Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

That would be awesome!  Stay in touch off list.

Joel

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 9:07 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
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> May see you there. Hoping to leave NC with Masquerade in early Feb.
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:56, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Andy
> We arrive February 28 for 6 days.  Our second trip there.
> Joel
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:54 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> When are you there, Joel?
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>> Middletown, RI
>> USA02842
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not the usual destination but we are chartering inMartinique again
>> through a French company, Punch Crosiere.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:44 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
>>> Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they
>>> go and they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but
>>> the attitude is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>>> Middletown, RI
>>> USA02842
>>>
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>> +401 965-5260
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?
>>> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering
>>> whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.
>>> Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback
>>> appreciated. Tx
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

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May see you there. Hoping to leave NC with Masquerade in early Feb.

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:56, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Andy
> We arrive February 28 for 6 days.  Our second trip there.  
> Joel
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:54 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> When are you there, Joel?
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>> Middletown, RI 
>> USA02842
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not the usual destination but we are chartering inMartinique again through 
>>> a French company, Punch Crosiere. 
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
 On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:44 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
 Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they go 
 and they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but the 
 attitude is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.
 
 
 Andrew Burton
 139 Tuckerman Ave
 Middletown, RI 
 USA02842
 
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 +401 965-5260
 
> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?  
> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering 
> whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.  
> Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback 
> appreciated. Tx
> 
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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Andy
We arrive February 28 for 6 days.  Our second trip there.
Joel

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:54 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
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> When are you there, Joel?
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Not the usual destination but we are chartering inMartinique again through
> a French company, Punch Crosiere.
>
> Joel
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:44 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
>> Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they go
>> and they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but the
>> attitude is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>> Middletown, RI
>> USA02842
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?
>> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering
>> whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.
>> Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback
>> appreciated. Tx
>>
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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

When are you there, Joel?

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Not the usual destination but we are chartering inMartinique again through a 
> French company, Punch Crosiere. 
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:44 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
>> Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they go 
>> and they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but the 
>> attitude is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>> Middletown, RI 
>> USA02842
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?  
>>> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering 
>>> whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.  
>>> Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback 
>>> appreciated. Tx
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List West Marine Black Friday

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I'm going to get the Siren Marine boat monitoring system. It's a really good 
deal for a terrific product. I was just up at their head office for a chat 
yesterday and came away very impressed. The device uses a cell signal to 
monitor your boat. The service on Black Friday is free for two years, I think, 
and it's normally $200/year, which still isn't bad. And the cell service is 
good anywhere in the world for that price. So if your boat is in the Caribbean 
or Mexico or Europe you can still monitor water level, battery status, 
position, etc. 
Andy 

Andrew Burton
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USA02842

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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:01, Paul E via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I noticed that the West Marine is showing their Black Friday specials.   
> LifeSling2 for $99 and 25% off bulk rope are just two of high lights.  
> 
> 
> https://www.westmarine.com/blackfriday
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 1981 C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

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We have a boat reserved for mid January in the bvi. We'll see.  Doug Mountjoy 
Sv Rebecca Leah LH39Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: David Blair via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/10/18  14:04  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Blair  Subject: Stus-List 
Charter Caribbean? Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation 
there?  Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering 
whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.  Doing 
a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback appreciated. Tx___

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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Not the usual destination but we are chartering inMartinique again through
a French company, Punch Crosiere.

Joel

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:44 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
> Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they go
> and they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but the
> attitude is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?
> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering
> whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.
> Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback
> appreciated. Tx
>
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Re: Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

The BVI are fine. I was there last spring.
Friends asked the same question about last year and I recommended they go and 
they had a great time. The facilities aren't all better, yet, but the attitude 
is good and the natives are really glad to have you back.


Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:04, David Blair via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?  
> Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering whether 
> Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.  Doing a 
> little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback appreciated. Tx
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Stus-List Charter Caribbean?

[David Blair via CnC-List]

Any listers with recent knowledge of the charter situation there?
Remembering the  hurricane damage in the BVI last year I am wondering
whether Granada or St Vincent areas might provide more charter options.
Doing a little research for next March/April.  Any comment/feedback
appreciated. Tx

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Stus-List West Marine Black Friday

[Paul E via CnC-List]

I noticed that the West Marine is showing their Black Friday specials.   
LifeSling2 for $99 and 25% off bulk rope are just two of high lights.  


https://www.westmarine.com/blackfriday 





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1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

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Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

That was a poor wording on my part. We have released under
load a few times due to overrides or whatever else happens on
long races when we get tired. Once in the dark I managed to
pull the jib sheet and spin sheet through the turning block.


For headsail changes we put a temporary line on a sail, hoist the
new sail and move the sheet to it then trim in. The old sail may
get released under load.


Michael Brown 

Windburn

C 30-1 



 
 
From: dwight veinot   
 
Open under load...what hapens to the clew. We do lots of headsail changes 
on yhe go the old way i guess never released the clew under load. Can?t 
imagine how that wotks out good still learning i guess 
 
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Re: Stus-List Shackle for Genoa Sheets?

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I was surprised at the loads, and have no idea why there is a difference
to the various load calculators and postings.


Windburn has ARCO 40s as the primary winches. They are similar to the new
offerings with a 6.3:1 second gear ratio and a 3.25" drum diameter.



http://www.arco-winches.com/products/winch/stdi


With a 10" winch handle the power ratio would be


10 x 6.3 / 1.625 = 38.8


Am I correct in extrapolating that with 50 lbs force on the handle 

there would be about 2000 lbs force on the line?


At high winds and full load my best guess is I am developing over
100 lbs of force on the winch handle, hence my guess at 4000 lbs.




My headsail is in the 300 sq ft range and even at 15 knots the load
on the winch handle is well over 20 lbs.


I don't know what the discrepancies are. I originally used calculators
to come up with a load rating and spec'd the rigging to match.
We wore out the turning block in the first year. The 3/8" standard
doublebraid sheet failed at the clew, though we were pounding into
high wind and waves for hours. I upgraded to New England VPC
3/8, good for 6000 lbs, and broke the core where it turns on the
genoa lead car.


>From the Harken site a 300 sq ft sail at 8 knots would have a 83 pound load.
I have no problem pulling 83 pounds and there is no way I can fully pull
in my #1 by hand at 8 knots. If I really got my back into it and pulled as hard
as I could I might get well over 200 pounds, good for 13 knots on the Harken
site. There is no possibility of me trimming the jib by hand at 13 knots.


Am I getting something wrong?


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1






From: "Dennis C."   
 
300 sq. ft of headsail at 20 knots true is about 520 pounds load. 
 
https://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096 
 
Dennis C. 
Touche' 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 
 
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 7:08 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List  
wrote: 
 
> 4000 lbs of load on a 30 ft. C?  On what do you base this? 
> 
> Sorry if I seem incredulous... 
> 
 

Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:46:23 -0500 
From: "Matthew L. Wolford"  

 
That didn?t sound right to me, either. 
 
From: bwhitmore via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 8:07 PM 


4000 lbs of load on a 30 ft. C?  On what do you base this? 
 
Sorry if I seem incredulous... 
 
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