Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

There is certainly nothing wrong with having a centrifugal as a back up
too.  You can set the level switch higher in the bilge so that it only runs
when the capacity of the gusher is exceeded.

For what it is worth I was in a pinch and ran to Walmart LATE one night
after the local chandleries were closed.  I bought whatever they had (IIRC
it was branded as Johnson with a 3 year warranty, 1200 gpm).  It has lasted
more than 3 years and considerably longer than the Rule pump which it
replaced.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 9:00 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have to agree with Danny.  I mounted a Whale Gusher and it does a much
> better job of sucking the bilge dry than any of the centrifugal pumps that
> start picking up air earlier and then cannot pull any more water out.
> Those always seem to allow a lot of backflow, and a backflow preventer
> valve only adds restrictions, thus slowing the flow.
>
> Though the Whale Gulper is not rated nearly as high from a gallons per
> hour basis, judging from the time it takes to empty a nearly full bilge I
> get the impression that its real life performance is nearly as good as the
> small centrifugals.
>
> Just my $.02 worth...
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> --
> *From:* Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
> *To:* Eric Frank via CnC-List 
> *Cc:* Danny Haughey 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump
>
> Oh And on the Viking, I used 2 Whale gusher pumps.  I mounted them High
> and dry in a locker and was able to suck the water out with hose led into
> the bilge.  If you can make the pump you high point and go gravity from
> there, you might actually be able to get the water level down very low with
> little backflow.   I have to say, it is nice getting the pumps and the
> wiring out of the bilge.  I plan on doing this same setup someday on the
> tartan.
>
> On 6/20/2018 4:26 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
>
> The automatic bilge pump in Cat’s Paw is fairly old (2011) and although it
> still works fine, it requires a separate float switch (also old) which is
> located in a shallower part of the bilge so leaves about 4 inches of water
> at the pump when it turns off.  I am looking for a replacement that has the
> water level switch in the pump.  There are lots of these for sale, but what
> is the list’s recommendation?  The old pump is a Shurflo (sp?) 355-100-00,
> rated at 1000 gals/hr , - the label says it draws 7.35
> amps (but I haven’t measured it).  Is Shurflo even made any more? I see
> Rule pumps and lots of brands I have never heard of on line. The automatic
> pumps I found online leave about 2 inches of water - is that the best we
> can do? And what pumps last well?  Advice welcome.
>
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

I have to agree with Danny.  I mounted a Whale Gusher and it does a much better 
job of sucking the bilge dry than any of the centrifugal pumps that start 
picking up air earlier and then cannot pull any more water out.  Those always 
seem to allow a lot of backflow, and a backflow preventer valve only adds 
restrictions, thus slowing the flow.  

Though the Whale Gulper is not rated nearly as high from a gallons per hour 
basis, judging from the time it takes to empty a nearly full bilge I get the 
impression that its real life performance is nearly as good as the small 
centrifugals.
Just my $.02 worth...
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


  From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 To: Eric Frank via CnC-List  
Cc: Danny Haughey 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump
   
 Oh And on the Viking, I used 2 Whale gusher pumps.  I mounted them High and 
dry in a locker and was able to suck the water out with hose led into the 
bilge.  If you can make the pump you high point and go gravity from there, you 
might actually be able to get the water level down very low with little 
backflow.   I have to say, it is nice getting the pumps and the wiring out of 
the bilge.  I plan on doing this same setup someday on the tartan.
  
 On 6/20/2018 4:26 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
  
 
The automatic bilge pump in Cat’s Paw is fairly old (2011) and although it 
still works fine, it requires a separate float switch (also old) which is 
located in a shallower part of the bilge so leaves about 4 inches of water at 
the pump when it turns off.  I am looking for a replacement that has the water 
level switch in the pump.  There are lots of these for sale, but what is the 
list’s recommendation?  The old pump is a Shurflo (sp?) 355-100-00, rated at 
1000 gals/hr, - the label says it draws 7.35 amps (but I haven’t measured it).  
Is Shurflo even made any more? I see Rule pumps and lots of brands I have never 
heard of on line. The automatic pumps I found online leave about 2 inches of 
water - is that the best we can do? And what pumps last well?  Advice welcome.
 
  Eric Frank
 Cat's Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
 Mattapoisett, MA  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Oh And on the Viking, I used 2 Whale gusher pumps.  I mounted them High 
and dry in a locker and was able to suck the water out with hose led 
into the bilge.  If you can make the pump you high point and go gravity 
from there, you might actually be able to get the water level down very 
low with little backflow.   I have to say, it is nice getting the pumps 
and the wiring out of the bilge.  I plan on doing this same setup 
someday on the tartan.



On 6/20/2018 4:26 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
The automatic bilge pump in Cat’s Paw is fairly old (2011) and 
although it still works fine, it requires a separate float switch 
(also old) which is located in a shallower part of the bilge so leaves 
about 4 inches of water at the pump when it turns off.  I am looking 
for a replacement that has the water level switch in the pump.  There 
are lots of these for sale, but what is the list’s recommendation? 
 The old pump is a Shurflo (sp?) 355-100-00, rated at 1000 gals/hr 
, - the label says it draws 7.35 amps (but I haven’t 
measured it).  Is Shurflo even made any more? I see Rule pumps and 
lots of brands I have never heard of on line. The automatic pumps I 
found online leave about 2 inches of water - is that the best we can 
do? And what pumps last well?  Advice welcome.


Eric Frank
Cat's Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA



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Re: Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Eric!

Hope I'll be seeing around the harbor soon!

I used one of the small Whale pumps in my sump.  Nice little unit going 
on season 3


Danny


On 6/20/2018 4:26 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
The automatic bilge pump in Cat’s Paw is fairly old (2011) and 
although it still works fine, it requires a separate float switch 
(also old) which is located in a shallower part of the bilge so leaves 
about 4 inches of water at the pump when it turns off.  I am looking 
for a replacement that has the water level switch in the pump.  There 
are lots of these for sale, but what is the list’s recommendation? 
 The old pump is a Shurflo (sp?) 355-100-00, rated at 1000 gals/hr 
, - the label says it draws 7.35 amps (but I haven’t 
measured it).  Is Shurflo even made any more? I see Rule pumps and 
lots of brands I have never heard of on line. The automatic pumps I 
found online leave about 2 inches of water - is that the best we can 
do? And what pumps last well?  Advice welcome.


Eric Frank
Cat's Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA



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Stus-List recommendations for a small bilge pump

[Eric Frank via CnC-List]

The automatic bilge pump in Cat’s Paw is fairly old (2011) and although it 
still works fine, it requires a separate float switch (also old) which is 
located in a shallower part of the bilge so leaves about 4 inches of water at 
the pump when it turns off.  I am looking for a replacement that has the water 
level switch in the pump.  There are lots of these for sale, but what is the 
list’s recommendation?  The old pump is a Shurflo (sp?) 355-100-00, rated at 
1000 gals/hr , - the label says it draws 7.35 amps (but I 
haven’t measured it).  Is Shurflo even made any more? I see Rule pumps and lots 
of brands I have never heard of on line. The automatic pumps I found online 
leave about 2 inches of water - is that the best we can do? And what pumps last 
well?  Advice welcome.

Eric Frank
Cat's Paw, C&C 35 Mk II
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Free Sails for C&C 37+

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

For anyone else considering these sails, feel free to reach out to me.
I've agree to hold on to them for Ron but will likely never use them.  I
have the triple spreader rig and have had a new sail made for my boat.
It's luff length is 51' 2.5".  I had it cut slightly short so that it would
ride slightly above the deck and lifelines.  Thus, Ron's sails measuring at
51' 5" would mate with my furler just fine.  I believe that the second sail
with a 52' luff would need to be flown without the furler drum or swivel
(or both).

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 1:50 PM Ron Ricci via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have two jibs that I don’t use and will give them to anyone willing to
> pick them up in Annapolis, MD.  Below are links to photos and specs for
> each sail.
>
> ·   98% Kevlar Jib - https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkeG82Ht0IpjLOc5
>
> o   Luff = 51'-5"
>
> o   Foot = 15'-8"
>
> o   Leach = 49'
>
> ·   155% Light Kevlar Genoa -
> https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkZsSamLMQtUGi1y
>
> o   Luff = 52'
>
> o   Foot = 24'-9"
>
> o   Leach = 50'-6"
>
> I took these sails to Bacon Sails last March and after several inquiries
> they finally said the sails had no value because supposedly they were
> de-laminating.  When I left the sails off, the preliminary inspection did
> not show any delamination nor did I see any when the photos were taken.  It
> is not practical for me to pick up the sails and it would be a shame to
> dispose of them.  I’d feel much better if someone could put them to good
> use (or at least store them in their attic).
>
> Please contact me off line ASAP if you are interested.  I will make
> arrangements so you can pick up one or both.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Ron*
>
> Ron Ricci
>
> S/V Patriot
>
> C&C 37+
>
> Bristol, RI
>
> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
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Re: Stus-List how to search the archives and marine insurance

[Morgan Ellis via CnC-List]

I'm in Ontario and my insurance is with Intact. Great rates, fortunately I
have not had to deal with them other then putting insurance on the boat so
I can't comment any further than that.

Regards

Morgan
SV Meandher
30-2 #140

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