Re: Stus-List furling line

[Leslie Paal via CnC-List]

yes,  Leslie
Phoenix C&C32 1983


On Mon, 5/29/17, Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List furling line
 To: "CnClist" 
 Cc: "Dennis C." 
 Date: Monday, May 29, 2017, 6:48 PM
 
 How many of you have a
 ratcheting block on your furling line?
 Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearing

[JP Mail via CnC-List]

If you're pulling the prop shaft it's fairly easy. Hack saw through the brass 
liner then bend it in and peel it away from strut. Strut pros work perfectly on 
brand new struts and cutlass bearings. Watch the video. Otherwise they are 
finicky. But work. They need to be perfectly seated to work smoothly. 
Jp

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> On May 31, 2017, at 2:37 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The yard I go to used a hydraulic press to remove it.  Came out like it was 
> greased.  I don't remember whether it had a set screw on top of another set 
> screw. to hold it in place.
> 
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
> 
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi 
>> 
>> Has anybody replaced their cutlass bearing on a C&C 35mk3?
>> I, tried to remove it with the shaft in place, but the tool I borrowed
>> did not work.
>> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Gerry Fennessey
>> Fianna C&C 35 MK3 
>> 
>> Gerald Fennessey
>> gfennes...@verizon.net
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Re: Stus-List Cutlass bearing

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

The yard I go to used a hydraulic press to remove it.  Came out like it was
greased.  I don't remember whether it had a set screw on top of another set
screw. to hold it in place.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Has anybody replaced their cutlass bearing on a C&C 35mk3?
> I, tried to remove it with the shaft in place, but the tool I borrowed
> did not work.
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Gerry Fennessey
> Fianna C&C 35 MK3
>
> Gerald Fennessey
> gfennes...@verizon.net
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Stus-List Cutlass bearing

[Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List]

Hi 


Has anybody replaced their cutlass bearing on a C&C 35mk3?
I, tried to remove it with the shaft in place, but the tool I borrowed
did not work.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks
Gerry Fennessey
Fianna C&C 35 MK3 


Gerald Fennessey
gfennes...@verizon.net

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Re: Stus-List Chesapeake bay

[RANDY via CnC-List]

I've got to say, I agree with you :) 

Don't know how many 30s are on the Chesapeake, but found this video from two 
years ago of one ripping along at 6.5 kts SOG: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzsfZRu2EE, posted by "AdmiralMaggieMD". 

Started this 2017 photo album of Grenadine on Chatfield Reservoir: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTVnJfSm9lRnZNa1E 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

- Original Message -

From: "Andrew Burton via CnC-List"  
To: "cnc-list"  
Cc: "Andrew Burton"  
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:28:48 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Chesapeake bay 

Just passed a gorgeous 30 named Foxy ghosting beautifully along at the head of 
Chesapeake Bay. Love those boats! 

Andy 
C&C 40 
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton 
61 West Narragansett Ave 
Newport, RI 
USA 02840 

+401 965 5260 


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Stus-List keel draft was C&C 40 for sale

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

.. and more related to C&Cs

The C&C 99 originally came with I believe 6.5 ft keel and then a couple years 
later offered optional shoal draft 5.5 ft keel.  I believe it was the 
Chesapeake owners that convinced C&C to do away with the deeper keel and make 
the 5.5 ft keel the only keel.  C&C offered conversion kits and many switched 
keels.

The sad part about this is that there was C&C one design racing prior to the 
change and shortly afterward it faded away.  The boat performs much better than 
the 6 sec/mile rating difference with the rare deep keel carbon mast 
configuration.

I find it very interesting that the J105 fleet went the other way in the same 
area!

Mike
Persistence
Halifax NS


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck S
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale


Just sharing an interesting story about 39) J-105's on Chesapeake Bay that 
converted from shallow draft to 6' 6" deep draft to be more competitive back in 
2003/4.   Both Rob Ball and Robert Perry stated to go as deep as you can for 
best performance.



http://www.j105fleet3.org/files/knowledge/Keel%20Change%20101.pdf



However, I changed my keel from our boat's  original 7' 4" draft to a 6' 3" Rob 
Ball designed keel from Mars Metals back in 2008.   The change made her a 
little more tender initially, but that's better in lighter winds, and I think 
she is less stiff and a little more responsive.


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
On May 30, 2017 at 10:53 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I asked Rob Ball about doing that to my deep draft 40 and he replied something 
to the effect of, "if I'd thought it was a good idea, I would have designed the 
boat that way!"
I'd love to have a shallower boat, but I'd hate to lose the wonderful way she 
sails. Sailing wins!
It's like a fellow who would love it if his wife was calmer, but a lobotomy 
would take away all the stuff he loves too.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260


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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Just sharing an interesting story about 39) J-105's on Chesapeake Bay that 
converted from shallow draft to 6' 6" deep draft to be more competitive back in 
2003/4.   Both Rob Ball and Robert Perry stated to go as deep as you can for 
best performance.


http://www.j105fleet3.org/files/knowledge/Keel%20Change%20101.pdf


However, I changed my keel from our boat's  original 7' 4" draft to a 6' 3" Rob 
Ball designed keel from Mars Metals back in 2008.   The change made her a 
little more tender initially, but that's better in lighter winds, and I think 
she is less stiff and a little more responsive.   


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

> On May 30, 2017 at 10:53 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I asked Rob Ball about doing that to my deep draft 40 and he replied 
> something to the effect of, "if I'd thought it was a good idea, I would have 
> designed the boat that way!" 
> I'd love to have a shallower boat, but I'd hate to lose the wonderful way 
> she sails. Sailing wins!
> It's like a fellow who would love it if his wife was calmer, but a 
> lobotomy would take away all the stuff he loves too.
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On May 30, 2017, at 21:27, Rick Brass via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > 
> > I had the keel on Imzadi reduced from 6’1” to 5’6”, and installed a 
> > torpedo made by Mars Metals. Back when I had it done, the cost was about 
> > $3600. Mars was making the keels for Benneteau in South Carolina, and they 
> > shipped my bulb on the back of a load going to Benneteau so shipping was 
> > cheap. I expect that the same bulb would be more now because lead is more 
> > expensive. Ditto the scrap value of the lead block you cut off.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > We cut the keel with a chainsaw, weighed it and reported the weight 
> > to Mars, they sent me a bulb that fit the profile of the keel and bolted in 
> > place with ½” carriage bolts they supplied. IIRC, the lost keel weighed 850 
> > pounds and the bulb weighed 1150 (or something like that). The boat still 
> > points well and NCPHRF gave me 6 seconds for shortening the keel.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Rick Brass
> > 
> > Washington, NC
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:33 PM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc: Bruno Lachance  > mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com >
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I saw a few C&Cs with draft réductions around here. Mars metal, 
> > who i understand produced the keels for most of our boats, have the 
> > templates, datas and know how to produce a bulb in two sections that you 
> > can bolt to the reduced keel and fair. A kind of DIY kit. You can cut the 
> > keel with a chainsawand they will calculate the weight of the bulb to 
> > compensate for the loss. they should also advise you if you are going too 
> > far, from what i heard they have a good knowledge of our boats.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > https://marskeel.com/ https://marskeel.com/
> > 
> > 
> > MarsKeel |Production Lead Keels for the Sailboat Industry 
> > https://marskeel.com/http://marskeel.com
> > 
> > 
> > For 35 years Mars Keel Technology has united its passion for 
> > sailing & vast technical experience to supply quality keels to builders & 
> > sailors worldwide
> > 
> > 
> > The shipping will be expensive!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bruno Lachance
> > 
> > Bécassine, 1987 33 mkII (will splash this thuesday!)
> > New-Richmond, Qc
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > De : CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > de la part de Danny Haughey via 
> > CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Envoyé : 30 mai 2017 16:11
> > À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Cc : Danny Haughey
> > Objet : Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The yard I was at in westport did it on a C&C 41 I looked at
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On 5/30/2017 4:10 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > The guy with the 40 for sale in the Rio Dulce did 
> > > it...with success he says. 
> > > 
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > C&C 40
> > > 
> > > Peregrine
> 

Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

It isn’t like or dislike, it is the boat physically cannot get into my marina.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

 

Coquina

C&C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Burton via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale

 

I asked Rob Ball about doing that to my deep draft 40 and he replied something 
to the effect of, "if I'd thought it was a good idea, I would have designed the 
boat that way!" 

I'd love to have a shallower boat, but I'd hate to lose the wonderful way she 
sails. Sailing wins!

It's like a fellow who would love it if his wife was calmer, but a lobotomy 
would take away all the stuff he loves too.

 

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

Andrew Burton

61 W Narragansett

Newport, RI 

USA02840

 

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

+401 965-5260


On May 30, 2017, at 21:27, Rick Brass via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I had the keel on Imzadi reduced from 6’1” to 5’6”, and installed a torpedo 
made by Mars Metals. Back when I had it done, the cost was about $3600. Mars 
was making the keels for Benneteau in South Carolina, and they shipped my bulb 
on the back of a load going to Benneteau so shipping was cheap. I expect that 
the same bulb would be more now because lead is more expensive. Ditto the scrap 
value of the lead block you cut off.

 

We cut the keel with a chainsaw, weighed it and reported the weight to Mars, 
they sent me a bulb that fit the profile of the keel and bolted in place with 
½” carriage bolts they supplied. IIRC, the lost keel weighed 850 pounds and the 
bulb weighed 1150 (or something like that). The boat still points well and 
NCPHRF gave me 6 seconds for shortening the keel.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno 
Lachance via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Bruno Lachance mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale

 

I saw a few C&Cs with draft réductions around here. Mars metal, who i 
understand produced the keels for most of our boats, have the templates, datas 
and know how to produce a bulb in two sections that you can bolt to the reduced 
keel and fair. A kind of DIY kit. You can cut the keel with a chainsawand they 
will calculate the weight of the bulb to compensate for the loss. they should 
also advise you if you are going too far, from what i heard they have a good 
knowledge of our boats.

 

https://marskeel.com/


  

  MarsKeel |Production Lead Keels for the Sailboat 
Industry

marskeel.com  

For 35 years Mars Keel Technology has united its passion for sailing & vast 
technical experience to supply quality keels to builders & sailors worldwide

The shipping will be expensive!

 

Bruno Lachance

Bécassine, 1987 33 mkII (will splash this thuesday!)
New-Richmond, Qc

 


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De : CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > de la part de Danny Haughey via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Envoyé : 30 mai 2017 16:11
À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc : Danny Haughey
Objet : Re: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale 

 

The yard I was at in westport did it on a C&C 41 I looked at

 

On 5/30/2017 4:10 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:

The guy with the 40 for sale in the Rio Dulce did it...with success he says. 

Andy

C&C 40

Peregrine

Andrew Burton 

61 West Narragansett Ave

Newport, RI 

USA 02840

 

+401 965 5260

 


On May 30, 2017, at 15:59, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Anyone know how hard it is to saw a foot or two off the keel?

6 feet is the absolute max for me.

 

Joe

Coquina

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Joel Aronson mailto:joel.aron...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40 for sale

 

Saw this listing:

 

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/6153505462.html

 

Don't know the boat.


 

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301 541 8551

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Stus-List Annapolis Newport race

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

All,

The race starts Friday for the slower boats, Saturday for the faster
boats.  Sadly, there are no C&Cs entered this year.  I'll be on a Baltic
38, Tenacious.

I hope to be in Newport Tuesday dining at the Black Pearl.

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