Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

I had read somewhere that Southshore had the files (must have been a source
written prior to them tossing them) l sent an email asking about them in
August. No response. Don't know about you ... but that tells me something.

On Oct 14, 2017 3:23 PM, "Ted Drossos via CnC-List" 
wrote:

I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other
construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't
remember who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can
anyone provide contact information? Thanks

Ted Drossos
C&C 110 Lady in Red
Long Island, NY

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Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[bushmark4--- via CnC-List]

 I have purchased the build file for two prior C&Cs, and When I purchased my 37 
in 2014, I called south shore to inquire about purchasing the build file: I was 
told by south Shore that all of the files had been tossed because they "didn't 
want to mess with them anymore"...: I will not do business with them because of 
their senseless and selfish trashing of such and valuable resource; 

 


Richard
s/v Bushmark4: C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4:
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C build files



South Shore Yachts had the build files. I bought mine there in 2010.  As Joe B. 
said and I also understand, the storage fees were higher than the return 
investment. They threatened to toss the remaining files in the trash a few 
years ago.  I assume they did, you could ask.



The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston, Ontario has the archives of 
other construction documents.  I purchased pdf's of my boat construction 
drawings from them by email in 2012 or so.


Ken H.




On 14 October 2017 at 20:11, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  
wrote:

South Shore Yachts had the files . The storage fees were higher than the return 
investment . I think he tossed the remaining files in the trash a few years ago 
. You can try to contact them and ask 


Sent from Joe Bognar





On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List  
wrote:



I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other 
construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't remember 
who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can anyone provide 
contact information? Thanks


Ted Drossos
C&C 110 Lady in Red 
Long Island, NY



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Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

South Shore Yachts had the build files. I bought mine there in 2010.  As
Joe B. said and I also understand, the storage fees were higher than the
return investment. They threatened to toss the remaining files in the trash
a few years ago.  I assume they did, you could ask.

The Marine Museum of the Great Lakes in Kingston, Ontario has the archives
of other construction documents.  I purchased pdf's of my boat construction
drawings from them by email in 2012 or so.

Ken H.


On 14 October 2017 at 20:11, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> South Shore Yachts had the files . The storage fees were higher than the
> return investment . I think he tossed the remaining files in the trash a
> few years ago . You can try to contact them and ask
>
> Sent from Joe Bognar
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other
> construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't
> remember who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can
> anyone provide contact information? Thanks
>
> Ted Drossos
> C&C 110 Lady in Red
> Long Island, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[Lee via CnC-List]

HI Ted,Is racing still on? I believe the files are at Great Lakes Marine Museum 
but don't quote me!!!.See you soon.Lee
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Ted Drossos via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Ted Drossos 
Sent: Sat, Oct 14, 2017 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C build files


I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other 
construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't remember 
who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can anyone provide 
contact information? Thanks


Ted Drossos
C&C 110 Lady in Red 
Long Island, NY

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Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

South Shore Yachts had the files . The storage fees were higher than the return 
investment . I think he tossed the remaining files in the trash a few years ago 
. You can try to contact them and ask 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Ted Drossos via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other 
> construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't remember 
> who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can anyone provide 
> contact information? Thanks
> 
> Ted Drossos
> C&C 110 Lady in Red 
> Long Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Bad engine?

[Syerdave--- via CnC-List]

Head gasket fail allowing coolant into engine.   Not good.

Dave

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 8:09 AM, David  wrote:
> 
> I just rebuilt my Yanmars top end.   He may call me for specifics.
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of svpegasus38 via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:27 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: svpegasus38
> Subject: Stus-List Bad engine?
>  
> A friend has a Catalina 36 with the Universal 25 engine that overheated, and 
> now won't start. 
> 1. Excessive blowby 
> 2. Smoke in coolant tank
> 3. Oil level is 2 inches above full mark.
>  Oil just changed just after overheated. 
> 4. New heat exchanger just replaced. After overheating, coolant was full, now 
> empty. 
> 5. When it did start lots of white smoke from exhaust. 
> 6. Was in process of changing fuel filters when I noticed the empty coolant 
> tank, smoke in coolant tank, and over full oil.
> 
> Thinking he needs a new engine, or maybe rebuild this one. 
> Any advice from the awesome minds on the list is welcome.
> 
> Already offered him Pegasus. Lol.
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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> Pegasus (for sale) 
> Lf38 
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Re: Stus-List C&C build files

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

I don't recall who has the library of remaining C&C build files and other 
construction documents. I know it's not South Shore Yacht but can't remember 
who it is. I'm looking for information about a custom 44. Can anyone provide 
contact information? Thanks


Ted Drossos
C&C 110 Lady in Red 
Long Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

You should have an industrial fastener supply company around you, I know
they can usually source all kinds of odd bolts.

Fastenal is one I know of that is a major chain, but they were 6x more
expensive per bolt for some 6mm shoulder bolts I needed for our
transmission.

On Oct 13, 2017 6:44 PM, "David via CnC-List"  wrote:

> So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how but the bolt
> that keeps it all together deep sixed.
>
>
> No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from Aqua Signal.
>   Three emails.  No response.
>
>
> So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems like a holy
> Grail bolt to me.
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks, *once again*, in advance.
>
>
> 1981 40-2
>
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Re: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

I replaced my lead acid batteries with AGM batteries.  Two 6 volt batteries
in series for my house bank, and one 12 volt for my starting battery.  I
also replaced my 35 amp alternator with a Balmar (I think 120 amp) with
external regulator.  My engine is a Yanmar 3gmf, twenty hp, and I have not
had a problem with being under powered because of the higher rated
alternator.  When an alternator is rated at 120 amps, it doesn't mean that
it is always pumping out 120 amps.  That's the maximum it can put out based
on the load.  The load determines how much current is drawn.  I have
refrigeration, and I have replaced all of my lights (cabin and running
lights) with LED bulbs.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I talked to a Nova-Cool rep at one time who said that typically a 100w
> solar panel could keep one of their 12v refrigerator system operating
> indefinitely.  There are too many variables to say this absolutely but lets
> assume the rep was right.  The Nova-Cool system is based on a Danfoss
> compressor which is pretty ubiquitous, has plenty of parts and service
> knowledge.  I have and Alder-Barbor system which is based on the Danfoss
> compressor.  I'm quite satisfied and would recommend that you consider a
> Danfoss unit.
>
> Lets consider some hypothetical numbers based on the rep's info.  If a
> 100w panel were %100 effective and operated for 8 hours, you would get
> 800w-hrs of power per day.  800w divided by 12v = 67amp-hrs.  67 divided by
> 24hrs = 2.8amps current draw on average.
>
> That kinda gives you a ball park for what type of loads you'll be facing.
> Round up to 5amps/hr if you like for margin.  5 *24=120AHr per day.  A
> typical automotive size lead-acid battery has ~100AHrs capacity and you
> don't want to discharge below 50% so a minimum of 2 batteries in parallel
> (200AHr) would be required as your house battery bank to run only your
> refrigerator 24 hours a day with only a 100w solar panel.  If you are not
> on the boat you probably don't need the fridge on so the solar would keep
> the batteries topped up and if you are on board then you are probably
> starting the engine to at least get in and out of port (or on and off the
> hook).
>
> Lets assume that you run the engine a cumulative total of 1 hour per day
> and you have a minimum size alternator of 35 amps.  Lets also assume that
> it is putting out the full 35amps during the entire hour (it doesn't
> because output current is based on engine rpm).  Lets also assume that the
> charging efficiency of the batteries is 100%.  You can see pretty quickly
> that 35amps per day is not going to keep up with the 120amp (or even the
> 67amp) per day load of your refrigerator.  So now you have options, run the
> engine longer or get a larger alternator.
>
> You have to be careful that the alternator charge current is not going to
> exceed the charge rate for the type of battery which you have.  Lead acid =
> 25% of capacity.  Gel = 30%, and AGM = 40%.  So if you have 2 auto style
> AGM batteries at ~100 amps each then your bank is 200AHrs and you should
> limit your max charging current to 80amps.  At 80 amps and 1 hour of run
> time per day you're getting closer to being able to keep up with the needs
> of your refrigerator.
>
> AGM does not NEED to be charged at a higher rate but it CAN be.  AGM does
> need to be charged at a slightly different voltage profile otherwise
> gassing can occur and since it is AGM once the gas is gone it can't be put
> back in.  Even with a higher capacity alternator you will still need an
> external voltage regulator which would allow you to select the AGM
> profile.  Almost all battery chargers, alternators and solar controlers
> will charge a lead-acid (as a base model or by default) and if gassing
> occurs you can and should replace it by watering.  If you have room I
> suggest increasing your bank to the largest available lead-acid
> configuration and sizing the charging equipment as applicable.  IMO You'll
> get more bang for your buck and save yourself a bunch of other
> complications.
>
> Obviously there are a lot of variables but you should be able to apply
> your own needs and expected usage.  As a point of reference I have ~450Ahr
> on bank 1 and ~200AHr on bank 2.  I have 200w solar and a 90amp
> alternator.  I've been able to go on multi week trips and have never pulled
> into port because of a need for shore power or ice.  In my case water is
> the first limiting necessity (I have ~70 gallons) followed in the far
> distance by a need to pump my holding tank (~150 flushes).
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2017 11:50 AM, "DON JONSSON via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the
>> original Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake mani

Re: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I talked to a Nova-Cool rep at one time who said that typically a 100w
solar panel could keep one of their 12v refrigerator system operating
indefinitely.  There are too many variables to say this absolutely but lets
assume the rep was right.  The Nova-Cool system is based on a Danfoss
compressor which is pretty ubiquitous, has plenty of parts and service
knowledge.  I have and Alder-Barbor system which is based on the Danfoss
compressor.  I'm quite satisfied and would recommend that you consider a
Danfoss unit.

Lets consider some hypothetical numbers based on the rep's info.  If a 100w
panel were %100 effective and operated for 8 hours, you would get 800w-hrs
of power per day.  800w divided by 12v = 67amp-hrs.  67 divided by 24hrs =
2.8amps current draw on average.

That kinda gives you a ball park for what type of loads you'll be facing.
Round up to 5amps/hr if you like for margin.  5 *24=120AHr per day.  A
typical automotive size lead-acid battery has ~100AHrs capacity and you
don't want to discharge below 50% so a minimum of 2 batteries in parallel
(200AHr) would be required as your house battery bank to run only your
refrigerator 24 hours a day with only a 100w solar panel.  If you are not
on the boat you probably don't need the fridge on so the solar would keep
the batteries topped up and if you are on board then you are probably
starting the engine to at least get in and out of port (or on and off the
hook).

Lets assume that you run the engine a cumulative total of 1 hour per day
and you have a minimum size alternator of 35 amps.  Lets also assume that
it is putting out the full 35amps during the entire hour (it doesn't
because output current is based on engine rpm).  Lets also assume that the
charging efficiency of the batteries is 100%.  You can see pretty quickly
that 35amps per day is not going to keep up with the 120amp (or even the
67amp) per day load of your refrigerator.  So now you have options, run the
engine longer or get a larger alternator.

You have to be careful that the alternator charge current is not going to
exceed the charge rate for the type of battery which you have.  Lead acid =
25% of capacity.  Gel = 30%, and AGM = 40%.  So if you have 2 auto style
AGM batteries at ~100 amps each then your bank is 200AHrs and you should
limit your max charging current to 80amps.  At 80 amps and 1 hour of run
time per day you're getting closer to being able to keep up with the needs
of your refrigerator.

AGM does not NEED to be charged at a higher rate but it CAN be.  AGM does
need to be charged at a slightly different voltage profile otherwise
gassing can occur and since it is AGM once the gas is gone it can't be put
back in.  Even with a higher capacity alternator you will still need an
external voltage regulator which would allow you to select the AGM
profile.  Almost all battery chargers, alternators and solar controlers
will charge a lead-acid (as a base model or by default) and if gassing
occurs you can and should replace it by watering.  If you have room I
suggest increasing your bank to the largest available lead-acid
configuration and sizing the charging equipment as applicable.  IMO You'll
get more bang for your buck and save yourself a bunch of other
complications.

Obviously there are a lot of variables but you should be able to apply your
own needs and expected usage.  As a point of reference I have ~450Ahr on
bank 1 and ~200AHr on bank 2.  I have 200w solar and a 90amp alternator.
I've been able to go on multi week trips and have never pulled into port
because of a need for shore power or ice.  In my case water is the first
limiting necessity (I have ~70 gallons) followed in the far distance by a
need to pump my holding tank (~150 flushes).

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Oct 14, 2017 11:50 AM, "DON JONSSON via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the
> original Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake manifold
> caused by serious blow back.  There is also a transmission problem, where
> it doesn't always go into gear.
>
> So the decision has been made to put a new engine in, and as someone
> mentioned over capitalize the boat.  But we sail to the outside of
> Vancouver Island and up north to where engine problems would be a super
> pain.  (Soon I will post information about the engine and extra parts in
> case anyone is interested.  It has an almost brand new exhaust riser on it
> built by Gartside.)
>
> The old engine is out and we are now sound insulating the engine
> compartment.
>
> The boat currently has an ice box but putting in refrigeration is high on
> the list.  Getting ice rapidly becomes a challenge as you head off.  This
> would imply more battery power and an alternator to keep it going.  We are
> looking at a Beta 25 for which you can get a 75 or 120 amp alternator.
> Because of limited battery space I'm thinking of using AGM batteries which
> you can suck more am

Re: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[David via CnC-List]

With a 25 HP do not go more than 75 amp.   Too much lost for that HP.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: DON JONSSON via CnC-List 
Date: 10/14/17 11:51 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: DON JONSSON 
Subject: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

Hi

I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the original 
Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake manifold caused by 
serious blow back.  There is also a transmission problem, where it doesn't 
always go into gear.

So the decision has been made to put a new engine in, and as someone mentioned 
over capitalize the boat.  But we sail to the outside of Vancouver Island and 
up north to where engine problems would be a super pain.  (Soon I will post 
information about the engine and extra parts in case anyone is interested.  It 
has an almost brand new exhaust riser on it built by Gartside.)

The old engine is out and we are now sound insulating the engine compartment.

The boat currently has an ice box but putting in refrigeration is high on the 
list.  Getting ice rapidly becomes a challenge as you head off.  This would 
imply more battery power and an alternator to keep it going.  We are looking at 
a Beta 25 for which you can get a 75 or 120 amp alternator.  Because of limited 
battery space I'm thinking of using AGM batteries which you can suck more amps 
out of.

Has anyone got some words of wisdom and/or experience with this?  Including 
what is the minimum amount of available amp hours you need?  The water is cold 
up here and it usually doesn't get too hot.  It seems with AGM batteries you 
need a fair bit more charging capability.

Although the refrigeration project is a little further off I don't want to but 
too small of an alternator now.

Thanks
Don Jonsson
Victoria, B.C.


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Re: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Don,

First of all, I loved you in Miami Vice. 

I agree with Alan — get the larger alternator, which is what I did when I 
repowered my boat with a Beta 30. 

Since the previous Enterprise (NCC-1701-A) was a C&C 34, I also share Alan’s 
concerns with being able to fit AGM batteries in that compartment under the 
quarter berth. Measure it out first. Also make sure the AGMs have enough Cold 
Cranking Amps (CCAs) to turn the starter motor. Beta should be able to guide 
you on those specs and give you recommendations. A guy named Farron at Beta in 
North Carolina seems to know everything about Beta's and diesels in general: 
far...@betamarinenc.com  

You are going to LOVE the Beta. Everything is easy to service and maintain. And 
that built-in oil change pump is a dream. Knowing the 34, the one area that 
will be a challenge, unless you are a pretty good contortionist, is changing 
that sacrificial anode and checking the O-ring on the aft starboard side of the 
engine every year. 

Oh — and here’s a tip for that oil-change pump. Buy a cheap 1/2” I.D. length of 
hose. It will fit nicely on the pump and its a great way to pump oil into a 
container without any mess. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 




On Oct 14, 2017, at 12:00 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List  
wrote:



On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:50 AM, DON JONSSON via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi

I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the original 
Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake manifold caused by 
serious blow back.  There is also a transmission problem, where it doesn't 
always go into gear.

So the decision has been made to put a new engine in, and as someone mentioned 
over capitalize the boat.  But we sail to the outside of Vancouver Island and 
up north to where engine problems would be a super pain.  (Soon I will post 
information about the engine and extra parts in case anyone is interested.  It 
has an almost brand new exhaust riser on it built by Gartside.)

The old engine is out and we are now sound insulating the engine compartment.

The boat currently has an ice box but putting in refrigeration is high on the 
list.  Getting ice rapidly becomes a challenge as you head off.  This would 
imply more battery power and an alternator to keep it going.  We are looking at 
a Beta 25 for which you can get a 75 or 120 amp alternator.  Because of limited 
battery space I'm thinking of using AGM batteries which you can suck more amps 
out of.

Has anyone got some words of wisdom and/or experience with this?  Including 
what is the minimum amount of available amp hours you need?  The water is cold 
up here and it usually doesn't get too hot.  It seems with AGM batteries you 
need a fair bit more charging capability.

Although the refrigeration project is a little further off I don't want to but 
too small of an alternator now.

Thanks
Don Jonsson
Victoria, B.C.


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Re: Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Get the larger alternator.  Also, remember that AGM batteries are taller
than lead acid batteries.  You'll also need a new charger that can charge
AGM batteries.  Get a charger that has a switch for use with AGM, gel or
lead acid batteries.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:50 AM, DON JONSSON via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the
> original Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake manifold
> caused by serious blow back.  There is also a transmission problem, where
> it doesn't always go into gear.
>
> So the decision has been made to put a new engine in, and as someone
> mentioned over capitalize the boat.  But we sail to the outside of
> Vancouver Island and up north to where engine problems would be a super
> pain.  (Soon I will post information about the engine and extra parts in
> case anyone is interested.  It has an almost brand new exhaust riser on it
> built by Gartside.)
>
> The old engine is out and we are now sound insulating the engine
> compartment.
>
> The boat currently has an ice box but putting in refrigeration is high on
> the list.  Getting ice rapidly becomes a challenge as you head off.  This
> would imply more battery power and an alternator to keep it going.  We are
> looking at a Beta 25 for which you can get a 75 or 120 amp alternator.
> Because of limited battery space I'm thinking of using AGM batteries which
> you can suck more amps out of.
>
> Has anyone got some words of wisdom and/or experience with this?
> Including what is the minimum amount of available amp hours you need?  The
> water is cold up here and it usually doesn't get too hot.  It seems with
> AGM batteries you need a fair bit more charging capability.
>
> Although the refrigeration project is a little further off I don't want to
> but too small of an alternator now.
>
> Thanks
> Don Jonsson
> Victoria, B.C.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Bad engine?

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Thanks. We may call. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus (for sale) Lf38 
Rebecca Leah LF39 
 Original message From: David via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/14/17  05:09  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David  Subject: Re: Stus-List 
Bad engine? 


I just rebuilt my Yanmars top end.   He may call me for specifics.







David F. Risch


(401) 419-4650 (cell)










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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:27 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: svpegasus38

Subject: Stus-List Bad engine?
 


A friend has a Catalina 36 with the Universal 25 engine that overheated, and 
now won't start. 
1. Excessive blowby 
2. Smoke in coolant tank
3. Oil level is 2 inches above full mark.
     Oil just changed just after overheated. 
4. New heat exchanger just replaced. After overheating, coolant was full, now 
empty. 
5. When it did start lots of white smoke from exhaust. 
6. Was in process of changing fuel filters when I noticed the empty coolant 
tank, smoke in coolant tank, and over full oil.



Thinking he needs a new engine, or maybe rebuild this one. 
Any advice from the awesome minds on the list is welcome.



Already offered him Pegasus. Lol.







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Stus-List New Engine, now what size alternator

[DON JONSSON via CnC-List]

Hi

I previously lamented engine problems on my 1982 C&C 34.  I had the original 
Yanmar 3GMD.  The problem was leaking oil from the intake manifold caused by 
serious blow back.  There is also a transmission problem, where it doesn't 
always go into gear. 

So the decision has been made to put a new engine in, and as someone mentioned 
over capitalize the boat.  But we sail to the outside of Vancouver Island and 
up north to where engine problems would be a super pain.  (Soon I will post 
information about the engine and extra parts in case anyone is interested.  It 
has an almost brand new exhaust riser on it built by Gartside.)

The old engine is out and we are now sound insulating the engine compartment.

The boat currently has an ice box but putting in refrigeration is high on the 
list.  Getting ice rapidly becomes a challenge as you head off.  This would 
imply more battery power and an alternator to keep it going.  We are looking at 
a Beta 25 for which you can get a 75 or 120 amp alternator.  Because of limited 
battery space I'm thinking of using AGM batteries which you can suck more amps 
out of.

Has anyone got some words of wisdom and/or experience with this?  Including 
what is the minimum amount of available amp hours you need?  The water is cold 
up here and it usually doesn't get too hot.  It seems with AGM batteries you 
need a fair bit more charging capability.  

Although the refrigeration project is a little further off I don't want to but 
too small of an alternator now.

Thanks
Don Jonsson
Victoria, B.C.


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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Threaded rod, nut, have welder bond them together, then cut a slot in both so 
you can get a screwdriver in there. 

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Oct 14, 2017, at 08:23, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> threaded rod with a nut?
> Gary
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, David via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> Yep...3" is the longest
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Gary Russell via 
>> CnC-List 
>> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:55 PM
>> To: C&C List
>> Cc: Gary Russell
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt
>>  
>> Have you tried McMaster-Carr?
>> 
>> Gary
>> S/V Kaylarah
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>> 
>> ~~~_/)~~
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:43 PM, David via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how but the bolt 
>>> that keeps it all together deep sixed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from Aqua Signal.   
>>> Three emails.  No response.
>>> 
>>> So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems like a holy 
>>> Grail bolt to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, once again, in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1981 40-2
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Dave,

 

I have one left over from when I replaced a broken fixture.  It may still be
on my boat as I couldn't find it here at home.  Give me a chance to look on
my boat and, if necessary, go through my boat stuff again.  If I find it, I
can mail it to you.

 

Ron   

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:44 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

 

So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how but the bolt
that keeps it all together deep sixed.

 

No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from Aqua Signal.
Three emails.  No response.

 

So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems like a holy
Grail bolt to me.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks, once again, in advance.

 

1981 40-2

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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

or non-threaded rod and a die to cut the threads as much as you need.


On 10/14/2017 9:23 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:

threaded rod with a nut?
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Yep...3" is the longest



David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650  (cell)




*From:* CnC-List mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of Gary Russell
via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
*Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 7:55 PM
*To:* C&C List
*Cc:* Gary Russell
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt
Have you tried McMaster-Carr

?


Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:43 PM, David via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how
but the bolt that keeps it all together deep sixed.


No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from
Aqua Signal.   Three emails.  No response.


So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems
like a holy Grail bolt to me.


Any suggestions?


Thanks, */once again/*, in advance.


1981 40-2


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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

threaded rod with a nut?
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Yep...3" is the longest
>
>
>
> David F. Risch
>
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Gary
> Russell via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2017 7:55 PM
> *To:* C&C List
> *Cc:* Gary Russell
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt
>
> Have you tried McMaster-Carr
> ?
>
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C&C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:43 PM, David via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
>> So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how but the
>> bolt that keeps it all together deep sixed.
>>
>>
>> No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from Aqua Signal.
>>   Three emails.  No response.
>>
>>
>> So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems like a holy
>> Grail bolt to me.
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, *once again*, in advance.
>>
>>
>> 1981 40-2
>>
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Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

[David via CnC-List]

Yep...3" is the longest



David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Gary Russell via 
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:55 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: Gary Russell
Subject: Re: Stus-List Aqua Signal Impossible Bolt

Have you tried 
McMaster-Carr?

Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 6:43 PM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

So I have a Series 41 Aqua Signal Bow light.  Dont ask me how but the bolt that 
keeps it all together deep sixed.


No problem, I said as it went in, I can get another one from Aqua Signal.   
Three emails.  No response.


So I have been trying to find a 3 1/4" long # 4 bolt.   Seems like a holy Grail 
bolt to me.


Any suggestions?


Thanks, once again, in advance.


1981 40-2

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Re: Stus-List Bad engine?

[David via CnC-List]

I just rebuilt my Yanmars top end.   He may call me for specifics.


David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)



From: CnC-List  on behalf of svpegasus38 via 
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 7:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svpegasus38
Subject: Stus-List Bad engine?

A friend has a Catalina 36 with the Universal 25 engine that overheated, and 
now won't start.
1. Excessive blowby
2. Smoke in coolant tank
3. Oil level is 2 inches above full mark.
 Oil just changed just after overheated.
4. New heat exchanger just replaced. After overheating, coolant was full, now 
empty.
5. When it did start lots of white smoke from exhaust.
6. Was in process of changing fuel filters when I noticed the empty coolant 
tank, smoke in coolant tank, and over full oil.

Thinking he needs a new engine, or maybe rebuild this one.
Any advice from the awesome minds on the list is welcome.

Already offered him Pegasus. Lol.


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