Stus-List Re: Forward Hatch Handles

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Most like these are Atkins & Hoyle, one has been replaced on my 35. I was
able to carefully drill out and re-tap one of the locking screws on mine to
replace the seal. Of course, I need to do it again, as the seal I made was
too thick, and the handle is very stiff.

https://www.atkinshoyle.com/products/parts-department.html
--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 7:52 PM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know where I can purchase replacement handles for the forward
> v-berth hatch on a 1979 C? I am replacing the hatch but cannot remove
> the pin/screw that holds the exterior knob in place on one of them. I think
> I may have to cut it off and get a new one.
>
> Thanks
> Brian C. Morrison
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Stus-List Forward Hatch Handles

[Brian Morrison via CnC-List]

Hello,

Does anyone know where I can purchase replacement handles for the forward 
v-berth hatch on a 1979 C? I am replacing the hatch but cannot remove the 
pin/screw that holds the exterior knob in place on one of them. I think I may 
have to cut it off and get a new one. 

Thanks
Brian C. Morrison
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Stus-List Re: winch mounting project

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

Hi Dave,
I did a similar winch installation on my previous C 29-2. I mounted Barient 
ST24 winches in place of the existing Barient 18's. Instead of using and 
aluminum adapter, the ones I fabricated were made from 1/4" thick stainless 
steel. I was concerned that tapping the aluminum would not be strong enough. 
The new winches were primary winches and they would see higher loads than a 
halyard winch would. A nice advantage was being able to remove the winches for 
servicing without having another person hold the bolt head as I loosened the 
nut from under the deck. 
Ted DrossosC 110Lady in Red

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Stus-List Re: winch mounting project

[cenelson--- via CnC-List]

Last things first, my rule of thumb (origin lost to memory) is to have enough 
threads to match the diameter of the bolt: thus a 1/4 x 20 bolt should have a 
minimum of 5 threads (20/4 = 5). Threads beyond that are overkill.
Next I would consider using a oscillating tool to cut away the inner liner in 
the shower so that you could reach all the bolts without drilling individual 
holes to match. You can easily cover the opening you create with a piece of 
teak or something that looks like it. Modern oscillating tools can easily cut 
through the liner.
Lastly, I would use a a starboard type plate vs. aluminium and forget about 
tapping an aluminium plate. Just use thru bolts and, if necessary, make the 
starboard thick enough so that the nuts used on the thru bolts can sit in 
recessed holes in the starboard.
FWIW
Charlie Nelson 


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On Saturday, March 11, 2023, 12:50 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I would love some feedback on a project since my initial plan went awry and 
hope others can help me from making any more mistakes.  I keep making small 
tweaks to make life easier for short-handed sailing.  Since I am usually alone, 
raising the main is a process.  I raise it most of the way by hand at the mast 
and have a clam cleat mounted there to hold it in place.  Then I feed the 
halyard through the blocks and then though the jammer on the coachroof and 
clamp it.  Then I use the winch to fully hoist and make adjustments.  The 
problem is that the only winch on the starboard side is a non-self tailing 
Barient 18.  Using that without someone to tail can be done, but is not easy 
and must be one handed.  
So I had to bright idea this winter to replace the winch with a self-tailing 
version to make adjustments easier once the sail is raised.  It seemed a 
relatively straightforward project at the time.  I have periodically had those, 
and I always assume the next one will be.  I found a used Harken winch in good 
condition at a reasonable price on Ebay and bought it and took it to the boat.  
I presumed I would have to redrill some holes to mount it, but did not realize 
how limited the space actually was. The new winch is not much larger, but 
enough to be a problem.  Because the winch is at the back of the coachroof, and 
behind the shower hatch, the space is very tight and I would not be able to fit 
all the screws of the new base, not to mention I would have to drill a new set 
of access points in the shower ceiling panel.
So two options:1.  Try to find a comparably sized Barient 21 or 22 ST that has 
a smaller base (none have the same hole pattern).  I think one would fit, but 
have not found any used ones yet so those appear hard to find.2.  Create an 
adapter plate.  My thought was to buy a round aluminum(?) stock plate the size 
of the new winch base.  Drill a set of countersunk holes matching the existing 
pattern and tap a set of holes for the new winch.  The plate would be held by 
the old through bolts.  The new by the tapped holes.  This would raise the 
winch somewhat depending on the thickness of the plate.  How thick to make it 
so the threads are sufficiently strong is a worry.  I don’t think the raised 
angle would be a problem, since genoa winches are much higher than the lead 
block and work fine.  
My temptation is to go with option 2.  Thoughts?  Thanks as always- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT

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Stus-List Re: winch mounting project

[Dave S via CnC-List]

David - I sail windstar singlehanded a lot, and don’t have a self tailing halyard winch.  Just use a line clutch.  I raise it by hand, and finish with the winch, tailing it myself.   I have a bank of clutches on either side of the cabin top and these tail halyards, reefing lines, my topping lift, etc.Easy.Dave Windstar 33-2Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 11, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:I would love some feedback on a project since my initial plan went awry and hope others can help me from making any more mistakes.  I keep making small tweaks to make life easier for short-handed sailing.  Since I am usually alone, raising the main is a process.  I raise it most of the way by hand at the mast and have a clam cleat mounted there to hold it in place.  Then I feed the halyard through the blocks and then though the jammer on the coachroof and clamp it.  Then I use the winch to fully hoist and make adjustments.  The problem is that the only winch on the starboard side is a non-self tailing Barient 18.  Using that without someone to tail can be done, but is not easy and must be one handed.  So I had to bright idea this winter to replace the winch with a self-tailing version to make adjustments easier once the sail is raised.  It seemed a relatively straightforward project at the time.  I have periodically had those, and I always assume the next one will be.  I found a used Harken winch in good condition at a reasonable price on Ebay and bought it and took it to the boat.  I presumed I would have to redrill some holes to mount it, but did not realize how limited the space actually was. The new winch is not much larger, but enough to be a problem.  Because the winch is at the back of the coachroof, and behind the shower hatch, the space is very tight and I would not be able to fit all the screws of the new base, not to mention I would have to drill a new set of access points in the shower ceiling panel.So two options:1.  Try to find a comparably sized Barient 21 or 22 ST that has a smaller base (none have the same hole pattern).  I think one would fit, but have not found any used ones yet so those appear hard to find.2.  Create an adapter plate.  My thought was to buy a round aluminum(?) stock plate the size of the new winch base.  Drill a set of countersunk holes matching the existing pattern and tap a set of holes for the new winch.  The plate would be held by the old through bolts.  The new by the tapped holes.  This would raise the winch somewhat depending on the thickness of the plate.  How thick to make it so the threads are sufficiently strong is a worry.  I don’t think the raised angle would be a problem, since genoa winches are much higher than the lead block and work fine.  My temptation is to go with option 2.  Thoughts?  Thanks as always- Dave
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT


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Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[John Read via CnC-List]

I seem to recall Jamestown closed their store and are now 100% on line
only??? If so not sure impact on service,  price etc.
John Read
Legacy III
Noank CT
1982 C 34

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:34 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
> compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
> or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
> unlike most West Marine brands.
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has been
>> going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has been
>> pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't look
>> too good -
>>
>> <> 
>> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
>> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
>> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
>> S wrote.>>
>>
>> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>>
>> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
>> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
>> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>> Entrada Erie, PA
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>> Stu
>
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Stus-List Re: Chandleries

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Dennis, you noted that the diesel lubricity additive you use is from Tractor 
Supply; what brand and any particulars?  Would you recommend that additive for 
any diesel (or at least any Yanmar...)?

 Thanks!
Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Fri, Mar 10, 2023 1:07 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: Chandleries

Vendors I sometimes use, right or wrong:
bottompaintstore.com
thezincguy.com, boatzincs,com
https://gregsmarinewiresupply.com/

Hodges Marine
For electronics:  thegpsstore.com
Fisheries Supply
Jamestown Distributors
eBay, Amazon and, strangely enough, the diesel lubricity additive I use I buy 
at Tractor Supply.  :)
--
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List winch mounting project

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

I would love some feedback on a project since my initial plan went awry and 
hope others can help me from making any more mistakes.  I keep making small 
tweaks to make life easier for short-handed sailing.  Since I am usually alone, 
raising the main is a process.  I raise it most of the way by hand at the mast 
and have a clam cleat mounted there to hold it in place.  Then I feed the 
halyard through the blocks and then though the jammer on the coachroof and 
clamp it.  Then I use the winch to fully hoist and make adjustments.  The 
problem is that the only winch on the starboard side is a non-self tailing 
Barient 18.  Using that without someone to tail can be done, but is not easy 
and must be one handed.  

So I had to bright idea this winter to replace the winch with a self-tailing 
version to make adjustments easier once the sail is raised.  It seemed a 
relatively straightforward project at the time.  I have periodically had those, 
and I always assume the next one will be.  I found a used Harken winch in good 
condition at a reasonable price on Ebay and bought it and took it to the boat.  
I presumed I would have to redrill some holes to mount it, but did not realize 
how limited the space actually was. The new winch is not much larger, but 
enough to be a problem.  Because the winch is at the back of the coachroof, and 
behind the shower hatch, the space is very tight and I would not be able to fit 
all the screws of the new base, not to mention I would have to drill a new set 
of access points in the shower ceiling panel.

So two options:
1.  Try to find a comparably sized Barient 21 or 22 ST that has a smaller base 
(none have the same hole pattern).  I think one would fit, but have not found 
any used ones yet so those appear hard to find.
2.  Create an adapter plate.  My thought was to buy a round aluminum(?) stock 
plate the size of the new winch base.  Drill a set of countersunk holes 
matching the existing pattern and tap a set of holes for the new winch.  The 
plate would be held by the old through bolts.  The new by the tapped holes.  
This would raise the winch somewhat depending on the thickness of the plate.  
How thick to make it so the threads are sufficiently strong is a worry.  I 
don’t think the raised angle would be a problem, since genoa winches are much 
higher than the lead block and work fine.  

My temptation is to go with option 2.  Thoughts?  Thanks as always- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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