Re: Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Caution!  Be very careful adding insulation to the bottom of your icebox
lid.  I added insulation to the bottom of Touche's icebox lid and had to
switch beers!  Bottled Coronas and Landsharks were too tall to stand up on
the grate and allow the lid to close.  :(

Solution?  I went to store carefully evaluated beer bottles by height.  The
"official" Touche' beer is now Modelo Especiale.  The shorter bottles now
allow the lid to close completely.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 6:31 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The most important place to start is the underside of the icebox top, it's
> just raw plywood. The opening lid has some light foam inside the
> fiberglass. The outside of the icebox has a couple of inches of urethane
> foamed in place.
>
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Re: Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

The most important place to start is the underside of the icebox top, it's
just raw plywood. The opening lid has some light foam inside the
fiberglass. The outside of the icebox has a couple of inches of urethane
foamed in place. Our freezer unit is right under the removable lid, I made
a "cap" for it from 1" foam insulation, it keeps the freezer much colder.
We additionally keep some heavy industrial bubble wrap on the top of the
whole compartment, that helps hugely.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 14:02, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I very carefully drilled holes in all the walls and then very carefully
> sprayed foam inside the holes in measured amounts so as to not over expand
> and cause stress to the refrigerator walls which can break with the
> expanding foam pressures.  Best  could do.  No data as to improvements but
> I imagine it made a difference
>
> From my Android
>
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> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Allan
> Hester via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 11:54:59 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Allan Hester
> *Subject:* Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> As one of my many winter projects, I am considering upgrading the
> insulation for the refrigeration unit on my 1989 C 35 Mk3.
>
> The unit currently has a Nova Cool which works well and produces ice. My
> goal is to improve the insulation and hopefully reduce the energy required
> to keep the fridge cold.
>
> Does anyone know what type of insulation [if any] is behind the fiberglass
> walls?
>
> Is there any insulation inside the lid?
>
> Ideas on how to upgrade the insulation or perhaps C did a good job at
> the factory and there is no need to touch it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Al H.
>
> 1989 C 35 Mk 3
> Pacific Ranger
> Vancouver, BC.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?

[David via CnC-List]

I very carefully drilled holes in all the walls and then very carefully sprayed 
foam inside the holes in measured amounts so as to not over expand and cause 
stress to the refrigerator walls which can break with the expanding foam 
pressures.  Best  could do.  No data as to improvements but I imagine it made a 
difference

>From my Android


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Allan Hester via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:54:59 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Allan Hester
Subject: Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?


Hi,

As one of my many winter projects, I am considering upgrading the insulation 
for the refrigeration unit on my 1989 C 35 Mk3.

The unit currently has a Nova Cool which works well and produces ice. My goal 
is to improve the insulation and hopefully reduce the energy required
to keep the fridge cold.

Does anyone know what type of insulation [if any] is behind the fiberglass 
walls?

Is there any insulation inside the lid?

Ideas on how to upgrade the insulation or perhaps C did a good job at the 
factory and there is no need to touch it?

Thanks in advance,

Al H.

1989 C 35 Mk 3
Pacific Ranger
Vancouver, BC.


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Stus-List Refrigeration insulation upgrade?

[Allan Hester via CnC-List]

Hi, 

As one of my many winter projects, I am considering upgrading the insulation 
for the refrigeration unit on my 1989 C 35 Mk3.

The unit currently has a Nova Cool which works well and produces ice. My goal 
is to improve the insulation and hopefully reduce the energy required 
to keep the fridge cold.

Does anyone know what type of insulation [if any] is behind the fiberglass 
walls?

Is there any insulation inside the lid?

Ideas on how to upgrade the insulation or perhaps C did a good job at the 
factory and there is no need to touch it? 

Thanks in advance,

Al H.

1989 C 35 Mk 3
Pacific Ranger
Vancouver, BC. 

   
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Re: Stus-List Cautiously optimistic re; Repair of PortaBote stern leaks

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Good along the toe rail too and arond the heads of the toe rail fasteners

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:35 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Score one for Dennis!  He has been the leader in touting Capt.
> Tolley's...I now use it religiously!
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596:
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane
> ,
> Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
> To: C List 
> Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
> Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 8:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List Cautiously optimistic re; Repair of PortaBote stern
> leaks
>
> Hello all,
>
> I thought I'd let you know that I am cautiously optimistic about a repair
> of leaks on my PortaBote.  It was leaking at the port and starboard corner
> of the transom as well as in the center joint.  Not a lot, but say half a
> gallon or so per hour when we were in the boat.
>
> I bought the larger bottle of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure:  Captain
> Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure 8oz Bottle
> 
>
> The manufacturer touts that it is thinner than water and penetrates cracks
> through capillary action.  I agree.  I assembled our PortaBote with
> exception of the transom board, and tipped it up against a fence to hold
> the boat at a 45 degree angle.  I then applied the sealant, dripping it
> down the joints both from the top of the transom and down the seams at the
> bottom of the boat.  Initially, I applied too much.
>
> Previously, I filled the boat up with water, and never saw water leaking
> out, but it would come in when we were in the boat.  When I applied the
> sealant and came back a few hours later, some of it had leaked out at the
> corner and center joints.  I let it cure overnight.  Then I did it again,
> and less leaked out.  It took about 5 applications, but finally it stopped
> leaking out, and I let it cure another couple days.  After the final cure,
> I poked around with my fingers and it felt very flexible, yet still a
> little sticky.
>
> We launched yesterday and took it for about an hour run.  NO leaks!
>
> I say "cautiously" optimistic, as I have not put it through a couple
> folding/assembling attempts and tests, but it seems good at this point.
>
> Thought you'd want to know,
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Engine oil

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Ditto for my Westerbeke 40.

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 3:37 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine oil

Shell Rotella, straight 30 weight. 

— Fred


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


  On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:30 PM, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I have been using Delo 30 in my Yanmar. 
  What you use?

  Fred Hazzard 
  S/V Fury 
  C 44
  Portland Or 
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Re: Stus-List Cautiously optimistic re; Repair of PortaBote stern leaks

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Score one for Dennis!  He has been the leader in touting Capt. Tolley's...I 
now use it religiously! 
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596:
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
To: C List 
Cc: Bruce Whitmore 
Sent: Fri, Nov 23, 2018 8:53 am
Subject: Stus-List Cautiously optimistic re; Repair of PortaBote stern leaks

Hello all, 

I thought I'd let you know that I am cautiously optimistic about a repair of 
leaks on my PortaBote.  It was leaking at the port and starboard corner of the 
transom as well as in the center joint.  Not a lot, but say half a gallon or so 
per hour when we were in the boat.  

I bought the larger bottle of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure:  Captain 
Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure 8oz Bottle

The manufacturer touts that it is thinner than water and penetrates cracks 
through capillary action.  I agree.  I assembled our PortaBote with exception 
of the transom board, and tipped it up against a fence to hold the boat at a 45 
degree angle.  I then applied the sealant, dripping it down the joints both 
from the top of the transom and down the seams at the bottom of the boat.  
Initially, I applied too much.  

Previously, I filled the boat up with water, and never saw water leaking out, 
but it would come in when we were in the boat.  When I applied the sealant and 
came back a few hours later, some of it had leaked out at the corner and center 
joints.  I let it cure overnight.  Then I did it again, and less leaked out.  
It took about 5 applications, but finally it stopped leaking out, and I let it 
cure another couple days.  After the final cure, I poked around with my fingers 
and it felt very flexible, yet still a little sticky.

We launched yesterday and took it for about an hour run.  NO leaks!
I say "cautiously" optimistic, as I have not put it through a couple 
folding/assembling attempts and tests, but it seems good at this point.
Thought you'd want to know,
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Stus-List Cautiously optimistic re; Repair of PortaBote stern leaks

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hello all, 

I thought I'd let you know that I am cautiously optimistic about a repair of 
leaks on my PortaBote.  It was leaking at the port and starboard corner of the 
transom as well as in the center joint.  Not a lot, but say half a gallon or so 
per hour when we were in the boat.  

I bought the larger bottle of Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure:  Captain 
Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure 8oz Bottle

The manufacturer touts that it is thinner than water and penetrates cracks 
through capillary action.  I agree.  I assembled our PortaBote with exception 
of the transom board, and tipped it up against a fence to hold the boat at a 45 
degree angle.  I then applied the sealant, dripping it down the joints both 
from the top of the transom and down the seams at the bottom of the boat.  
Initially, I applied too much.  

Previously, I filled the boat up with water, and never saw water leaking out, 
but it would come in when we were in the boat.  When I applied the sealant and 
came back a few hours later, some of it had leaked out at the corner and center 
joints.  I let it cure overnight.  Then I did it again, and less leaked out.  
It took about 5 applications, but finally it stopped leaking out, and I let it 
cure another couple days.  After the final cure, I poked around with my fingers 
and it felt very flexible, yet still a little sticky.

We launched yesterday and took it for about an hour run.  NO leaks!
I say "cautiously" optimistic, as I have not put it through a couple 
folding/assembling attempts and tests, but it seems good at this point.
Thought you'd want to know,
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
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Re: Stus-List Refrigeration units

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

I have the adler barber cold machine in Alianna its a good unit now 20 or
more years old still workin good never serviced. Best to insulate the ice
box well thats not too easy and i have not done a complete job at that part
It draws about 5 amps so i cycle it on and off and always on when under
engine power. It will make ice cubes thats good

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:49 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I've been happy with the PO's installation of a Alder-Barbour cold
> machine, similar to the one seen in the link below.  These are extremely
> common units.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/ADLER-BARBOUR-COLD-MACHINE-/183539623085
>
> The Danfoss compressor used in this unit is fairly ubiquitous.  Though not
> bomb proof they have a long history of parts, troubleshooting, and repair.
> They are used by many different manufacturers and packaged under different
> names.
>
> http://www.kollmann-marine.com/techtips.aspx
>
> They can almost all be installed DIY.  They come pre-charged from the
> factory and the fittings are supposed to be zero-loss so charging after
> install is not required.  I would suggest getting a stainless lobster
> controller along with the purchase.  This will give a lot more insight to
> the operation and efficiency of the unit.
>
> https://stainlesslobster.com/product/buy-fridge-optimizer
>
> The rep from Nova-Cool (also a Danfoss compressor) stated that their
> systems could typically be maintained with a 100w solar panel and
> appropriately matched battery system.  A small circulation fan in the
> fridge, adequate fresh air across the condenser, and added spray foam
> insulation around the fridge are key improvements to ensure max efficiency.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 6:55 AM Rod Stright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
>> Considering installing a refrigeration unit in the ice box on my C 99.
>> Do mostly racing and some occasional cruising.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rod Stright
>> C 99
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 22, 2018 6:55 AM, "Rod Stright via CnC-List" 
> wrote:
>
> Considering installing a refrigeration unit in the ice box on my C 99.
> Do mostly racing and some occasional cruising.
>
> Regards
> Rod Stright
> C 99
>
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