Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Andrew Burton]

Martin, re the enthusiasm of C&C owners for their boats:
I think that may well be because C&Cs are essentially Canadian-built Swans.
They are better all around than most other production boats; they are
certainly better looking than most--Bob Perry raves about how well Rob Ball
drew the decks and how well they look with the hull lines. We all want to
take care of a thing of beauty and don't begrudge the time and effort.
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA 02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/

phone  +401 965 5260


On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 1:45 AM Martin DeYoung 
wrote:

> Peter,
>
>
>
> I lusted after the 43s since the mid 70’s.  The first time I recall seeing
> one I was “rail meat” on a C&C 39 (circa 1977) sailing upwind on Puget
> Sound and the black hulled 43 Epic caught and passed us easily.
>
> Fast forward to the summer of 1998 and I am anchored somewhere in the San
> Juan Island on our 1980 C&C36 and the same 43 Epic motors by on it way out
> of the anchorage.  This rekindled my interest.  By the end of 1998 we had
> sold the 36 and purchased the 43.
>
>
>
> The 43s are great sailing boats, very well behaved (with the deeper
> rudder) and sea kindly.  I have done +-60K miles on many different, mostly
> racing boats in all kinds of weather and seas.  I would comfortable sailing
> a 43 anywhere north of 40 South and South of 65 North.
>
>
>
> Re “…a labor of love..” It seems the C&C designs have a stronger following
> and a more passionate ownership group than most other racer/cruiser brands.
> This includes owners that are not active on the list that I run into around
> the PNW.  I have talked with C&C owners with projects that make my efforts
> seem lightweight.  It is rare I see the same enthusiasm from the owners of
> other brands below the Swan level.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Peter Kirkwood 
> *Sent: *Friday, December 4, 2020 5:16 AM
> *To: *Stus-List 
> *Subject: *Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Have nearly finished a 1977 38 Mark 2 and had to do about 75% of the deck.
> It’s a labor of love for sure.
>
>
>
> I’ve always loved the 43 and growing up sailing in Oakville I got to see
> many of them launched for the first time. They are just great sailing
> boats.
>
>
>
> Peter Kirkwood
>
> 1977 38-2
>
> Renaissance VI
>
> Oakville ON
>
> Canada
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:03 AM Matthew  wrote:
>
> Martin:
>
>
>
> My 1976 42 Custom is a Bruckman boat, probably similar to
> yours on deck and down below (probably not the keel, which they were
> straightening out during the 70s).  I’m also involved in many projects and
> upgrades.  Keep going.
>
>
>
> Matt Wolford
>
> Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* Martin DeYoung 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 03, 2020 9:06 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I
> got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to
> Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
> recap:
>
>
>
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
> her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>
>
>
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There
> was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>
>
>
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.
> We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
> completion will pick up considerably.
>
>
>
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest.
> The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
>  I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs
> from the early 70’s.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C

Stus-List Re: 1990 C&C 34+ gel coat color match

[Stephen Thorne]

Folks - I need to repaint the transom of our 1990 C&C 34+.Looking for
advise on how to find a paint that will be a close match to the original
grey white hull color?

Thank you

Stephen Thorne
34+ Dejavu’
770.722.2848

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:53 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Martin, its great to hear that you are back on track; I do hope you are
> documenting the restoration of Calypso...if possible, it would be nice to
> see photos, or video of the projects and your progress...you could become a
> You Tube star! Any chance?
>
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane
> ,
> Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin DeYoung 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 9:05 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I
> got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to
> Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
> recap:
>
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
> her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There
> was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.
> We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
> completion will pick up considerably.
>
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest.
> The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
>  I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs
> from the early 70’s.
>
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks -
> Stu
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: 1990 C&C 34+ gel coat color match

[Gerald Fennessey via CnC-List]

Go to MiniCraft.com they have the correct gel coat match.  
Believe me I spent a lot of money before I found these guys.Its not cheap but 
it will match.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Thorne 
To: Stus-List 
Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2020 11:32 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: 1990 C&C 34+ gel coat color match

Folks - I need to repaint the transom of our 1990 C&C 34+.    Looking for 
advise on how to find a paint that will be a close match to the original grey 
white hull color?
Thank you
Stephen Thorne34+ Dejavu’770.722.2848
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:53 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 
 Martin, its great to hear that you are back on track; I do hope you are 
documenting the restoration of Calypso...if possible, it would be nice to see 
photos, or video of the projects and your progress...you could become a You 
Tube star! Any chance?

Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Martin DeYoung 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 9:05 pm
Subject: Stus-List Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

 Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I got 
distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to Port 
Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A recap:   
Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970, 
launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a 
successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as first 
Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased her in late 
1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.   From 1999 to 2015 we raced and 
cruised Calypso around the PNW including a 2015 summer trip around Vancouver 
Island.  At the end of that summer it was clear the 44 years of hard miles and 
exposure had taken its toll.  There was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of 
deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener 
holes that needed epoxy filling, tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and 
many more old boat issues.   Today, most of the major repairs are complete, 
some needed structural upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide 
us), and she is almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or 
early summer.  We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the 
Port Ludlow marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from 
my house and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of 
project completion will pick up considerably.   Aprox. 5 years ago I switched 
to following the cnc-list via the digest. The recent list software upgrade 
pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of receiving all the emails.  As I now 
have a good working knowledge of them,  I will chime in if I see any questions 
from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs from the early 70’s.   Martin 
DeYoungCalypso1971 C&C 43Seattle/Port Ludlow   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   
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involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send 
contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Used Garmin gear

[Steve Thomas]

Hey Dave,
Unless Edd has claimed it already, I would like to 
have that unit. It would be a good fit for my 1980 C&C36 project 
boat in Florida. I can't deliver the 6 pack of IPA personally, would 
$200 + shipping cover it?


Steve Thomas
C&C36 MK1
Merritt Island, Fl


 -- Original Message --
 From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 To: CNC-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dave.god...@me.com
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 5:22 PM
 Subject: Stus-List Used Garmin gear

   Listers,

 I have replaced an old, late-90’s era GPS on one of our boats. 
Obviously, it is dated technology with software and mapping no longer 
supported by Garmin, hence the reason for replacement. Listed below are 
the items.


 Garmin GPSMAP 3210 (with charts)
 Garmin GMS 10 Network Expander
 Garmin GSD 22 Digital Remote Sounder
 Associated cabling for all.

 There is no sounder because it is being used for the new GPS unit. The 
GPS mushroom antenna is not available because rather than tear out a ton 
of interior woodwork, it will remain as a vestigial item on the mast.


 I thought I’d put this out there in case someone might benefit from 
these items. If there is any interest let me know. All are available for 
shipping and a six-pack of good IPA.


 Photos available upon request.

 Regards,
 Dave
 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
 1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana


 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - 
use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
Thanks - Stu



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Stus-List Re: Used Garmin gear

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Hey Steve,

I’m very sorry but unfortunately bad news; another lister has claimed it.

Best regards,
Dave


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Steve Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dave,
>Unless Edd has claimed it already, I would like to have 
> that unit. It would be a good fit for my 1980 C&C36 project boat in 
> Florida. I can't deliver the 6 pack of IPA personally, would $200 + shipping 
> cover it?
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C&C36 MK1
> Merritt Island, Fl
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> To: CNC-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: dave.god...@me.com
> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 5:22 PM
> Subject: Stus-List Used Garmin gear
> 
>   Listers,
> 
> I have replaced an old, late-90’s era GPS on one of our boats. Obviously, it 
> is dated technology with software and mapping no longer supported by Garmin, 
> hence the reason for replacement. Listed below are the items.
> 
> Garmin GPSMAP 3210 (with charts)
> Garmin GMS 10 Network Expander
> Garmin GSD 22 Digital Remote Sounder
> Associated cabling for all.
> 
> There is no sounder because it is being used for the new GPS unit. The GPS 
> mushroom antenna is not available because rather than tear out a ton of 
> interior woodwork, it will remain as a vestigial item on the mast.
> 
> I thought I’d put this out there in case someone might benefit from these 
> items. If there is any interest let me know. All are available for shipping 
> and a six-pack of good IPA.
> 
> Photos available upon request.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> 1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List warped companionway sliding hatch

[David Knecht]

The smoked plexiglass sliding hatch on my boat seems to be warped and I am not 
sure why.  For several years, I have had a thin flexible 50W solar panel 
velcro’d to the top of it.  The spacing between the panel and the bridge that 
supports the traveller was initially tight, so I ground the fiberglass with a 
Dremel so the panel would fit underneath as it slid.  But I noticed that 
however much I ground it, the spacing would decrease over time, so that last 
summer, I had to lean on the panel to get it to fit underneath.  Once out of 
the sun, it would relax some, but the situation got worse as the summer wore 
on.  I pulled the whole sliding panel and brought it home and the plexiglass is 
clearly warped.  I can’t see how the solar panel on top would cause that to 
happen because most of the time, most of the plexiglass is out of the sun, 
covered by the solar panel.  I guess I am going to have to replace the entire 
panel as it is now seriously warped in some areas.  If anyone has any thoughts 
on what caused this and what to do about it, I would appreciate the advice.  
Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List KVH Sailcomp display needed

[Doug]

I'm reaching out to the list to see if anyone has a KVH Sailcomp display
they want to part with. A working unit would be preferred, however I can
still use a unit with a bad display. If you have one available, let me know
cost plus shipping. Thanks

Doug Allardyce
Bullet C&C 41
~~~_/) _/) ~~~


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Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[Matthew]

Don’t have clue about the cause.  Perhaps substituting a different material 
(like Lexan) will help solve the problem going forward.

 

From: David Knecht  
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 2:07 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list 
Subject: Stus-List warped companionway sliding hatch

 

The smoked plexiglass sliding hatch on my boat seems to be warped and I am not 
sure why.  For several years, I have had a thin flexible 50W solar panel 
velcro’d to the top of it.  The spacing between the panel and the bridge that 
supports the traveller was initially tight, so I ground the fiberglass with a 
Dremel so the panel would fit underneath as it slid.  But I noticed that 
however much I ground it, the spacing would decrease over time, so that last 
summer, I had to lean on the panel to get it to fit underneath.  Once out of 
the sun, it would relax some, but the situation got worse as the summer wore 
on.  I pulled the whole sliding panel and brought it home and the plexiglass is 
clearly warped.  I can’t see how the solar panel on top would cause that to 
happen because most of the time, most of the plexiglass is out of the sun, 
covered by the solar panel.  I guess I am going to have to replace the entire 
panel as it is now seriously warped in some areas.  If anyone has any thoughts 
on what caused this and what to do about it, I would appreciate the advice.  
Thanks- Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C&C 34+

New London, CT




 

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Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER]

Hi Dave,

I recently replaced the wooden strip (maybe teak) "stop" that runs along the 
front edge of that sliding window.   It stops the slider from coming out when 
you pull it.  It's 1/2" high by 3/4" wide by 22?" long.  And there are five or 
six flathead SS screws that hold it to the plexiglass.  I fashioned a camber 
into the replacement and saw it change from flat to arched.  No more rain 
puddles.  Eventually, I will change the rear handle/stop which is two pieces, 
into a cambered version.  

Chuck

> On 12/05/2020 2:06 PM David Knecht  wrote:
>  
>  
> The smoked plexiglass sliding hatch on my boat seems to be warped and I 
> am not sure why.  For several years, I have had a thin flexible 50W solar 
> panel velcro’d to the top of it.  The spacing between the panel and the 
> bridge that supports the traveller was initially tight, so I ground the 
> fiberglass with a Dremel so the panel would fit underneath as it slid.  But I 
> noticed that however much I ground it, the spacing would decrease over time, 
> so that last summer, I had to lean on the panel to get it to fit underneath.  
> Once out of the sun, it would relax some, but the situation got worse as the 
> summer wore on.  I pulled the whole sliding panel and brought it home and the 
> plexiglass is clearly warped.  I can’t see how the solar panel on top would 
> cause that to happen because most of the time, most of the plexiglass is out 
> of the sun, covered by the solar panel.  I guess I am going to have to 
> replace the entire panel as it is now seriously warped in some areas.  If 
> anyone has any thoughts on what caused this and what to do about it, I would 
> appreciate the advice.  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help 
> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[Riley Anderson]

David,

My guess is the heat generated from the solar panel warped the plexiglass.
Those flexible panels can produce a lot of heat. Some people place a sheet
of corrugated plastic under them to help with airflow.


On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 2:06 PM David Knecht  wrote:

> The smoked plexiglass sliding hatch on my boat seems to be warped and I am
> not sure why.  For several years, I have had a thin flexible 50W solar
> panel velcro’d to the top of it.  The spacing between the panel and the
> bridge that supports the traveller was initially tight, so I ground the
> fiberglass with a Dremel so the panel would fit underneath as it slid.  But
> I noticed that however much I ground it, the spacing would decrease over
> time, so that last summer, I had to lean on the panel to get it to fit
> underneath.  Once out of the sun, it would relax some, but the situation
> got worse as the summer wore on.  I pulled the whole sliding panel and
> brought it home and the plexiglass is clearly warped.  I can’t see how the
> solar panel on top would cause that to happen because most of the time,
> most of the plexiglass is out of the sun, covered by the solar panel.  I
> guess I am going to have to replace the entire panel as it is now seriously
> warped in some areas.  If anyone has any thoughts on what caused this and
> what to do about it, I would appreciate the advice.  Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[David Knecht]

I guess I presumed it was turning those photons into electricity rather than 
heat.  Hard to imagine it generates more heat than the smoke plexiglass, but I 
never checked.  It would make sense since it tended to unwarp when slid out of 
the sun.  If I put something underneath it would have to be really then so the 
panel still slides underneath.  Dave


> On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Riley Anderson  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> My guess is the heat generated from the solar panel warped the plexiglass. 
> Those flexible panels can produce a lot of heat. Some people place a sheet of 
> corrugated plastic under them to help with airflow. 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 2:06 PM David Knecht  > wrote:
> The smoked plexiglass sliding hatch on my boat seems to be warped and I am 
> not sure why.  For several years, I have had a thin flexible 50W solar panel 
> velcro’d to the top of it.  The spacing between the panel and the bridge that 
> supports the traveller was initially tight, so I ground the fiberglass with a 
> Dremel so the panel would fit underneath as it slid.  But I noticed that 
> however much I ground it, the spacing would decrease over time, so that last 
> summer, I had to lean on the panel to get it to fit underneath.  Once out of 
> the sun, it would relax some, but the situation got worse as the summer wore 
> on.  I pulled the whole sliding panel and brought it home and the plexiglass 
> is clearly warped.  I can’t see how the solar panel on top would cause that 
> to happen because most of the time, most of the plexiglass is out of the sun, 
> covered by the solar panel.  I guess I am going to have to replace the entire 
> panel as it is now seriously warped in some areas.  If anyone has any 
> thoughts on what caused this and what to do about it, I would appreciate the 
> advice.  Thanks- Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[Len Mitchell]

David, My slider is warped too and it has nothing to do with a solar panel on top. Mine sits under a dodger all summer. I believe the interior temperature of the boat when unattended is the cause but who knows. It’s an easy fix and I really like Chuck’s solution. I plan on using that Chuck. Thanks! Len MitchellS/V Crazy Legs1989 C&C 37+Midland On. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Martin DeYoung]

Joel,

I expect we experienced similar paths in restoring/repairing C&C designs built 
by Bruckmann.  The “stick built” interiors give both easy access for water 
migration and for the repair work water migration makes necessary.  I have a 
declared value marine insurance policy to cover liability and some hull losses 
but fully expect a tussle if I were to file a total loss claim.

One of the key failure modes we experienced was caused by water gaining access 
to the channels created when the Bruckmann build team bonded bulkheads to the 
hull.  We found water** that pooled in the bilge forward of the mast migrated 
across the bottom of several bulkheads and, over 40 years, rotted the ¾” thick 
plywood up to 18” from the hull contact.

Did you find any evidence of water migration through the bulkhead channels of 
the embedded 12v wires run through the deck balsa core?  Maybe Bruckmanns build 
practices were updated by 1973.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow

**Calypso’s excess water forward of the bilge was cause by hull laminate 
fractures likely caused by years of hard competition and excess use of 
hydraulic backstay/babystay adjustors. When we first launched Calypso in 
Seattle (after trucking out from Chicago) water seeped into the bilge space 
forward of the mast step.  We re-hauled the hull (the mast was out for painting 
and new rigging) and started diagnosing the failure by chiseling out the orange 
polyester “bog” filler and grinding off bottom paint. The micro fractures 
became appearant most easily inside.  We re-laminated the hull in that area 
with epoxy, built up the well forward of the mast step, and re-faired the hull.
Using as built drawings from C&C (from the museum I bought all available for 
43s and some for the first few 60s) during Calypso’s current restoration we 
discovered 43 and 60 hulls after #1 and #2 were retrofitted or built with extra 
reinforcement in this area.  For Calypso we manufactured “I” beams from G10 
epoxy board and wood then glassed them to the hull from next to the mast step 
forward past the babystay’s interior anchor point.


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From: Joel Delamirande
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:14 AM
To: Stus-List
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

Wow that amazing
It basically what I did to C&C 30 1973
People are amazed at the transformation
The hard part is to get the insurance to see it value comparing to market value 
if you can find some

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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Martin,

It’s nice to see your voice back on the list. It’s been awhile.

I had to chuckle a bit at your mention of a 5+ year restoration. I was certain 
the my refit would be done before yours. I’m thinking not  given my rather 
lackadaisical work efforts on our C&C 37. The COVID-19 shut-down in our lives 
has been a good incentive to focus on the project though. Fortunately I am in 
“put the pieces back together mode” rather than "tear down and rebuild mode".

My wife and I recently purchased another boat in order to keep us out on the 
water. It was her idea because, well, she knows me…

Glad to see Calypso will be going for another 40 years.

Best regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - “Ronin”
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - “Katana"

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Martin DeYoung  wrote:
> 
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I got 
> distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to Port 
> Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A recap:
>  
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970, 
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a 
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as 
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased her 
> in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>  
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a 
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was 
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There was 
> rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted 
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling, 
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>  
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural 
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is 
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.  We 
> will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow 
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house 
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project 
> completion will pick up considerably.
>  
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest. The 
> recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of 
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,  I 
> will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs from 
> the early 70’s.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Martin DeYoung]

Alan,

I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and racing.  I, 
out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip Calypso with a blooper 
and fly it during some downwind club race.  None of Calypso’s bloopers from the 
70’s made it to Seattle so I will start keeping my eye out (maybe some dumpster 
diving) for a suitable ¾ oz blooper.

I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew with the 
nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a spin/blooper combo.  I have 
many hours/miles driving with bloopers from my Transpacs in the 70’s and early 
80’s but it has been +-30 years since I last used one.  I believe any witnesses 
to our first attempts will be thoroughly entertained.

If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit would be 
worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso rarely sails to 
its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, cruising bottom paint, 
and casual crew.  The last time we corrected out to the podium was in a race 
where half the course was upwind/up current in 25 to 30 TWS.  Calypso reveled 
in the conditions while all those pesky “J” boats suffered from lack of 
railmeat and slid off to leeward.

So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a duffer crew to 
hoist and fly a blooper.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
C&C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow

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From: ALAN BERGEN
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
To: Stus-List
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

Hi Martin:
Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, or have 
you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with what's his name? 
I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and that will continue till 
March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm cruising in your area.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung 
mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I got 
distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to Port 
Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A recap:

Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970, 
launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a 
successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as first 
Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased her in late 
1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.

>From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a 2015 
>summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was clear 
>the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There was rotted 
>balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted plywood near 
>the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling, tired deck, 
>topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.

Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural upgrades 
added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is almost ready for 
the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.  We will move Calypso 
from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow marina as soon as a slip 
is available.  I can see the marina from my house and drive there in 5 minutes, 
6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project completion will pick up 
considerably.

Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest. The 
recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of 
receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,  I 
will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs from 
the early 70’s.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow

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Stus-List KVH Sailcomp Display Needed

[Doug]

I'm reaching out to the list to see if anyone has a KVH Sail comp display
they want to part with. A working unit would be preferred, however I can
still use a unit with a bad display. If you have one available, let me know
cost plus shipping. Thanks

Doug Allardyce
Bullet C&C 41
~~~_/) _/) ~~~


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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Matthew]

Martin:

 

I can attest that the practices were not updated by 1973.
My boat has all kinds of nooks and crannies where water accumulates.  One of
my pet peeves is that often the limber holes were not placed at the bottom
of the area being drained, but instead a half inch or so above (such as just
forward of the mast).  As a result, the half inch or so of water doesn’t
drain.  I prior owner used Bondo to address this.  However, I discovered
that water works its way in under the Bondo.  I plan to remove all the Bondo
and level the various areas with West System.  Another job on my long list.

 

Matt

C&C 42 Custom (1976 Bruckmann built) 

 

From: Martin DeYoung  
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:40 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

 

Joel,

 

I expect we experienced similar paths in restoring/repairing C&C designs
built by Bruckmann.  The “stick built” interiors give both easy access for
water migration and for the repair work water migration makes necessary.  I
have a declared value marine insurance policy to cover liability and some
hull losses but fully expect a tussle if I were to file a total loss claim.

 

One of the key failure modes we experienced was caused by water gaining
access to the channels created when the Bruckmann build team bonded
bulkheads to the hull.  We found water** that pooled in the bilge forward of
the mast migrated across the bottom of several bulkheads and, over 40 years,
rotted the ¾” thick plywood up to 18” from the hull contact.

 

Did you find any evidence of water migration through the bulkhead channels
of the embedded 12v wires run through the deck balsa core?  Maybe Bruckmanns
build practices were updated by 1973.

 

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle/Port Ludlow

 

**Calypso’s excess water forward of the bilge was cause by hull laminate
fractures likely caused by years of hard competition and excess use of
hydraulic backstay/babystay adjustors. When we first launched Calypso in
Seattle (after trucking out from Chicago) water seeped into the bilge space
forward of the mast step.  We re-hauled the hull (the mast was out for
painting and new rigging) and started diagnosing the failure by chiseling
out the orange polyester “bog” filler and grinding off bottom paint. The
micro fractures became appearant most easily inside.  We re-laminated the
hull in that area with epoxy, built up the well forward of the mast step,
and re-faired the hull.

Using as built drawings from C&C (from the museum I bought all available for
43s and some for the first few 60s) during Calypso’s current restoration we
discovered 43 and 60 hulls after #1 and #2 were retrofitted or built with
extra reinforcement in this area.  For Calypso we manufactured “I” beams
from G10 epoxy board and wood then glassed them to the hull from next to the
mast step forward past the babystay’s interior anchor point.

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows
10

 

From: Joel Delamirande  
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 8:14 AM
To: Stus-List  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

 

Wow that amazing 

It basically what I did to C&C 30 1973

People are amazed at the transformation 

The hard part is to get the insurance to see it value comparing to market
value if you can find some

 

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the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks -
Stu

-- 

Joel Delamirande



 
 www.jdroofing.ca

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Matthew]

Martin:

 

I recently had a new blooper made.  I’ll send the contact
info for the local sailmaker if you’re interested.

 

Matt

 

From: Martin DeYoung  
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:08 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

 

Alan,

 

I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and racing.
I, out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip Calypso with a
blooper and fly it during some downwind club race.  None of Calypso’s
bloopers from the 70’s made it to Seattle so I will start keeping my eye out
(maybe some dumpster diving) for a suitable ¾ oz blooper.

 

I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew with
the nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a spin/blooper combo.  I
have many hours/miles driving with bloopers from my Transpacs in the 70’s
and early 80’s but it has been +-30 years since I last used one.  I believe
any witnesses to our first attempts will be thoroughly entertained.

 

If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit would be
worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso rarely sails to
its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, cruising bottom paint,
and casual crew.  The last time we corrected out to the podium was in a race
where half the course was upwind/up current in 25 to 30 TWS.  Calypso
reveled in the conditions while all those pesky “J” boats suffered from lack
of railmeat and slid off to leeward.

 

So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a duffer crew
to hoist and fly a blooper.

 

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

C&C 43

Seattle/Port Ludlow

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows
10

 

From: ALAN BERGEN  
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
To: Stus-List  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

 

Hi Martin:

Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, or
have you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with what's his
name? I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and that will
continue till March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm cruising in
your area.




Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I got
distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to Port
Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
recap:

 

Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.

 

>From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There was
rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.

 

Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.  We
will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
completion will pick up considerably.

 

Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest. The
recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs
from the early 70’s. 

 

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle/Port Ludlow

 

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  for Windows 10

 

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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[ALAN BERGEN]

Martin:

My boat came with a blooper. After not using it in most of the races on the
Columbia River, I traded it to a friend for a useless main that I traded in
to North Sails for a discount when buying a new genny. Lately I've been
racing level, so it might be time to get it back  and see how I do with it.
It definitely would be a great sail to have on the Oregon Offshore (now
Pacific Northwest Offshore), when running down the straits to Victoria.

Alan


On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 2:37 PM Matthew  wrote:

> Martin:
>
>
>
> I recently had a new blooper made.  I’ll send the contact
> info for the local sailmaker if you’re interested.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Martin DeYoung 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:08 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Alan,
>
>
>
> I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and
> racing.  I, out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip
> Calypso with a blooper and fly it during some downwind club race.  None of
> Calypso’s bloopers from the 70’s made it to Seattle so I will start keeping
> my eye out (maybe some dumpster diving) for a suitable ¾ oz blooper.
>
>
>
> I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew with
> the nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a spin/blooper combo.
> I have many hours/miles driving with bloopers from my Transpacs in the 70’s
> and early 80’s but it has been +-30 years since I last used one.  I believe
> any witnesses to our first attempts will be thoroughly entertained.
>
>
>
> If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit would
> be worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso rarely
> sails to its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, cruising
> bottom paint, and casual crew.  The last time we corrected out to the
> podium was in a race where half the course was upwind/up current in 25 to
> 30 TWS.  Calypso reveled in the conditions while all those pesky “J” boats
> suffered from lack of railmeat and slid off to leeward.
>
>
>
> So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a duffer
> crew to hoist and fly a blooper.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> C&C 43
>
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> 
> for Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *ALAN BERGEN 
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
> *To: *Stus-List 
> *Subject: *Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Hi Martin:
>
> Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, or
> have you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with what's his
> name? I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and that will
> continue till March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm cruising in
> your area.
>
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung 
> wrote:
>
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I
> got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to
> Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
> recap:
>
>
>
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
> her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>
>
>
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There
> was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>
>
>
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.
> We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
> completion will pick up considerably.
>
>
>
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest.
> The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
>  I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann 

Stus-List Re: KVH Sailcomp Display Needed

[Ken Heaton]

Hi Doug,

Let me know if you have no luck finding one in the USA.  I have one here
(in Nova Scotia, Canada) that hasn't been powered up in over 10 years so I
don't know if it will work or not.

Ken H.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 18:22, Doug  wrote:

> I'm reaching out to the list to see if anyone has a KVH Sail comp display
> they want to part with. A working unit would be preferred, however I can
> still use a unit with a bad display. If you have one available, let me know
> cost plus shipping. Thanks
>
> Doug Allardyce
> Bullet C&C 41
> ~~~_/) _/) ~~~
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
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Stus-List Re: KVH Sailcomp Display Needed

[Fred Hazzard]

Doug,
I have a complete system. Four displays, 2 key pads and two working brains. 
Make me an offer including shipping and it will be yours. 
Come back to me to my email if interested. 
fshazzard@ gmail.com

Fred Hazzard 
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland Or 




Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Ken Heaton  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 18:22, Doug  wrote:
>> I'm reaching out to the list to see if anyone has a KVH Sail comp display
>> they want to part with. A working unit would be preferred, however I can
>> still use a unit with a bad display. If you have one available, let me know
>> cost plus shipping. Thanks
>> 
>> Doug Allardyce
>> Bullet C&C 41
>> ~~~_/) _/) ~~~
>> 
>> 
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>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[schiller]

Martin,

I may still have a Blooper from our Redwing 35 out in the barn. I'm not 
sure that it is appropriate but it could be yours for shipping.  There 
is also a reacher, a staysail and a banana staysail out there.  Our 
Redwing 35 (Red Pepper) was purchased to compete in the Chi-Mac.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
(Previous: 1970 Redwing 35, #007)
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 12/5/2020 5:07 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:


Alan,

I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and 
racing.  I, out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip 
Calypso with a blooper and fly it during some downwind club race.  
None of Calypso’s bloopers from the 70’s made it to Seattle so I will 
start keeping my eye out (maybe some dumpster diving) for a suitable ¾ 
oz blooper.


I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew 
with the nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a 
spin/blooper combo.  I have many hours/miles driving with bloopers 
from my Transpacs in the 70’s and early 80’s but it has been +-30 
years since I last used one.  I believe any witnesses to our first 
attempts will be thoroughly entertained.


If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit 
would be worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso 
rarely sails to its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, 
cruising bottom paint, and casual crew.  The last time we corrected 
out to the podium was in a race where half the course was upwind/up 
current in 25 to 30 TWS.  Calypso reveled in the conditions while all 
those pesky “J” boats suffered from lack of railmeat and slid off to 
leeward.


So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a 
duffer crew to hoist and fly a blooper.


Martin DeYoung

Calypso

C&C 43

Seattle/Port Ludlow

Sent from Mail  for 
Windows 10


*From: *ALAN BERGEN 
*Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
*To: *Stus-List 
*Subject: *Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

Hi Martin:

Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, 
or have you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with 
what's his name? I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and 
that will continue till March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm 
cruising in your area.



Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung 
mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up
pace.  I got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business,
retiring, moving to Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of
course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A recap:

Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in
late 1970, launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15
hulls sold. After a successful racing career out of Boston it was
sold to the Great Lakes as first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in
many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased her in late 1998 and trucked her
out west to Seattle.

From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW
including a 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end
of that summer it was clear the 44 years of hard miles and
exposure had taken its toll. There was rotted balsa core in +-20
sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted plywood near the
hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling, tired
deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.

Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed
structural upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide
us), and she is almost ready for the paint shed planned for this
spring or early summer. We will move Calypso from its Shilshole
Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow marina as soon as a slip is
available.  I can see the marina from my house and drive there in
5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project completion
will pick up considerably.

Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the
digest. The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the
“full meal deal” of receiving all the emails.  As I now have a
good working knowledge of them,  I will chime in if I see any
questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs from the early 70’s.

Martin DeYoung

Calypso

1971 C&C 43

Seattle/Port Ludlow

Sent from Mail


for Windows 10

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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Joel Delamirande]

Cool I’m in the same process at almost done
I think it a brand worth saving

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 5:07 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> It’s nice to see your voice back on the list. It’s been awhile.
>
> I had to chuckle a bit at your mention of a 5+ year restoration. I was
> certain the my refit would be done before yours. I’m thinking not  given my
> rather lackadaisical work efforts on our C&C 37. The COVID-19 shut-down in
> our lives has been a good incentive to focus on the project though.
> Fortunately I am in “put the pieces back together mode” rather than "tear
> down and rebuild mode".
>
> My wife and I recently purchased another boat in order to keep us out on
> the water. It was her idea because, well, she knows me…
>
> Glad to see Calypso will be going for another 40 years.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - “Ronin”
> 1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - “Katana"
>
> On Dec 3, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Martin DeYoung 
> wrote:
>
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I
> got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to
> Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
> recap:
>
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
> her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There
> was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.
> We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
> completion will pick up considerably.
>
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest.
> The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
>  I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs
> from the early 70’s.
>
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *
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Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

I have a blooper.  Prior owner said  he always gained half a knot when he put 
it up and half a knot when he dropped it..Bill Walker Evening Star1981 CnC 36


-Original Message-
From: schiller 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2020 06:57 PM
Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update


 Martin,
 
 I may still have a Blooper from our Redwing 35 out in the barn.  I'm not sure 
that it is appropriate but it could be yours for shipping.  There is also a 
reacher, a staysail and a banana staysail out there.  Our Redwing 35 (Red 
Pepper) was purchased to compete in the Chi-Mac.
 
 Neil Schiller
 1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
 (Previous: 1970 Redwing 35, #007)
 Whitehall, Michigan
 WLYC 
 
 On 12/5/2020 5:07 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:
  
 
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Alan,
 
  
 
I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and racing.  I, 
out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip Calypso with a blooper 
and fly it during some downwind club race.  None of Calypso’s bloopers from the 
70’s made it to Seattle so I will start keeping my eye out (maybe some dumpster 
diving) for a suitable ¾ oz blooper.
 
  
 
I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew with the 
nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a spin/blooper combo.  I have 
many hours/miles driving with bloopers from my Transpacs in the 70’s and early 
80’s but it has been +-30 years since I last used one.  I believe any witnesses 
to our first attempts will be thoroughly entertained.
 
  
 
If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit would be 
worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso rarely sails to 
its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, cruising bottom paint, 
and casual crew.  The last time we corrected out to the podium was in a race 
where half the course was upwind/up current in 25 to 30 TWS.  Calypso reveled 
in the conditions while all those pesky “J” boats suffered from lack of 
railmeat and slid off to leeward.
 
  
 
So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a duffer crew to 
hoist and fly a blooper.
 
  
 
Martin DeYoung
 
Calypso
 
C&C 43
 
Seattle/Port Ludlow
 
  
 
Sent from  Mail for Windows 10
 
  
  
From: ALAN BERGEN
 Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
 To: Stus-List
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
  
  
  
Hi Martin:
  
Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, or have 
you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with what's his name? 
I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and that will continue till 
March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm cruising in your area.
   

 
  
Alan Bergen
   
35 Mk III Thirsty
   
Rose City YC
   
Portland, OR
  
  
 
  
   
  
   
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung  
wrote:
  
   
Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I got 
distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to Port 
Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A recap:
 
 
 
Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970, 
launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a 
successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as first 
Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased her in late 
1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
 
 
 
>From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a 2015 
>summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was clear 
>the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There was rotted 
>balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted plywood near 
>the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling, tired deck, 
>topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
 
 
 
Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural upgrades 
added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is almost ready for 
the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.  We will move Calypso 
from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow marina as soon as a slip 
is available.  I can see the marina from my house and drive there in 5 minutes, 
6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project completion will pick up 
considerably.
 
 
 
Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest. The 
recent list s

Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update

[Bill Coleman]

You are one wild and crazy guy, Matt!

Bill Coleman

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:36 PM Matthew  wrote:

> Martin:
>
>
>
> I recently had a new blooper made.  I’ll send the contact
> info for the local sailmaker if you’re interested.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Martin DeYoung 
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 05, 2020 5:08 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Alan,
>
>
>
> I need to amend my previous statement regarding acquiring sails and
> racing.  I, out of an abundance of nostalgia, feel the need to equip
> Calypso with a blooper and fly it during some downwind club race.  None of
> Calypso’s bloopers from the 70’s made it to Seattle so I will start keeping
> my eye out (maybe some dumpster diving) for a suitable ¾ oz blooper.
>
>
>
> I expect it will be exciting to acquaint Calypso’s co-owner and crew with
> the nuances of setting, trimming, and driving under a spin/blooper combo.
> I have many hours/miles driving with bloopers from my Transpacs in the 70’s
> and early 80’s but it has been +-30 years since I last used one.  I believe
> any witnesses to our first attempts will be thoroughly entertained.
>
>
>
> If I was able to pull this off, the 3 second a mile PHRF rating hit would
> be worth the fun of flashing the fleet with a blooper.  Calypso rarely
> sails to its PHRF rating of 93, especially with its old sails, cruising
> bottom paint, and casual crew.  The last time we corrected out to the
> podium was in a race where half the course was upwind/up current in 25 to
> 30 TWS.  Calypso reveled in the conditions while all those pesky “J” boats
> suffered from lack of railmeat and slid off to leeward.
>
>
>
> So we may yet enter a race with a downwind leg long enough for a duffer
> crew to hoist and fly a blooper.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> C&C 43
>
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *ALAN BERGEN 
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2020 7:26 PM
> *To: *Stus-List 
> *Subject: *Stus-List Re: Calypso 1971 C&C 43 update
>
>
>
> Hi Martin:
>
> Glad to hear Calypso is coming alive again. Will you continue to race, or
> have you retired from racing also? Are you still partnered with what's his
> name? I've been racing in a summer series every Sunday, and that will
> continue till March. I'll give you a call, the next time I'm cruising in
> your area.
>
>
> Alan Bergen
>
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
>
> Rose City YC
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Martin DeYoung 
> wrote:
>
> Calypso’s 5+ year restoration continues, and may be picking up pace.  I
> got distracted from the rebuild by selling a business, retiring, moving to
> Port Ludlow (near Port Townsend WA) and of course, the Covid-19 pandemic. A
> recap:
>
>
>
> Calypso, a C&C design “Limited Edition” built by Bruckmann’s in late 1970,
> launched as Arieto in January 1971, hull #1 of +-15 hulls sold. After a
> successful racing career out of Boston it was sold to the Great Lakes as
> first Phantom then Esta Es and raced in many Chi-Mac races.  We purchased
> her in late 1998 and trucked her out west to Seattle.
>
>
>
> From 1999 to 2015 we raced and cruised Calypso around the PNW including a
> 2015 summer trip around Vancouver Island.  At the end of that summer it was
> clear the 44 years of hard miles and exposure had taken its toll.  There
> was rotted balsa core in +-20 sq ft of deck, multiple bulkheads with rotted
> plywood near the hull, 300 old fastener holes that needed epoxy filling,
> tired deck, topsides, and interior paint, and many more old boat issues.
>
>
>
> Today, most of the major repairs are complete, some needed structural
> upgrades added (used the original C&C drawings to guide us), and she is
> almost ready for the paint shed planned for this spring or early summer.
> We will move Calypso from its Shilshole Bay Marina slip to the Port Ludlow
> marina as soon as a slip is available.  I can see the marina from my house
> and drive there in 5 minutes, 6 if there’s traffic so the pace of project
> completion will pick up considerably.
>
>
>
> Aprox. 5 years ago I switched to following the cnc-list via the digest.
> The recent list software upgrade pushed me back to the “full meal deal” of
> receiving all the emails.  As I now have a good working knowledge of them,
>  I will chime in if I see any questions from owners of Bruckmann built C&Cs
> from the early 70’s.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Seattle/Port Ludlow
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> 
> for Windows 10
>
>
>
> Thanks to

Stus-List Re: warped companionway sliding hatch

[Chris Riedinger]

Sadly the panels are only ~20-25% efficient, the rest is lost in heat...
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