Re: Stus-List Window replacement

[M Bodnar via CnC-List]

  
  


My CS 30 is the same - no inset for the windows, just flat cabin
  sides.  Windows are mounted with the VHB tape which leaves space
  for the sealant.
Mark




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On 2017-12-15 2:55 PM, Gary Russell via
  CnC-List wrote:


  Steve,
     My 37+ has, pretty much, a surface installation, but
  with the 0.090" VHB tap and a 3/16" bevel there is plenty of
  room for the sealant.  My windows are now 2 years old and no
  signs of leaking or problems of any kind.  They also really
  look attractive!  See pictures of the project here.


Gary
  
  

  ~~~_/)~~
  



On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Steve
  Thomas via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  My
C&C27 has windows that are glued and screwed directly on
the surface of the cabin. There is no cavity, and no visible
sealant, and yes they leak. I suspect that they were glued
down with Plexus or something similar, but I wish that
whoever did it had left out the screws. Anyway,

Has anyone attempted this sort of on-the-surface
installation using VHB tape? Seems there would be very
little room for sealant. Maybe have to use an exposed
fillet?

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII

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Re: Stus-List Window replacement

[Alex DeLaPena via CnC-List]

I have a 1972 C&C 30. It has aluminum frames for the windows. 


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On Sunday, December 17, 2017, 2:39 PM, M Bodnar via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

 
 
My CS 30 is the same - no inset for the windows, just flat cabin sides.  
Windows are mounted with the VHB tape which leaves space for the sealant.
 
Mark

  

- On 2017-12-15 2:55 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:
  
 Steve,      My 37+ has, pretty much, a surface installation, but with the 
0.090" VHB tap and a 3/16" bevel there is plenty of room for the sealant.  My 
windows are now 2 years old and no signs of leaking or problems of any kind.  
They also really look attractive!  See pictures of the project here. 
  Gary  
  ~~~_/)~~
 
   
 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
My C&C27 has windows that are glued and screwed directly on the surface of the 
cabin. There is no cavity, and no visible sealant, and yes they leak. I suspect 
that they were glued down with Plexus or something similar, but I wish that 
whoever did it had left out the screws. Anyway,
 
 Has anyone attempted this sort of on-the-surface installation using VHB tape? 
Seems there would be very little room for sealant. Maybe have to use an exposed 
fillet?
 
 Steve Thomas
 C&C27 MKIII
 
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Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Bunky via CnC-List]

Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what 
the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, 
and based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.


Richard
Luna, Lake Champlain, VT

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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

Try this propellor calculator. rbbi.com/folders/prop/propcalc.htm


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Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH 
Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what 
the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, 
and based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.

Richard
Luna, Lake Champlain, VT

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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

Be sure you know your transmission ratio, prop-hull clearance, ideal engine 
RPM, etc.  before you rely on a simple calculation. This is a question that 
seems like it should have a simple answer but "...it depends on several other 
parameters.." so a simple answer could be wrong. If the Max-Prop allows, you 
might just  change the pitch and see if the performance improves.

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> On Dec 17, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Bunky via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what the 
> proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, and based 
> on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
> 
> Richard
> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

While motoring in forward gear, run the engine at full throttle.  Your
engine should be able to reach maximum, or close to maximum rated rpm.  If
not, your pitch is to high.  If the engine runs much higher than maximum
rated rpm at full throttle, your pitch is too low.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Bunky via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what
> the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, and
> based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
>
> Richard
> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

With a standard 4.61 transmission ratio, I use a 17" Max Prop set to 10
pitch (18° blade angle). 2500 RPM gives me 6 knots in fairly smooth water.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 17 December 2017 at 16:21, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> While motoring in forward gear, run the engine at full throttle.  Your
> engine should be able to reach maximum, or close to maximum rated rpm.  If
> not, your pitch is to high.  If the engine runs much higher than maximum
> rated rpm at full throttle, your pitch is too low.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Bunky via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
>> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what
>> the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, and
>> based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
>>
>> Richard
>> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
>>
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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Call Fred at PYI, he is a veritable font of information. You'll need to know 
the prop diameter and transmission reduction; he will have a table with your 
boat and engine on it. He was terrifically helpful when I put the new engine in 
Peregrine.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

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> On Dec 17, 2017, at 17:56, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Try this propellor calculator. 
> rbbi.com/folders/prop/propcalc.htm
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy 
> POYC 
> Rebecca Leah 
> Lf39
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Bunky via CnC-List 
> Date: 12/17/17 14:18 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bunky 
> Subject: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH
> 
> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what 
> the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, 
> and based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
> 
> Richard
> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
> 
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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Your engine manual should have a max achievable RPM listed. If you mash the 
throttle and can't get to that RPM, you need to dial in finer pitch.

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Dec 17, 2017, at 18:23, Charles Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be sure you know your transmission ratio, prop-hull clearance, ideal engine 
> RPM, etc.  before you rely on a simple calculation. This is a question that 
> seems like it should have a simple answer but "...it depends on several other 
> parameters.." so a simple answer could be wrong. If the Max-Prop allows, you 
> might just  change the pitch and see if the performance improves.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Bunky via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what the 
>> proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, and based 
>> on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
>> 
>> Richard
>> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
>> 
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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[detroito91 via CnC-List]

Or contact jerome blakely, max-prop service mgr at pyi. Phone # 425.355.3669. 
They are rebuilding my max-prop now.Jim schwartz38 LFSEA YA!washington nc
 Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 Date: 12/17/17  7:46 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH 
Call Fred at PYI, he is a veritable font of information. You'll need to know 
the prop diameter and transmission reduction; he will have a table with your 
boat and engine on it. He was terrifically helpful when I put the new engine in 
Peregrine.AndyC&C 40Peregrine

Andrew Burton61 W NarragansettNewport, RI USA    02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Dec 17, 2017, at 17:56, svpegasus38 via CnC-List  
wrote:

Try this propellor calculator. rbbi.com/folders/prop/propcalc.htm


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 Original message From: Bunky via CnC-List 
 Date: 12/17/17  14:18  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bunky  Subject: 
Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH 
Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what 
the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop, 
and based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.

Richard
Luna, Lake Champlain, VT

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Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Max rpm is 3600 for that engine.

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM detroito91 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Or contact jerome blakely, max-prop service mgr at pyi. Phone #
> 425.355.3669. They are rebuilding my max-prop now.
> Jim schwartz
> 38 LF
> SEA YA!
> washington nc
>
>  Original message 
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
> Date: 12/17/17 7:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH
>
> Call Fred at PYI, he is a veritable font of information. You'll need to
> know the prop diameter and transmission reduction; he will have a table
> with your boat and engine on it. He was terrifically helpful when I put the
> new engine in Peregrine.
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Dec 17, 2017, at 17:56, svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Try this propellor calculator.
> rbbi.com/folders/prop/propcalc.htm
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy
> POYC
> Rebecca Leah
> Lf39
>
>  Original message 
> From: Bunky via CnC-List 
> Date: 12/17/17 14:18 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bunky 
> Subject: Stus-List PROPELLER PITCH
>
> Luna is a 1984 C&C 35 with a Yanmar 3gm30 engine. Does anyone know what
> the proper propeller pitch should be? She has an aftermarket Maxiprop,
> and based on engine performance, I believe the pitch may be set too high.
>
> Richard
> Luna, Lake Champlain, VT
>
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Re: Stus-List Window replacement

[Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List]

Thanks...

I appreciate the offer and may very well reach out to you come spring.

Yes, I sail out of Armdale.

Regards
Munden
Halifax, NS
C&C 33 Mk II

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:23:11 AM
To: Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Window replacement

Hi Munden:

Where do you sail from?   I am guessing it is the Armdale Yacht Club.

I replaced all my cabin windows about 8 years ago..had tothey all were 
leaking and there was no way to keep the water out other than replace the 
windowsI tried everything else and it always eventually failed.  At the 
time, I didn't know about the 3M tape so I used an adhesive called Sikaflex UV 
295 and the Sika primer.it was very effective but more labor intensive than 
the tape would be.

I sail out of the RNSYS.if you need any input on this job,don't hesitate to 
contact me.glad to pass on my experience(s) doing this boat job.

Regards

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-12-13 9:41 PM, Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List wrote:
Hi all,
Just want to say thanks to all for the helpful comments on here. I have to 
change the port side cabin window this spring. Not looking forward to it but 
all your suggestions sure does help. I'm new to sailing, been power boating for 
about 18 years but just bought my first sail boat last July. I've sailed on 
other people's boats but being the skipper is a whole new thing.
Thanksfor the comments/help.
Munden
Halifax, NS
S/V Rostral
C&C 33 Mk II

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