Stus-List Re: South Puget Sound Boat Yard Recommendations?

[Tom Buscaglia]

Kevin

I'm pretty sure you have a 30-2...if so, Tim 
Seppala at the Burton Boatyard, adjacent to the 
Quartermaster Marina, might be the most 
economical and convenient option for you.  He did 
all of the work on my old 35 MK 1 and does good 
work at a good price.  His phone numbers are 
206.463.6213 or 206.713.2532 to check.  If you do 
decide to go there, let me know.  I live near the 
marina and can give you a lift to the Telequah ferry.


Tom B

At 10:53 AM 9/30/2020, you wrote:

Hi Puget Sound Sailors,Â
Does anyone have a recommendation for somewhere 
to get bottom paint and a prop changed out in or 
near South Puget Sound? We keep our boat in Gig 
Harbor. I do have a quote from Gig Harbor Boat 
Marina & Boatyard, but wanted to get another quote before proceeding.Â

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SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Stus-List Re: South Puget Sound Boat Yard Recommendations?

[Tom Buscaglia]

Kevin

A fellow from our club on Vashon got beat up 
pretty bad at the Gig Harbor marina.  I use CRS 
in Des Moines.  They do my bottom paint and allow 
me to come on site to do the topsides and prop 
cleaning.  Tell Paul I said hi...


Aside from the PITA in getting there and back by 
car, it is well worth the hassle.


Tom B

At 10:53 AM 9/30/2020, you wrote:

Hi Puget Sound Sailors,Â
Does anyone have a recommendation for somewhere 
to get bottom paint and a prop changed out in or 
near South Puget Sound? We keep our boat in Gig 
Harbor. I do have a quote from Gig Harbor Boat 
Marina & Boatyard, but wanted to get another quote before proceeding.Â

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SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Stus-List South Puget Sound Boat Yard Recommendations?

[Kevin Driscoll]

Hi Puget Sound Sailors,
Does anyone have a recommendation for somewhere to get bottom paint and a
prop changed out in or near South Puget Sound? We keep our boat in Gig
Harbor. I do have a quote from Gig Harbor Boat Marina & Boatyard, but
wanted to get another quote before proceeding.
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Stus-List Nexus Classic instruments on eBay

[Dennis C.]

There's a complete set of Nexus Classic instruments on eBay for any
interested.

eBay item number 274512517265

-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C 30 MK1

[Tom Buscaglia]

I'm a pirate...

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660



On Sep 29, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Peter Fell  wrote:


I'm curious .. with the tank on the stern rail 
as pictured, how are the ABYC requirements fulfilled?



1.  LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating 
equipment, and safety devices shall be readily 
accessible, secured for sea conditions, and 
protected from the weather and against 
mechanical damage  i.e. your tank and (I assume 
regulator, gauge and solenoid) are unprotected.
2.  installed in a ventilated location on the 
exterior of the boat where escaping gases will 
flow directly overboard i.e. just as much chance to flow into the cockpit.
3. A relief valve’s point of discharge shall 
be at least 20 inches (508mm) distant from any 
opening to a cabin or the hull interior. i.e. 
your tank is right next to the blower intake (or exhaust, I'm not sure which).


Don't get me wrong, I've wrestled with the same 
issues and it is near impossible to meet all 
requirements in a retrofit. My propane system 
isn't connected right now, until I have a better 
plan in place (and my composite tank is expired anyway).


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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C 30 MK1

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

In the case of an outboard-mounted propane tank for a high-guality rail-mounted 
gas grill (like Magma), the pressure regulator is part of the gas grill and is 
protected from the weather by the grill housing.  (There might be cheaper 
grills on the market where this is not the case.)

For aluminum tanks, there is nothing that will corrode seriously in the 
weather.  It seems like if you could protect an external regulator and solenoid 
from the weather, all the requirements could be met.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:53 PM, Peter Fell  wrote:
> 
> 
>> I'm curious .. with the tank on the stern rail as pictured, how are the ABYC 
>> requirements fulfilled?
> 
> 1.  LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment, and safety devices 
> shall be readily accessible, secured for sea conditions, and protected from 
> the weather and against mechanical damage  i.e. your tank and (I assume 
> regulator, gauge and solenoid) are unprotected.
> 2.  installed in a ventilated location on the exterior of the boat where 
> escaping gases will flow directly overboard i.e. just as much chance to flow 
> into the cockpit.
> 3. A relief valve’s point of discharge shall be at least 20 inches (508mm) 
> distant from any opening to a cabin or the hull interior. i.e. your tank is 
> right next to the blower intake (or exhaust, I'm not sure which).
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I've wrestled with the same issues and it is near 
> impossible to meet all requirements in a retrofit. My propane system isn't 
> connected right now, until I have a better plan in place (and my composite 
> tank is expired anyway).
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Stus-List Re: Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s

[Joel Delamirande]

Wow that quite a crack
I can’t help in that department
What size of boat are you looking for?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 4:47 PM  wrote:

> I looked at a boat yesterday that seemed like a good contender for a
> “next” boat, right up until just prior to leaving I looked more closely at
> the keel and found something that does not look particularly good.  I am
> hoping for some sage advice from the list, as in a) walk away, or b) might
> be repaired, and if so what would be entailed and is it worth it.  This
> would have to be on the current owner’s tab, or a very hefty discount in
> the price.
>
>
>
> I tried to attach low res pics but that exceeded the list max message
> size, so here is a link I hope works:
>
>
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNHJ22k8kS3ukfBzXz67enViRMDw3GAOASwiS49uupKViTIDFeNzLj1LE_pav81Yw?key=QkR1X0FXWlgyclBzY1JYcUtIckRJRGh3dzIyMURR
>
>
>
> The keel has a fairly significant crack extending at least 18” aft from
> the leading edge.  [The bottom was recently painted and I did not try to
> follow it further aft.]  That gap [in the attached photos] is at least 3/8”
> on the horizontal axis and about ¼” on the vertical.  The trailing edge has
> some cracks which are not overly visible, again due to the bottom paint.
> Unfortunately I did not look closely at / around the keel bolts, nor do I
> have any internal photos, as I noticed this after the boat was closed up.
> The boat is 4 ½ hours away so getting more photos is not feasible.
>
>
>
> To my untrained eye it appears there was a hard grounding and the keel
> almost seems to have shifted aft in addition to down, based on the angle of
> the line from the fairing of the hull down to the leading edge of the
> keel.  But there does not appear to be any movement aft at the trailing
> edge, though possibly it was punched up.  This does not appear to be along
> the sump / keel joint as the crack is angled upwards and is not
> horizontal.  The owner claims there have been no hard groundings when asked
> directly, only a handful of soft groundings, predominantly in sand, but I
> have read even that can do damage.  The boat was recently under contract
> and surveyed and that buyer decided against going forward.  The reasons
> given by the broker did not include any mention of damage revealed during
> the survey.  I do not have a copy of that buyers survey.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts on what would need to be done to remedy this, or am I better
> off to move on and keep looking?  Should the keel be dropped and the keel
> bolts examined?  Or would there be other, less intrusive / expensive fixes
> which would be sufficient and safe?  I realize it is difficult to really
> determine the best repair without physically examining the boat but any
> advice on what likely would be required is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
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> --
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Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C 30 MK1

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

It isn’t perfect, but like about a million other boats with propane grills, I 
have a propane tank hanging off the stern anyway, so you might think of it as 
10 pounds instead of 2 pounds. Back when I was working on boats it was that or 
nothing, there was no other way really to put propane on without a 
multi-thousand dollar construction project on many older boats.
This is one reason CNG got invented.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: Peter Fell [mailto:prf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:14 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Propane Locker - C 30 MK1

I'm curious .. with the tank on the stern rail as pictured, how are the ABYC 
requirements fulfilled?

1.  LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment, and safety devices 
shall be readily accessible, secured for sea conditions, and protected from the 
weather and against mechanical damage  i.e. your tank and (I assume regulator, 
gauge and solenoid) are unprotected.
2.  installed in a ventilated location on the exterior of the boat where 
escaping gases will flow directly overboard i.e. just as much chance to flow 
into the cockpit.
3. A relief valve’s point of discharge shall be at least 20 inches (508mm) 
distant from any opening to a cabin or the hull interior. i.e. your tank is 
right next to the blower intake (or exhaust, I'm not sure which).

Don't get me wrong, I've wrestled with the same issues and it is near 
impossible to meet all requirements in a retrofit. My propane system isn't 
connected right now, until I have a better plan in place (and my composite tank 
is expired anyway).
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