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[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

A LF38 named Masala took a family from Canada to Europe and back a few years 
ago. I used to have a couple of links to different 38s that have 
circumnavigated, but the links are no longer active. One of the listers has 
crossed the Atlantic more than once in his 30-1. And there have been a number 
of trips to Bermuda by various listers.

 

I think you will find your 33 a more than adequate boat.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Free Girls 
Sailing via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Free Girls Sailing 
Subject: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C

 

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond. 

 

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

 

Jessica 

1975 C&C 33

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Stus-List C&C Landfall 35 Inquiry

[Edward del Val via CnC-List]

Hi.

Just joined the list as someone who is considering purchasing a C&C Landfall 35 
in the next year or so. While I've done a bit of research on this boat and have 
sailed on some C&Cs in my past, I've never sailed on the Landfall nor have I 
physically hopped aboard one. Does anyone know someone with a Landfall 35 in 
the Portland, OR area or up in Seattle? It would be great to come check out the 
design so that my wife and I can decide if this boat will meet our needs. 

Thanks!

Ed

Edward James del Val
Composition Instructor
English Department
Mt. Hood Community College
503-491-7512

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[Antoine Rose via CnC-List]

As some other as indicated, I did it (twice) on my C&C 30-1 (1973). And I’m 
still on the list, even if I don’t intervene much.
2008 Montréal - Quebec city - Gaspé - Faial (Azores) - Brest (France) - La 
Rochelle (France)
2010 Rochefort (France) - Azores - Nova Scotia - Gaspé - Québec (singlehanded 
this time)

C&Cs can do it but it need a WELL prepared boat to do it. The boat never scared 
me. I hope to do it again before I’m getting too old.

I would be happy to answer any question you might have. And yes, the 
St-Lawrence river and gulf can be cold at the beginning of the summer. The 
worst part is Tadoussac, where the Saguenay river meets the St-Lawrence.
But I believe Lake Superior is not specially warm either.

Cheers
Antoine




> Le 22 août 2016 à 12:33, Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List 
>  a écrit :
> 
> My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
> through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond. 
> 
> What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?
> 
> Jessica 
> 1975 C&C 33
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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

If your J is 13’6”, the LP of your 155 is 20’11”. By the rule of thumb, the 
optimum whisker pole length is about 16’9”.

 

With the 13’4”pole at the mast and perpendicular to the centerline of the boat, 
the line from the tack fitting to the end of the pole is 19’1”. Perpendicular 
to the center line would project the sail out as far as possible (which is what 
the whisker pole is supposed to do). There should have been some curvature to 
the sail, which you want so you get the maximum pressure on the sail (a cupped 
shape generates more pressure than a flat barn door shape). I find I usually 
run the pole about 15 to 20 degrees forward of the mast to promote that cupped 
shape.

 

The LP of your 135 would be about 18’3”, so the spin pole would stretch the 
sail flat and still be a bit forward of perpendicular. (Optimum whisker pole 
would be 14’7”) You might need to run the spin pole at a forward angle to get 
the proper sail shape, though that doesn’t get you the maximum projection of 
the sail.

 

And the essence of a whisker pole is that the length is adjustable, so you and 
match the length to the size of the headsail you are flying.

 

Mike Hoyt’s comment that a pole longer than J costs you seconds in most PHRF 
areas is true. But not in all areas. And some of us are cruisers who want to 
get the most out of the boat, even though too short handed to fly the spin 
except on a log run.

 

Plus I have always thought the use of J for max pole length in non-spin racing 
to be arbitrary and slightly inequitable in those regions that give a separate 
rating for spin and JAM racing. Seems like if you race JAM, you ought to be 
able to optimize the boat for JAM racing.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:24 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: RANDY 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

 

My SPL is 13'4" and my J is 13'6".  I used the spin pole to pole out my 155% 
genoa running wing and wing, and it stretched the sail out flat.  Couldn't have 
done it with my 135% genoa; the spin pole would be too long for that.  Using 
Rick's calculation below (optimal whisker pole length is 80% of LP), my spin 
pole is ~4" too long as a whisker pole for my 155.

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

  _  

From: "Mike via CnC-List Hoyt" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
To: "cnc-list" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: "Mike Hoyt" mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:22:23 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

 

Spin or whisker pole longer than J is subject to penalty in most areas

 

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[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Love this thread. 
An old timer once told me , "every boat is someone's dream". This idea is very 
nice dream and a noble quest, and though I'd prefer a larger boat for the task, 
I'm sure a 1975 C&C 33 could be prepared to make the passage. The deciding 
factor is more on the experience, determination, and fortitude of the skipper 
and crew. And the weather window is closing for attempting it this year. So 
many variables to consider. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Free Girls Sailing"  
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33:07 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C 

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond. 

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings? 

Jessica 
1975 C&C 33 

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[John Pennie via CnC-List]

My 34+ went direct to USVI (and back) from NY.  In my 51 I made it as far as 
St. Lucia via Bermuda.  I ran out of juice long before the boat did.  No 
shortage of Bermuda veterans on this list.  So yeah, pick the right boat and no 
worries.  Cargo capacity will be the issue for most, not seaworthiness.

John


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> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:50 PM, david via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I met a guy in the marina in Chemanius this spring that had a very nice 38 
> MKII. He told me he had sailed the boat to the South Pacific, I think he said 
> Fiji, and back. I don't recall the name of the name of the boat nor know if 
> he is a lister. Had a dark green hull.
> 
> There was also another west coast sailor Robert Peterson who circumnavigated 
> in a 38 named Topaz. In fact this same boat was circumnavigated single handed 
> by another sailor named Ken Hellewell who wrote a book about preparing a boat 
> for cruising.
> 
> David
> Former C&C 26
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> Date: 2016-08-22 14:48 (GMT-07:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C
> 
> My wife and I just sailed from Newport to SW Harbor, Maine. Left Friday 
> afternoon and took two nights to get here. Pick your weather and it's easy. 
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine 
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 13:22, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I bought Pegathy in Ft. Lauderdale and sailed her up to Baltimore. Last 
>> year, sailed to Nantucket and back. Coasting is fun and pretty easy. Best to 
>> have 4 or more crew when you overnight offshore, even coasting. Active 
>> Captain is a great app, best if you're computer or tablet has a GIS 
>> reciever.  Pick your weather when you're coasting, BECAUSE YOU CAN! Read the 
>> book Storm Tactics. Make allowance for gear failure. Carry extra fuel and 
>> water. 
>> 
>> Fair winds and following seas to you.
>> 
>> Dan Sheer, 
>> Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Re: Stus-List Simrad WP30

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Gerry,

Is the WP30 still available.  I would still like it.

Dennis C.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Gerry via CnC-List 
wrote:

>  I have WP30 Autopilot I removed form my C&C 35 mk3.
> It came with the boat, not sure how well it worked but if you
> need any parts this could save you a bundle of money and time.
>
> Let me know if anyone has interest.
>
> Gerry Fennessey
> 35MK3 Fianna
>
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Re: Stus-List Removing 30-1 Exterior Handrails

[rick bushie via CnC-List]

Randy,

I’m sitting on Anchovy right now, and you’ve described the locations of all the 
screws.  I’ve pulled the outside grab rails in the past and there were no more 
fasteners on Anchovy than you’ve identified.  Possibly some 5200 was used the 
last time they were installed?

Rick Bushie
Anchovy
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Re: Stus-List Masthead Tech

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Consider a Windex light while you're at it.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> My mast is down for inner surgery and prepping for add ons. Based in the
> Lake Huron North Channel, I would like to explore afield into Michigan and
> Superior.
>
> MASTHEAD
> A. Marinebeam masthead Nav and anchor
> B. Windex
> C. Wind transducer
> D. Cell repeater aerial
> E. VHF aerial
> F. HD 1080 cam
>
> SPREADER ZONE
> A. Steaming Nav
> B. Foredeck light
> C. Genoa telltale night sailing light
> D. Spreader side deck illumination
>
> STERN POST, ARCH and or BACKSTAY
> A. Solar panels
> B. Radar
> C. AIS/VHFbackup
> D. Sat radio
>
>
> Questions!
>
> 1. What brand/model/source is the cell repeater aerial?
>
> 2. Does it benefit from, or need, a mast head plate ground plane?
>
> 3. At what proximity does a cell signal repeater aerial and a VHF aerial
> start to interfere with each other? A wireless HD camera connecting to the
> on boat wifi router, either 2.4 or 5?
>
> 4.  Did you use LMR-600 for the aerials? MR-600-DB?
>
> 5. If I a do a wired masthead HD digital camera, would you have any
> suggestions for camera and/or cable?
>
> 5. Did you use a wire mesh choking strain relief anywhere?
>
> 6. Do you guess or crystal ball if Raymarine might change their wind
> transducer cable/plugs? I am waiting for the next generation of Raymarine
> wind transducer to see if there are updates to compete with Garmin
> transducers.
>
> 7. How do you recommend sealing the mast head connections?
>
> 8. Spreader deck lights?
>
> 9.
>
> This looks like consulting time! I am happy to pay the consult opening if
> others are interested.
>
> Don
>
> Life
> Viking 34
> ww.ncyc.ca
>
>
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[david via CnC-List]

I met a guy in the marina in Chemanius this spring that had a very nice 38 
MKII. He told me he had sailed the boat to the South Pacific, I think he said 
Fiji, and back. I don't recall the name of the name of the boat nor know if he 
is a lister. Had a dark green hull.
There was also another west coast sailor Robert Peterson who circumnavigated in 
a 38 named Topaz. In fact this same boat was circumnavigated single handed by 
another sailor named Ken Hellewell who wrote a book about preparing a boat for 
cruising.
DavidFormer C&C 26


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 Date: 2016-08-22  14:48  (GMT-07:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C 
My wife and I just sailed from Newport to SW Harbor, Maine. Left Friday 
afternoon and took two nights to get here. Pick your weather and it's easy. 
AndyC&C 40Peregrine 

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA    02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Aug 22, 2016, at 13:22, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
wrote:

I bought Pegathy in Ft. Lauderdale and sailed her up to Baltimore. Last year, 
sailed to Nantucket and back. Coasting is fun and pretty easy. Best to have 4 
or more crew when you overnight offshore, even coasting. Active Captain is a 
great app, best if you're computer or tablet has a GIS reciever.  Pick your 
weather when you're coasting, BECAUSE YOU CAN! Read the book Storm Tactics. 
Make allowance for gear failure. Carry extra fuel and water. 

Fair winds and following seas to you.
Dan Sheer, 
Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Jessica

I can't really speak as to when the best time to travel the St. Lawrence but 
probably later in June or early July.  The water was cold although we were 
never in it.  The issue with the cold water and three warm bodies inside is the 
condensation created inside the boat.  Most days were sunny with temperatures 
typically between 10 - 15 C.  Only once were we storm stayed and that was at 
Mont St. Louis (3days).  From Tadoussac to Rimouski we had the wind behind us 
probably 25+kts, waves 8-10 ft., tide running and we hit 13.5 kts over the 
ground.We couldn't have survived without our full enclosure.  Friends left 
Brighton the first of August and they wore their survival suits most of the 
time.

Mike
PERSUASION
C&C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> When is a good time then? Was the cold water an issue? How was the weather?
> 
> Jessica 
> 
>> On Monday, August 22, 2016, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Jessica
>>  
>> I sail out the St. Lawrence in 2014.  Officially retired May 31 and left 
>> June 1 from Long Sault.  We went as far as the Bahamas.  No ocean crossings 
>> but a lot of coastal sailing.  My only advise is the the St. Lawrence is 
>> very cold in June.
>>  
>> Mike
>> S/V Persuasion
>> C&C 37 Keel/CB
>> www.persuasion37.com
>> Long Sault
>>  
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Stus-List kellet for anchoring

[Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List]

have used for over  00years...makes all the difference in securing to
bottom...use 36ft 1 half inch chain  then 200 ft plus 5eights 3strand
rode...open the kellet  ,,put it on rope fasten  sliding retreval
line..then fasten weightsusually use 15 lbd  lead ball  sometimes  two
depending on forcasts,,,let out  chain rode  then 3strand part of anchor
rode  &lower until kellet   about 25 to 30 ft aft of chain or further
depending on water depthuse 45lbd  CQR  with extra weight in tip..have
had little drag problems in winds  just short of 65 knts...has kept us safe
for  48 plus years ..great lakes,us east &south coasts,st lawrence,pacific
coasts...biggest problem after heavy blow anchor dug in bottom & hard to
break free...tidewater  1968 redline 41  british columbia
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[Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List]

Mike,

When is a good time then? Was the cold water an issue? How was the weather?

Jessica

On Monday, August 22, 2016, Persuasion37 via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Hi Jessica
>
> I sail out the St. Lawrence in 2014.  Officially retired May 31 and left
> June 1 from Long Sault.  We went as far as the Bahamas.  No ocean crossings
> but a lot of coastal sailing.  My only advise is the the St. Lawrence is
> very cold in June.
>
> Mike
> S/V Persuasion
> C&C 37 Keel/CB
> www.persuasion37.com
> Long Sault
>
> *From:* Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List
> 
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> *Cc:* Free Girls Sailing
> 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C
>
> My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin
> through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.
>
> What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?
>
> Jessica
> 1975 C&C 33
>
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[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Don't forget the Atlantic voyage that Antoine Rose did in a 1970s 30, which is 
featured in the FRONT PAGE of the Photo Album 
 

 


Richard
s/v  Bushmark4 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4


Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
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To: cnc-list 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C



My wife and I just sailed from Newport to SW Harbor, Maine. Left Friday 
afternoon and took two nights to get here. Pick your weather and it's easy. 


Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840


http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260


On Aug 22, 2016, at 13:22, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
wrote:




I bought Pegathy in Ft. Lauderdale and sailed her up to Baltimore. Last year, 
sailed to Nantucket and back. Coasting is fun and pretty easy. Best to have 4 
or more crew when you overnight offshore, even coasting. Active Captain is a 
great app, best if you're computer or tablet has a GIS reciever.  Pick your 
weather when you're coasting, BECAUSE YOU CAN! Read the book Storm Tactics. 
Make allowance for gear failure. Carry extra fuel and water. 



Fair winds and following seas to you.


Dan Sheer, 

Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco



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[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

My wife and I just sailed from Newport to SW Harbor, Maine. Left Friday 
afternoon and took two nights to get here. Pick your weather and it's easy. 

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 13:22, Daniel Sheer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought Pegathy in Ft. Lauderdale and sailed her up to Baltimore. Last year, 
> sailed to Nantucket and back. Coasting is fun and pretty easy. Best to have 4 
> or more crew when you overnight offshore, even coasting. Active Captain is a 
> great app, best if you're computer or tablet has a GIS reciever.  Pick your 
> weather when you're coasting, BECAUSE YOU CAN! Read the book Storm Tactics. 
> Make allowance for gear failure. Carry extra fuel and water. 
> 
> Fair winds and following seas to you.
> 
> Dan Sheer, 
> Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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Stus-List Masthead Tech

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,

My mast is down for inner surgery and prepping for add ons. Based in the Lake 
Huron North Channel, I would like to explore afield into Michigan and Superior. 

MASTHEAD
A. Marinebeam masthead Nav and anchor
B. Windex 
C. Wind transducer 
D. Cell repeater aerial
E. VHF aerial
F. HD 1080 cam

SPREADER ZONE
A. Steaming Nav
B. Foredeck light
C. Genoa telltale night sailing light
D. Spreader side deck illumination

STERN POST, ARCH and or BACKSTAY
A. Solar panels
B. Radar
C. AIS/VHFbackup
D. Sat radio


Questions!

1. What brand/model/source is the cell repeater aerial?

2. Does it benefit from, or need, a mast head plate ground plane?

3. At what proximity does a cell signal repeater aerial and a VHF aerial start 
to interfere with each other? A wireless HD camera connecting to the on boat 
wifi router, either 2.4 or 5?

4.  Did you use LMR-600 for the aerials? MR-600-DB?

5. If I a do a wired masthead HD digital camera, would you have any suggestions 
for camera and/or cable?

5. Did you use a wire mesh choking strain relief anywhere? 

6. Do you guess or crystal ball if Raymarine might change their wind transducer 
cable/plugs? I am waiting for the next generation of Raymarine wind transducer 
to see if there are updates to compete with Garmin transducers.

7. How do you recommend sealing the mast head connections?

8. Spreader deck lights?

9. 

This looks like consulting time! I am happy to pay the consult opening if 
others are interested.

Don

Life
Viking 34
ww.ncyc.ca



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[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Hi Jessica

I sail out the St. Lawrence in 2014.  Officially retired May 31 and left June 1 
from Long Sault.  We went as far as the Bahamas.  No ocean crossings but a lot 
of coastal sailing.  My only advise is the the St. Lawrence is very cold in 
June.

Mike
S/V Persuasion
C&C 37 Keel/CB
www.persuasion37.com
Long Sault

From: Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Free Girls Sailing 
Subject: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.  

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

Jessica 
1975 C&C 33



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[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

Hi Jessica,

Antoine Rose from Montreal QC sailed his 1973 C&C 30 down the St Laurence 
River, and across the Atlantic all the way to Brest, France.  He has since 
sailed it back to North America.. 

Great story write-up here:  
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/CnC30_Crosses_Atlantic/index.pdf


Enjoy, 

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA. 

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[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

I bought Pegathy in Ft. Lauderdale and sailed her up to Baltimore. Last year, 
sailed to Nantucket and back. Coasting is fun and pretty easy. Best to have 4 
or more crew when you overnight offshore, even coasting. Active Captain is a 
great app, best if you're computer or tablet has a GIS reciever.  Pick your 
weather when you're coasting, BECAUSE YOU CAN! Read the book Storm Tactics. 
Make allowance for gear failure. Carry extra fuel and water. 

Fair winds and following seas to you.
Dan Sheer, 
Pegathy LF38 - Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

A friend took his C&C 38 out the St Lawrence, then to the Azores and Europe – 
last I heard he’s somewhere in Italy still – not on the list ….

Paul Fountain
Perception II
1985 C&C 33-II k/cb
Port Credit Yacht Club

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Free Girls Sailing 
Subject: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

Jessica
1975 C&C 33
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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Someone took a C&C 35 MK I around the world solo IIRC.

Joe
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:51
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C

Jessica — I’m not sure if Jeff Cole is still on the list; but he and his family 
took his LF38 from Toronto out the St Lawrence, then loaded it onto a ship for 
the Atlantic crossing.  They then picked the boat up in Europe and knocked 
around for several months, before shipping it back to Canada.  Unfortunately, I 
don’t think his blog is up any more.

Antoine Rose has sailed his 30 across the Atlantic; he may still be on the 
list, as well.  An account of that voyage can be found on Stu’s C&C Photo 
Album, at http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/CnC30_Crosses_Atlantic/index.pdf

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

Jessica
1975 C&C 33

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[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Jessica — I’m not sure if Jeff Cole is still on the list; but he and his family 
took his LF38 from Toronto out the St Lawrence, then loaded it onto a ship for 
the Atlantic crossing.  They then picked the boat up in Europe and knocked 
around for several months, before shipping it back to Canada.  Unfortunately, I 
don’t think his blog is up any more.

Antoine Rose has sailed his 30 across the Atlantic; he may still be on the 
list, as well.  An account of that voyage can be found on Stu’s C&C Photo 
Album, at http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/CnC30_Crosses_Atlantic/index.pdf

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
> through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond. 
> 
> What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?
> 
> Jessica 
> 1975 C&C 33

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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Bermuda and back.  Several on this list have done that and plenty more.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:33
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Free Girls Sailing
Subject: Stus-List Grand adventure/ long distance sailing in a C&C

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin 
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

Jessica
1975 C&C 33
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[Free Girls Sailing via CnC-List]

My partner are planning a trip from where we are at in Superior Wisconsin
through the Great Lakes and to the Atlantic and then south and beyond.

What's the furthest anyone has traveled in their C&C? Any ocean crossings?

Jessica
1975 C&C 33
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Re: Stus-List Removing 30-1 Exterior Handrails

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

My 27 MKIII has the same style of external hand rails as your 30-1 and on mine 
the forward 2 bases had the two smaller screws per base.

If there are more screws than that, they pretty much have to have been put 
through the headliner. Is it possible that a second screw was installed at a 
bit of an angle through an existing headliner hole? The OEM design doesn't 
provide a lot of strength there, and a PO might have added screws that way. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: RANDY via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list 
  Cc: RANDY 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 22:51
  Subject: Stus-List Removing 30-1 Exterior Handrails


  Listers - especially those who have replaced exterior handrails on a 30-1 :)


  I'm hoping you can advise me on how to remove exterior handrails from a 30-1. 
 Specifically, how to un-fasten the forward two bases of each handrail.


  I attempted to remove my exterior handrails today and was unsuccessful.  
There must be some screws into the forward two bases that I can't see from 
inside the boat (and there aren't bungs covering screw heads on the outside).


  Unscrewing the aft four bases of the exterior handrails was straightforward.  
Their screws are shared with or covered by the interior handrails.  So I 
drilled out the bungs on the interior handrails and removed them.  They're held 
on with four long screws that go all the way through into the outside 
handrails.  Once the inside rails are off you can see holes in the cabin liner 
for two more screws per base of the exterior handrails.  Those screws are 
shorter of course and came out easily enough, freeing the aft four bases of the 
exterior handrail.  All those screws had #2 square recessed heads BTW.


  But the forward two bases are perplexing.  On the port side, there were two 
chrome screw covers in the cabin liner above the head sink, and one immediately 
forward and immediately aft of the bulkhead separating the salon from the head. 
 On the starboard side there were two chrome screw covers above the hanging 
locker / shelves, but only one immediately forward of the bulkhead (I don't see 
one aft of the bulkhead).  I popped all those screw covers off, and removed the 
screws they were covering, but that was not sufficient to free the forward two 
bases of the exterior handrails.  There seem to be more screws holding them on, 
whose heads are concealed.


  For those of you 30-1 owners who have replaced your handrails, how did you 
access the screws holding the forward two bases on?  Did you cut a hole in your 
cabin liner?  I'm OK with destructive removal of the old handrails, but worry 
about damaging the fiberglass around the screw holes.  And I probably wouldn't 
be able to fasten the new handrails exactly the same way if I went the 
destructive removal route.


  I put some pictures at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTc093OExfMGRBX1E. I'm hoping 
somebody can tell me the magic answer :)


  Thanks In Advance,
  Randy Stafford
  S/V Grenadine
  C&C 30-1 #7
  Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[RANDY via CnC-List]

I must have done some math or measurement wrong. I'll have to re-measure all my 
headsails making sure to use LP, and re-calculate % of J. The sail I've been 
calling my 155 must be smaller than 155% of my foretriangle, because a 22' 
whisker pole would be too long for it. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Michael Brown via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Michael Brown"  
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:47:34 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 

If the desired effect is to have both the main and genoa projecting maximum 
area 
going dead down wind them both sails need to be set at right angles to the 
wind, 
which is about the same as right angle to the centerline of the boat. 

Assuming a 155% LP and the foot at right angle to the boat the whisker pole 
would 
be > 184.5% of J. The ">" part is because the foot is larger than 155% of J. 

On my C&C 30-1 with a 13.5' J that comes out to slightly under 26'. I have 
found allowing 
a slight curve to the foot is OK, and having the angle a bit under 90 degrees 
is acceptable 
leaving a 24' whisker pole. 

I carry a 22' Forespar Line Control whisker pole, legal under PHRF Lake 
Ontario. In very 
light air I use all 22' of it. 

In heavier air on a reach I may use it to control sail shape, holds the clew at 
the proper 
spot and controls how much is being spilled off. The line control pole is 
adjustable so 
I can find a spot to raise the spinnaker car to that provides the combination 
of downward 
angle and distance needed. 

Michael Brown 
Windburn 
C&C 30-1 



Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 

Depending on the size of your boat and the size of the sail you are poling out, 
your spin pole might be perfectly acceptable in lieu of a whisker pole. 

I?ve always understood the optimum length of a whisker pole is 80% of the LP of 
the sail being poled out. 

80% of a 150 would be 1.2xJ. So if your J was 10?, as on a 27V, the spin pole 
would be about 24? less than optimal. On my 38 mk2 (J=16.3) with a 135, the 
difference between the spin pole and optimal whisker pole would only be about 
15?. 

Rick Brass 
Washington, NC 


Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 

I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a 
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almost too long. 

Cheers, 
Randy 




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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

If the desired effect is to have both the main and genoa projecting maximum area
going dead down wind them both sails need to be set at right angles to the wind,
which is about the same as right angle to the centerline of the boat.

Assuming a 155% LP and the foot at right angle to the boat the whisker pole 
would
be > 184.5% of J. The ">" part is because the foot is larger than 155% of J.

On my C&C 30-1 with a 13.5' J that comes out to slightly under 26'. I have 
found allowing
a slight curve to the foot is OK, and having the angle a bit under 90 degrees 
is acceptable
leaving a 24' whisker pole.

I carry a 22' Forespar Line Control whisker pole, legal under PHRF Lake 
Ontario. In very
light air I use all 22' of it.

In heavier air on a reach I may use it to control sail shape, holds the clew at 
the proper
spot and controls how much is being spilled off. The line control pole is 
adjustable so
I can find a spot to raise the spinnaker car to that provides the combination 
of downward
angle and distance needed.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 
 
Depending on the size of your boat and the size of the sail you are poling out, 
your spin pole might be perfectly acceptable in lieu of a whisker pole. 
 
I?ve always understood the optimum length of a whisker pole is 80% of the LP of 
the sail being poled out. 
 
80% of a 150 would be 1.2xJ. So if your J was 10?, as on a 27V, the spin pole 
would be about 24? less than optimal. On my 38 mk2 (J=16.3) with a 135, the 
difference between the spin pole and optimal whisker pole would only be about 
15?. 
 
Rick Brass 
Washington, NC 
 
 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 
 
I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a 
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almost too long. 
 
Cheers, 
Randy 
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Stus-List C&C 2016 Northeast Rendezvous -- Less Than Three Weeks Away! -- September 10-12, 2016 -- Mystic Seaport

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Just a reminder that, in just under three weeks, we will be having our fifth 
annual C&C Northeast Rendezvous at the beautiful and historic Mystic Seaport. 
Some highlights:

We are staying in the seaport. At night, all the guests leave and we have the 
place to ourselves (and the night watchmen.)
Free dockage on Sunday if you pay for a Saturday night stay. 
Private tour of the seaport, including “exhibits that are not on exhibit”.
A C&C-only planetarium show.
Group dockside dinners, boat tours, annual whiskey sharing, late night revelry, 
flying Chinese lanterns, cigars, moderately foul language and all around 
silliness.

Not to be missed — plan your trip now and register! 

See our Rendezvous Website at http://cncnortheast.com 
 and our Rendezvous “Movie Trailer” at 
https://youtu.be/eKHpkatTwuk  (Almost 600 Views! 
— OK, Maybe not “Viral”, but we’ll take it.)

Also see photos from last year’s Northeast Rendezvous 
(http://cncyachts.com/cncnerendezvous/ ) 
and our Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/CcYachtsNortheastRendezvous/ 
)

See write-ups in Cruising World Magazine 
(http://www.cruisingworld.com/cc-rally-at-mystic-seaport 
) and WindCheck LIS 
(http://www.windcheckmagazine.com/letter_the_c_c_northeast_rendezvous_is_september_10_12_2016
 
)

Your hosts: Rob Gallagher (Hanuman; C&C 30 MkII), David Risch (Corsair; C&C 
40), Edd Schillay (Starship Enterprise; C&C 37+) and Don Sweeney (Harbor 
Lights; C&C 36)


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[RANDY via CnC-List]

My SPL is 13'4" and my J is 13'6". I used the spin pole to pole out my 155% 
genoa running wing and wing, and it stretched the sail out flat. Couldn't have 
done it with my 135% genoa; the spin pole would be too long for that. Using 
Rick's calculation below (optimal whisker pole length is 80% of LP), my spin 
pole is ~4" too long as a whisker pole for my 155. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike via CnC-List Hoyt"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Mike Hoyt"  
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:22:23 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 



Spin or whisker pole longer than J is subject to penalty in most areas 




From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 




Depending on the size of your boat and the size of the sail you are poling out, 
your spin pole might be perfectly acceptable in lieu of a whisker pole. 



I’ve always understood the optimum length of a whisker pole is 80% of the LP of 
the sail being poled out. 



80% of a 150 would be 1.2xJ. So if your J was 10’, as on a 27V, the spin pole 
would be about 24” less than optimal. On my 38 mk2 (J=16.3) with a 135, the 
difference between the spin pole and optimal whisker pole would only be about 
15”. 



Rick Brass 

Washington, NC 








From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of RANDY via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:03 PM 
To: cnc-list < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
Cc: RANDY < randy.staff...@comcast.net > 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole 





I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a 
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almost too long. 





Cheers, 
Randy 




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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[LKL via CnC-List]

Agree with Joe,

Have been using my GE window unit in the companion way for about 5 years
now.yes...maybe not the best answerbut for having invested only
around $150 on the a/c and misc. materials.am very pleased

Lloyd Lippe
Finesse
Landfall 39



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From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 8:00 AM
To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
Cc: Della Barba, Joe
Subject: Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

Everyone I have seen using a window unit in the hatch just steps over it to
get in and out ;)
Joe
Coquina


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Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Dave

Would suggest you replace the sides and the handle with new.  The parts are 
cheap and as mentioned available at The Binnacle and other places.  I have 2 
doubles and a single of those Spinlock/Lewmar clutches on either side.  The 
side proke in a similar place due to UV degradation earlier this summer and I 
have the new sides and handle installed in less than 24 hours.  All parts but 
the metal pieces are available for these clutches as well as a spare parts kit 
that includes almost every part

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:21 AM
To: C&c Stus List
Cc: Dave S
Subject: Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,

Rick, Andrew, thanks.   As you probably saw, a donor match has been located 
through the list (donation to Stu forthcoming - thanks again James).  Am 
pleasantly surprised that the parts were still available, not so pleasantly 
surprised at the number of period spinlock images I found online that showed 
the same failure mode.  Inspect your clutches!

Dave





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From: Andrew Burton 
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,
Schaefer? '85 33ii
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I have a few clutches I just took off. They work fine. They may be Lewmars, 
though. Any use to you?

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 17:24:21 -0300
From: Rick Taillieu mailto:rtaill...@eastlink.ca>>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,
Schaefer? '85 33ii
Message-ID: <002f01d1fbea$001573e0$00405ba0$@ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

It look like The Binnacle still carries the side fairings for the old style XA 
clutches.



http://ca.binnacle.com/Sailboat-Hardware-Rope-Clutches- 

 
&-Deck-Organizers-Spinlock-parts/c28_349_417/p3261/SPINLOCK-XA-SIDE-FAIRINGS-(PAIR)/product_info.html





Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.





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Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List
Sent: August-21-16 16:53
To: C&c Stus List
Cc: Dave S
Subject: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock, Schaefer? '85 33ii



Hi All,



Part failure yesterday, a rope clutch broke.   Could replace with similar 
vintage Spinlock or ideally a vintage Schaefer that matches the others.   See 
photos below.   Thanks for looking!



Dave









http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/08/bang-broken-spinlock-rope-clutch.html
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Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Spin or whisker pole longer than J is subject to penalty in most areas

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 8:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

Depending on the size of your boat and the size of the sail you are poling out, 
your spin pole might be perfectly acceptable in lieu of a whisker pole.

I’ve always understood the optimum length of a whisker pole is 80% of the LP of 
the sail being poled out.

80% of a 150 would be 1.2xJ. So if your J was 10’, as on a 27V, the spin pole 
would be about 24” less than optimal. On my 38 mk2 (J=16.3) with a 135, the 
difference between the spin pole and optimal whisker pole would only be about 
15”.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RANDY via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:03 PM
To: cnc-list mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: RANDY mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Assymetrical spinnaker pole

I poled out my 155% genoa last night with the spin pole, because I don't have a 
whisker pole, and I found the spin pole to be almost too long.

Cheers,
Randy

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Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Rick, Andrew, thanks.   As you probably saw, a donor match has been located
through the list (donation to Stu forthcoming - thanks again James).  Am
pleasantly surprised that the parts were still available, not so pleasantly
surprised at the number of period spinlock images I found online that
showed the same failure mode.  Inspect your clutches!

Dave





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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 18:14:27 -0400
From: Andrew Burton 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,
Schaefer? '85 33ii
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I have a few clutches I just took off. They work fine. They may be Lewmars,
though. Any use to you?

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 17:24:21 -0300
From: Rick Taillieu 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock,
Schaefer? '85 33ii
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It look like The Binnacle still carries the side fairings for the old style
XA clutches.



http://ca.binnacle.com/Sailboat-Hardware-Rope-Clutches- <
http://ca.binnacle.com/Sailboat-Hardware-Rope-Clutches-&-Deck-Organizers-
Spinlock-parts/c28_349_417/p3261/SPINLOCK-XA-SIDE-
FAIRINGS-(PAIR)/product_info.html> &-Deck-Organizers-Spinlock-
parts/c28_349_417/p3261/SPINLOCK-XA-SIDE-FAIRINGS-(PAIR)/product_info.html





Rick Taillieu

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S
via CnC-List
Sent: August-21-16 16:53
To: C&c Stus List
Cc: Dave S
Subject: Stus-List Any rope clutches in parts bins? Spinlock, Schaefer? '85
33ii



Hi All,



Part failure yesterday, a rope clutch broke.   Could replace with similar
vintage Spinlock or ideally a vintage Schaefer that matches the others.
 See photos below.   Thanks for looking!



Dave









http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/2016/08/bang-broken-spinlock-rope-clutch.html

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Re: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Everyone I have seen using a window unit in the hatch just steps over it to get 
in and out ;)
Joe
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of James 
Nichols via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 23:02
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: James Nichols
Subject: Stus-List Portable Air Conditioner -- Anyone try it?

I seriously considered the window unit in the companionway before I went with 
the portable unit.  

I decided the portable unit was the way to go because the idea of wresting the 
unit out of the way every time I wanted to exit the boat didn't sound like a 
good idea.  

I'm thinking that if I went with the idea of creating a hood for a hatch where 
the air was forced down into the cabin from above, I could have purchased two 
window units for the price that I paid for the one portable unit, and still had 
more than enough money left over to purchase the materials I needed to make the 
hoods that would direct the air into the hatches.

James
S/V Kristy
1971 C&C 39


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