Re: Stus-List Autopilot control head

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

This might serve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nA6wo9PXls

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:20 PM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Fred,
>
> Correct.   My shorthand was too short...
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> Date: 2/20/17 10:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot control head
>
> David — if it’s a ram-based (not wheel-based) system, you’ll need more
> than just the control head; you’ll also need the course computer to drive
> the ram, along with a heading sensor of some sort.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:00 PM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Any brand.  It's an old ram and any old Control head should work?  No
> networking set.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Home via CnC-List 
> Date: 2/20/17 4:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Home 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Autopilot control head
>
> What brand a model
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>
> Does anybody have a use autopilot control head that they want to sell?
> Thanks in advance
>
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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Only if you spend a lot of time with your head up against the transducer.   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Don Harben via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I am wondering if that might energy might contribute to some stunned operator 
> behaviours?
> 
> Don
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> that much power probably stuns the fish, which then floats to the surface to 
>> be picked up…   :^)
>> 
>> — Fred

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Don Harben via CnC-List]

I am wondering if that might energy might contribute to some stunned operator 
behaviours?

Don


> On Feb 22, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> that much power probably stuns the fish, which then floats to the surface to 
> be picked up…   :^)
> 
> — Fred
> 

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

While doing environmental sampling, we found that electricity really does 
improve fishing; and they do float nicely to the surface.  Netting is so much 
cleaner than getting a hook out.Of course, what we did afterward was really 
messy!RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL

  I’m thinking it makes the fisherman’s job easier, as that much power probably 
stuns the fish, which then floats to the surface to be picked up…   :^)

— Fred

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Jeremy — to get greater depths, you need a transducer that will accept more 
power from the sounder, as well as a sounder that can provide that power.  The 
typical transducer most of us have on our boats is rated at 60 watts; but 
they’ll take up to 100 watts if the sounder can provide that much power.  At 
100 watts, Airmar says they can reach 600 feet in depth under good conditions.

From there, you can jump up to transducers rated at 600 to 1000 watts; these 
are typically used on high-end fish finder systems designed for the greater 
power outputs.  I’m thinking it makes the fisherman’s job easier, as that much 
power probably stuns the fish, which then floats to the surface to be picked 
up…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:09 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Jeremy;
>  
> In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several 
> iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin, Lawrence, 
> and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that would work 
> for depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional” units that will 
> do it, but also suspect they are more expensive than the units we would buy 
> for our recreational boats.
>  
> Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth. 
>  
> But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Jeremy Ralph mailto:jeremy.ra...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List New sonar transducer
>  
> Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the 
> coming weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii) a 
> more elaborate chart plotter with depth.  
>  
> For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a RAM 
> mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an in-hull 
> transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good to have 
> redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft). 
>  
> Any recommendations?
>  
> Thanks,
>   Jeremy 

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Pierre Tremblay via CnC-List]

The Airmar P79 NMEA that I installed gave me good reading when crossing Lake 
Ontario last summer. I saw 680ft. My old B&G Hecta was starting to give random 
values at 600ft. I was supprised as the P79 is an inhull transducer.
Pierre TremblayAvalanche #54988C&C38-3 WK, hull #76 

Le mercredi 22 février 2017 12h43, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List 
 a écrit :
 

 @Marek- Tri-data (depth, temp, speed over water) sounds interesting.  I'll 
check into that.  If I go chartplotter, I'll need to figure is where to mount 
the head unit.   With a tiller, the wheel pedestal is out of the question.
@Rick- Support for depth over 200ft is useful to me for setting prawn traps.  
The sweet spot for catching prawns seems to be between 350 and 250 ft around 
here (Vancouver BC).
Thanks,  Jeremy 
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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List]

@Marek
- Tri-data (depth, temp, speed over water) sounds interesting.  I'll check
into that.  If I go chartplotter, I'll need to figure is where to mount the
head unit.   With a tiller, the wheel pedestal is out of the question.

@Rick
- Support for depth over 200ft is useful to me for setting prawn traps.
The sweet spot for catching prawns seems to be between 350 and 250 ft
around here (Vancouver BC).

Thanks,
  Jeremy
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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

My old Raymarine ST60 depth unit will read to over 600' in the right
conditions. In the wrong conditions it reads to about 450'.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 22 February 2017 at 08:07, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My Ray/Airmar stuff reads to 600, then reads a random number.  In the Gulf
> Stream it must read thermal layers.
>
> Joel
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I sold a ton of Raytheon stuff back in the day that was supposed to read
>> down to between 600 and 1500 feet. Modern combination GPS/fishfinder units
>> should easily see 600 feet and some can pass 10,000 feet.
>>
>> Fishermen use these depth ranges. For sailing strictly to keep off a
>> sandbar, the first 100 feet are important. I use a Standard Horizon DS41
>> unit that fits in a 2” hole and can forward NMEA data.  In theory it reads
>> 2-600 feet, but given my old transducer I have no idea if I could actually
>> see that far. Offshore at night we used to see thermoclines and other stuff
>> that looked like it was 300-400 feet deep.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Coquina
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Matthew
>> L. Wolford via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:18
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer
>>
>>
>>
>> I wondered that, too.  I generally worry about less than 20 feet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:09 AM
>>
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>
>> *Cc:* Rick Brass 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremy;
>>
>>
>>
>> In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several
>> iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin,
>> Lawrence, and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that
>> would work for depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional”
>> units that will do it, but also suspect they are more expensive than the
>> units we would buy for our recreational boats.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth.
>>
>>
>>
>> But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Jeremy Ralph 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List New sonar transducer
>>
>>
>>
>> Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the
>> coming weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii)
>> a more elaborate chart plotter with depth.
>>
>>
>>
>> For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a
>> RAM mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an
>> in-hull transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good
>> to have redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft).
>>
>>
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>   Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

My Ray/Airmar stuff reads to 600, then reads a random number.  In the Gulf
Stream it must read thermal layers.

Joel

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I sold a ton of Raytheon stuff back in the day that was supposed to read
> down to between 600 and 1500 feet. Modern combination GPS/fishfinder units
> should easily see 600 feet and some can pass 10,000 feet.
>
> Fishermen use these depth ranges. For sailing strictly to keep off a
> sandbar, the first 100 feet are important. I use a Standard Horizon DS41
> unit that fits in a 2” hole and can forward NMEA data.  In theory it reads
> 2-600 feet, but given my old transducer I have no idea if I could actually
> see that far. Offshore at night we used to see thermoclines and other stuff
> that looked like it was 300-400 feet deep.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
> L. Wolford via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:18
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer
>
>
>
> I wondered that, too.  I generally worry about less than 20 feet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:09 AM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Cc:* Rick Brass 
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer
>
>
>
> Jeremy;
>
>
>
> In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several
> iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin,
> Lawrence, and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that
> would work for depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional”
> units that will do it, but also suspect they are more expensive than the
> units we would buy for our recreational boats.
>
>
>
> Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth.
>
>
>
> But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Jeremy Ralph 
> *Subject:* Stus-List New sonar transducer
>
>
>
> Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the
> coming weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii)
> a more elaborate chart plotter with depth.
>
>
>
> For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a
> RAM mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an
> in-hull transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good
> to have redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft).
>
>
>
> Any recommendations?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I sold a ton of Raytheon stuff back in the day that was supposed to read down 
to between 600 and 1500 feet. Modern combination GPS/fishfinder units should 
easily see 600 feet and some can pass 10,000 feet.
Fishermen use these depth ranges. For sailing strictly to keep off a sandbar, 
the first 100 feet are important. I use a Standard Horizon DS41 unit that fits 
in a 2” hole and can forward NMEA data.  In theory it reads 2-600 feet, but 
given my old transducer I have no idea if I could actually see that far. 
Offshore at night we used to see thermoclines and other stuff that looked like 
it was 300-400 feet deep.
Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L. 
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

I wondered that, too.  I generally worry about less than 20 feet.

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

Jeremy;

In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several 
iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin, Lawrence, 
and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that would work for 
depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional” units that will do it, 
but also suspect they are more expensive than the units we would buy for our 
recreational boats.

Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth.

But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”

Rick Brass
Washington, NC


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeremy Ralph mailto:jeremy.ra...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Stus-List New sonar transducer

Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the coming 
weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii) a more 
elaborate chart plotter with depth.

For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a RAM 
mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an in-hull 
transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good to have 
redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft).

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
  Jeremy




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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

I wondered that, too.  I generally worry about less than 20 feet.

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

Jeremy;

 

In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several 
iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin, Lawrence, 
and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that would work for 
depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional” units that will do it, 
but also suspect they are more expensive than the units we would buy for our 
recreational boats.

 

Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth. 

 

But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeremy Ralph 
Subject: Stus-List New sonar transducer

 

Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the coming 
weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii) a more 
elaborate chart plotter with depth.  

 

For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a RAM 
mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an in-hull 
transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good to have 
redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft). 

 

Any recommendations?

 

Thanks,

  Jeremy 

 

 

 




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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Jeremy;

 

In 24 years of keelboat ownership, covering several boats and several 
iterations of sounders and plotter/sounders from Raymarine, Garmin, Lawrence, 
and Standard Horizon, I don’t recall ever having a sounder that would work for 
depths over 200 feet. I suspect there are “professional” units that will do it, 
but also suspect they are more expensive than the units we would buy for our 
recreational boats.

 

Maybe Fred Street can weigh in on what would be needed for greater depth. 

 

But my question is” Why do you need depths over 200 ft.?”

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeremy Ralph 
Subject: Stus-List New sonar transducer

 

Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the coming 
weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii) a more 
elaborate chart plotter with depth.  

 

For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a RAM 
mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an in-hull 
transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good to have 
redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft). 

 

Any recommendations?

 

Thanks,

  Jeremy 

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List New sonar transducer

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I would go for a combination. Actually, I did. When I purchased this boat, 
there was no instruments onboard. I wanted depth, but I quickly found that for 
little more and more or less the same effort installing, you can get a basic 
chartplotter. Btw. If you are installing a through hull transducer, consider a 
triple (speed and depth (the third is temperature)).

Marek

1994 C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ralph 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 00:06
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeremy Ralph 
Subject: Stus-List New sonar transducer

Planning to install new thru hull transducer when I haul the boat in the coming 
weeks.  Trying to decide on: i) a simple depth only display, or ii) a more 
elaborate chart plotter with depth.

For chart and depth, I currently use my iPhone in a waterproof case on a RAM 
mount. Navionics for charts and for depth a SonarPhone TBox with an in-hull 
transducer.  This works fine for my purposes but it would be good to have 
redundancy and something that works for deeper depths (>200ft).

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
  Jeremy



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