Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Brien,

 

The keel stub extends roughly 4-6” from the hull down at the aft end.  I can’t 
tell from the picture if you damage is to the glass or the lead portion of the 
keel.  Either way, the suggested methods of sealing it with epoxy will work.  
Some glass and fairing will make the repair blend into the keel better too.  I 
have pictures of my 35-3 without the keel attached, if you are interested.

 

Jake

 

Jake Brodersen

C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”

Hampton VA



 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Brien Sadler 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:57
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Brien Sadler 
Subject: Stus-List Split in keel.

 

I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo 
provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has 
exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence of 
any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile at all. 
Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on their boat. 
This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a super expensive 
keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject with epoxy, cover with 
glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly 
appreciated.

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtUnFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV

 

Brien Sadler

1987 C&C 35-3

Norwich, CT

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Re: Stus-List Solar vent batteries

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Solar Fans are great. Better than opening ports cause the induce air changes 
when there is no wind. I installed four in my 36 footer in 2007.

FYI, I recently replaced batteries in my Nicro solar fans and one actually 
became quieter. You can't tell it's running. The other, no work at all. Just 
sayin. I need to take time to remove the working battery and put it the other 
fan to prove the fan may be shot.

I replaced my ICP solar fans that stopped working, That comoany went out of 
business. I ordered Marinco Solar Fans and regret it. They are so obnoxiously 
tall, they will catch sheets and I have to fabricate new rings of PVC Foamboard 
to defend that or convert to Nicro units. I'm still working on options.


> On November 28, 2017 at 8:18 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm using Energizer NiMH, get 3-4 years. Winters here are brutal for lack 
> of sunlight.
> 
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> 
> On 27 November 2017 at 18:39, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > If the OEM was NiMH then I think you need to stay with 
> that since it is what the charge circuit is designed for.  As for best brand? 
> - I have no idea.  I'd probably settle for Amazon best reviews and lowest 
> price.
> > 
> > Josh Muckley
> > S/V Sea Hawk
> > 1989 C&C 37+
> > Solomons, MD 
> > 
> > On Nov 27, 2017 7:04 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I need to replace the C cell battery in 
> > Touche's solar vent.  Is there a brand that seems to outperform others?  
> > Tenergy, Nuon, others?  I think the old one was a Nuon brand.  It lasted 3 
> > years.
> > > 
> > > Is NiMH the best option?
> > > 
> > > Dennis C.
> > > Touche' 35-1 #83
> > > Mandeville, LA
> > > 
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Re: Stus-List Solar vent batteries

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

I'm using Energizer NiMH, get 3-4 years. Winters here are brutal for lack
of sunlight.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 27 November 2017 at 18:39, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If the OEM was NiMH then I think you need to stay with that since it is
> what the charge circuit is designed for.  As for best brand? - I have no
> idea.  I'd probably settle for Amazon best reviews and lowest price.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Nov 27, 2017 7:04 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
>> I need to replace the C cell battery in Touche's solar vent.  Is there a
>> brand that seems to outperform others?  Tenergy, Nuon, others?  I think the
>> old one was a Nuon brand.  It lasted 3 years.
>>
>> Is NiMH the best option?
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37R

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck. 

I feel really honored to have one of the “R’s”.  It’s taken me a year to learn 
how to sail it and I am still noticing it but what absolute fun it h as been.  

Do you know if there is any similar graphic resource as you found for the 37-40 
for the 34-36?


James Bibb
SV Darwin’s Folly
C&C 34-36 R
Juneau, Alaska

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Dave,
> 
> Found this list of 37/40 boats.  Great resource, but I prefer the smaller 
> sister, Rob Ball's last and most advanced design; the 34/36 model.  He did 
> the 37/40 in '88 and the 51' and 34/36 in '89.
> 
> 
> 
> http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html
> 
> 
> 
> FYI, there were only 94 hulls made of the 34/36 model, 9 R's and the rest 
> cruising plus and XL models with at least three different rig options.  There 
> are many boats ready for sale that aren't listed, boats waiting for a new 
> owner.  The key questions are "Where are you located, where will you sail, 
> how many people can you get to crew.  A 37/40 needs a large crew, while I can 
> singlehand my 34/36.  Just sayin.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> On November 27, 2017 at 1:18 PM Pamela & David via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Looking at a boat, (partially dismantle) but I can not figure where the fuel 
>> tank & fresh water tank are located.  
>> Some of the interior is missing.  Any help is appreciated ( if you have an 
>> interior drawing/kink) would be great
>> 
>> David
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37R

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hey Dave,

Found this list of 37/40 boats.  Great resource, but I prefer the smaller 
sister, Rob Ball's last and most advanced design; the 34/36 model.  He did the 
37/40 in '88 and the 51' and 34/36 in '89.


http://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html


FYI, there were only 94 hulls made of the 34/36 model, 9 R's and the rest 
cruising plus and XL models with at least three different rig options.  There 
are many boats ready for sale that aren't listed, boats waiting for a new 
owner.  The key questions are "Where are you located, where will you sail, how 
many people can you get to crew.  A 37/40 needs a large crew, while I can 
singlehand my 34/36.  Just sayin.



Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

> On November 27, 2017 at 1:18 PM Pamela & David via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Looking at a boat, (partially dismantle) but I can not figure where the 
> fuel tank & fresh water tank are located.  
> Some of the interior is missing.  Any help is appreciated ( if you have 
> an interior drawing/kink) would be great
> 
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Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Looked at your photo and it looks like the split is fairing material, not the 
real keel.  I always follow Dennis' advice, BTW.  He's tops.  I suggest you 
sand/grind fairing down to solid stuff and fill with a waterproof material.  
Fair and repaint.


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

> On November 28, 2017 at 11:56 AM Brien Sadler via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo 
> provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has 
> exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence of 
> any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile at 
> all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on their 
> boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a super 
> expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject with epoxy, 
> cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or advice would 
> be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtUnFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV
> 
> Brien Sadler
> 1987 C&C 35-3
> Norwich, CT
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Re: Stus-List C&C 30

[Alejandro De La Pena via CnC-List]

30ft #1 hull build in 1971

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cleverboy via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The first Camaro?. 6 figures
> The first Dodge Challenger?6 figures, maybe 7
> The first C&C30?,... sadly, not so much
> 
> Charles Ferrari
> Bronx, NY
> C&C30
> Destrier
> 
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of rick bushie via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:38:56 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rick bushie
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30
>  
> The I.D. plate on Anchovy reads as follows:
> 
> 30   1   71
> 
> No zeros, no month.
> 
> Rick Bushie
> Anchovy, 30-1 hull 1
> Tolchester, MD
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Re: Stus-List C&C 30

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

The first Camaro?. 6 figures

The first Dodge Challenger?6 figures, maybe 7

The first C&C30?,... sadly, not so much


Charles Ferrari

Bronx, NY

C&C30

Destrier



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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30

The I.D. plate on Anchovy reads as follows:

30   1   71

No zeros, no month.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 30-1 hull 1
Tolchester, MD

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Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Mike Casey via CnC-List]

Hi there, when I was looking at a boat in Maine I noticed this on a boat
and the broker said it was because an anchor chain wrapped itself around
it. As long as it isn't structural, the expxy advise seems the bst.

Mike Casey
C&C 30 MKI
Halifax, NS

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo
> provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has
> exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence
> of any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile
> at all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on
> their boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a
> super expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject
> with epoxy, cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or
> advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtU
> nFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV
>
> Brien Sadler
> 1987 C&C 35-3
> Norwich, CT
>
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Stus-List 37R Salvage

[robert via CnC-List]

Hal's son, Steve, kept the boat for several years after his father 
passed.he sold it to someone in St. Margaret's Bay, where it met its 
final fate.


Steve bought a 35 footer.not sure but it might be an OD 35.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-11-28 3:34 PM, Ken Heaton wrote:
Hal Davies was also one of the founders of the Route Halifax 
Saint-Pierre Ocean Race.


A great photo of Third Wave sailing off into the sunset and a bit 
about Hal here:


https://www.routespm.com/en/route-halifax-saint-pierre/a-long-history-of-ocean-racing/

Ken H.

On 28 November 2017 at 15:19, robert via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


The 37R, Third Wave, was sold last year and the new owner ran it
hard aground, I believe motoring, in his home waters of St.
Margaret's Bay.  My understanding was that the hull ribs, etc.
were severely damaged to the point where repair costs greatly out
wayed the value of the boat.  So she was written off.

The newer sails listed (the 2000's models) are in very good to
excellent condition.

As for the color (blue with gold waves), the boat was originally
an 'off white'..nice looking boat thenit was originally
owned by an American who kept it here in Nova Scotia (Chester
mostly).then he sold it to Capt. Hal Davies, a retired CDN
naval officer, who with his son, Steve, also extensively raced the
boat. For some strange reason, Capt. Davies had the boat painted
this 'blue' when I didn't think it needed a paint job in the first
instance.

The boat was raced long and hard and has the 'silverware' to prove
it.  May it RIP.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

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Re: Stus-List 37R Salvage

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Hal Davies was also one of the founders of the Route Halifax
Saint-Pierre Ocean Race.

A great photo of Third Wave sailing off into the sunset and a bit about Hal
here:

https://www.routespm.com/en/route-halifax-saint-pierre/a-long-history-of-ocean-racing/

Ken H.

On 28 November 2017 at 15:19, robert via CnC-List 
wrote:

> The 37R, Third Wave, was sold last year and the new owner ran it hard
> aground, I believe motoring, in his home waters of St. Margaret's Bay.  My
> understanding was that the hull ribs, etc. were severely damaged to the
> point where repair costs greatly out wayed the value of the boat.  So she
> was written off.
>
> The newer sails listed (the 2000's models) are in very good to excellent
> condition.
>
> As for the color (blue with gold waves), the boat was originally an 'off
> white'..nice looking boat thenit was originally owned by an
> American who kept it here in Nova Scotia (Chester mostly).then he sold
> it to Capt. Hal Davies, a retired CDN naval officer, who with his son,
> Steve, also extensively raced the boat. For some strange reason, Capt.
> Davies had the boat painted this 'blue' when I didn't think it needed a
> paint job in the first instance.
>
> The boat was raced long and hard and has the 'silverware' to prove it.
> May it RIP.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List 37R Salvage

[robert via CnC-List]

The 37R, Third Wave, was sold last year and the new owner ran it hard 
aground, I believe motoring, in his home waters of St. Margaret's Bay.  
My understanding was that the hull ribs, etc. were severely damaged to 
the point where repair costs greatly out wayed the value of the boat.  
So she was written off.


The newer sails listed (the 2000's models) are in very good to excellent 
condition.


As for the color (blue with gold waves), the boat was originally an 'off 
white'..nice looking boat thenit was originally owned by an 
American who kept it here in Nova Scotia (Chester mostly).then he 
sold it to Capt. Hal Davies, a retired CDN naval officer, who with his 
son, Steve, also extensively raced the boat. For some strange reason, 
Capt. Davies had the boat painted this 'blue' when I didn't think it 
needed a paint job in the first instance.


The boat was raced long and hard and has the 'silverware' to prove it.  
May it RIP.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Ugly blue hull color? 

Just sayin’….. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 



> On Nov 28, 2017, at 1:55 PM, James Bibb via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know why this boat was busted up?  
> 
> James Bibb
> 
> C&C 34-36R
> SV Darwin’s Folly
> Juneau, Alaska
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> 
>> Very sad.
>> 
>> I don't see anything on the Shining Waters website.
>> 
>> The following is from a Yachtworld listing I had saved from when she was up 
>> for sale back in 2012 (after her long term owner passed away):
>> 
>> Sails
>> 
>> North 3DL Mainsail (2007).
>> North 3DL Mainsail (2001).
>> North Dacron Delivery Mainsail (full batten).
>> North Kevlar Mainsail with IMS battens (1994). 
>> UK/Victory #1 genoa (2004). 
>> North #1 genoa (2007). 
>> North #1 Kevlar Mylar light genoa (1988). 
>> UK/Victory #2 genoa (2005). 
>> UK/Victory #3 (2009). 
>> North Kevlar #4. 
>> North Asymetrical Spinnaker (2006). 
>> UK/Victory 1.5 oz Symetrical (2007).
>> UK/Victory .75 oz. Symetrical (2006).
>> North .6 Polyester Spinnaker (1994). 
>> 
>> On 28 November 2017 at 14:36, David via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> So sad...
>> 
>> Details on the sail specs would be nice.   Anything?
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> (401) 419-4650  (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List > > on behalf of Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:34 PM
>> To: cnc-list
>> Cc: Ken Heaton
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>>  
>> The 37R being scrapped appears to be "Third Wave".
>> 
>> This link takes you to some photos of her from happier times (and a view of 
>> the winches and some of the other gear she had).
>> 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6z0Q6p2WSXn7GqC2 
>> 
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 November 2017 at 14:21, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in 
>> properly.  Perhaps not on others.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included 
>> the picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator 
>> bucket.  That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against 
>> Third Wave on the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> USED PARTS SALE
>> 
>> Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Boat Recycling
>> 
>> 
>> Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT 
>> RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no 
>> longer seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY 
>> SALE of all the bits and pieces from these boats. Saturday December 9th 
>> between 10 and 2 at Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon. All 
>> items will be sold "as is where is" condition, with no returns or warranty 
>> available. There will be NO Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st serve. This 
>> will also be a CASH or Debit Only Event. All items must be removed 
>> immediately unless specialized transportation is required (ie. a mast). The 
>> boats being parted out are C&C37R, Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion 30. There 
>> will be other surplus stock items available too.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is a short list of items available.
>> 
>> 1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
>> 
>> 2. Anchors ad Rode
>> 
>> 3. Sails
>> 
>> 4. Heads
>> 
>> 5. Water / Macerator Pumps
>> 
>> 6. Winches and accessories
>> 
>> 7. Sheets and Lines
>> 
>> 8. Cushions
>> 
>> 9. Electrical Components
>> 
>> 10. Steering Equipment
>> 
>> 11. Blocks and Clutches
>> 
>> 12. Safety Equipment
>> 
>> 13. Trailer Parts
>> 
>> 14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
>> 
>> 15. Masts and Rigging
>> 
>> 16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
>> 
>> 17. Teak Wood Pieces
>> 
>> 18. Propellers
>> 
>> 19. Tank
>> 
>> 20. Tender
>> 
>> 21. Misc Items
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Dan
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did 
>> you see the ad?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-L

Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I've also heard of using wire brushes to apply the epoxy to lead.  Same
concept as the scotch bite pad.

Josh



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017, 1:50 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I did some cosmetic repair/fairing on the trailing edge of Touche's keel
> years ago.  Your situation is similar.
>
> I ground off deteriorated material down to exposed lead then quickly
> applied epoxy with a ScotchBrite pad.  Why?  The lead will oxidize
> quickly.  Applying the epoxy with a rough pad by rubbing hard will remove
> any oxidation while covering the lead with the epoxy to prevent further
> oxidation.
>
> Once I had the lead covered, I epoxied some glass to one side of the
> trailing edge and let it cure.  This formed a backstop for working the
> other side.  I applied epoxy thickened with colloidal silica to the other
> side and faired it with a plastic spreader.  Once it all cured, I sanded
> and faired with 3M Premium Filler.  I used an 18 inch stiff long board
> sander to square the trailing edge to 1/4 inch width.  Bottom paint
> followed.
>
> Not a technically challenging job.  Just a bit of planning and patience.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo
>> provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has
>> exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence
>> of any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile
>> at all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on
>> their boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a
>> super expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject
>> with epoxy, cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or
>> advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtUnFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV
>>
>> Brien Sadler
>> 1987 C&C 35-3
>> Norwich, CT
>>
>> ___
>>
>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
>> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>
>>
>>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[James Bibb via CnC-List]

Does anybody know why this boat was busted up?  

James Bibb

C&C 34-36R
SV Darwin’s Folly
Juneau, Alaska

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Very sad.
> 
> I don't see anything on the Shining Waters website.
> 
> The following is from a Yachtworld listing I had saved from when she was up 
> for sale back in 2012 (after her long term owner passed away):
> 
> Sails
> 
> North 3DL Mainsail (2007).
> North 3DL Mainsail (2001).
> North Dacron Delivery Mainsail (full batten).
> North Kevlar Mainsail with IMS battens (1994). 
> UK/Victory #1 genoa (2004). 
> North #1 genoa (2007). 
> North #1 Kevlar Mylar light genoa (1988). 
> UK/Victory #2 genoa (2005). 
> UK/Victory #3 (2009). 
> North Kevlar #4. 
> North Asymetrical Spinnaker (2006). 
> UK/Victory 1.5 oz Symetrical (2007).
> UK/Victory .75 oz. Symetrical (2006).
> North .6 Polyester Spinnaker (1994). 
> 
> On 28 November 2017 at 14:36, David via CnC-List  > wrote:
> So sad...
> 
> Details on the sail specs would be nice.   Anything?
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650  (cell)
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List  > on behalf of Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:34 PM
> To: cnc-list
> Cc: Ken Heaton
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>  
> The 37R being scrapped appears to be "Third Wave".
> 
> This link takes you to some photos of her from happier times (and a view of 
> the winches and some of the other gear she had).
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6z0Q6p2WSXn7GqC2 
> 
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> 
> On 28 November 2017 at 14:21, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  > wrote:
> It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in 
> properly.  Perhaps not on others.
> 
>  
> 
> Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included the 
> picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator bucket.  
> That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against Third Wave on 
> the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> USED PARTS SALE
> 
> Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400
> 
>  
> 
> Boat Recycling
> 
> 
> Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT 
> RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no 
> longer seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY 
> SALE of all the bits and pieces from these boats. Saturday December 9th 
> between 10 and 2 at Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon. All 
> items will be sold "as is where is" condition, with no returns or warranty 
> available. There will be NO Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st serve. This 
> will also be a CASH or Debit Only Event. All items must be removed 
> immediately unless specialized transportation is required (ie. a mast). The 
> boats being parted out are C&C37R, Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion 30. There 
> will be other surplus stock items available too.
> 
>  
> 
> Here is a short list of items available.
> 
> 1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
> 
> 2. Anchors ad Rode
> 
> 3. Sails
> 
> 4. Heads
> 
> 5. Water / Macerator Pumps
> 
> 6. Winches and accessories
> 
> 7. Sheets and Lines
> 
> 8. Cushions
> 
> 9. Electrical Components
> 
> 10. Steering Equipment
> 
> 11. Blocks and Clutches
> 
> 12. Safety Equipment
> 
> 13. Trailer Parts
> 
> 14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
> 
> 15. Masts and Rigging
> 
> 16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
> 
> 17. Teak Wood Pieces
> 
> 18. Propellers
> 
> 19. Tank
> 
> 20. Tender
> 
> 21. Misc Items
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Dan
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
> 
>  
> 
> I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did 
> you see the ad?
> 
>  
> 
> Dan
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self 
> tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them 
> shipped from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is 
> 504-452-1997  and email isbrandongaspard1...@yahoo.com 
>  if you'd like to contact me before 
> going to the salvage.  I'm looking for something in the Barient 22 or 23 
> size, equivalent to 

Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I did some cosmetic repair/fairing on the trailing edge of Touche's keel
years ago.  Your situation is similar.

I ground off deteriorated material down to exposed lead then quickly
applied epoxy with a ScotchBrite pad.  Why?  The lead will oxidize
quickly.  Applying the epoxy with a rough pad by rubbing hard will remove
any oxidation while covering the lead with the epoxy to prevent further
oxidation.

Once I had the lead covered, I epoxied some glass to one side of the
trailing edge and let it cure.  This formed a backstop for working the
other side.  I applied epoxy thickened with colloidal silica to the other
side and faired it with a plastic spreader.  Once it all cured, I sanded
and faired with 3M Premium Filler.  I used an 18 inch stiff long board
sander to square the trailing edge to 1/4 inch width.  Bottom paint
followed.

Not a technically challenging job.  Just a bit of planning and patience.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo
> provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has
> exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence
> of any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile
> at all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on
> their boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a
> super expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject
> with epoxy, cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or
> advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtU
> nFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV
>
> Brien Sadler
> 1987 C&C 35-3
> Norwich, CT
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Split in keel.

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Your plan sounds good to me.  You might consider a g-flex type of epoxy.
You could possibly even forgo the fiberglass tape and see how it goes after
a single season.  The biggest question in my mind is weather or not water
is entering the boat through the crack.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Nov 28, 2017 11:57 AM, "Brien Sadler via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo
> provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has
> exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence
> of any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile
> at all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on
> their boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a
> super expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject
> with epoxy, cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or
> advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtU
> nFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV
>
> Brien Sadler
> 1987 C&C 35-3
> Norwich, CT
>
> ___
>
> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  Each
> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>
>
>
___

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every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list - use PayPal 
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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Very sad.

I don't see anything on the Shining Waters website.

The following is from a Yachtworld listing I had saved from when she was up
for sale back in 2012 (after her long term owner passed away):

*Sails*

   - North 3DL Mainsail (2007).
   - North 3DL Mainsail (2001).
   - North Dacron Delivery Mainsail (full batten).
   - North Kevlar Mainsail with IMS battens (1994).
   - UK/Victory #1 genoa (2004).
   - North #1 genoa (2007).
   - North #1 Kevlar Mylar light genoa (1988).
   - UK/Victory #2 genoa (2005).
   - UK/Victory #3 (2009).
   - North Kevlar #4.
   - North Asymetrical Spinnaker (2006).
   - UK/Victory 1.5 oz Symetrical (2007).
   - UK/Victory .75 oz. Symetrical (2006).
   - North .6 Polyester Spinnaker (1994).


On 28 November 2017 at 14:36, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> So sad...
>
>
> Details on the sail specs would be nice.   Anything?
>
>
> David F. Risch
>
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Ken Heaton
> via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:34 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Ken Heaton
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>
> The 37R being scrapped appears to be "Third Wave".
>
> This link takes you to some photos of her from happier times (and a view
> of the winches and some of the other gear she had).
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6z0Q6p2WSXn7GqC2
> 
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On 28 November 2017 at 14:21, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in
> properly.  Perhaps not on others.
>
>
>
> Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included
> the picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator
> bucket.  That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against
> Third Wave on the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *USED PARTS SALE*
>
> *Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400*
>
>
>
> *Boat Recycling*
>
>
> Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT
> RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no
> longer seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY
> SALE of all the bits and pieces from these boats. *Saturday December 9th
> between 10 and 2* at Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon.
> All items will be sold "as is where is" condition, with no returns or
> warranty available. There will be NO Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st
> serve. This will also be a CASH or Debit Only Event. All items must be
> removed immediately unless specialized transportation is required (ie. a
> mast). The boats being parted out are C&C37R, Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion
> 30. There will be other surplus stock items available too.
>
>
>
> Here is a short list of items available.
>
> 1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
>
> 2. Anchors ad Rode
>
> 3. Sails
>
> 4. Heads
>
> 5. Water / Macerator Pumps
>
> 6. Winches and accessories
>
> 7. Sheets and Lines
>
> 8. Cushions
>
> 9. Electrical Components
>
> 10. Steering Equipment
>
> 11. Blocks and Clutches
>
> 12. Safety Equipment
>
> 13. Trailer Parts
>
> 14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
>
> 15. Masts and Rigging
>
> 16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
>
> 17. Teak Wood Pieces
>
> 18. Propellers
>
> 19. Tank
>
> 20. Tender
>
> 21. Misc Items
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>
>
>
> I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did
> you see the ad?
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self
> tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them
> shipped from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is
> 504-452-1997 <(504)%20452-1997> and email is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com
> if you'd like to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for
> something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to
> Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price before
> agreeing to purchase.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST
>
>
>
> Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale
>
>
>
> [Shining Waters Marine] jsp?f=0010jwT0v8OK0SKq_T2Ykuyu04OuBE27Lc7pKF0c-Nf_M0cKVQsxSs
> WDedo9cfaVrhs9BIgLKQGOLENpEK0olSpW8mcqGT4Oszsdz8u2rTnRzKC-
> fFsghm7

Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[David via CnC-List]

So sad...


Details on the sail specs would be nice.   Anything?


David F. Risch

(401) 419-4650 (cell)



From: CnC-List  on behalf of Ken Heaton via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:34 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

The 37R being scrapped appears to be "Third Wave".

This link takes you to some photos of her from happier times (and a view of the 
winches and some of the other gear she had).

https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6z0Q6p2WSXn7GqC2

Ken H.


On 28 November 2017 at 14:21, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in properly.  
Perhaps not on others.



Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included the 
picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator bucket.  
That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against Third Wave on 
the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.



Mike



USED PARTS SALE

Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400



Boat Recycling

Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT 
RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no longer 
seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY SALE of all 
the bits and pieces from these boats. Saturday December 9th between 10 and 2 at 
Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon. All items will be sold "as 
is where is" condition, with no returns or warranty available. There will be NO 
Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st serve. This will also be a CASH or Debit 
Only Event. All items must be removed immediately unless specialized 
transportation is required (ie. a mast). The boats being parted out are C&C37R, 
Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion 30. There will be other surplus stock items 
available too.



Here is a short list of items available.

1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package

2. Anchors ad Rode

3. Sails

4. Heads

5. Water / Macerator Pumps

6. Winches and accessories

7. Sheets and Lines

8. Cushions

9. Electrical Components

10. Steering Equipment

11. Blocks and Clutches

12. Safety Equipment

13. Trailer Parts

14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)

15. Masts and Rigging

16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts

17. Teak Wood Pieces

18. Propellers

19. Tank

20. Tender

21. Misc Items







From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Dan via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage



I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did you 
see the ad?



Dan



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self tailing 
winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them shipped from 
your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is 
504-452-1997 and email is 
brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com if you'd like 
to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for something in the 
Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would 
need to know the price before agreeing to purchase.

Thanks in advance!



Brandon



COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST



Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale



[Shining Waters 
Marine]>



USED PARTS SALE

Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400



___

Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions.  

Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

The 37R being scrapped appears to be "Third Wave".

This link takes you to some photos of her from happier times (and a view of
the winches and some of the other gear she had).

https://photos.app.goo.gl/g6z0Q6p2WSXn7GqC2

Ken H.


On 28 November 2017 at 14:21, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  wrote:

> It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in
> properly.  Perhaps not on others.
>
>
>
> Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included
> the picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator
> bucket.  That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against
> Third Wave on the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *USED PARTS SALE*
>
> *Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400*
>
>
>
> *Boat Recycling*
>
>
> Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT
> RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no
> longer seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY
> SALE of all the bits and pieces from these boats. *Saturday December 9th
> between 10 and 2* at Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon.
> All items will be sold "as is where is" condition, with no returns or
> warranty available. There will be NO Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st
> serve. This will also be a CASH or Debit Only Event. All items must be
> removed immediately unless specialized transportation is required (ie. a
> mast). The boats being parted out are C&C37R, Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion
> 30. There will be other surplus stock items available too.
>
>
>
> Here is a short list of items available.
>
> 1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
>
> 2. Anchors ad Rode
>
> 3. Sails
>
> 4. Heads
>
> 5. Water / Macerator Pumps
>
> 6. Winches and accessories
>
> 7. Sheets and Lines
>
> 8. Cushions
>
> 9. Electrical Components
>
> 10. Steering Equipment
>
> 11. Blocks and Clutches
>
> 12. Safety Equipment
>
> 13. Trailer Parts
>
> 14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
>
> 15. Masts and Rigging
>
> 16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
>
> 17. Teak Wood Pieces
>
> 18. Propellers
>
> 19. Tank
>
> 20. Tender
>
> 21. Misc Items
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dan
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage
>
>
>
> I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did
> you see the ad?
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self
> tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them
> shipped from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is
> 504-452-1997 <(504)%20452-1997> and email is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com
> if you'd like to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for
> something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to
> Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price before
> agreeing to purchase.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST
>
>
>
> Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale
>
>
>
> [Shining Waters Marine] T2Ykuyu04OuBE27Lc7pKF0c-Nf_M0cKVQsxSsWDedo9cfaVrhs9BIgLKQ
> GOLENpEK0olSpW8mcqGT4Oszsdz8u2rTnRzKC-fFsghm75P22-4TTtSo1-QWh8Dec0b6LSNM-
> fey3Lt8lQVniy7ofguIOK2nhvHM=&c=kY8e3r-fsh2rQIMTEyZ9iW4HiNQMWtw8cZr3D
> ZPOQqRtYjhkBLeIJw==&ch=-2MEdNmpe6j1Rxfc84I73flqAMMe8AF
> HtXBDQkt_s046w09RmjcQcg==>
>
>
>
> USED PARTS SALE
>
> Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in properly.  
Perhaps not on others.

Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included the 
picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator bucket.  
That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against Third Wave on 
the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.

Mike

USED PARTS SALE
Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400

Boat Recycling

Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT 
RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no longer 
seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY SALE of all 
the bits and pieces from these boats. Saturday December 9th between 10 and 2 at 
Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon. All items will be sold "as 
is where is" condition, with no returns or warranty available. There will be NO 
Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st serve. This will also be a CASH or Debit 
Only Event. All items must be removed immediately unless specialized 
transportation is required (ie. a mast). The boats being parted out are C&C37R, 
Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion 30. There will be other surplus stock items 
available too.

Here is a short list of items available.
1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
2. Anchors ad Rode
3. Sails
4. Heads
5. Water / Macerator Pumps
6. Winches and accessories
7. Sheets and Lines
8. Cushions
9. Electrical Components
10. Steering Equipment
11. Blocks and Clutches
12. Safety Equipment
13. Trailer Parts
14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
15. Masts and Rigging
16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
17. Teak Wood Pieces
18. Propellers
19. Tank
20. Tender
21. Misc Items



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dan via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:30 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dan
Subject: Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did you 
see the ad?

Dan

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self tailing 
winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them shipped from 
your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is 
504-452-1997 and email is 
brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com if you'd like 
to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for something in the 
Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would 
need to know the price before agreeing to purchase.
Thanks in advance!

Brandon

COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST

Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale

[Shining Waters 
Marine]

USED PARTS SALE
Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400


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Stus-List Split in keel.

[Brien Sadler via CnC-List]

I recently discovered this split in the trailing edge of my keel (photo
provided via google drive link below). It looks as though  the split has
exposed the lead of the keel. The rest of the keel looks fine. No evidence
of any water intrusion of any kind in the keel to stub joint. No C&C smile
at all. Has anyone seen anything like this or had to make this repair on
their boat. This is my first season with her and I'd rather not get into a
super expensive keel repair if I don't have to. My thoughts were inject
with epoxy, cover with glass mat, sand, fair, and repaint. Any thoughts or
advice would be greatly appreciated.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzW7COeyzYvZRTY5VFNtQWRlLUgtUnFianBxUmpOQXYtYThV

Brien Sadler
1987 C&C 35-3
Norwich, CT
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Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

It was an emailed notice.  I forwarded it and on my email it came in properly.  
Perhaps not on others.

Below I have copied the text from the ad and pasted.  I have not included the 
picture of the busted up remnants of Third Wave under the excavator bucket.  
That is simply too depressing.  We raced boat for boat against Third Wave on 
the C&C115 Koobalibra.  Same handicap.

Mike

USED PARTS SALE
Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400

Boat Recycling

Shining Waters Marine has entered a new area of he marine business BOAT 
RECYCLING. Over the past summer we have acquired 3 vessels that were no longer 
seaworthy and we have dismantled them. We are now offering a 1 DAY SALE of all 
the bits and pieces from these boats. Saturday December 9th between 10 and 2 at 
Shining Waters Marine, 148 Nautical Way, Tantallon. All items will be sold "as 
is where is" condition, with no returns or warranty available. There will be NO 
Holds and NO Layaway, 1st come 1st serve. This will also be a CASH or Debit 
Only Event. All items must be removed immediately unless specialized 
transportation is required (ie. a mast). The boats being parted out are C&C37R, 
Kadey-Krogan 38 and Grampion 30. There will be other surplus stock items 
available too.

Here is a short list of items available.
1. Complete Raymarine Nav Package
2. Anchors ad Rode
3. Sails
4. Heads
5. Water / Macerator Pumps
6. Winches and accessories
7. Sheets and Lines
8. Cushions
9. Electrical Components
10. Steering Equipment
11. Blocks and Clutches
12. Safety Equipment
13. Trailer Parts
14. Diesel Engines (Perkins 4108, Universal M35, Yanmar 1GM)
15. Masts and Rigging
16. Spinnaker Pole / Reaching Struts
17. Teak Wood Pieces
18. Propellers
19. Tank
20. Tender
21. Misc Items

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

Dennis, I think a lot of us are nuts that way.

A wise friend once opined that a boat is like a mistress:
You have it because you love it.
It WILL take all of your money.
And it might as well be pretty.

Our older C&Cs are about the best looking boats going (though I will allow that 
the old Swan 62 is a piece of kinetic art).

A J/30 or J/105 can be fast and fun, but who ever looked at one of them at 
anchor and said “Damn, that’s a pretty boat.”?

A friend had his Cal 29-2 was in the slip between my 38 and a friends C&C 29-2. 
He recently upgraded to a 35-2. Guess he’s a bit nuts, too.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:48 PM
To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

After I finished I stepped on the pier to admire the job.  Darn.  Nice looking 
boat!  Guess I'm nuts in a different way.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I don’t know, you have to be nuts to buy a boat!
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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Here are the links to the units we use at work and their cross
sensitivitys.  I don't know the science behind it...

http://us.msasafety.com/Portable-Gas-Detection/Multi-
Gas/ALTAIR%C2%AE-5X-Multigas-Detector/p/8000161023

 http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/minesafetyappliances/
08_ALTAIR-2X-4X-5X-Cross-Sensitivity


Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C&C37+

Solomons, MD

On Nov 28, 2017 8:55 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Batteries give off hydrogen. I am not sure why a CO detector would react
> to H2. If you have a combo CO/Propane detector, it would likely react to
> any flammable gas.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
>
> *From:* jhnelson [mailto:jhnelso...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 7:17 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CO detector choices
>
>
>
> I don't believe home Co detectors actually detect Co.  I set mine off over
> charging my 8d battery. Pretty sure batteries off gas hydrogen and not Co.
>  Anyone know how they actually work? Or is my chemistry lacking?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: 2017-11-27 16:44 (GMT-04:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Stus-List CO detector choices
>
> My original coal mine CO detector died long ago. I replaced it with a
> Xintex marine CO detector. It is now old enough to need replacement or a
> factory refurb if they will do it. That will cost either $140 or so for new
> or $25 for a refurb. So I was in the hardware store and what do you know –
> a home CO detector for $25 brand new and it runs on batteries.
>
> Does anyone have any idea if these are suitable for a boat? I am going to
> get something, no way do I want people sleeping below without some kind of
> alarm.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
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Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

C&C has several generations of styles. The 35 and 39 MK Is might not be the 
fastest or the best or the most comfortable, but the look holds up over the 
years IMHO. If a 39 would only fit in my slip………..they are floating art ☺

Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 10:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

Dennis, I think a lot of us are nuts that way.

A wise friend once opined that a boat is like a mistress:
You have it because you love it.
It WILL take all of your money.
And it might as well be pretty.

Our older C&Cs are about the best looking boats going (though I will allow that 
the old Swan 62 is a piece of kinetic art).

A J/30 or J/105 can be fast and fun, but who ever looked at one of them at 
anchor and said “Damn, that’s a pretty boat.”?

A friend had his Cal 29-2 was in the slip between my 38 and a friends C&C 29-2. 
He recently upgraded to a 35-2. Guess he’s a bit nuts, too.

Rick Brass
Washington, NC



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:48 PM
To: CnClist mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Dennis C. mailto:capt...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

After I finished I stepped on the pier to admire the job.  Darn.  Nice looking 
boat!  Guess I'm nuts in a different way.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I don’t know, you have to be nuts to buy a boat!
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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I have one exactly like that. And even if it is not “marine”, it survived some 
moisture (it was located under a leaking port for a while and survived).

Marek


From: Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 09:13
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail
Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices


I have a Kidde battery powered model that includes a digital readout, which I 
find useful. I can tell at a glance if levels are present or rising, long 
before the alarm sounds. A good set of batteries lasts many years.



Bill Bina

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Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Dennis, I think a lot of us are nuts that way.

 

A wise friend once opined that a boat is like a mistress:

You have it because you love it.

It WILL take all of your money.

And it might as well be pretty.

 

Our older C&Cs are about the best looking boats going (though I will allow that 
the old Swan 62 is a piece of kinetic art).

 

A J/30 or J/105 can be fast and fun, but who ever looked at one of them at 
anchor and said “Damn, that’s a pretty boat.”?

 

A friend had his Cal 29-2 was in the slip between my 38 and a friends C&C 29-2. 
He recently upgraded to a 35-2. Guess he’s a bit nuts, too.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:48 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for a C&C 35 MKI

 

After I finished I stepped on the pier to admire the job.  Darn.  Nice looking 
boat!  Guess I'm nuts in a different way.  :)

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I don’t know, you have to be nuts to buy a boat!

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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Dan via CnC-List]

I can't find anything on this website about the used parts sale, where did
you see the ad?

Dan

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self
> tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them
> shipped from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is
> 504-452-1997 <(504)%20452-1997> and email is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com
> if you'd like to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for
> something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to
> Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price before
> agreeing to purchase.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Brandon
>
> COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST
>
> Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale
>
> [Shining Waters Marine] T2Ykuyu04OuBE27Lc7pKF0c-Nf_M0cKVQsxSsWDedo9cfaVrhs9BIgLKQ
> GOLENpEK0olSpW8mcqGT4Oszsdz8u2rTnRzKC-fFsghm75P22-4TTtSo1-QWh8Dec0b6LSNM-
> fey3Lt8lQVniy7ofguIOK2nhvHM=&c=kY8e3r-fsh2rQIMTEyZ9iW4HiNQMWtw8cZr3D
> ZPOQqRtYjhkBLeIJw==&ch=-2MEdNmpe6j1Rxfc84I73flqAMMe8AF
> HtXBDQkt_s046w09RmjcQcg==>
>
> USED PARTS SALE
> Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400
>
>
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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Dan via CnC-List]

I didn't want to tell anyone this but when I was testing out my espar I ran
it without the combustion air line connected on first startup. a nice cloud
of smelly white smoke bellowed out (burning off years of carbon buildup)
which creeped through my aft cabin and set of my CO detector :) I have a
standard household carbon monoxide detector - glad to know it's working!

Dan C.
C&C44
Halifax, NS

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:16 PM, jhnelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I don't believe home Co detectors actually detect Co.  I set mine off over
> charging my 8d battery. Pretty sure batteries off gas hydrogen and not Co.
>  Anyone know how they actually work? Or is my chemistry lacking?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
> Date: 2017-11-27 16:44 (GMT-04:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" 
> Subject: Stus-List CO detector choices
>
> My original coal mine CO detector died long ago. I replaced it with a
> Xintex marine CO detector. It is now old enough to need replacement or a
> factory refurb if they will do it. That will cost either $140 or so for new
> or $25 for a refurb. So I was in the hardware store and what do you know –
> a home CO detector for $25 brand new and it runs on batteries.
>
> Does anyone have any idea if these are suitable for a boat? I am going to
> get something, no way do I want people sleeping below without some kind of
> alarm.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List]

They're beautiful winches, but out of my price range at the moment.  I was 
hoping the salvage sail would be letting some go for cheap.  If not I'm going 
to wait until the summer.  Thanks though!
BrandonC&C 35-1 Hull #51TangoNew Orleans, LA
 

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 8:46:38 AM CST, schiller 
 wrote:  
 
  Brandon,
 
 I have a pair of fresh water Andersen 46 Self Tailing Winches for sail on 
theboatlist.org.  Contact me off list if you are interested.
 
 Neil Schiller
 Old: Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1), Hull #7 (Dismasted)
 New: C&C 35 Mark III, Hull #28
 "Grace"
 White Lake, Michigan
 
 On 11/28/2017 9:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List wrote:
  
   If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self 
tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them shipped 
from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is 504-452-1997 and 
email is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com if you'd like to contact me before going 
to the salvage.  I'm looking for something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, 
equivalent to Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price 
before agreeing to purchase.
 
 Thanks in advance! 
  Brandon
  
 COPIED FROM MIKE HOY'S POST 
  Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale  
  [Shining Waters 
Marine]
  
  USED PARTS SALE
  Saturday, DECEMBER 9th, 2018 - 1000 to 1400
  
   
  
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Re: Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[schiller via CnC-List]

Brandon,

I have a pair of fresh water Andersen 46 Self Tailing Winches for sail 
on theboatlist.org.  Contact me off list if you are interested.


Neil Schiller
Old: Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1), Hull #7 (Dismasted)
New: C&C 35 Mark III, Hull #28
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan

On 11/28/2017 9:06 AM, Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List wrote:
If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self 
tailing winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have 
them shipped from your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number 
is 504-452-1997 and email is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com if you'd 
like to contact me before going to the salvage.  I'm looking for 
something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to 
Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price 
before agreeing to purchase.


Thanks in advance!

Brandon

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Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale

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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

I have a Kidde battery powered model that includes a digital readout, 
which I find useful. I can tell at a glance if levels are present or 
rising, long before the alarm sounds. A good set of batteries lasts many 
years.




Bill Bina


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Stus-List Subject: 37R Salvage

[Brandon Gaspard via CnC-List]

If anyone goes to this salvage can you please take a look at some self tailing 
winches for me and if it's not too much trouble I can have them shipped from 
your nearest Kinkos/Fed Ex or UPS Store.  My number is 504-452-1997 and email 
is brandongaspard1...@yahoo.com if you'd like to contact me before going to the 
salvage.  I'm looking for something in the Barient 22 or 23 size, equivalent to 
Lewmar/Harken/Anderson 40-44ish.  I would need to know the price before 
agreeing to purchase.

Thanks in advance!
Brandon

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 Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale
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Re: Stus-List Sail drives in general

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have had good luck with my PSS shaft seal.  I only replaced it because the 
shaft was being replaced anyway. That said, I think you can accomplish the same 
thing now with Teflon packing in a stuffing box more or less.
Sail drives seem fantastic to USE, I have nothing but good to say about how 
they perform. They can potentially be a huge  maintenance nightmare when 
they go bad though. One trick someone told me about was to fill the cooling 
water intake with epoxy and use a normal seacock.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nauset Beach 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nauset Beach ; 'Ted Drossos' 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail drives in general

Thanks for all the responses on sail drives.  I have many of the same 
reservations expressed, but also have the same with the PSS shaft seal not 
seeing the value of changing from the traditional packing.  That said, if a 
potential new to me boat had a PSS shaft seal I would not reject it out of 
hand.  As with many things, it comes down to knowing the pros and cons of any 
“new” technology and applying the appropriate maintenance.  It is reassuring to 
hear the multiple positive experiences from sail drive owners on the list.

From the very small sample of responding sail drives owners on the list, there 
seems to be a very different cost for the seal change between the Yanmars and 
the one Volvo, with John shelling out 2 x’s what the Yanmar owners did.  
Granted it is more than replacing packing, whether GFO or regular flax.  It 
does not seem to just be a regional “cost of living” variation as believe Barry 
is also on western LIS [Mt. Sinai area] and IIRC Ted is / was further out on 
the island, vs. Ron on the Narragansett ??  Though McMichaels does have a 
premium price reputation [from what I have heard is one of the better, few 
remaining yards in the area] it may be more a Volvo vs Yanmar cost 
differential.  Some further research is needed.

Thanks,
Brian

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ted Drossos 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ted Drossos mailto:replus...@aol.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Sail drives in general

I had also had reservations about sail drives when looking for my next boat. I 
spoke with a lot of people who actually owned a boat with a sail drive and the 
overwhelming majority of owners really liked them. There was nothing said that 
would would have prevented me from purchasing a boat with a sail drive. So I 
did.

I have owned boats with shafts and sail drives and can tell you from first hand 
experience that I prefer a sail drive. Some people worry about the seal at the 
hull failing and sinking their boat but if you ever saw that seal, you would 
realize it would be very difficult for it to fail. When I purchased my boat I 
had the original seal replaced as it was 14 years old but still looked new. I 
tried to puncture the old seal with a screwdriver but it was extremely 
difficult to do. It was easier to damage the bellows on my previous boat with a 
PSS dripless shaft seal. The sail drive seal is protected by the hull and sits 
about 8 inches above the bottom of the boat. You would have to do a huge amount 
of damage to your hull before the seal would be exposed.

Changing the seal is a DIY project if you are somewhat handy. I will definitely 
do it myself next time. My engine had to be slid forward a couple of inches to 
remove the sail drive. There was one mechanic doing the work and he had no 
problem moving the engine by himself. The sail drive on my boat is 16 years old 
and doesn't have any corrosion. Keep it coated with the proper paint and you 
won't have issues. Maintenance costs are similar to those of a shaft drive. I 
wouldn't hesitate to buy another boat with a sail drive as I don't see any 
downside.

Ted Drossos
C&C 110
Lady in Red
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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Wow – good to know.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 10:11 PM
To: C&C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

We use Altair atmospheric monitors to detect bad air in confined spaces where I 
work.  The CO sensor is identified as being cross sensitive by the manufacturer 
and we've seen this occur during use.  In fact we have been able to detect 
hydrogen leaks from compressed gas systems using this method.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017, 7:19 PM jhnelson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I don't believe home Co detectors actually detect Co.  I set mine off over 
charging my 8d battery. Pretty sure batteries off gas hydrogen and not Co.   
Anyone know how they actually work? Or is my chemistry lacking?



Sent from my Samsung device


 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 2017-11-27 16:44 (GMT-04:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List CO detector choices
My original coal mine CO detector died long ago. I replaced it with a Xintex 
marine CO detector. It is now old enough to need replacement or a factory 
refurb if they will do it. That will cost either $140 or so for new or $25 for 
a refurb. So I was in the hardware store and what do you know – a home CO 
detector for $25 brand new and it runs on batteries.
Does anyone have any idea if these are suitable for a boat? I am going to get 
something, no way do I want people sleeping below without some kind of alarm.



Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Batteries give off hydrogen. I am not sure why a CO detector would react to H2. 
If you have a combo CO/Propane detector, it would likely react to any flammable 
gas.

Joe
Coquina

From: jhnelson [mailto:jhnelso...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 7:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List CO detector choices

I don't believe home Co detectors actually detect Co.  I set mine off over 
charging my 8d battery. Pretty sure batteries off gas hydrogen and not Co.   
Anyone know how they actually work? Or is my chemistry lacking?



Sent from my Samsung device


 Original message 
From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Date: 2017-11-27 16:44 (GMT-04:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Stus-List CO detector choices
My original coal mine CO detector died long ago. I replaced it with a Xintex 
marine CO detector. It is now old enough to need replacement or a factory 
refurb if they will do it. That will cost either $140 or so for new or $25 for 
a refurb. So I was in the hardware store and what do you know – a home CO 
detector for $25 brand new and it runs on batteries.
Does anyone have any idea if these are suitable for a boat? I am going to get 
something, no way do I want people sleeping below without some kind of alarm.



Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Sail drives in general

[Nauset Beach via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the responses on sail drives.  I have many of the same 
reservations expressed, but also have the same with the PSS shaft seal not 
seeing the value of changing from the traditional packing.  That said, if a 
potential new to me boat had a PSS shaft seal I would not reject it out of 
hand.  As with many things, it comes down to knowing the pros and cons of any 
“new” technology and applying the appropriate maintenance.  It is reassuring to 
hear the multiple positive experiences from sail drive owners on the list.  

 

>From the very small sample of responding sail drives owners on the list, there 
>seems to be a very different cost for the seal change between the Yanmars and 
>the one Volvo, with John shelling out 2 x’s what the Yanmar owners did.  
>Granted it is more than replacing packing, whether GFO or regular flax.  It 
>does not seem to just be a regional “cost of living” variation as believe 
>Barry is also on western LIS [Mt. Sinai area] and IIRC Ted is / was further 
>out on the island, vs. Ron on the Narragansett ??  Though McMichaels does have 
>a premium price reputation [from what I have heard is one of the better, few 
>remaining yards in the area] it may be more a Volvo vs Yanmar cost 
>differential.  Some further research is needed.  

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ted Drossos 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Ted Drossos 
Subject: Stus-List Sail drives in general

 

I had also had reservations about sail drives when looking for my next boat. I 
spoke with a lot of people who actually owned a boat with a sail drive and the 
overwhelming majority of owners really liked them. There was nothing said that 
would would have prevented me from purchasing a boat with a sail drive. So I 
did. 

 

I have owned boats with shafts and sail drives and can tell you from first hand 
experience that I prefer a sail drive. Some people worry about the seal at the 
hull failing and sinking their boat but if you ever saw that seal, you would 
realize it would be very difficult for it to fail. When I purchased my boat I 
had the original seal replaced as it was 14 years old but still looked new. I 
tried to puncture the old seal with a screwdriver but it was extremely 
difficult to do. It was easier to damage the bellows on my previous boat with a 
PSS dripless shaft seal. The sail drive seal is protected by the hull and sits 
about 8 inches above the bottom of the boat. You would have to do a huge amount 
of damage to your hull before the seal would be exposed. 

 

Changing the seal is a DIY project if you are somewhat handy. I will definitely 
do it myself next time. My engine had to be slid forward a couple of inches to 
remove the sail drive. There was one mechanic doing the work and he had no 
problem moving the engine by himself. The sail drive on my boat is 16 years old 
and doesn't have any corrosion. Keep it coated with the proper paint and you 
won't have issues. Maintenance costs are similar to those of a shaft drive. I 
wouldn't hesitate to buy another boat with a sail drive as I don't see any 
downside. 

 

Ted Drossos

C&C 110

Lady in Red

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Stus-List 37R

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

There is sadly a C&C 37R that has been demolished locally and an auction on 
Saturday Dec 9 for many of the parts from this boat.

Mike

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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:15 PM
To: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Salvage Boat Parts Sale










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