Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Jonathan Tebbens via CnC-List
https://www.corvettesailboatassociation.com/

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024, 15:38 Richard Bush via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Dave, and Rob Mazza; thank you both, that's exactly the kind of input
> needed!
>
> Richard
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 01:40:10 PM EST, Dave S via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> The corvette tugged at my heartstrings before I bought Windstar, and I had
> a chance to look at several.They are quite a bit "rougher" than later
> boats (more like smaller boatyard's' stuff) and there were a few issues I
> saw across several examples.
> Check the glassed-in knees where the shrouds attach.  This had either been
> repaired or required repair in the boats I had looked at.   This repair is
> not a big deal for a competent amateur.
> Similarly, several had wet/soft decks.   One (sadly) needed much of the
> cored area rebuilt, and the area around the lazarette could not be trusted
> to bear my weight.  Poor guy would have given me the boat I think.For
> sure check that.
> Lastly, two of the boats I had looked at had hydraulic backstay
> adjusters.   Both boats had very distorted topsides at approximately the
> location where the shrouds attach.  It gave the impression that the hull
> had buckled due to the force of the adjusters.   .
> All that said, I'd buy one at the right price because they are probably
> pretty easy to work on (myself) and they are very pretty.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 12:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the
> Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in
> our area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling
> characteristics, maintenance requirements, and any known
> deficiencies...such as core de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks!
>
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
> 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts
>
> Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?
>
> JKC
>
>
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
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Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Dave, and Rob Mazza; thank you both, that's exactly the kind of input needed! 

Richard
Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 01:40:10 PM EST, Dave S via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 The corvette tugged at my heartstrings before I bought Windstar, and I had a 
chance to look at several.    They are quite a bit "rougher" than later boats 
(more like smaller boatyard's' stuff) and there were a few issues I saw across 
several examples.   Check the glassed-in knees where the shrouds attach.  This 
had either been repaired or required repair in the boats I had looked at.   
This repair is not a big deal for a competent amateur.   Similarly, several had 
wet/soft decks.   One (sadly) needed much of the cored area rebuilt, and the 
area around the lazarette could not be trusted to bear my weight.  Poor guy 
would have given me the boat I think.    For sure check that.Lastly, two of the 
boats I had looked at had hydraulic backstay adjusters.   Both boats had very 
distorted topsides at approximately the location where the shrouds attach.  It 
gave the impression that the hull had buckled due to the force of the 
adjusters.   .   All that said, I'd buy one at the right price because they are 
probably pretty easy to work on (myself) and they are very pretty.  
Good luck.
Dave




On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 12:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List  
wrote:

Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the 
Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in our 
area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling characteristics, 
maintenance requirements, and any known deficiencies...such as core 
de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks! 

Richard1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C Rugby shirts

2024-01-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
12 oz for me

From: Richard Bush via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 12:28 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C Rugby shirts

I like whichever lasts longer, I have some shirts(mostly Tee's) that get 
raggedy after a few washings...Thanks!

Richard
1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
(502) 584-7255


On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
We have Coquina because her previous owners moved to a house on Barnegat Bay 
with about 4 feet of water and wanted to buy Corvette.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Robert Mazza via CnC-List
We have owned Corvette #149 for over 25 years. They are a great little boat
for a couple. The 3'-6" draught with the board up opens up a lot of
cruising options. However, the full keel does reduce manoeverability and
builds up some weather helm on a reach. Only the fore and side decks are
cored, so wet core is not an extensive problem, though it should be watched
for. The chain plate instalation should also be examined since the plywood
knees can absorb water. All Corvettes were built with Atomic Fours which
are a great little engine when well maintained, which some have not been
over the years. On the whole, she has been a great boat for us for a long
time.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 12:32 p.m. Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the
> Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in
> our area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling
> characteristics, maintenance requirements, and any known
> deficiencies...such as core de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks!
>
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
> 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts
>
> Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?
>
> JKC
>
>
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
The corvette tugged at my heartstrings before I bought Windstar, and I had
a chance to look at several.They are quite a bit "rougher" than later
boats (more like smaller boatyard's' stuff) and there were a few issues I
saw across several examples.
Check the glassed-in knees where the shrouds attach.  This had either been
repaired or required repair in the boats I had looked at.   This repair is
not a big deal for a competent amateur.
Similarly, several had wet/soft decks.   One (sadly) needed much of the
cored area rebuilt, and the area around the lazarette could not be trusted
to bear my weight.  Poor guy would have given me the boat I think.For
sure check that.
Lastly, two of the boats I had looked at had hydraulic backstay adjusters.
 Both boats had very distorted topsides at approximately the location where
the shrouds attach.  It gave the impression that the hull had buckled due
to the force of the adjusters.   .
All that said, I'd buy one at the right price because they are probably
pretty easy to work on (myself) and they are very pretty.

Good luck.

Dave





On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 12:31, Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the
> Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in
> our area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling
> characteristics, maintenance requirements, and any known
> deficiencies...such as core de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks!
>
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
> 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts
>
> Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?
>
> JKC
>
>
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: C Rugby shirts

2024-01-09 Thread Matthew Wolford via CnC-List
I'll be in for a few.  I personally like a heavier rugby shirt.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Stus-List C Rugby shirts

8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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Stus-List Re: C Corvette 31

2024-01-09 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List

Joel, thanks, would you happen to have any other contact information for him? 
Richard
Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:37:32 PM EST, Joel Delamirande 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Richard I know someone in Toronto called Dan Erlich that totally refitted 
his boat to perfection hen on C Facebook group 

Joel Delamirandewww.jdroofing.ca


On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:32 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the 
Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in our 
area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling characteristics, 
maintenance requirements, and any known deficiencies...such as core 
de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks! 

Richard1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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2024-01-09 Thread Joel Delamirande via CnC-List
Hi Richard
I know someone in Toronto called Dan Erlich that totally refitted his boat
to perfection hen on C Facebook group

Joel Delamirande
*www.jdroofing.ca *



On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 12:32 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the
> Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in
> our area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling
> characteristics, maintenance requirements, and any known
> deficiencies...such as core de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks!
>
> Richard
> 1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane
> ,
> Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220
> (502) 584-7255
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via
> CnC-List  wrote:
>
>
> 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts
>
> Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?
>
> JKC
>
>
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
> help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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2024-01-09 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Is there anyone on this list who has knowledge of or experience with the 
Corvette model, I have a friend interested in one, but there are none in our 
area; they are mostly interested in sailing and handling characteristics, 
maintenance requirements, and any known deficiencies...such as core 
de-lamination issues, or the like, thanks! 

Richard1985 C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


www.candcyachts.com
Motion Designs Limited
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2024-01-09 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
I like whichever lasts longer, I have some shirts(mostly Tee's) that get 
raggedy after a few washings...Thanks!

Richard
1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
 

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 12:11:23 PM EST, Motion Designs Limited via 
CnC-List  wrote:  
 
 8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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2024-01-09 Thread Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List
8 oz or 12 oz Rugby Shirts

Lighter is a little cheaper but I’m thinking more comfort ?

JKC


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Stus-List Re: Navtec hydraulic backstay - discouraging amateur rebuild

2024-01-09 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hey Dennis,
No worries.  Your ram sounds good to go.  
 
My long story, longer:
It's been two years since my Navtec adventure. 
At the time, I watched many YouTube videos on rebuilding hydraulic rams, and 
thought "I can do that".
 
The two seals on the piston are made of a very hard rubber and sit in a deep 
square groove.  Videos show running a thin strap through the hole to stretch 
the seal around the piston.  I think I used a string, but it was very 
challenging.  I then ran into the hurdle of getting the piston back into the 
cylinder with new seals.  On the bottom end of the cylinder, the inner walls 
are sloped to safely compress the seals during reassembly.  But there are 
threads that make this challenging and my new seal caught on those threads.  I 
believe the shop has a special ring compressor they use for assembly.
 
It happened in June and I missed three weeks of sailing, taking it off and 
waiting for the shop, then ordering parts and failing to fix it and getting new 
parts and finally getting the ram shop to fix it. 
 
So now is a good time to check your hydraulics so you don't miss any sailing.
 
Chuck S
 
 

> On 01/09/2024 10:16 AM EST Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Chuck, 
>  
> Don't disagree with anything you said.  The seals I replaced were probably 
> the simplest ones in the unit requiring no special tools.  As I alluded to in 
> my post, it was a simple rebuild with no mitigating issues.
>  
> I chose to not replace the main piston seals.  Fortunately, they seem to be 
> doing well.  The unit is still holding about 500-600 psi after over 48 hours.
> 
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 12:50 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > FWIW, I tried to rebuild my backstay ram two summers ago and learned the 
> > hard way, I didn't have the proper tools to do it myself.  I wound up 
> > taking the thing to a local shop and they finished it for me.  I got a 
> > rebuild kit from Offshore Spars and followed the detailed instructions that 
> > Dennis shared and got all the specific seals on the rod and piston but 
> > couldn't get the piston back into the cylinder.  A new seal jambed on the 
> > inside threads of the cylinder.   Desperate, I took it to the shop and they 
> > looked at it, ordered a new $15 seal which took a few days and installed it 
> > while I waited, the next Saturday.
> >  
> > IIRC, the parts were $120 and the guy charged me $50 for ten minutes work.  
> > Plus, I gave him $20 to look at it.  Not bad.
> >  
> > I'd rather use my local shop that has all the tools and ram expertise.  I 
> > only tried to rebuild it myself that time, because the front office said 
> > they couldn't get to it for a month and I would have missed a month of 
> > sailing.
> >  
> > I learned that at my local hydraulics shop, during the week, the women in 
> > the front office schedule the jobs and everything waits for months.  On 
> > Saturday, the front office is closed and the workers in the back, are happy 
> > to help people in distress.
> >  
> > Another thought, the O-ring seal at the top of the ram is an easy DIY 
> > project because that seal lives in the top cap that unscrews from the 
> > cylinder.  You still have to follow the instructions to work on it, to be 
> > safe, but it is a simpler job than rebuilding the whole unit which has 
> > multiple seals inside.  My local shop repaced that seal fifteen years back 
> > for $35 and then bench tested the unit to #4000 for me, to prove that was 
> > the only thing needed.  This time around, I thought I should rebuild the 
> > whole unit for peace of mind.
> >  
> > Tip:  This is the best time of year to check your hydraulic rams and get 
> > them fixed.  Don't wait, like I did, till Spring.
> >  
> > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
> >  
> > 
> > > 
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> 
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Stus-List Re: Navtec hydraulic backstay - discouraging amateur rebuild

2024-01-09 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Chuck,

Don't disagree with anything you said.  The seals I replaced were probably
the simplest ones in the unit requiring no special tools.  As I alluded to
in my post, it was a simple rebuild with no mitigating issues.

I chose to not replace the main piston seals.  Fortunately, they seem to be
doing well.  The unit is still holding about 500-600 psi after over 48
hours.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 12:50 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I tried to rebuild my backstay ram two summers ago and learned the
> hard way, I didn't have the proper tools to do it myself.  I wound up
> taking the thing to a local shop and they finished it for me.  I got a
> rebuild kit from Offshore Spars and followed the detailed instructions that
> Dennis shared and got all the specific seals on the rod and piston but
> couldn't get the piston back into the cylinder.  A new seal jambed on the
> inside threads of the cylinder.   Desperate, I took it to the shop and they
> looked at it, ordered a new $15 seal which took a few days and installed it
> while I waited, the next Saturday.
>
> IIRC, the parts were $120 and the guy charged me $50 for ten minutes
> work.  Plus, I gave him $20 to look at it.  Not bad.
>
> I'd rather use my local shop that has all the tools and ram expertise.  I
> only tried to rebuild it myself that time, because the front office said
> they couldn't get to it for a month and I would have missed a month of
> sailing.
>
> I learned that at my local hydraulics shop, during the week, the women in
> the front office schedule the jobs and everything waits for months.  On
> Saturday, the front office is closed and the workers in the back, are happy
> to help people in distress.
>
> Another thought, the O-ring seal at the top of the ram is an easy DIY
> project because that seal lives in the top cap that unscrews from the
> cylinder.  You still have to follow the instructions to work on it, to be
> safe, but it is a simpler job than rebuilding the whole unit which has
> multiple seals inside.  My local shop repaced that seal fifteen years back
> for $35 and then bench tested the unit to #4000 for me, to prove that was
> the only thing needed.  This time around, I thought I should rebuild the
> whole unit for peace of mind.
>
> Tip:  This is the best time of year to check your hydraulic rams and get
> them fixed.  Don't wait, like I did, till Spring.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
>
>
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