Stus-List Re: Yanmar Parts ?

[nausetbeach--- via CnC-List]

Thanks for the names of places people have used.  

 

FWIW:  I found via some searching that it appears “marine diesel direct” is 
either renamed or more likely has consolidated with another company at:  
Discount Marine Source - Boating supplies and engine parts 
  

 

The selection of Yanmar parts offered seems vastly reduced to what the marine 
diesel direct site had, has pictures of a plain brown box vs photos of the 
actual Yanmar part [which I found helpful in confirming part identification] 
and  have not tried to compared prices to the others sites suggested.  

 

Brian

 

From: Peter W. via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:26 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Peter W. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Yanmar Parts ?

 

I’ve had good experiences with bay shore marine engines in Annapolis.

 

Pete W.

90 C&C 30-2

Irvington, Va.

Sent from my iPad





On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:



I just tried their website. No luck. I ordered an oil cooler from Scott Marine 
Power. They're in Florida. Price seemed ok. Shipping was high, but I think it 
was my fault. 

 

Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C&C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA


 

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 09:28 nausetbeach--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have ordered Yanmar parts from “marine diesel direct” for years as they had a 
good website that made finding the correct part fairly straight forward and 
they seemed to have good prices.  But I have not been able to connect with 
their website today, using multiple electronics.  They still show up in web 
searches, but no joy on connecting with the website.  Anybody else use them and 
/ or know what happened to them?  

 

More importantly, where are people getting Yanmar parts?  My local dealer is 
typically 30% or more higher which even after shipping charges makes online a 
better deal.  Am in CT and currently having the first real snow fall in years…  
5” and counting. 

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Lithium vs AGM

[nausetbeach--- via CnC-List]

Chuck, Bill and any others: 

 

I am in a similar position; my batteries are on their last legs.  Was hoping to 
make another season with them but need to dive into LFP batteries as a 
potential replacement.  Some people really like AGM, but my understanding is 
they need to be brought back to 100% SOC and I am on a mooring so cannot just 
plug in at the end of the day.  

 

Where / what sites have you been using to learn about LFP batteries?  So far I 
have looked [but need to spend more time at] Rod Collins “Marine How To” site, 
and Ocean Planet.  

 

I also need to get up to speed as best as I can on solar – so any suggestions 
there as well.  Have spent some time on the “alltestore . com” site.  

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:15 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Stus-List Lithium vs AGM

 

Hey Bill, 

  

I am replacing my 12 and 13 year old AGM batteries with AGMs.  I spent at least 
40 hours this winter learning about Lithium, because decent lithium batteries 
can be found for a few dollars more than AGMs.  But I don't have room on my 
boat for the inverter/charger and all the costs of that and all the modules and 
cables, required to complete a system like that, pushes a lithium project way 
over my budget.   I am installing a Victron shunt to read my power useage and 
monitor various loads, and I'm adding some fuses at each battery, so I can 
always upgrade the system later, if it's warranted.

  

I'll be adding a cheap 1000watt pure sine wave inverter to power my TV, DVD, 
chargers and coffee maker.   

  

Curious about your project. 

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis 

  



On 02/15/2024 4:27 PM EST Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

I'm a little surprised, I would have expected a progressive fellow such as 
yourself to be jumping into lithium. I am wasting an inordinate amount of time 
researching charger inverters, and I think although the lithium batteries may 
come down more in the future, I think because I need new batteries the time is 
now. 

  

Bill Coleman 

 

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:34 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

I recently got a big AGM battery that needs a big charger. I have a ProNautic 
15 amp charger with a battery temperature probe that is necessary for correct 
charging of any lead-acid battery. It can charge 1, 2, or 3 batteries and has a 
lot of settings for various charge profiles.

It works fine, it is only being removed because I got a bigger charger. They 
sell for $350-$400 new, I will send this one to any USA address for $150 
shipped. Canada might be more, I would have to check.

(Odyssey battery company told me they want their battery charged with at least 
a 30 amp charger and ideally a lot more, apparently they need to be hit hard to 
stay good)

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Lithium vs AGM

[Dave S via CnC-List]

C&C 33 mark ii Windstarcncwindstar.blogspot.comHere are a series of posts documenting my experience with exactly the same upgrade.  In a nutshell, 175w  of solar and 200ah of lithium house bank allowed me to be off the grid May and September.   (Toronto area, fridge running).   I think this is a perfect size for a 32-37’ boat, similarly equipped.    I sold windstar last year and the new owner told me that her marine electrician checked the installation and told her it was ‘done right’.   I’ve upgraded my new boat to LiFePo and wouldn’t think twice about it, unless perhaps I had a requirement to charge the bank in freezing cold.   The loads and use cases I considered are all documented on that blog.  Dave Ex- 33-2 Windstar Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 16, 2024, at 6:04 AM, nausetbeach--- via CnC-List  wrote:Chuck, Bill and any others:  I am in a similar position; my batteries are on their last legs.  Was hoping to make another season with them but need to dive into LFP batteries as a potential replacement.  Some people really like AGM, but my understanding is they need to be brought back to 100% SOC and I am on a mooring so cannot just plug in at the end of the day.   Where / what sites have you been using to learn about LFP batteries?  So far I have looked [but need to spend more time at] Rod Collins “Marine How To” site, and Ocean Planet.   I also need to get up to speed as best as I can on solar – so any suggestions there as well.  Have spent some time on the “alltestore . com” site.   Thanks,Brian From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:15 PMTo: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Lithium vs AGM Hey Bill,   I am replacing my 12 and 13 year old AGM batteries with AGMs.  I spent at least 40 hours this winter learning about Lithium, because decent lithium batteries can be found for a few dollars more than AGMs.  But I don't have room on my boat for the inverter/charger and all the costs of that and all the modules and cables, required to complete a system like that, pushes a lithium project way over my budget.   I am installing a Victron shunt to read my power useage and monitor various loads, and I'm adding some fuses at each battery, so I can always upgrade the system later, if it's warranted.  I'll be adding a cheap 1000watt pure sine wave inverter to power my TV, DVD, chargers and coffee maker.     Curious about your project.   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis       On 02/15/2024 4:27 PM EST Bill Coleman via CnC-List  wrote:     I'm a little surprised, I would have expected a progressive fellow such as yourself to be jumping into lithium. I am wasting an inordinate amount of time researching charger inverters, and I think although the lithium batteries may come down more in the future, I think because I need new batteries the time is now.   Bill Coleman  On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:34 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  wrote: I recently got a big AGM battery that needs a big charger. I have a ProNautic 15 amp charger with a battery temperature probe that is necessary for correct charging of any lead-acid battery. It can charge 1, 2, or 3 batteries and has a lot of settings for various charge profiles.It works fine, it is only being removed because I got a bigger charger. They sell for $350-$400 new, I will send this one to any USA address for $150 shipped. Canada might be more, I would have to check.(Odyssey battery company told me they want their battery charged with at least a 30 amp charger and ideally a lot more, apparently they need to be hit hard to stay good) Joe Della BarbaCoquina C&C 35 MK IKent Island MD USA  Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: Navtec hydraulic backstay - amateur rebuild

[Glenn Henderson via CnC-List]

Good hint about the oil. It makes sense. Thanks!

Glenn Henderson

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 4:38 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I just went through all that myself in the last couple of years. Kind of
> like filling your car tires.   At first, I borrowed one of my crewmates
> nitrogen tank and regulator, as he had one for his airplane landing gear. I
> think it only went to 500 lb. Plus it was a little constraining with the
> short hose he had. Long story short, I had the local hydraulic shop make me
> a longer hose, I bought a thousand pound regulator off eBay, and I just use
> his tank. (Although he fills it up and charges it to me anyway.!) I don't
> know what model  you have, but I have a Sailtec, and even though I read in
> the manual to put something like 10 or 12 oz of oil in before charging, I
> figured well, they would have done that already. And before the Summer was
> out, it had lost its charge. Next year, I put the oil in, and voila still
> stiff as.. it needs to be.
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:14 Glenn Henderson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Didn you recondition a boom vang? If so, where did you get the nitrogen
>> recharge accomplished?
>>
>> Glenn Henderson
>> WeGo
>> C&C 41
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:10 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Glad it worked for you.  You're welcome.
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandevile, LA
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, 7:15 AM Tom A via CnC-List 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Shout out to Dennis for helping me replace the end seals on my Navtec,

 Tom A


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Stus-List Re: Lithium vs AGM

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hey Dave,
Your work looks very professional and the write up is great.  Thanks for 
sharing.
 
Chuck S

> On 02/16/2024 7:30 AM EST Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:
>  
>  
> C&C 33 mark ii Windstar 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Solar%20and%20Batteries?m=1
> cncwindstar.blogspot.com 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Solar%20and%20Batteries?m=1
> [favicon.ico] 
> http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/search/label/Solar%20and%20Batteries?m=1
> 
> Here are a series of posts documenting my experience with exactly the same 
> upgrade.  
> In a nutshell, 175w  of solar and 200ah of lithium house bank allowed me to 
> be off the grid May and September.   (Toronto area, fridge running).   I 
> think this is a perfect size for a 32-37’ boat, similarly equipped.I sold 
> windstar last year and the new owner told me that her marine electrician 
> checked the installation and told her it was ‘done right’.   I’ve upgraded my 
> new boat to LiFePo and wouldn’t think twice about it, unless perhaps I had a 
> requirement to charge the bank in freezing cold.   
> The loads and use cases I considered are all documented on that blog.  
>  
> Dave 
> Ex- 33-2 Windstar 
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2024, at 6:04 AM, nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Chuck, Bill and any others:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I am in a similar position; my batteries are on their last legs.  Was 
> > hoping to make another season with them but need to dive into LFP batteries 
> > as a potential replacement.  Some people really like AGM, but my 
> > understanding is they need to be brought back to 100% SOC and I am on a 
> > mooring so cannot just plug in at the end of the day. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Where / what sites have you been using to learn about LFP batteries?  So 
> > far I have looked [but need to spend more time at] Rod Collins “Marine How 
> > To” site, and Ocean Planet. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I also need to get up to speed as best as I can on solar – so any 
> > suggestions there as well.  Have spent some time on the “alltestore . com” 
> > site. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:15 PM
> > To: Stus-List 
> > Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> > Subject: Stus-List Lithium vs AGM
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hey Bill,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I am replacing my 12 and 13 year old AGM batteries with AGMs.  I spent at 
> > least 40 hours this winter learning about Lithium, because decent lithium 
> > batteries can be found for a few dollars more than AGMs.  But I don't have 
> > room on my boat for the inverter/charger and all the costs of that and all 
> > the modules and cables, required to complete a system like that, pushes a 
> > lithium project way over my budget.   I am installing a Victron shunt to 
> > read my power useage and monitor various loads, and I'm adding some fuses 
> > at each battery, so I can always upgrade the system later, if it's 
> > warranted.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'll be adding a cheap 1000watt pure sine wave inverter to power my TV, 
> > DVD, chargers and coffee maker.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Curious about your project.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 02/15/2024 4:27 PM EST Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I'm a little surprised, I would have expected a progressive fellow such 
> > > as yourself to be jumping into lithium. I am wasting an inordinate amount 
> > > of time researching charger inverters, and I think although the lithium 
> > > batteries may come down more in the future, I think because I need new 
> > > batteries the time is now.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Bill Coleman
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:34 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I recently got a big AGM battery that needs a big charger. I have a 
> > > > > ProNautic 15 amp charger with a battery temperature probe that is 
> > > > > necessary for correct charging of any lead-acid battery. It can 
> > > > > charge 1, 2, or 3 batteries and has a lot of settings for various 
> > > > > charge profiles.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It works fine, it is only being removed because I got a bigger 
> > > > > charger. They sell for $350-$400 new, I will send this one to any USA 
> > > > > address for $150 shipped. Canada might be more, I would have to check.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (Odyssey battery company told me they want their battery charged with 
> > > > > at least a 30 amp charger and ideally a lot more, apparently they 
> > > > > need to be hit hard to stay good)
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Joe Della Barba
> > > > 
> > > > Coquina C&C 35 MK I
> > > > 
> > > > Kent Island MD USA
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Please s

Stus-List Re: Lithium vs AGM

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Brian,
I watched hundreds of videos installing lithium battery systems in sailboats 
and also in RVs.  I found MarineHowTo.com had a link to Victron diagrams and 
there are many many videos describing each Victron module on YouTube.
 
I didn't go very deep into solar panels, which is probably where I'd start if 
our boat was on a mooring.  
 
My situation is different. 
Our boat is in a slip with 30amp power available and we enjoy air conditioning, 
no extra charge.  I couldn't build a lithium/solar system large enough to 
support air conditioning so it lost a lot of attraction.  We mostly daysail and 
return to the slip.  When we cruise, my wife prefers a marina over anchoring 
out, where they have a pool, so we take a slip at a marina and plug in.   We 
enjoy walking strange towns and learning the history and finding good 
restaurants and live music and meeting new people.  It's all part of the 
adventure of cruising.
 
 
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R Annapolis

> On 02/16/2024 6:03 AM EST nausetbeach--- via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chuck, Bill and any others:
> 
>  
> 
> I am in a similar position; my batteries are on their last legs.  Was hoping 
> to make another season with them but need to dive into LFP batteries as a 
> potential replacement.  Some people really like AGM, but my understanding is 
> they need to be brought back to 100% SOC and I am on a mooring so cannot just 
> plug in at the end of the day. 
> 
>  
> 
> Where / what sites have you been using to learn about LFP batteries?  So far 
> I have looked [but need to spend more time at] Rod Collins “Marine How To” 
> site, and Ocean Planet. 
> 
>  
> 
> I also need to get up to speed as best as I can on solar – so any suggestions 
> there as well.  Have spent some time on the “alltestore . com” site. 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 
>  
> 
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 6:15 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> Subject: Stus-List Lithium vs AGM
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Bill,
> 
>  
> 
> I am replacing my 12 and 13 year old AGM batteries with AGMs.  I spent at 
> least 40 hours this winter learning about Lithium, because decent lithium 
> batteries can be found for a few dollars more than AGMs.  But I don't have 
> room on my boat for the inverter/charger and all the costs of that and all 
> the modules and cables, required to complete a system like that, pushes a 
> lithium project way over my budget.   I am installing a Victron shunt to read 
> my power useage and monitor various loads, and I'm adding some fuses at each 
> battery, so I can always upgrade the system later, if it's warranted.
> 
>  
> 
> I'll be adding a cheap 1000watt pure sine wave inverter to power my TV, DVD, 
> chargers and coffee maker.  
> 
>  
> 
> Curious about your project.
> 
>  
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis
> 
>  
> 
>
> 
> > 
> > On 02/15/2024 4:27 PM EST Bill Coleman via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'm a little surprised, I would have expected a progressive fellow such as 
> > yourself to be jumping into lithium. I am wasting an inordinate amount of 
> > time researching charger inverters, and I think although the lithium 
> > batteries may come down more in the future, I think because I need new 
> > batteries the time is now.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bill Coleman
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, 12:34 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I recently got a big AGM battery that needs a big charger. I have a 
> > > > ProNautic 15 amp charger with a battery temperature probe that is 
> > > > necessary for correct charging of any lead-acid battery. It can charge 
> > > > 1, 2, or 3 batteries and has a lot of settings for various charge 
> > > > profiles.
> > > > 
> > > > It works fine, it is only being removed because I got a bigger charger. 
> > > > They sell for $350-$400 new, I will send this one to any USA address 
> > > > for $150 shipped. Canada might be more, I would have to check.
> > > > 
> > > > (Odyssey battery company told me they want their battery charged with 
> > > > at least a 30 amp charger and ideally a lot more, apparently they need 
> > > > to be hit hard to stay good)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Joe Della Barba
> > > 
> > > Coquina C&C 35 MK I
> > > 
> > > Kent Island MD USA
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
> > > help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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> > > Stu
> > > 
> > 
> > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
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