Re: Stus-List Cruising World - C&C 34+
Yep, a fair description. Looking forward to reading it John Sent from my iPad > On Nov 14, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List > wrote: > > The December issue? > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd > Schillay via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 6:40 PM > To: > Subject: Stus-List Cruising World - C&C 34+ > > Listers, > > FYI - the latest issue of Cruising World has a review on the C&C 34+ titled > "Agile and Accommodating" on page 60. > > "Race in comfort or cruise at speed" > > > All the best, > > Edd > > --- > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > NCC-1701-B > C&C 37+ | City Island, NY > www.StarshipSailing.com > --- > 914.332.4400 | Office > 914.774.9767 | Mobile > --- > Sent via iPhone 5 > iPhone. iTypos. iApologize > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Bermuda Hurricane Gonzalo
Yikes. This is not going to be pretty. John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List > wrote: > > For now, there is live video of the Naval dock: > > http://portbermudawebcam.com/ > > I wish them well! > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 34/36 bowsprit retrofit
Francois For cruising purposes you may want to take a look at Doyle's UPS or similar product. It's essentially a smaller chute on a simple continuous line furling drum. The drum attaches to any convenient fitting with a snap shackle. By far it is the easiest system for a 2 person crew to manage. I've used both the tacker and various socks over the years. While they work reasonably well the furling system is just in another league in terms of convenience. Just another option. John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > wrote: > > That is a cool upgrade and a super nice install.. As an alternative has > anyone experimented with an ATN Tacker and Spinnaker Sleave? > > I understand that you'd loose some performance with the Tacker but it seems > like it would be worth a try, it's pretty cheap and easy. > > I'm definitely getting both as I want to fly the spin with my wife and kids. > The Tacker eliminates the big / heavy pole, the sock takes the drama out of > deploying / retrieving. > > -Francois Rivard > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, Ga > Sent from IBM Notes Traveler > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Solar panels and charge controllers
I've been very happy with my tiny sunsaver charger. I think 20 amps is about $80. Probably not the best out there by any means but effective and reliable. This really all comes down to what you're doing with the boat. Acceptable for long term cruising is different from weekend sailing in the US. Not better or worse, just different needs. I wouldn't discount high quality rigid panels for power to $ value. But again, keep it simple John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > 1st off – you can parallel them into one controller with only the very > tiniest loss of efficiency despite shadows. > 2nd – many controllers out there are crap at best. Morningstar makes > excellent PWM and MPPT controllers. I have had great luck with mine. I would > not even consider cheap FleaBay contollers. YMMV. PWM controllers are less > efficient, but they are a lot cheaper. > See > http://support.morningstarcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Trad-PWM-vs-TrakStar-MPPT-April-2014.pdf > Morningstar MPPT : > http://www.amazon.com/Morningstar-Sunsaver-TrackStar-Charge-Controller/dp/B006H9VPL6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413293847&sr=8-1&keywords=morningstar+solar+controller+mppt+15+amp > about $220. > > http://www.amazon.com/MorningStar-ProStar-PS-30-Charge-Controller/dp/B003YIB7QQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1413293962&sr=8-7&keywords=morningstar+solar+controller+PWM > > About half that price and includes an anchor light output. > > Just get one QUALITY controller. Good PWM beats some random MPPT scavenged > off of Fleabay. Don’t forget to look at panel amp output, don’t do the math > for 12 volts. Most panels are 16-18 volts, so 200 watts at 16 volts is 12.5 > amps and within the range of a 15 amp controller. > > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C&C 35 MK I > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:43 AM > To: C&C List > Subject: Stus-List Solar panels and charge controllers > > Hey folks, > > I'm looking to add solar panels to my boat. I have a new hard top dodger > that will be a great place to mount some flexible panels. I realize that > attention will have to be given to the boom so that it's shadow it minimized. > I've given consideration to the fact that some shadow is likely inevitable. > My understanding is that one large solar panel can have a substantial drop in > it's output or be completely disabled if only a relatively small shadow is > cast. As such I am planning for 4 smaller 50w panels instead of 2 100w > panels. The idea being that a small shadow will only disable 1 or 2 of the > panels at a time. This design also adds reliability such that a mechanical > or electrical failure of a single panel doesn't disable the entire system. > Additionally, a smaller panel is easier to replace and cost less. > > To ensure reliability I was also planning to NOT creat an array of series and > parallel panels going to one controller but rather each panel to its own > controller. I believe the current recommendation is to use MPPT over PWM? > > There is a wide range of prices for panels and controllers but I'm having a > hard time determining which ones are a good value. I know you get what you > pay for but over paying is silly. At the boat show, 50w, semi-flexible, >20% > efficient, monocrystalline panels were going for as much as $500! I've seen > charge controllers as high as $250. I know there are a few ebay haters here > but the comparable panels I found were $125 and 20A MPPT controllers for $11 > with free shipping. Is there something I'm missing? > > Besides disparaging comments about ebay or about me being cheap, does anyone > have any insights about the design or component selection. > > I was originally pursuing a multi-channel controller but it seems no one > makes them. > > When using multiple (4) controllers do they need to be diode separated from > the battery? > > What about the dump load? I plan to use a single 200w resistive heater. > Would it need to be diode separated from each controller? > > Thanks, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Solar panels and charge controllers
Josh: You've certainly given this a lot of thought. Don't overthink or overbuild it. KISS If it were me, I'd go with two 100 watt panels back to a single $50 controller and keep the wiring as simple as possible. Keep in mind you're talking about a system that will deliver about 60 ah per day (12v). Frankly I wouldn't even worry about a load assuming you're wiring it directly to a battery bank of any size and not through a switch. You may also want to look at panels from RV stores which are usually identical but lack the boat related price. Check model numbers carefully if you go that route. Keep in mind the weight going onto the Bimini as 4 50 watt panels will nearly double the weight of 2 100w panels. You'll also double the mounting hardware, etc. Just my 2 cents. John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 14, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I'm looking to add solar panels to my boat. I have a new hard top dodger > that will be a great place to mount some flexible panels. I realize that > attention will have to be given to the boom so that it's shadow it minimized. > I've given consideration to the fact that some shadow is likely inevitable. > My understanding is that one large solar panel can have a substantial drop in > it's output or be completely disabled if only a relatively small shadow is > cast. As such I am planning for 4 smaller 50w panels instead of 2 100w > panels. The idea being that a small shadow will only disable 1 or 2 of the > panels at a time. This design also adds reliability such that a mechanical > or electrical failure of a single panel doesn't disable the entire system. > Additionally, a smaller panel is easier to replace and cost less. > > To ensure reliability I was also planning to NOT creat an array of series and > parallel panels going to one controller but rather each panel to its own > controller. I believe the current recommendation is to use MPPT over PWM? > > There is a wide range of prices for panels and controllers but I'm having a > hard time determining which ones are a good value. I know you get what you > pay for but over paying is silly. At the boat show, 50w, semi-flexible, >20% > efficient, monocrystalline panels were going for as much as $500! I've seen > charge controllers as high as $250. I know there are a few ebay haters here > but the comparable panels I found were $125 and 20A MPPT controllers for $11 > with free shipping. Is there something I'm missing? > > Besides disparaging comments about ebay or about me being cheap, does anyone > have any insights about the design or component selection. > > I was originally pursuing a multi-channel controller but it seems no one > makes them. > > When using multiple (4) controllers do they need to be diode separated from > the battery? > > What about the dump load? I plan to use a single 200w resistive heater. > Would it need to be diode separated from each controller? > > Thanks, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans
Ditto all the other comments. For my wife, it was lessons with a captain to learn docking skills (she almost always docks now), working the main during races, and most importantly, a "friend" who made fun of her one day. It wasn't so funny at the time but certainly motivated her. 20 years and about 10,000 miles later she can more than hold her own against experienced sailors. And yes, she took more than her share of night watches offshore. Love that woman! John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Indigo via CnC-List > wrote: > > Great advice Joel. I would add that the lessons ideally should be in a > smaller, but stable boat. Lessons and time out on our fleet of Ideal 18 > (18ft keelboats) transformed my Admiral. > > -- > Jonathan > Indigo C&C 35III > SOUTHPORT CT > >> On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:09, Joel Aronson via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> >> How comfortable is she sailing the boat? Having sailed with a number of >> girlfriends, I found the more comfortable they were at the helm, the less >> concerned they were with heeling, gusts etc. Have you tried giving her the >> wheel? She can control the heel and you can ease sheets. >> >> FWIW, When I taught sailing, I stonrgly recommended that spouses be in >> different boats because the wives learned and did more. >> >> Perhaps she would benefit from lessons from a friend or sailing school? >> >> Joel >> >> >> >>> On Saturday, September 20, 2014, Chuck S via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> David, >>> Well said. I am learning late in life that many wives don't appreciate >>> when a sailboat heels or as mine says, ". . . don't like when it leans". >>> And what I find challenging and fun about sailing like short tacking >>> through a narrow channel or sailing hard on the wind close hauled, causes >>> my wife anxiety or grief. Just when the wind starts getting good, she >>> usually asks to go somewhere for a swim. >>> >>> I recently went sailing w a friend with the same problem. His wife is very >>> similar to mine. We've all been friends since before we married over twenty >>> five years ago. He wanted to show off his new boat and his wonderful >>> country of Holland. His plan; the guys went sailing for 10 days in Holland >>> while the wives went touring by car through France. I noticed most >>> sailboat crews were guys, many skippers were alone, a very few white haired >>> couples and the same number of twenty-ish couples. My friend and I had a >>> great time sailing whenever possible and remarked several times when the >>> boat was making 8 to 9 knots and heeled to 25 degrees, and we were having >>> fun, "The girls would hate this." One leg on the North Sea, we sailed w >>> just the 110% downwind in 27 knots wind making 9 knots boatspeed. On the >>> return, we had 18 to 20 knots on the nose. Sailing would have taken >>> longer, causing us to miss getting a slip, so we motorsailed w a reefed >>> main making 8.3 knots. The main steadied the boat so she maintained >>> momentum and sliced better through the waves. I remember playing w the >>> vang to get a better shape to the top of the sail, because the boat had no >>> traveller. The girls would have hated it. >>> >>> So, I'm looking for suggestions to keep both the boat and the wife, happy. >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Landfall 38
The 37+ had at least 3 standard keel choices - centerboard, deep and shoal wing. As always people customized them so there are variants on the market. I believe the 34+ was the same although I don't recall ever seeing a centerboard version. John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:40 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" > wrote: > > Unless there is such a thing as a centerboard 37, the 6’7” draft is a killer > for many cruising areas. > Other than that the 37 is very nice J > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > C&C 35 MK I > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:49 PM > To: Berry Fox; C&C List > Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 > > My opinion is that the 37+ is a better choice...that's why I bought one. The > LF38 usually rates ~140 and the 37+ is ~75. The trouble with low ratings is > that you have to be a good enough sailor to sail to them. Every second > counts and every mistake can cost you the race. I had my ass handed to me in > a friendly race by a Pearson 32. They rated 168. It was mostly a down wind > run and they chose a less down wind angle. I doesn't hurt that they have a > kevlar sail and hard bottom paint polished to 1000 grit. > > As for pointing the 37+ can point very high and even power through a pinch. > It is easy to accidentally pinch up because the boat doesn't realy talk back > very much. > > The C&C 30, the C&C 34+, the C&C 36+ and the C&C 37+ are all very similar > layout and design. The C&C 40 seems to be the predecessor to the 37+ and the > C&C 121 is the successor. > > Good luck, > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 16, 2014 9:41 PM, "Berry Fox via CnC-List" > wrote: > Hi, I'm seriously considering a LF38. I'm looking for a performance cruiser > but also want to race. The LF38 looks like a great choice but I'm wondering > about how it sails. I read through the archives and see that several of you > racecan you give me any insights into how your boats perform? What do > they rate in your area and how do they sail to the rating? How well do they > point? Any other insights are appreciated. Thanks in advance, > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm
I was going to say - period of 7.1 seconds is not open ocean and yes, very very mean John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:18 PM, dwight via CnC-List > wrote: > > That would be a mean ocean…and a very mean lake…good weather to stay at home > and enjoy the gardens > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick > G Street via CnC-List > Sent: September 10, 2014 6:09 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Lake Superior storm > > There’s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two > hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 > seconds. > > I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this > should help prove that. I’m just glad I’m not out in it... > > The “Gales of November” are early this year. > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8146 - Release Date: 09/03/14 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List East River trip
Planning a trip down to Jersey City in a few weeks. I've probably done the run from LI Sound to Jersey 20 times - but not in the past 8 years. Anyone have current information on security zones, etc? John Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CNC 115 Shorthanded Sailers
Can't help on the 115 but our 121 is great in light air. Flat water and 10 knots appar = 7+ knots of boat speed on most points. I would expect the 115 to be at least as good. Polars for the 121 are on my site under resources. John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:55 PM, David Roberts via CnC-List > wrote: > > Hey folks, > > Are there any C&C 115 owners out there who cruise shorthanded? We have a crew > on race night but we like to cruise our boats as well. We are currently > racing our Catalina 30. We do pretty well until the wind drop down to 4, 5, 6 > knots. So I am also wondering how the 115 does in light air. We do beer can > and a few port to port races on Lake Michigan. On port to ports our crew will > catch a ride home, then my wife and I will continue on cruising for a week > or so. We were considering a 37+ last year and that still not out of the > question, I am told it too is not a light air boat. You can get everything, I > love the interior design of the 37+ and I understand it does well in 10 and > above. > > > > David Roberts > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?
Now I'm really betting on VZ work (which could be a good thing) John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List > wrote: > > That would be the C&C 37+ named "Gitzi", a 1989 model with a wing keel. If > you look carefully you will notice lots of small changes (like hatches where > winches usually are located) have been made to this boat by this owner. > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1989/C%26C-37-2600937/St-Petersburg/FL/United-States#.U-f5uONdXvg > > >> On 10 August 2014 17:45, Julie McGillivray via CnC-List >> wrote: >> We’re in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+ with opening ports, >> rather than the slender racked ports. I’ve never seen one like this in any >> brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a custom job by >> the prior owner? >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1988 or 1989 C&C 37+/40 with atypical Ports, what gives?
A link to pictures would help. Most likely something a prior owner did but... C&C did a lot of custom work In the later years. John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Julie McGillivray via CnC-List > wrote: > > We’re in the market for a new boat, and came upon a 37+ with opening ports, > rather than the slender racked ports. I’ve never seen one like this in any > brochures or pics. Do you think this was a prototype or just a custom job by > the prior owner? > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Marine ssb installation
Does anyone have experience with the "rope antenna". It certainly appears to be an alternative to using the backstay and does provide options for placement. Is there any reason to not simply wire tie it to the backstay? As it is insulated I don't see an issue from the radio side. Perhaps potential for interference from the backstay itself which in this case remains a part of the boat's electrical grounding system? On a different note - we have always had to place the antenna tuner very near the backstay and by default the autopilot. With this antenna that placement could move to be just forward of the mast, just inboard and aft of the shrouds, etc. Any thoughts on ideal placement? I will be using the KISS counterpoise. Please keep in mind all of this is for a hobby installation that I would like to be fairly permanent. No grand cruising plans in the foreseeable future. Mast is carbon (C&C 121). John Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Ok folks. I'm an accountant. Even by my standards you people are nuts John ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard
Take a look at mastervolt.com No firsthand experience with them but look very interesting. No cheap. John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Paul and Darlene Clarke via CnC-List > wrote: > > My wife and I are beginning to think it may be time to convert our C & C 27, > which we’ve had for 5 years, to a transom-mounted outboard engine from its > original (1972) Atomic 4. Any listers have experience with a project like > this, advice, or suggestions? The boat is sound, of course, as is the rig and > sails, but the A4 engine is requiring infusions of $$ every year, and is not > reliable. Every year we’ve been scuppered, and I want reliability without the > cost of a new inboard… hence the idea to try the outboard route. Thoughts? > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard
Have you considered electric? It really comes down to how much you motor vs. sail. A 27 would be a prime target for electric - either a bolt on "pod" or a motor mounted where the a4 is. Personally I just hate the look of outboards hanging off the transom so am willing to go to extremes to avoid it. John Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Paul and Darlene Clarke via CnC-List > wrote: > > My wife and I are beginning to think it may be time to convert our C & C 27, > which we’ve had for 5 years, to a transom-mounted outboard engine from its > original (1972) Atomic 4. Any listers have experience with a project like > this, advice, or suggestions? The boat is sound, of course, as is the rig and > sails, but the A4 engine is requiring infusions of $$ every year, and is not > reliable. Every year we’ve been scuppered, and I want reliability without the > cost of a new inboard… hence the idea to try the outboard route. Thoughts? > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Shame really. Someone put some money into her. More money to go I'm afraid. John Sent from my iPad > On Jul 31, 2014, at 9:00 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" > wrote: > > Discounted already…….. > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/C-%26-C-Custom-2598240/Sanfrancisco/CA/United-States > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della > Barba, Joe via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:41 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List big $$$ used C&C > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/4585762460.html > > Nice > Expensive > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
