have spent a LOT more money...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 12, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll have to measure to see if this fits:
> 
> http://www.go2marine.com/product/113212F/c-series-mounting-panel-8-position-8087.html
>  
> 
> 
> Of course, then the AC panel will look like crap ...

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I'll have to measure to see if this fits:

http://www.go2marine.com/product/113212F/c-series-mounting-panel-8-position-8087.html

Of course, then the AC panel will look like crap ...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Joel:
>
> To get that panel looking new………will take some careful prep and then some
> art work for the labels……….you might check out Marine Surplus
> http://www.marinesurplusinc.comWe have one of their stores in
> Sarasota and they have all sorts of panels, etc.  you might get lucky and
> find one that would work for you………..new……….
>
>
>
> Ron C.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:06 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?
>
>
>
> The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone
> either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joel
>
> 35/3
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809


is at EYC in Toronto

Tim

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

Mike, you’re right.the one in MA has been on the market for years………now 
priced at $97K while most others of that era are in the mid 60-75 range………
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/C%26C-44-Wing-Keel-8280/Braintree/MA/United-States#.VpUfTPkrLrc

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Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

Zero is a relative number.

Making a profit of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just 
with negative numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go 
on…..

The one on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – 
maybe it could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other 
is a tired old scrap yard

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
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Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

Ron C.

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Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

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Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto





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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

Mike, you’re right.the one in MA has been on the market for years………now 
priced at $97K while most others of that era are in the mid 60-75 range………

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/C%26C-44-Wing-Keel-8280/Braintree/MA/United-States#.VpUfTPkrLrc
  

 

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

Zero is a relative number.

 

Making a profit of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just 
with negative numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go 
on…..

 

The one on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – 
maybe it could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other 
is a tired old scrap yard

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Ron Casciato
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

 

Ron C.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

 

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Cc: ed vanderkruk
Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto

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Joel:

To get that panel looking new………will take some careful prep and then some art 
work for the labels……….you might check out Marine Surplus 
http://www.marinesurplusinc.comWe have one of their stores in Sarasota and 
they have all sorts of panels, etc.  you might get lucky and find one that 
would work for you………..new……….

 

Ron C.

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

 

The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone 
either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.


 

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Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

Edd already has the Ray autopilot.  I find Active Captain useful for
planning, but don't use it at the helm. That's just me.

B&G apparently is adding ethernet ports to their units which will make it
easier to integrate with PCs etc.  NMEA 2000 makes stuff slightly less
proprietary, but you may not get full function on other brands products.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> As a huge fan of Active Captain.  I urge you to both try AC and verify
> that your prospective chart plotter/MFD works with AC.
>
> I too looked at the Raymarine MFDs and talked to one of their sales reps
> at the Annapolis Boat show.  I was disappointed with the lack of open
> source compatability.  It seemed like a collection of solid products that
> integrate really well with one another to create a lot of powerful
> features.  Unfortunately, it appeared that a lot of those powerful features
> where lost if the individual components were not matched with other
> Raymarine products in the same vintage.  So, as long as you buy the entire
> package and plan to keep the entire package (auto-helm, chartplotter(s),
> radar, network, remote apps via phone/tablet) together as a system (more or
> less forever) then it will probably be fully satisfying.
>
> My experiences with technology have been that anything proprietary
> eventually goes out of style.  I said this about the iPhone 30 pin
> connector and now look at all the car stereos and home audio  accessories
> that no longer integrate as beautifully as they used to.
>
> YMMV
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Jan 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> So I was at the NY Boat Show this past weekend and took a good look at
>> the Raymarine e-Series (specifically the e9 one). Built-in GPS and data
>> display of other information hooked up to the system (including my new
>> Raymarine EV200 autopilot.)
>>
>> Does anyone have one? Pros? Cons? The price seems very low given all it
>> does, especially compared to the cost of my current Garmin GPSMap2006C.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

I went the Blue Sea way as well. Clever FleaBay scavenging will usually turn up 
a good deal.
If anyone ever wants to custom-build their own panel, you can try 
http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/. Their free design tool is kind of fun.

Joe
Coquina

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Joel,

I had the same problem with mine and years ago I pulled everything out (which 
is also when I realized that a complete re-wire was in order) and sanded, 
painted and added new labels. I will say this, it wasn’t really worth the 
effort. Ergo why I ended up buying new Blue Sea panels. Cost and effort-wise it 
just made more sense for me and it allowed for a future increase in the number 
of breakers.

But then I had to redo the backing panel to make them fit. And re-arrange the 
wiring. And upgrade the service to the panel. And then…

Maybe painting them isn’t such a bad thing after-all.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone 
either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.

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35/3
The Office
Annapolis
301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

2016-01-12 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List

Joel,

I had the same problem with mine and years ago I pulled everything out (which 
is also when I realized that a complete re-wire was in order) and sanded, 
painted and added new labels. I will say this, it wasn’t really worth the 
effort. Ergo why I ended up buying new Blue Sea panels. Cost and effort-wise it 
just made more sense for me and it allowed for a future increase in the number 
of breakers.

But then I had to redo the backing panel to make them fit. And re-arrange the 
wiring. And upgrade the service to the panel. And then…

Maybe painting them isn’t such a bad thing after-all.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone 
> either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 35/3
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> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

As a huge fan of Active Captain.  I urge you to both try AC and verify that
your prospective chart plotter/MFD works with AC.

I too looked at the Raymarine MFDs and talked to one of their sales reps at
the Annapolis Boat show.  I was disappointed with the lack of open source
compatability.  It seemed like a collection of solid products that
integrate really well with one another to create a lot of powerful
features.  Unfortunately, it appeared that a lot of those powerful features
where lost if the individual components were not matched with other
Raymarine products in the same vintage.  So, as long as you buy the entire
package and plan to keep the entire package (auto-helm, chartplotter(s),
radar, network, remote apps via phone/tablet) together as a system (more or
less forever) then it will probably be fully satisfying.

My experiences with technology have been that anything proprietary
eventually goes out of style.  I said this about the iPhone 30 pin
connector and now look at all the car stereos and home audio  accessories
that no longer integrate as beautifully as they used to.

YMMV

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jan 11, 2016 1:11 PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Listers,
>
> So I was at the NY Boat Show this past weekend and took a good look at the
> Raymarine e-Series (specifically the e9 one). Built-in GPS and data display
> of other information hooked up to the system (including my new Raymarine
> EV200 autopilot.)
>
> Does anyone have one? Pros? Cons? The price seems very low given all it
> does, especially compared to the cost of my current Garmin GPSMap2006C.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List New roller furler

2016-01-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List

You  also need the pin sizes.  You should also reassure yourself that the
upper pins are the same size as the lower pins.  Don't take anything for
granted on a boat.

Dennis C.

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> So I asked for help a little while back thanks a bunch it was very helpful.
>
> I have a new problem. I measured the Head stay by pulling up a line with
> my halyard to the top.
> Then I measures the line. it was 39, 6"  the book tells me a approx
> length? My Boat is hin# 675
> Thank you. "I just need to know the forstay length to order the Furler"
>
> *Est. Forestay Length.:* 41.27' / 12.58m
>
>
>
>
> *Best regards,*
>
>
> *Curtis McDaniel, *
>
>
> *C&C 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*
>
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> didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
> from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

Zero is a relative number.

Making a profit of $4 on a flip is nice but -$4 is also a profit… just 
with negative numbers.  Kind of like the negative interest thing starting to go 
on…..

The one on YW is a beauty.  The one on kijiji is not even the same boat.  OK – 
maybe it could be the same model and year but one is a nivce boat and the other 
is a tired old scrap yard

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However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

Ron C.

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

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Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List Autohelm hand bearing compass

HI Ted:  I’ll take it……….I’ll send my info to you offline.  Thanks,  Ron

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Subject: Stus-List Autohelm hand bearing compass

I think that Ron C. was looking to replace his Autohelm hand bearing compass. 
They are great units. I have an extra one available for $75 USD if you're 
interested. Kept it as a spare on my other boat but that's for sale now so it 
won't be sold with the boat.   

Ted Drossos

C&C 29-2 H2OT (for sale)

C&C 110 Lady in Red

Long Island, NY  

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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

However, if “flipping” a boat was in fashion..compared to the one for sale 
in MA……….same vintage for $119K……….might be worth a project , maybe even a 
reality TV show………..

 

Ron C.

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

 

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Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

 

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto

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Stus-List Refinish/repaint breaker panels?

The black paint on the aluminum breaker panels looks its age.  has anyone
either stripped to repainted theirs?  I need to redo the labels anyhow.

-- 
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Annapolis
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Re: Stus-List Raymarine e-Series Chartplotters/MFDs

2016-01-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

Edd

We have a Garmin  GPSMAP 740 at helm which has display size 6.0" x 3.6"; 7.0" 
diagonal. I find it pretty easy to read and use as a chart.  At nav station we 
have a Raymarine A65 which has a 5.7 inch screen.  I find the Raymarine screen 
is difficult to use as a chart because of its smaller size.  I think the next 
size up Raymarine would be OK for that purpose based on my experience with the 
larger Garmin.  Both are same vintage

Hope this may be helpful

Oh.  One other thing I noted.  At helm our chartplotter has this useful feature 
where it auto dims as daylight dwindles.  This is great except for the fact 
that I have eyes that auto dim as the years go on.  Coming into a harbour at 
dusk near shallow water having a screen dim suddenly makes it difficult (read 
that as impossible) to read the depths on the display chart.  This is somewhat 
disconcerting.  This was with the Garmin and at that point I deemed it best not 
to fiddle with settings.  Next time I will have a pair of reading cheater 
glasses on hand as a flashlight is no good ….

Mike
Persistence
Halifax
NS

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Edd,
The 9" screen in the eS Series is dearer than the 7" screen but still worth 
looking at for the reasons given by Fred.  I'm going with the 7" version as I 
set up "Sea Mistress" from scratch with a fully integrated Raymarine system.  
Looked seriously at the 9" but I found the 7" screen to be more than acceptable 
- same size as my Samsung phone which I have no trouble reading.
Hope that helps
David

On 12 January 2016 at 08:46, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Fred,

I do want the 9-inch screen (at least).

There are so many different models — is there a guide somewhere which tells 
people what system has what?

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log






On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Edd — if you’re looking at the e Series, for about the same $$$ in the smaller 
display sizes I’d recommend looking at the newer eS Series.  It’s a more 
powerful and newer version of the e Series, with the same Hybrid Touch 
interface.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Listers,

So I was at the NY Boat Show this past weekend and took a good look at the 
Raymarine e-Series (specifically the e9 one). Built-in GPS and data display of 
other information hooked up to the system (including my new Raymarine EV200 
autopilot.)

Does anyone have one? Pros? Cons? The price seems very low given all it does, 
especially compared to the cost of my current Garmin GPSMap2006C.



All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon

2016-01-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List

This is a horrible ad.  No information and not one decent picture of the boat.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed 
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Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Custon


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/cambridge/44-c-c-custom/1103688809

Not sure if this has been posted here already. Seems to be in Toronto but I 
don't know this boat.

45k Canadian $ ... 32k US?

Ed

Prime Interest
Toronto
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ nameplates for sale

2016-01-12 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List

True, and the small radii make the cutting slower also.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Probably 316.  I imagine that a plate as designed will be significantly
> more expensive because of all of the material that needs to be removed.  As
> Ken Heaton's plate was made the letters and symbols recessed.
>
> Josh
> On Jan 12, 2016 6:36 AM, "Gary Russell via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh,
>>  I  will try to get a quote for the stainless steel.  If I can get
>> it, what kind of stainless do you want?  The choices will probably 308 or
>> 316.  The 316 is more corrosion resistant, harder to machine and more
>> expensive. I'm not an expert on this stuff (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn
>> Express last  night 😀).
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Interested in a quote for something in a polished chrome or stainless.
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> On Jan 11, 2016 6:36 PM, "Rick Rohwer via CnC-List" <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Interested

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 11, 2016, at 14:47, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

 Well, I've got what I consider a reasonable quote for the nameplates.
 I can supply them in black UV resistant polycarbonate for $75 each side
 plus shipping..  That includes everything including the NRE (non-recurring
 engineering charges).  The NRE is basically CAM charges).  I need to know
 who is interested.  I suspect I can  have them in about a week.  If there
 are similar nameplates for other C&C models, I can entertain getting them
 as well.  I don't know if I can get them in stainless steel, but if
 possible it will be quite a bit more expensive because of the small radii
 of some of the cuts.  A 1/16" cutter moves very slow in stainless
 So let me know if you are interested.

 Gary
 S/V High Maintenance
 '90 C&C 37+
 East Greenwich, RI, USA

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Re: Stus-List C&C shirts

2016-01-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

I got 5 polos and one long sleeve. They are nice brand-new shirts ☺
The person that got these may get more C&C stuff soon. He still has adult small 
and medium shirts.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave Godwin 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 10:28 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dave Godwin
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C shirts

I have one of those in my closet somewhere. Got it working the Annapolis 
Sailboat Show years back.

And I noticed that it is being sold at the Farmers Market that is a half block 
away from my condo.

Hey, wait a minute…

Cheers,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit

On Jan 8, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Saw this:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/boa/5393170373.html

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Joel
301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ nameplates for sale