Re: Stus-List Spreader halyards 37+

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Yachting Monthly had a review a few years back (2005?). The review is freely 
available off the Internet 
(http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/archive/how-well-does-your-radar-reflector-work-2874).

I am not sure if this is the one Dave meant. Regardless, it is worth a look.

Marek

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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 19:52
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Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spreader halyards 37+

Have you seen the performance data on different radar reflectors?  Some are not 
worth putting up if you really need to be seen. The cylindrical they tested was 
one of the worst.  I have a pdf I can send to anyone interested.  There are 
probably other reviews out there as well.  Dave

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Mitchell's via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Ron,
Not sure if you have looked at this option but we have a cylindrical radar 
reflector that is zip tied to the back stay above the split. Causes us no 
grief, it's quiet and works.
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+.

Sent from my mobile device.

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1990 C 34+
New London, CT

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Re: Stus-List Spreader halyards 37+

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Have you seen the performance data on different radar reflectors?  Some are not 
worth putting up if you really need to be seen. The cylindrical they tested was 
one of the worst.  I have a pdf I can send to anyone interested.  There are 
probably other reviews out there as well.  Dave

> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Mitchell's via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Ron, 
> Not sure if you have looked at this option but we have a cylindrical radar 
> reflector that is zip tied to the back stay above the split. Causes us no 
> grief, it's quiet and works. 
> Len Mitchell
> Crazy Legs 
> 1989 37+. 
> 
> Sent from my mobile device. 
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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

I also recommend the Sound Down insulation.  It works well and is fairly easy 
to install.

 

Jake

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 10:50
To: C List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

 

Bruce,

 

Though I have yet to use it, I’ve heard great stories about this stuff: 
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349105 
 
=3018333 

 

Aside from that, the best way to insulate the engine and reduce engine noise is 
get the jib out. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log  

 

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Re: Stus-List Drilling a Hole in the Hull

[Damian Greene via CnC-List]

Tom,
Maybe stating the obvious, but I would try drilling a test hole in a piece of 
scrap plywood, to test out getting a snug fit. It's not easy to change the size 
of the hole once drilled :-)
Damian
C 34 GHOSTBass Harbor, Maine

  From: Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Sam Salter 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Drilling a Hole in the Hull
   
Using tape and starting in reverse to drill a neat hole through gel coat is 
good advice.
Depending on where you drill, you might get balsa core, especially above the 
waterline  (not sure if the 35 has a cored hull)
I don't think silicone has any place on a boat. I'd use Sikaflex. (I'm not keen 
on butyl either‎ - my deck to hull joint is butyl and it drips everywhere!)
‎Why a 1 1/4" hole for a 1 1/8" fitting? 

sam :-)
C 26 Liquorice 
Ghost Lake Alberta 

  Original Message  
From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 10:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: Stus-List Drilling a Hole in the Hull

3M 4200 will work, but if the fitting is plastic, chances are you will be 
replacing it again someday. 4200 is not as difficult as 5200, but neither is 
easy to remove. Above the waterline through hulls are the only place that I use 
silicone. Polysulfide (Life Caulk) would probably work, but there is a caution 
about its use with plastics, and I don't know why. All of the plastic tank vent 
through hulls, the shower through hull, and the electric bilge through hulls 
needed replacement on my C Southern sunshine!

Steve Thomas

 Thomas Delaney via CnC-List  wrote: 
Hi listers,

Thanks, everyone, for your advice on the solar charging system and ACR.
Onto the next project!

I'm going to be drilling a hole in the hull to install a
well-above-the-waterline thruhull for a bilge pump discharge hose. The
thruhull is 1 1/8" inch, so I'm going to use a 1 1/4" hole saw drill bit.
I'm going to seal it with 3m 4200. Does this plan make sense? Are there any
surprises to expect?

Thanks,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C 35 Mk I
City Island, NY


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Stus-List Spreader halyards 37+

[Mitchell's via CnC-List]

Ron, 
Not sure if you have looked at this option but we have a cylindrical radar 
reflector that is zip tied to the back stay above the split. Causes us no 
grief, it's quiet and works. 
Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs 
1989 37+. 

Sent from my mobile device. 

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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[John Russo via CnC-List]

Bruce,

 

I did this on my 1984 C 32 and the results are great using 1” thick with 
reflective surface and foam and actually a Rubber intermediate layer. I 
purchased the material from Defender and would recommend the kit or components 
of the kit for the most straight forward approach. I did not do that but use 
the same screw mounting holes of the original insulation but had to transfer 
those holes using blackened wet Q tips to cardboard templates which were the 
same templates for cutting the insulation and then using a small soldering iron 
to make holes in the insulation because it cannot be drilled without tearing up 
the foam insulation. Laborious but good results. Used reflective ducting tape 
from Home Depot for seams and used large fender washers for mounting. The kit 
has glue and nails with large washers and has to be  much easier. Good luck!

 

John

Arpeggio

C 32 1984 

Norwalk, CT  

 

rFrom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruce 
Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:44 AM
To: C List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

 

Hello all,

 

Our 1994 C 37/40+ engine insulation is dropping bits of black dust 
everywhere!  As a result, I want to replace it.  What do you folks recommend, 
and are there any hints to replacing it?

 

Thanks! 

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Spreader Halyards - 37+

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I carry a Davis because the Offshore regs require it, not because it works.

Hopefully US Sailing will wise up.

Joel

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Before you pull the trigger on a radar reflector read this:
>
> http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/
> uploads/sites/20/filebank/reflector_performance_ym_june.pdf
>
> I don't bother using one anymore.
>
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m planning to put spreader halyards on Patriot primarily for a radar
>> reflector.  My thought is to put one block a few inches in from the shrouds
>> and another about 12” in from the first block.  Does anyone have any
>> guidance or photos they can share?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Ron*
>>
>> Ron Ricci
>>
>> S/V Patriot
>>
>> C 37+
>>
>> Bristol, RI
>>
>> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Spreader Halyards - 37+

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Before you pull the trigger on a radar reflector read this:

http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/filebank/reflector_performance_ym_june.pdf

I don't bother using one anymore.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine



On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I’m planning to put spreader halyards on Patriot primarily for a radar
> reflector.  My thought is to put one block a few inches in from the shrouds
> and another about 12” in from the first block.  Does anyone have any
> guidance or photos they can share?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Halifax acrylic suppliers - was Re: Windows Pt 2.

[Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  


Just bought a 4x8 sheet of dark grey 3/8" cast acrylic (2074)
  from Piedmont Plastics (should arrive in 2 weeks).
And yes, my CS 30 appears to have grey rather than bronze
  windows.  My forward hatch was replaced by the PO - definitely a
  dark grey tint.  

I'll be replacing the 4 side windows using the VHB tape method -
  hopefully with enough left over to replace the "glass" from the 2
  older hatches.
Mark



There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2017-04-06 9:18 AM, robert via
  CnC-List wrote:


  
  His boat is a CS 30, not a C CS used grey?
  
  Rob Abbott
  AZURA
  C 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S.
  
  On 2017-04-05 2:35 PM, Frederick G
Street via CnC-List wrote:
  
  

Bronze is what was used originally on the C, both for the
fixed windows and the hatches, FWIW…


— Fred
   

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C
Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
   
  

  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Spreader Halyards - 37+

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Ron,

We used two blocks to make a triangle so the reflector does not chafe
through the line after loosing a reflector with a one-block system.  (The
outer 'block' was a stainless ring luggage tagged around the shroud and
spreader)  I also made a bridle out of wire fishing leader to attach to the
reflector.  Make sure the inboard block is at about the midpoint of the
spreader so the reflector is centered in the space.

Joel

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I’m planning to put spreader halyards on Patriot primarily for a radar
> reflector.  My thought is to put one block a few inches in from the shrouds
> and another about 12” in from the first block.  Does anyone have any
> guidance or photos they can share?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Spreader Halyards - 37+

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

I'm planning to put spreader halyards on Patriot primarily for a radar
reflector.  My thought is to put one block a few inches in from the shrouds
and another about 12" in from the first block.  Does anyone have any
guidance or photos they can share?  

 

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI

  ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Bruce,

 

I did my 37+ several years ago using square tiles I bought from: 
https://www.sailorssolutions.com/?page=Products 

 =121=Soundproofing=Engine%20Room.  The 
perimeter of the removable panels was faced with closed 3/8” and 3/4” thick 
cell vinyl nitrile tape from: 
https://www.can-dotape.com/product-category/products/foam-tapes/vinyl-nitrile-foam-tapes/.
  This provided a good seating surface for the access doors.  

 

I’ll try to get some photos next time I go to the boat.

 

Ron

 

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Whitmore via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 10:44 AM
To: C List
Cc: Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

 

Hello all,

 

Our 1994 C 37/40+ engine insulation is dropping bits of black dust 
everywhere!  As a result, I want to replace it.  What do you folks recommend, 
and are there any hints to replacing it?

 

Thanks! 

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
  bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

SoundDown kit from Jamestown Distributors worked for me.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Apr 6, 2017 10:44 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Our 1994 C 37/40+ engine insulation is dropping bits of black dust
> everywhere!  As a result, I want to replace it.  What do you folks
> recommend, and are there any hints to replacing it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Bruce,

Though I have yet to use it, I’ve heard great stories about this stuff: 
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|2349105=3018333 
 

Aside from that, the best way to insulate the engine and reduce engine noise is 
get the jib out. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 




> On Apr 6, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Our 1994 C 37/40+ engine insulation is dropping bits of black dust 
> everywhere!  As a result, I want to replace it.  What do you folks recommend, 
> and are there any hints to replacing it?
> 
> Thanks! 
>  
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Stus-List Engine compartment insulation?

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all,
Our 1994 C 37/40+ engine insulation is dropping bits of black dust 
everywhere!  As a result, I want to replace it.  What do you folks recommend, 
and are there any hints to replacing it?
Thanks! 
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter replacement

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Josh,

 

I am impressed with your video and may copy some of your mods next season.  
Where is your seawater strainer?  My Racor is in the same location as yours but 
my seawater strainer is above and slightly forward of it.  The seawater lines 
run from the inlet valve to the strainer and back to the raw water pump along 
the port bilge.

 

Regards,

Ron

Ron Ricci

S/V Patriot

C 37+

Bristol, RI

  ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:42 AM
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter replacement

 

I hated how much fuel needed to be vented off my racor 200FG and it still never 
seemed to be completely vented.  The original vent was just a knurled knob on 
the outlet sife fitting.  It wasn't even at the highest point of the filter 
housing and didn't allow catching the vented fuel.  I started thinking about 
how to maybe get a higher vent point.  First I drilled and tapped a hole in the 
top of the housing and put a typical brake bleed type of fitting.  It worked 
but necessitated using small tubing to direct the vented fuel into a bottle.  
It wasn't until I performed this mod that I realized just how much fuel needed 
to be vented in order to flush all the air out of the filter.  I was usually 
looking at about 1 gallon of fuel just to get all the air out.

 

I started thinking about how to direct that vented fuel back to the tank.  I 
was going to run a return fuel line when it occurred to me that the engine 
already has a return fuel line from the injectors.  I changed the bleeder valve 
to a t-handle valve.  Then I inserted a tee fitting and t-handled valve in the 
return fuel hose.  Then I connected the 2 t-handled valves with some clear 
tubing.

 

The 2 t-handled valves isolate the vent tubing during normal operation and 
maintain the integrity of the original components.  When venting, both 
t-handled valves are openwd to create a flow path back to the tank.  You can 
watch the air bubbles in the clear tubing disapate as the vent continues.

 

See my video at about 2:10 minutes.

https://youtu.be/H-GI38vE4hQ?t=2m12s

 

These engines take a 2 micron engine filter and I run a 2 micron racor. The 
racor is now easier to change and bleed so I prefer it to clog first.  I also 
show a vacuum gage which I installed on my racor in the video.  A new racor 
filter has shown to have very low vacuum so whenever it starts to creep up I 
change it...hasn't happened yet.

 

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

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Stus-List Halifax acrylic suppliers - was Re: Windows Pt 2.

[robert via CnC-List]

His boat is a CS 30, not a C CS used grey?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-04-05 2:35 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
Bronze is what was used originally on the C, both for the fixed 
windows and the hatches, FWIW…


— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(



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