Re: Stus-List Fuel guage issue
Hi all; I took the gauge panel apart to see why the fuel gauge wasn't working; when I checked the connections, it worked fine; however, when I went to put everything back together, the front piece of the fuel gauge, (clear plastic, within a black plastic ring) came off of the whole assembly and I cannot find a way to re-connect it; there are no screw spirals, or tabs or anything, I believe it simply broke off; I checked the Yanmar Operation Manual and the Yanmar parts catalogue and neither even mentions a fuel gauge; the boat is 1985 37;Engine is Yanmar, model 3HMF, 3-cylinder; original to boat; So, what say ye...is it repairable, or should I look for a new gauge..and if so, what kind Thank you in advance, and please let me know if you need more info... Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List New Sails...
Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me... Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List New Sails...
About two years ago I bought a NorDac main from North. It is a different kind of dacron, and is very heavy and cumbersome. Mine was cut incorrectly, and has since been re-cut. It looks much better now and seems to be performing acceptably, but I would not recommend it due to its bulk and clumsiness. The local sailmaker in Erie recently figured out a way to cost-effectively make a relatively low stretch dacron main. Dave Bierig (Bierig Sailmakers), (814) 459-9600. I would not ask Dave to make a racing genoa these days, but if I were buying a dacron main for my 42 today, I would ask him to make it. I suspect his reconfigured main is relatively fast and a great value. He’s approaching retirement, so you might need to twist his arm. Matt Wolford From: David Risch via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:36 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch Subject: Stus-List New Sails... Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel guage issue
I replaced ours with one from West Marine due to being an a bit of a rush to get it fixed. I could have ordered a similar one online for less. Pretty cheap and it measures fine despite cautions online about having to match sender impedance.They really are pretty standard units.Bruce Whitmore1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis"Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Richard Bush via CnC-List Date: 1/15/20 5:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Bush Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel guage issue Hi all; I took the gauge panel apart to see why the fuel gauge wasn't working; when I checked the connections, it worked fine; however, when I went to put everything back together, the front piece of the fuel gauge, (clear plastic, within a black plastic ring) came off of the whole assembly and I cannot find a way to re-connect it; there are no screw spirals, or tabs or anything, I believe it simply broke off; I checked the Yanmar Operation Manual and the Yanmar parts catalogue and neither even mentions a fuel gauge; the boat is 1985 37; Engine is Yanmar, model 3HMF, 3-cylinder; original to boat; So, what say ye...is it repairable, or should I look for a new gauge..and if so, what kind Thank you in advance, and please let me know if you need more info... Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Fuel guage issue
Mine fell apart as you described. Burnished the top edge and epoxy the face back on a couple of years ago. Still holding together and operating. Don Kern Fireball C&C 35 mk2 On 1/15/2020 5:22 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List wrote: Hi all; I took the gauge panel apart to see why the fuel gauge wasn't working; when I checked the connections, it worked fine; however, when I went to put everything back together, the front piece of the fuel gauge, (clear plastic, within a black plastic ring) came off of the whole assembly and I cannot find a way to re-connect it; there are no screw spirals, or tabs or anything, I believe it simply broke off; I checked the Yanmar Operation Manual and the Yanmar parts catalogue and neither even mentions a fuel gauge; the boat is 1985 37; Engine is Yanmar, model 3HMF, 3-cylinder; original to boat; So, what say ye...is it repairable, or should I look for a new gauge..and if so, what kind Thank you in advance, and please let me know if you need more info... Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List New Sails...
David I have a Hood Vectron main that I bought for racing in 2007. It is now my cruising sail and still has reasonable shape and would recommend it. A J30 skipper was so impressed with it that he bought one for cruising (Vectron was not class legal for racing on a J30). However, since the Hood loft got bought by Quantum (2017) I do not know if the cloth would still be available, It was last year but I had to ask the Loft. I have attached a fairly technical exploitation on sailcloths and below is a newer article found in Practical Sailor: https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/sailmakers-advice-and-prices Don Kern Fireball C&C 35 Mk2 On 1/15/2020 5:36 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote: Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. */David F. Risch/* */(401) 419-4650/* ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Sailcloth 101.docx Description: MS-Word 2007 document ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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We always had North Sails on Zoomer and the Jib’s were 3DL on the #1 but the 2 and 3 were Dacron then Kevlar reinforced. Main was Dacron but radial cut, not cross cut. They lasted at least 7 years with regular buoy racing. Did you talk to Ben Sperry? He’s still sailing with Dacron on Gentian and does very well both in distance an buoy events. Plus he’s very local. Cheers, Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 1983 35 LF Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2020, at 5:37 PM, David Risch via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… > > Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget > item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. > Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main > and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier > to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on > those years ago > > Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as > C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your > experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% > swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many > sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is > an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with > the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. > > Thanks in advance. > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List New Sails...
I googled the address that my precision sail came from and the top result was for quantum sails oddly enough...Thanks, Danny Original message From: David Risch via CnC-List Date: 1/15/20 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch Subject: Stus-List New Sails... Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 Toenail Fungus: 1 Cup of This Will "Get Rid" of It funguseliminator.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5e1faf6c6c8a52f6b0b3bst03vuc___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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David, I purchased new Dacron cruising sails (main and 135% genoa) for our 34 last spring for the 2019 season. After getting quotes and discussing it with several suppliers including North Sails and Precision I decided to go with Doyle Sails in Salem MA. Chris Howes at Doyle worked with me on the quote and throughout the process. It was a positive experience and I am very pleased with the end result. I would highly recommend Doyle as a local MA sail loft. We selected the Durasail product line for the main and genoa - both using cross cut Dacron. In the case of the main, they used a 7.62 oz HA (high aspect) material which is designed to take the additional vertical load from the aspect ratio of the sail. I think that it has more fiber in the vertical direction than the horizontal direction. The new sail was designed with a loose foot which really helps with making the outhaul effective. Four full battens, two sets of reef points and attachment of the luff track slides from my old sail were all included. The Genoa is 7.77 oz “Marblehead constructed” and included a sun cover and luff flatter for reefing by partial furling were included. The sun cover on the furling genoa is a relatively thin material that is white and unlike Sunbrella doesn’t weigh down the sail significantly - it is hard to notice it is there if you are not looking for it. They also included sail bags and a full collection of sail ties, C&C logo and pre-installed a complete set of tell-tails on both sails! The set of main and genoa cost around $5000 + tax if I remember correctly for my boat - your boat is larger and it is a year later so presumably will be more. Doyle makes sails both in Salem and in Jamaica. I specifically requested that they make the sails locally in Salem and they were fine with doing that (and didn’t charge a premium). I was able to take my old sails to their loft to have them measured and I picked up the new sails at the same location so there wasn’t any shipping charge (did have to pay MA sales tax of course). Also Doyle finished the sails significantly earlier than they quoted me and well before the start of the season. I also appreciated that they took me seriously and gave really good customer service even though this was a small order for them (at least judging by what they had going on in the loft at the time). North sails quote was initially a lot more although they came down quite a bit (to just slightly more than Doyle’s price) when the sales person learned of the price point I had selected - but they also had a long lead time quoted that would have been well into the middle of the season for us. Hint - it can be worth pitting one maker against another - they seem to have some ability to adjust pricing so negotiating is definitely an option. Precision’s base quote came in much cheeper than Doyle although by time you add in all the extra’s to the same rough quality and components provided by Doyle, it is unclear if it would have been less expensive (it was hard to make an apples to apples comparison since they were using different materials and the details were different). Precision charges separately for each “additional" thing including reinforcements, reef points, etc. - all of that is included by default from Doyle. Overall I really appreciated the service and knowledge of having a local loft do the work and I also liked supporting the local economy. I would definitely go with Doyle again next time I need a sail. New sails are great to have and after one season on the boat they still look and feel almost new so I think that they will last a long time! That’s my two cents, Nathan S/V Wisper 1981 C&C 34 Lynn, MA___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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FYI, I have dealt with both Doyle and North, and I prefer Doyle. The best rag on my boat is a Doyle 153% genoa (not dacron, however). From: Nathan Post via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nathan Post Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails... David, I purchased new Dacron cruising sails (main and 135% genoa) for our 34 last spring for the 2019 season. After getting quotes and discussing it with several suppliers including North Sails and Precision I decided to go with Doyle Sails in Salem MA. Chris Howes at Doyle worked with me on the quote and throughout the process. It was a positive experience and I am very pleased with the end result. I would highly recommend Doyle as a local MA sail loft. We selected the Durasail product line for the main and genoa - both using cross cut Dacron. In the case of the main, they used a 7.62 oz HA (high aspect) material which is designed to take the additional vertical load from the aspect ratio of the sail. I think that it has more fiber in the vertical direction than the horizontal direction. The new sail was designed with a loose foot which really helps with making the outhaul effective. Four full battens, two sets of reef points and attachment of the luff track slides from my old sail were all included. The Genoa is 7.77 oz “Marblehead constructed” and included a sun cover and luff flatter for reefing by partial furling were included. The sun cover on the furling genoa is a relatively thin material that is white and unlike Sunbrella doesn’t weigh down the sail significantly - it is hard to notice it is there if you are not looking for it. They also included sail bags and a full collection of sail ties, C&C logo and pre-installed a complete set of tell-tails on both sails! The set of main and genoa cost around $5000 + tax if I remember correctly for my boat - your boat is larger and it is a year later so presumably will be more. Doyle makes sails both in Salem and in Jamaica. I specifically requested that they make the sails locally in Salem and they were fine with doing that (and didn’t charge a premium). I was able to take my old sails to their loft to have them measured and I picked up the new sails at the same location so there wasn’t any shipping charge (did have to pay MA sales tax of course). Also Doyle finished the sails significantly earlier than they quoted me and well before the start of the season. I also appreciated that they took me seriously and gave really good customer service even though this was a small order for them (at least judging by what they had going on in the loft at the time). North sails quote was initially a lot more although they came down quite a bit (to just slightly more than Doyle’s price) when the sales person learned of the price point I had selected - but they also had a long lead time quoted that would have been well into the middle of the season for us. Hint - it can be worth pitting one maker against another - they seem to have some ability to adjust pricing so negotiating is definitely an option. Precision’s base quote came in much cheeper than Doyle although by time you add in all the extra’s to the same rough quality and components provided by Doyle, it is unclear if it would have been less expensive (it was hard to make an apples to apples comparison since they were using different materials and the details were different). Precision charges separately for each “additional" thing including reinforcements, reef points, etc. - all of that is included by default from Doyle. Overall I really appreciated the service and knowledge of having a local loft do the work and I also liked supporting the local economy. I would definitely go with Doyle again next time I need a sail. New sails are great to have and after one season on the boat they still look and feel almost new so I think that they will last a long time! That’s my two cents, Nathan S/V Wisper 1981 C&C 34 Lynn, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List New Sails...
David, its a good question; I purchased new Main and 135% from Doyle, St. Petersburg, FL loft and am happy with them; dacron white sails, no racing, no oceans crossings on my horizon ... Price was reasonable; we had to do many conversations and photos via phone, and I had to do all of the measurements, because of the distance...there are no sail makers or outlets anywhere near us...: a Chicago North loft quoted staggering prices, so I looked elsewhere; I can see where having a person on board that can see and measure the boat personally would be a great benefit. Richard s.v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37, CB Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Sent: Wed, Jan 15, 2020 9:33 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails... FYI, I have dealt with both Doyle and North, and I prefer Doyle. The best rag on my boat is a Doyle 153% genoa (not dacron, however). From: Nathan Post via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:20 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Nathan Post Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails... David, I purchased new Dacron cruising sails (main and 135% genoa) for our 34 last spring for the 2019 season. After getting quotes and discussing it with several suppliers including North Sails and Precision I decided to go with Doyle Sails in Salem MA. Chris Howes at Doyle worked with me on the quote and throughout the process. It was a positive experience and I am very pleased with the end result. I would highly recommend Doyle as a local MA sail loft. We selected the Durasail product line for the main and genoa - both using cross cut Dacron. In the case of the main, they used a 7.62 oz HA (high aspect) material which is designed to take the additional vertical load from the aspect ratio of the sail. I think that it has more fiber in the vertical direction than the horizontal direction. The new sail was designed with a loose foot which really helps with making the outhaul effective. Four full battens, two sets of reef points and attachment of the luff track slides from my old sail were all included. The Genoa is 7.77 oz “Marblehead constructed” and included a sun cover and luff flatter for reefing by partial furling were included. The sun cover on the furling genoa is a relatively thin material that is white and unlike Sunbrella doesn’t weigh down the sail significantly - it is hard to notice it is there if you are not looking for it. They also included sail bags and a full collection of sail ties, C&C logo and pre-installed a complete set of tell-tails on both sails! The set of main and genoa cost around $5000 + tax if I remember correctly for my boat - your boat is larger and it is a year later so presumably will be more. Doyle makes sails both in Salem and in Jamaica. I specifically requested that they make the sails locally in Salem and they were fine with doing that (and didn’t charge a premium). I was able to take my old sails to their loft to have them measured and I picked up the new sails at the same location so there wasn’t any shipping charge (did have to pay MA sales tax of course). Also Doyle finished the sails significantly earlier than they quoted me and well before the start of the season. I also appreciated that they took me seriously and gave really good customer service even though this was a small order for them (at least judging by what they had going on in the loft at the time). North sails quote was initially a lot more although they came down quite a bit (to just slightly more than Doyle’s price) when the sales person learned of the price point I had selected - but they also had a long lead time quoted that would have been well into the middle of the season for us. Hint - it can be worth pitting one maker against another - they seem to have some ability to adjust pricing so negotiating is definitely an option. Precision’s base quote came in much cheeper than Doyle although by time you add in all the extra’s to the same rough quality and components provided by Doyle, it is unclear if it would have been less expensive (it was hard to make an apples to apples comparison since they were using different materials and the details were different). Precision charges separately for each “additional" thing including reinforcements, reef points, etc. - all of that is included by default from Doyle. Overall I really appreciated the service and knowledge of having a local loft do the work and I also liked supporting the local economy. I would definitely go with Doyle again next time I need a sail. New sails are great to have and after one season on the boat they still look and feel almost new so I think that they will last a long time! That’s my two cents,Nathan S/V Wisper 1981 C&C 34Lynn, MA__
Re: Stus-List New Sails...
David, We have sails on order with the UK loft for spring delivery for our C&C 35-3. UK is building a 140% Genoa of 7.3 oz high modulus dacron with a foam luff, UV sun shield, sail numbers and tell tail windows. The main is 8.3 oz high mod with 4 full battens, 2 reef points, sail numbers, C&C logo and cunningham. UK will transfer all of the Tides Strongtrack hardware to the new main. Both come with sail bags. We had a UK Genoa and North Main on our Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1). The North took three tries to get it right. It was a good sail when they finally got it right bit it was frustrating. The UK sail was perfect out of the bag. Both of the sails are still flying on Joe Della Barba's C&C 35-1. Our sails are being finished in the Chicago loft. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 1/15/2020 5:36 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote: Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. */David F. Risch/* */(401) 419-4650/* ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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I just bought a new main from evolution sails. It's a kiwi based company but their local rep in Chicago really took his time to work through things. Was less than quantum but more than precision for a similar sail. I got a racing laminate from their element line for my 35-3 but they also offer white sails. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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Echoing Neil’s comments about North – at least in recent years -- not only was the NorDac main on my boat less than stellar, another boat in my local fleet had a similar issue (North ended up replacing the main on that boat) and my next door neighbor (cruiser) had an issue with his NorDac genoa. New to my boat this past summer was a North spinnaker. The local North rep was on board when we raised it and saw three numerals for the sail number instead of five. They are fixing the sail number over the winter (not sure how without messing up a brand new sail). The bottom line: given the prices charged by North, the sails should be near perfect (no mistakes) out of the bag. In my view, they are too expensive and have gotten too big for “regular” sailors like me. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom From: schiller via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: schiller Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sails... David, We have sails on order with the UK loft for spring delivery for our C&C 35-3. UK is building a 140% Genoa of 7.3 oz high modulus dacron with a foam luff, UV sun shield, sail numbers and tell tail windows. The main is 8.3 oz high mod with 4 full battens, 2 reef points, sail numbers, C&C logo and cunningham. UK will transfer all of the Tides Strongtrack hardware to the new main. Both come with sail bags. We had a UK Genoa and North Main on our Redwing 35 (C&C 35-1). The North took three tries to get it right. It was a good sail when they finally got it right bit it was frustrating. The UK sail was perfect out of the bag. Both of the sails are still flying on Joe Della Barba's C&C 35-1. Our sails are being finished in the Chicago loft. Neil Schiller 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace" Whitehall, Michigan WLYC On 1/15/2020 5:36 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote: Hello, I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me… Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can. Main and 125%. Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair and I do not want to get into the laminates. Blew a big budget on those years ago Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C & C have tall skinny mains (especially the 40). What has been your experiences with the differing sail lofts? I am getting prices with 50% swings and that is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built in the same lofts overseas and re-branded. I am sure that is an over-simplification, but there it is. Difficult to compare pricing with the cloth specs being a foreign language to me. Thanks in advance. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
