Re: Stus-List The boat is sold

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Congratulations on your advancement to adulthood. Hope you hang around,
maybe you can score a nice C back in Ontario.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 13 August 2016 at 18:19, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Just a quick note to say the new owners of Nemesis have picked her up and
> moved her up Halifax harbour to Dartmouth Yacht Club.
>
> She has gone to a good home and the new owners are going to join the list.
>
> Why did I sell her?  I am retiring in October after 36+ years in the RCAF
> and this is the first step in my retirement plans.
>
> Next is to sell the house and move back home to southwestern Ontario.
>
> After we get settled in there, we plan on getting another boat in the
> 33-38 ft range and cruise the great lakes.
>
> I’ve owned a boat since 1998 and it is weird not having to worry about
> storms, hurricanes and taking time off for lift-out.
>
> I’m going to stay on the list and if any 25 owners have any questions, I’m
> here.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Taillieu
>
> (now boatless)
>
> Shearwater Yacht Club
>
> Halifax, NS.
>
>
>
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Stus-List The boat is sold

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Just a quick note to say the new owners of Nemesis have picked her up and
moved her up Halifax harbour to Dartmouth Yacht Club.

She has gone to a good home and the new owners are going to join the list.

Why did I sell her?  I am retiring in October after 36+ years in the RCAF
and this is the first step in my retirement plans.

Next is to sell the house and move back home to southwestern Ontario.

After we get settled in there, we plan on getting another boat in the 33-38
ft range and cruise the great lakes.

I've owned a boat since 1998 and it is weird not having to worry about
storms, hurricanes and taking time off for lift-out.

I'm going to stay on the list and if any 25 owners have any questions, I'm
here.

 

 

Rick Taillieu

(now boatless)

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Well, there were witnesses...  say no more!  ;-)

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-08-13 12:31 PM, Persuasion37 via CnC-List wrote:
I fail to see the problem with the ladder. You don't want riff raff getting 
back on the boat.

My apologies to all mother in laws

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:28 AM, G Collins via CnC-List 
> wrote:


I will second the comments about ensuring a good length of the ladder is 
underwater when folded down - my mother-in-law fell into the water one time off 
our previous boat, and could not get up the ladder - the lowest rung was barely 
below the surface.  After that debacle I invested in a lifesling, but on Secret 
Plans the ladder is a good rung and a half under  water, so it is much easier 
to get up.

You may not plan on swimming, but you should plan on being able to get out...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List wrote:
Hi,

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder.
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water.

Thank you,
Ali
C 30 1976
Seattle




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Re: Stus-List Soliciting advice on self launching anchor friendly deck plate for 33-2

[G Collins via CnC-List]

Doug, installing an anchor windlass in the anchor locker counts as the single 
best (cruising) improvement I have made to our boat, I would be far less likely 
to anchor without it.  Highly recommended if you are cruising.

Anchor roller - I installed a Garhauer, works well.  But your geometry is 
different from mine, your mileage may vary...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-08-13 6:45 PM, Doug Welch via CnC-List wrote:
My 33-2 currently has a small single bow roller which I would like to change 
out for something a little more friendly for a self launching anchor and tack 
point for a code zero furling. If it's not sacrilege, I am also thinking about 
installing windlass in the anchor locker. I would appreciate any advice the 
group has on suppliers, gotcha's etc.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers Doug



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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

 If you turn the rudder it moves completely out of the way. Even with the 
rudder centered my ladder
does not touch it but is close.

Check the stern from the inside. There may be stiffening strip laminated 
horizontally across that
provides a good location to bolt the ladder to.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Hi,  
 
I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder.  
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water.  
 
Thank you,AliC 30 1976Seattle 
 

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Re: Stus-List Guidance required on Sewage hose type - LF38

[Dreuge via CnC-List]

Hi John,

I have recently gone through much of this with my LF38, and  I have written 
much of this up on my blog.  The first link below discusses the head plumbing.  
I went with a macerator pump rather than a hand pump.  Read the section on my 
“Sanitation System Plan”.  

 In my setup, all head waste goes directly to the holding tank. The holding 
tank is emptied via a Y-valve either at the deck outlet or via a macerator 
discharged overboard below the waterline.  The key here is All of the waste is 
pumped into a holding tank.  When there's no Y–valve between the toilet and 
tank there is no legal requirement to lock a valve or seacock.  On the other 
hand, installing a Y-valve between the head and the holding tank makes one 
legally required to lock/restrain the Y-valve closed when inside the three-mile 
limit.  Not having a Y-valve before the holding tank gives authorities no 
reason to get upset.  Also, I have added an affordable (~$20) active 
ventilation system to the holding tank(see second link).

 It's been in use for nearly a year now, and so far with plenty of use there 
are absolutely no bad smells in the head. 


Lastly, I have added a link to my LF38 projects page. 


Resurrecting the Marine Head
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/HeadPlumbingWork 


Adding Active Ventilation to the Holding Tank
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/ActiveVentHoldingTank 


List of Projects
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/p/projects.html 



-
Paul E.
1981 C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ 
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Stus-List Soliciting advice on self launching anchor friendly deck plate for 33-2

[Doug Welch via CnC-List]

My 33-2 currently has a small single bow roller which I would like to change 
out for something a little more friendly for a self launching anchor and tack 
point for a code zero furling. If it's not sacrilege, I am also thinking about 
installing windlass in the anchor locker. I would appreciate any advice the 
group has on suppliers, gotcha's etc.
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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[David Kaseler via CnC-List]

Marek.
Doesn't sound funny to me. One of our biggest safety concerns we have on SLY, 
our 1975 C 33, is having my wife or I fall overboard. Even with the Life 
Sling this is a serious risk especially in cold water as we have here in the 
Northwest. I'd love to have a boat with an open transom.
Dave.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You want to have, at least, a good rung or two under water and a reasonable 
> way of clearing the pushpit. This applies to those of us who are not built 
> like Mark Spitz. Your Admiral will be thankful.  
>  
> I know that it may sound funny, but one of the reasons why we changed boats 
> was the difficulty of access from the water on the old one and the open 
> transom on the new one.
>  
> I also know a fellow sailor in our Club who is selling his boat for the same 
> reason- his wife had the hip replacement and has a major difficulty getting 
> out of the water.
>  
> In short, when you install the new ladder, invest in a good solution: long 
> ladder and a gate in the pushpit.
>  
> Good luck
>  
> Marek
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: G Collins via CnC-List
> Sent: August 13, 2016 10:29
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: G Collins
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder
>  
> I will second the comments about ensuring a good length of the ladder is 
> underwater when folded down - my mother-in-law fell into the water one time 
> off our previous boat, and could not get up the ladder - the lowest rung was 
> barely below the surface.  After that debacle I invested in a lifesling, but 
> on Secret Plans the ladder is a good rung and a half under  water, so it is 
> much easier to get up.
> 
> You may not plan on swimming, but you should plan on being able to get out...
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
> On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List wrote:
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 127, Issue 73

[Alan Zuas via CnC-List]

Thanks all for the great insights. I will go ahead and install the ladder to 
the starboard side of transom with 1-1 1/2 rungs in water and add a gate 
sometime later. 

Ali
 

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Today's Topics:

  1.  34 Centerboard (John Pennie)
  2. Re:  Boarding Ladder (Marek Dziedzic)
  3. Re:  Boarding Ladder (Persuasion37)
  4. Re:  Boarding Ladder (Marek Dziedzic)
If anyone is looking for a 34 centerboard I came across what looks to be a nice 
one down in Virginia.

John



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You want to have, at least, a good rung or two under water and a reasonable way 
of clearing the pushpit. This applies to those of us who are not built like 
Mark Spitz. Your Admiral will be thankful.    I know that it may sound funny, 
but one of the reasons why we changed boats was the difficulty of access from 
the water on the old one and the open transom on the new one.   I also know a 
fellow sailor in our Club who is selling his boat for the same reason- his wife 
had the hip replacement and has a major difficulty getting out of the water.  
In short, when you install the new ladder, invest in a good solution: long 
ladder and a gate in the pushpit.   Good luck   Marek 1994 C270 “Legato”Ottawa, 
ON  Sent from Mail for Windows 10  From: G Collins via CnC-List
Sent: August 13, 2016 10:29
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: G Collins
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder  I will second the comments about 
ensuring a good length of the ladder is underwater when folded down - my 
mother-in-law fell into the water one time off our previous boat, and could not 
get up the ladder - the lowest rung was barely below the surface.  After that 
debacle I invested in a lifesling, but on Secret Plans the ladder is a good 
rung and a half under  water, so it is much easier to get up.You may not plan 
on swimming, but you should plan on being able to get out...Graham 
CollinsSecret PlansC 35-III #11On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List 
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    I fail to see the problem with the ladder. You don't want riff raff getting 
back on the boat.
My apologies to all mother in laws

MikePERSUASION
C 37 K/CBLong Sault
On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:28 AM, G Collins via CnC-List  
wrote:


 I will second the comments about ensuring a good length of the ladder is 
underwater when folded down - my mother-in-law fell into the water one time off 
our previous boat, and could not get up the ladder - the lowest rung was barely 
below the surface.  After that debacle I invested in a lifesling, but on Secret 
Plans the ladder is a good rung and a half under  water, so it is much easier 
to get up.You may not plan on swimming, but you should plan on being able to 
get out...
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List wrote:

Hi, 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems 

Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The central location would also depend on if you have a split backstay or not. 
With a split one, you want it central. It also, usually, makes the gate easier 
to install.

Marek 

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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

I fail to see the problem with the ladder. You don't want riff raff getting 
back on the boat.

My apologies to all mother in laws

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:28 AM, G Collins via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I will second the comments about ensuring a good length of the ladder is 
> underwater when folded down - my mother-in-law fell into the water one time 
> off our previous boat, and could not get up the ladder - the lowest rung was 
> barely below the surface.  After that debacle I invested in a lifesling, but 
> on Secret Plans the ladder is a good rung and a half under  water, so it is 
> much easier to get up.
> 
> You may not plan on swimming, but you should plan on being able to get out...
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>> On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
>> here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on 
>> different projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I 
>> looked around the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders 
>> right in the middle of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder 
>> seems to be somewhat large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make 
>> it difficult for someone to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you 
>> think about this, and if you have ideas on where I should install the 
>> ladder. 
>> the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in 
>> water. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Ali
>> C 30 1976
>> Seattle
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List 34 Centerboard

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

If anyone is looking for a 34 centerboard I came across what looks to be a nice 
one down in Virginia.

John


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Re: Stus-List Dinghy towing length

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Russ, it's a slat-bottom Zodiac. It really is an inflatable, I pump it up
in the spring and deflate it in the fall. Usually don't have to do anything
to it in between.
I really like the concept of an air floor, most folks seem happy with
theirs. With no storage at home, it has to live in the mothership over the
winter, so a RIB is out.
We gave up on hard tenders after an episode of running downwind in the
Strait of Georgia, when I was certain our 8' glass dinghy was going to join
us in the cockpit of our Shark.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 11 August 2016 at 21:40, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Is this a hard dinghy, d'flatable (with *x *type floor) or a hybrid?
>
> I'm intrigued by the high pressure floor d'flatables but haven't tried one
> yet.
>
> Only an optimistic person calls them inflatables 'cause that is not their
> preference from what I've seen.
>
> Cheers, Russ
> * Sweet*, 35 mk-1
>
> At 07:05 PM 11/08/2016, you wrote:
>
> We towed a light dinghy all the way around Vancouver Island, and usually
> set it for minimum drag, so 2-3 fingers of pressure in calm weather. As the
> wind and waves increased, we pulled the dinghy right up on the transom so
> only the back end is in the water. That also stops the wind from spinning
> it behind the boat like a propeller and expelling all the contents, which
> we experienced once and don't want to repeat. After one bad experience
> running downwind and wave in the Strait of Georgia we always make sure to
> take the drain plug out and tether it.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[G Collins via CnC-List]

I will second the comments about ensuring a good length of the ladder is 
underwater when folded down - my mother-in-law fell into the water one time off 
our previous boat, and could not get up the ladder - the lowest rung was barely 
below the surface.  After that debacle I invested in a lifesling, but on Secret 
Plans the ladder is a good rung and a half under  water, so it is much easier 
to get up.

You may not plan on swimming, but you should plan on being able to get out...

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2016-08-13 2:29 AM, Alan Zuas via CnC-List wrote:
Hi,

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder.
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water.

Thank you,
Ali
C 30 1976
Seattle




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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

My 1980 version has a hinged ladder mounted in the center of the transom. When 
unfolded, the bottom of the ladder hits the rudder. It has not been a problem, 
it just keeps the ladder a bit away from the transom, which is pretty vertical, 
maybe a bit sloped in at the bottom, so that is good. The spacing of the ladder 
rungs is such that stepping on the rudder is difficult, so I have never done 
it. The pulpit has a gate in it, so getting from the ladder to the top of the 
transom is much easier.

 

This appears to be a standard factory accessory

Gary

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:43 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: RANDY ; Alan Zuas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

 

Hi Ali,

 

I have a 1972 C 30 Mk. I, hull #7, with a hinging swim ladder in the middle 
of the transom.  I don't think the bottom rung hits the rudder - I'll confirm 
that later today.  But I worry about people stepping on the top of the rudder.  
Fortunately I have tiller steering, so I can turn the rudder through 360 
degrees.  So I turn it around 180 degrees backward when I have the ladder down, 
to keep it out of the way.  I also do that when backing the boat - it makes 
steering easier when backing.  My only issue with the swim ladder is that, when 
folded up, it's in the way of where the flag staff would go.  So I have to fly 
my ensign from the backstay.  You might consider mounting the ladder to 
starboard on the transom so it doesn't interfere with the flag staff.  On the 
other hand, centering it looks better, makes it easier to tie up when folded, 
and probably makes it easier to climb into the cockpit.

 

Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO

 

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To: "cnc-list"  >
Cc: "Alan Zuas"  >
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:29:51 PM
Subject: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

 

Hi, 

 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

 

Thank you,

Ali

C 30 1976

Seattle

 


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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Dave Syer via CnC-List]

FWIW, I would work out the best way to securely mount it on the transom.   This 
keeps it usable when hove to, out of the way most of the time, and accessible 
when needed.   
I recently amused myself while sailing singlehanded by losing my spinnaker (in 
turtle) over the side, and not noticing for a few minutes.   Recovery was 
successful, but I was really struck by how difficult and exhausting it was to 
lift a heavy, inert object over the side.   Wasn’t thinking about method.   
Next time I will tie he object to the boat, bring it to the stern, heave to, 
clip on my harness, drop the transom ladder and climb down to sort it out it at 
my leisure.  I recall reading that the bottom rung of a ladder should be at 
least 1’ below the surface to facilitate boarding.  I looked at sailboatdata as 
well, and if on the transom, your install will involve some thought, but I bet 
the tradeoffs can be accomplished.   Good luck.
Dave
Windstar 33-2

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Hi, 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

Thank you,AliC 30 1976Seattle
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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[RANDY via CnC-List]

Hi Ali, 

I have a 1972 C 30 Mk. I, hull #7, with a hinging swim ladder in the middle 
of the transom. I don't think the bottom rung hits the rudder - I'll confirm 
that later today. But I worry about people stepping on the top of the rudder. 
Fortunately I have tiller steering, so I can turn the rudder through 360 
degrees. So I turn it around 180 degrees backward when I have the ladder down, 
to keep it out of the way. I also do that when backing the boat - it makes 
steering easier when backing. My only issue with the swim ladder is that, when 
folded up, it's in the way of where the flag staff would go. So I have to fly 
my ensign from the backstay. You might consider mounting the ladder to 
starboard on the transom so it doesn't interfere with the flag staff. On the 
other hand, centering it looks better, makes it easier to tie up when folded, 
and probably makes it easier to climb into the cockpit. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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From: "Alan Zuas via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Alan Zuas"  
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:29:51 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Boarding Ladder 

Hi, 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

Thank you, 
Ali 
C 30 1976 
Seattle 


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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Damian Greene via CnC-List]

A question to consider is what you want the step for - getting out of the 
water, or for a dinghy.
On our C 34, we use an Esdon boarding step that we clip to the toe-rail at 
the side of the boat, for use with our inflatable dinghy or Whaler. Being the 
side means we can tie up the smaller boat securely alongside - which makes a 
big difference if we are dealing with boarding in swells.
I would not like to try this maneuver via the stern of the boat.
Of course, with the water temperature in Maine, swimming is not an attractive 
option.
Damian Greene
1982 C 34 GhostBass Harbor, Maine

  From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Danny Haughey 
 Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:28 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder
   
I just looked at sailboat data.   I see what you mean about the rudder. 
You could certainly mount it to the side.  The key to using a boarding ladder 
to get in the boat from the water,  say,  if swimming, you want at least one 
rung below the water line.  Two would make it much easier.   With your transom, 
 it looks like you might need to mount the 3' ladder pretty low to get a rung 
in the water.  Then, the transom slopes out.   I think that may be awkward to 
board.
Maybe a longer ladder? 
I'm sure some of the group will chime in with advice.   Maybe someone already 
tackled a similar project. 
Danny


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 Date: 8/13/16 1:29 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Alan Zuas  Subject: Stus-List 
Boarding Ladder 
Hi, 

I am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working on different 
projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder on my boat. I looked around 
the marina and noticed a lot of people have their ladders right in the middle 
of the transom. I am a little hesitant since the rudder seems to be somewhat 
large and the last ladder rung might touch it or make it difficult for someone 
to get on the ladder. I was wondering what you think about this, and if you 
have ideas on where I should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

Thank you,AliC 30 1976Seattle

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Re: Stus-List Boarding Ladder

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I just looked at sailboat data.   I see what you mean about the rudder. 
You could certainly mount it to the side.  The key to using a boarding ladder 
to get in the boat from the water,  say,  if swimming, you want at least one 
rung below the water line.  Two would make it much easier.   With your transom, 
 it looks like you might need to mount the 3' ladder pretty low to get a rung 
in the water.  Then, the transom slopes out.   I think that may be awkward to 
board.
Maybe a longer ladder? 
I'm sure some of the group will chime in with advice.   Maybe someone already 
tackled a similar project. 
Danny


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 Date: 8/13/16  1:29 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Alan Zuas  Subject: Stus-List 
Boarding Ladder 
Hi, 

I
 am relatively new to sailing and the boat life, and this is my first post 
here. I have a C 30' 1976 and love the boat. I have been working 
on different projects, and now I'd to install a boarding ladder
 on my boat. I looked around the marina and noticed a lot of people have 
their ladders right in the middle of the transom. I am a little hesitant
 since the rudder seems to be somewhat large and the last ladder rung 
might touch it or make it difficult for someone to get on the ladder. I was 
wondering what you think about this, and if you have ideas on where I 
should install the ladder. 
the ladder is 3 feet long and 1 foot wide and has a hinge to drop it in water. 

Thank you,AliC 30 1976Seattle
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