Re: Stus-List New water storage tanks

2017-11-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Ronco Plastics had a tank that was an almost exact duplicate of the cracked 
Kracor tanks on my 38, at a cost of about $400 per tank. If you know the 
dimensions of your aluminum tanks you may be able to buy an exact (or close) 
size from them.

 

After talking to Dennis C about his installation, I decided to use Plastimo 
bladder tanks ($139 at West for the 26 gallon size, with no shipping cost for 
store pickup). I’ll put the bladders into the old Kracor tanks (after removing 
the top of the old tank) to avoid any chance of chafe as the tanks move in 
response to the motion/heel of the boat. Low cost, simple installation, 
effective, and allows me to plug the old vent fittings under the toe rail of 
the boat – which can be a source of contamination of the water and of leaks. 

 

FWIW, the 35 gallon IMTRA-Nuata bladder tanks (nitrile rubber instead of PVC) 
are about $300 at West Marine (actually less than if you buy them direct from 
the manufacturer), and look to be of more durable construction than the 
Plastimo tanks

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 6:12 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List New water storage tanks

 

Hi guys, 

I've been researching new water storage tanks for my boat. 

 

The current ones are aluminum, leaking and well past their life expectancy.  
Here is what I've come up with. 

 

so, I think these are all I've worked on;

aluminum for about $700ea w/ shipping 70lbs
Pros are weight, direct replacement, not too expensive
Cons are corrosion, taste, poor reaction to chlorine

SS about $800ea w/shipping 150lbs
Pros are direct replacment, food grade, non corrosive, no chlorine 
issue, no real taste issue
Cons are weight

Bladder about $220 ea w/shipping super light
Pros are pretty easy install, food grade PVC, no chlorine or taste 
issues, easily replaceable cost effectively, less than 1/2 the cost of 
next cheapest option
Cons are some space modification to utilize full capacity.

Custom Poly too expensive to consider

Custom Bladder too expensive to consider

Thats about all I can come up with

any comments from you guys?

 

Danny

Plymouth, MA this winter

 

 

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Re: Stus-List How long do zincs last?

2017-11-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Imzadi has 2 Camp zincs on the prop shaft (whacked good, but no TefGel) and 
spends most of her time in the slip not connected to shore power.  I end up 
replacing zincs about every two years; sometimes one of the two is more eroded 
than the other, and the better one will last for another year. I would not 
presume that your performance after 18 months is all that unusual, especially 
if there is little stray current on the docks and you have an isolator.

 

I replace the pencil zinc in the heat exchanger when I change the oil and 
filter, which works out to be about every year with typical boat usage of about 
100 hours per year. Smaller zinc, and I’m mostly in brackish water.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:01 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List How long do zincs last?

 

Recent thread gave replies of 3-8 months.  I dove Touche' yesterday to change 
the zincs and found the prop zincs were only about 20% sacrificed.  Best I 
recall, those zincs have been on the shaft for about 18 months.

 

On the other hand, I seem to go through engine heat exchanger zincs about every 
6 months.  Go figure.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List New water storage tanks

2017-11-03 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 Plastic is what I hit the price for!I'm really liking the idea being being 
able to drink the water on board! 
I would go stainless but I don't like the idea of lugging 150lb tanks up a 
ladder 12 feet and then down the companionway...


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
 Date: 11/3/17  6:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: CnClist 
 Cc: "Dennis C."  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List New water storage tanks 
I'm pretty sold on bladder tanks.  I have a 26 gallon Plastimo for Touche's 
fresh water tank.  Install was easy.  Yanking it out to clean it is a 10 minute 
job.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
On Nov 3, 2017 5:13 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List"  
wrote:
Hi guys, I've been researching new water storage tanks for my boat. 
The current ones are aluminum, leaking and well past their life expectancy.  
Here is what I've come up with. 
so, I think these are all I've worked on;

aluminum for about $700ea w/ shipping 70lbs
Pros are weight, direct replacement, not too expensive
Cons are corrosion, taste, poor reaction to chlorine

SS about $800ea w/shipping 150lbs
Pros are direct replacment, food grade, non corrosive, no chlorine 
issue, no real taste issue
Cons are weight

Bladder about $220 ea w/shipping super light
Pros are pretty easy install, food grade PVC, no chlorine or taste 
issues, easily replaceable cost effectively, less than 1/2 the cost of 
next cheapest option
Cons are some space modification to utilize full capacity.

Custom Poly too expensive to consider

Custom Bladder too expensive to consider

Thats about all I can come up with

any comments from you guys?
DannyPlymouth, MA this winter

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Re: Stus-List New water storage tanks

2017-11-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
I'm pretty sold on bladder tanks.  I have a 26 gallon Plastimo for Touche's
fresh water tank.  Install was easy.  Yanking it out to clean it is a 10
minute job.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Nov 3, 2017 5:13 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi guys,
> I've been researching new water storage tanks for my boat.
>
> The current ones are aluminum, leaking and well past their life
> expectancy.  Here is what I've come up with.
>
> so, I think these are all I've worked on;
>
> aluminum for about $700ea w/ shipping 70lbs
> Pros are weight, direct replacement, not too expensive
> Cons are corrosion, taste, poor reaction to chlorine
>
> SS about $800ea w/shipping 150lbs
> Pros are direct replacment, food grade, non corrosive, no chlorine
> issue, no real taste issue
> Cons are weight
>
> Bladder about $220 ea w/shipping super light
> Pros are pretty easy install, food grade PVC, no chlorine or taste
> issues, easily replaceable cost effectively, less than 1/2 the cost of
> next cheapest option
> Cons are some space modification to utilize full capacity.
>
> Custom Poly too expensive to consider
>
> Custom Bladder too expensive to consider
>
> Thats about all I can come up with
>
> any comments from you guys?
>
> Danny
> Plymouth, MA this winter
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Re: Stus-List New water storage tanks

2017-11-03 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List 
Bladder works great and you can take it put when you don’t want I‎t or to clean 
I‎t

Rid

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys, 
> I've been researching new water storage tanks for my boat. 
> 
> The current ones are aluminum, leaking and well past their life expectancy.  
> Here is what I've come up with. 
> 
> so, I think these are all I've worked on;
> 
> aluminum for about $700ea w/ shipping 70lbs
> Pros are weight, direct replacement, not too expensive
> Cons are corrosion, taste, poor reaction to chlorine
> 
> SS about $800ea w/shipping 150lbs
> Pros are direct replacment, food grade, non corrosive, no chlorine 
> issue, no real taste issue
> Cons are weight
> 
> Bladder about $220 ea w/shipping super light
> Pros are pretty easy install, food grade PVC, no chlorine or taste 
> issues, easily replaceable cost effectively, less than 1/2 the cost of 
> next cheapest option
> Cons are some space modification to utilize full capacity.
> 
> Custom Poly too expensive to consider
> 
> Custom Bladder too expensive to consider
> 
> Thats about all I can come up with
> 
> any comments from you guys?
> 
> Danny
> Plymouth, MA this winter
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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Re: Stus-List C 110 and 99

2017-11-03 Thread Ted Drossos via CnC-List 

Stu, Would you be able to add the links to the C 110 and C 99 owners groups 
on Facebook to the "C Groups" section of the cncphotoalbum site? I just 
noticed that the links to the existing C 99 North American Class Association 
and the Viking 28 Association on the cncphotoalbum aren't  working. I believe 
those sites are no longer active.


Ted Drossos
C 110 Lady in Red
Long Island, NY
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Stus-List New water storage tanks

2017-11-03 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Hi guys, I've been researching new water storage tanks for my boat. 
The current ones are aluminum, leaking and well past their life expectancy.  
Here is what I've come up with. 
so, I think these are all I've worked on;

aluminum for about $700ea w/ shipping 70lbs
Pros are weight, direct replacement, not too expensive
Cons are corrosion, taste, poor reaction to chlorine

SS about $800ea w/shipping 150lbs
Pros are direct replacment, food grade, non corrosive, no chlorine 
issue, no real taste issue
Cons are weight

Bladder about $220 ea w/shipping super light
Pros are pretty easy install, food grade PVC, no chlorine or taste 
issues, easily replaceable cost effectively, less than 1/2 the cost of 
next cheapest option
Cons are some space modification to utilize full capacity.

Custom Poly too expensive to consider

Custom Bladder too expensive to consider

Thats about all I can come up with

any comments from you guys?
DannyPlymouth, MA this winter

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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

2017-11-03 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
ROFLMAO!  

That's a classic... 

Thanks for sharing! 
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
 Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah
   
That’s hilarious!  Made my Friday.
— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Nov 3, 2017, at 2:36 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  
wrote:
Great deal on a 50 ish footer: 
https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/50-foot-sailboat/6370727567.html

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Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

2017-11-03 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
Seabags will also give you a shipping label for free shipping from FedEx.

From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 9:02 AM
To: Tim Sippel via CnC-List 
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

well sea bags will actually make you a bag from your sail, if it has any emblem 
or insignia on it, for the donation.  I can drop the sails off at my local loft 
and sea bags comes and collects them every once in a while.




On 11/3/2017 8:51 AM, Tim Sippel via CnC-List wrote:

  Offer them on kijiji or craiglist…   hopefully they can be repurposed for 
bags or .. U.V. strips.

   

   

  Tim 

  Matico 33MKII

   

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
bushmark4--- via CnC-List
  Sent: November 2, 2017 1:02 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: bushma...@aol.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

   

  I need some mental counseling: I have a 1985 37; I have replaced my Main and 
150 with new sails; they work well and the old sail have been sitting in my 
garage for the past year: I can send them to Bacon's for a few pennies on the 
dollar, and I pay shipping costs; or my other option is to send them to Seabags 
or one of the other outfits that cut them up and make stuff from the materials; 
I really don't know which way to go on this; I have a mental block about 
cutting up the sails, but I really don't have any use for them myself; if 
anyone on the list wants them I would gladly give them to that person: any 
advice or help for me ? Thanks   

   

  Richard

  s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River,Mile 596.5;
  Richard N. Bush 
  2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
  Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
  502-584-7255


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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

2017-11-03 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
That’s hilarious!  Made my Friday.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Nov 3, 2017, at 2:36 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great deal on a 50 ish footer: 
> https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/50-foot-sailboat/6370727567.html 
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Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

2017-11-03 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
well sea bags will actually make you a bag from your sail, if it has any 
emblem or insignia on it, for the donation.  I can drop the sails off at 
my local loft and sea bags comes and collects them every once in a while.



On 11/3/2017 8:51 AM, Tim Sippel via CnC-List wrote:


Offer them on kijiji or craiglist…   hopefully they can be repurposed 
for bags or .. U.V. strips.


*Tim *

*Matico 33MKII*

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*bushmark4--- via CnC-List

*Sent:* November 2, 2017 1:02 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* bushma...@aol.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

I need some mental counseling: I have a 1985 37; I have replaced my 
Main and 150 with new sails; they work well and the old sail have been 
sitting in my garage for the past year: I can send them to Bacon's for 
a few pennies on the dollar, and I pay shipping costs; or my other 
option is to send them to Seabags or one of the other outfits that cut 
them up and make stuff from the materials; I really don't know which 
way to go on this; I have a mental block about cutting up the sails, 
but I really don't have any use for them myself; if anyone on the list 
wants them I would gladly give them to that person: any advice or help 
for me ? Thanks


Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River,Mile 596.5;
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


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Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

2017-11-03 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List 
Offer them on kijiji or craiglist…   hopefully they can be repurposed for bags 
or .. U.V. strips.


Tim
Matico 33MKII


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Sent: November 2, 2017 1:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: bushma...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C Old Sails

I need some mental counseling: I have a 1985 37; I have replaced my Main and 
150 with new sails; they work well and the old sail have been sitting in my 
garage for the past year: I can send them to Bacon's for a few pennies on the 
dollar, and I pay shipping costs; or my other option is to send them to Seabags 
or one of the other outfits that cut them up and make stuff from the materials; 
I really don't know which way to go on this; I have a mental block about 
cutting up the sails, but I really don't have any use for them myself; if 
anyone on the list wants them I would gladly give them to that person: any 
advice or help for me ? Thanks

Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River,Mile 596.5;
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255

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Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah

2017-11-03 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Great deal on a 50 ish footer:
https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/50-foot-sailboat/6370727567.html

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017, 10:06 PM Leslie Paal via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> correct, but the actual boat is 45 feet.  Someone wanted to cheat on
> mooring fees and taxes
>
>
> 
> On Tue, 10/31/17, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Lost at sea...um , yeah
>  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>  Cc: "Bill Bina - gmail" 
>  Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 6:45 AM
>
>
>  According to the
>  boat's
>documentation it is a 37 footer, not a 50 footer.
>  :-)
>
>
>  Bill
>  Bina
>
>
>
>
>  On 10/31/2017 9:37 AM,
>  Dennis C. via
>CnC-List wrote:
>
>
>
>
>  At one point they were 2 miles off Wake Island
>  and in
>contact with the island but couldn't sail
>  around to the harbor
>entrance.
>
>
>
>Dennis C.
>
>
>
>
>  On Oct 31,
>  2017 8:12 AM, "Chuck
>Gilchrest via CnC-List" 
>wrote:
>
>Today’s
>  reveal was that the women had an EPIRB that
>  they failed
>  to use.
>
>  One of the sailors Jennifer “Fer” Appel,
>  had an earlier
>  career as an Amateur Motorcycle Roadracer.
>  In her
>  search for sponsorship she routinely
>  embellished her
>  accomplishments according to several of my
>  friends who
>  were involved in the sport.
>
>  Perhaps a vivid imagination can be fueled by
>  5 months at
>  sea, but the more I learn of their
>  “ordeal”, the more
>  skeptical I become.
>
>  And to top it off, she’s claiming the
>  rescue ship caused
>  irreparable damage to her vessel by
>  attempting to tow
>  it.  She is actually blaming their
>  rescuers!
>
>  Amazing!
>
>  Chuck Gilchrest
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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