Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

If they're slipping on ST winches, that means that they're also slipping
through the tailer. :Perhaps the lines are worn so that they are too small
diameter for the tailer. Also, there are four machine screws and springs
holding the tailer halves together. Those screws should be screwed all the
way down.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:08 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
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> Interested charlie what shop ? I was.blaming  the VPC line but they could
> use a little knurling?
> Thanks !
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> www.flirtingwithfire.net
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> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Most likely the drums are worn smooth and do not provide enough friction
> to hold the line.
>
> I took all my drums to a local machine shop and they ‘re-knurled’ all of
> them for $30 each. You can even choose the knurl ‘pattern’—simple vertical,
> diamond, etc.
>
> Just be careful that the shop is not too aggressive with them since such a
> knurl can chew up the line!
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
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> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> That directory doesn’t seem to have Barient 21-33 unless they are listed
> as a different size.
> I’m not sure the exact diameter of the lines but all seem to fill the
> tailers appropriately. I'd guess the Main halyard is around 11mm. Is there
> info somewhere that has the recommended size? Do the drums need knurling or
> something?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:31 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top
> Barient 21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked
> snuggly into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could
> it be that all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
> Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it
> on the L-36 site
> 
> .
> thanks all!
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

It’s the Winterville Machine Shop—they do a lot of custom work for DuPont in 
Kinston (I think they ‘spun off’ from DuPont back in the day!
Their facility is on Mill St. In ‘downtown’ Winterville—I don’t have a phone 
number for them. Call them early—at least in the summertime they start about 
4:00 AM and the place closes about noon!

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 On Thursday, August 6, 2020, John Conklin via CnC-List  
wrote:

Interested charlie what shop ? I was.blaming  the VPC line but they could use a 
little knurling?Thanks !

John ConklinS/V Halcyonwww.flirtingwithfire.net


On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Most likely the drums are worn smooth and do not provide enough friction to 
hold the line.
I took all my drums to a local machine shop and they ‘re-knurled’ all of them 
for $30 each. You can even choose the knurl ‘pattern’—simple vertical, diamond, 
etc.
Just be careful that the shop is not too aggressive with them since such a 
knurl can chew up the line!
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC 36 XL/kcb


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On Thursday, August 6, 2020, rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

That directory doesn’t seem to have Barient 21-33 unless they are listed as a 
different size.I’m not sure the exact diameter of the lines but all seem to 
fill the tailers appropriately. I'd guess the Main halyard is around 11mm. Is 
there info somewhere that has the recommended size? Do the drums need knurling 
or something?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:31 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top Barient 
21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked snuggly 
into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could it be that 
all of the drums happen to have lost their grip? Lastly, does anyone have the 
service manual for these? I couldn't find it on the L-36 site. thanks all!

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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I usually have to add two more wraps with Touche's VPC sheets and
halyards.  VPC is definitely slipperier than most.

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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:08 PM John Conklin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Interested charlie what shop ? I was.blaming  the VPC line but they could
> use a little knurling?
> Thanks !
>
> John Conklin
> S/V Halcyon
> www.flirtingwithfire.net
>
>
> --
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[John Conklin via CnC-List]

Interested charlie what shop ? I was.blaming  the VPC line but they could use a 
little knurling?
Thanks !

John Conklin
S/V Halcyon
www.flirtingwithfire.net


On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Most likely the drums are worn smooth and do not provide enough friction to 
hold the line.

I took all my drums to a local machine shop and they ‘re-knurled’ all of them 
for $30 each. You can even choose the knurl ‘pattern’—simple vertical, diamond, 
etc.

Just be careful that the shop is not too aggressive with them since such a 
knurl can chew up the line!

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb



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On Thursday, August 6, 2020, rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

That directory doesn’t seem to have Barient 21-33 unless they are listed as a 
different size.
I’m not sure the exact diameter of the lines but all seem to fill the tailers 
appropriately. I'd guess the Main halyard is around 11mm. Is there info 
somewhere that has the recommended size? Do the drums need knurling or 
something?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:31 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top Barient 
21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked snuggly 
into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could it be that 
all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it on 
the L-36 site.
thanks all!


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S/V Blue Pearl
C 37/40+
Port Washington, NY
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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

Most likely the drums are worn smooth and do not provide enough friction to 
hold the line.
I took all my drums to a local machine shop and they ‘re-knurled’ all of them 
for $30 each. You can even choose the knurl ‘pattern’—simple vertical, diamond, 
etc.
Just be careful that the shop is not too aggressive with them since such a 
knurl can chew up the line!
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC 36 XL/kcb


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 On Thursday, August 6, 2020, rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

That directory doesn’t seem to have Barient 21-33 unless they are listed as a 
different size.I’m not sure the exact diameter of the lines but all seem to 
fill the tailers appropriately. I'd guess the Main halyard is around 11mm. Is 
there info somewhere that has the recommended size? Do the drums need knurling 
or something?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:31 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top Barient 
21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked snuggly 
into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could it be that 
all of the drums happen to have lost their grip? Lastly, does anyone have the 
service manual for these? I couldn't find it on the L-36 site. thanks all!

-- 
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NY___

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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

That directory doesn’t seem to have Barient 21-33 unless they are listed as
a different size.
I’m not sure the exact diameter of the lines but all seem to fill the
tailers appropriately. I'd guess the Main halyard is around 11mm. Is there
info somewhere that has the recommended size? Do the drums need knurling or
something?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:31 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top
>> Barient 21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked
>> snuggly into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could
>> it be that all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
>> Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it
>> on the L-36 site .
>> thanks all!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rockland Bazemore
>> S/V Blue Pearl
>> C 37/40+
>> Port Washington, NY
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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[ed vanderkruk via CnC-List]

The Stu's site has a winch directory.

http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/


Ed

On Thu., Aug. 6, 2020, 9:28 a.m. rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top
> Barient 21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked
> snuggly into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could
> it be that all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
> Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it
> on the L-36 site .
> thanks all!
>
>
> --
> Rockland Bazemore
> S/V Blue Pearl
> C 37/40+
> Port Washington, NY
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Re: Stus-List Barients Slipping

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Is the line slipping or is the drum rotating?  What diameter line?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:28 AM rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top
> Barient 21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked
> snuggly into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could
> it be that all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
> Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it
> on the L-36 site .
> thanks all!
>
>
> --
> Rockland Bazemore
> S/V Blue Pearl
> C 37/40+
> Port Washington, NY
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Stus-List Barients Slipping

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

It's almost like I'm doing something wrong because all of my cabin top
Barient 21-33 ST winches seem to let the line slip even with 4 wraps tucked
snuggly into the tailer. Putting up the main and reefing is a bear. Could
it be that all of the drums happen to have lost their grip?
Lastly, does anyone have the service manual for these? I couldn't find it
on the L-36 site .
thanks all!


-- 
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S/V Blue Pearl
C 37/40+
Port Washington, NY
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Re: Stus-List speedometer - C 35 Mk2

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Only if the coating increases friction and reduces the ability to 
turn freely then Yup. it could.


I lost a magnet a few decades ago, probably hit an small object as it 
looked "chipped out".


Cheers, Russ


At 06:39 AM 8/5/2020, you wrote:



Would coating the paddlewheel with anhydrous lanolin screw up the readings?

David F. Risch
401-419-4650

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Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Re: Stus-List speedometer - C 35 Mk2

Two.
Bill Coleman

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 8:26 PM Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


What is the number o' magnets supposed you be on the paddle-wheel? 
If it is more than one then one is missing,


Cheers, Russ



At 09:57 AM 8/4/2020, you wrote:

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One possible thing is the calibration is way off.

Joe

Coquina
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