Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread jhnelson via CnC-List 


Drop me a line and I'll send you pictures of what it looks like. I took mine 
out and took pics.
Jhnelson24 at Gmail dot com


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 Original message 
From: Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
Date: 2016-05-20  9:02 AM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Ryan Doyle  
Subject: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support 

Hey everyone,

I've been dealing with some flexing parts of my cabin sole around the bilge 
access panel in my 1976 C&C 30.  I've put some wood shims between the cabin 
sole and the hull fiberglass down there and they help a bit, but don't fix the 
problem.

Because of the odd shape of the space between the cabin sole and the hull 
fiberglass, I keep thinking there might be some sort of hardening foam I could 
inject down there, or some sort of flexible substance that then could harden to 
shore up the floor.  

Does such a thing exist?  Is that a terrible idea for any reason?  Anyone have 
any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Ryan
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Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread jhnelson via CnC-List 


Mine flexed quite a bit. There is a cardboard tube covered in fiberglass that 
runs the length of the main cabin sole starboard side of the bilge access. When 
putting in the teak and holly floor they had drilled though it causing wayer to 
deteriorate the structure and balsa core.I pulled mine, replaced the core with 
divinity core and put it back in place. Now just need to replace the teak and 
holly.


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 Original message 
From: Joseph Bognar via CnC-List  
Date: 2016-05-20  10:43 AM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joseph Bognar  
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support 

I find it odd that your cabin sole flexes so much. Have you checked your mast 
step . If it has dropped or the wood support is rotten as it sits in water then 
it may be the cause of your weak sole . I own a 1979 era 30 and my cabin sole 
is solid . I also have teak and holly through out the cabin . Instead of foam 
you could epoxy in some hard wood wedges in the troublesome area. I would 
investigate it more as to why it is so weak though 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On May 20, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I've been dealing with some flexing parts of my cabin sole around the bilge 
> access panel in my 1976 C&C 30.  I've put some wood shims between the cabin 
> sole and the hull fiberglass down there and they help a bit, but don't fix 
> the problem.
> 
> Because of the odd shape of the space between the cabin sole and the hull 
> fiberglass, I keep thinking there might be some sort of hardening foam I 
> could inject down there, or some sort of flexible substance that then could 
> harden to shore up the floor.  
> 
> Does such a thing exist?  Is that a terrible idea for any reason?  Anyone 
> have any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ryan
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Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
Hey Joseph,

Thanks.  The mast step is not soft.  It's the areas of the cabin sole
several inches aft of the step and just next to either side of the
bilge access panel.


*Joseph Bognar* jbognar at sympatico.ca

*Fri May 20 09:43:36 EDT 2016*


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I find it odd that your cabin sole flexes so much. Have you checked
your mast step . If it has dropped or the wood support is rotten as it
sits in water then it may be the cause of your weak sole . I own a
1979 era 30 and my cabin sole is solid . I also have teak and holly
through out the cabin . Instead of foam you could epoxy in some hard
wood wedges in the troublesome area. I would investigate it more as to
why it is so weak though

Sent from Joe Bognar
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Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List 
Steve,

Thanks.  Yeah my worry with regular gap filling foam was that it would absorb 
water, get nasty, then quickly deteriorate.  I was wondering if there was 
something new out there I hadn't heard of that was strong and water-resistant.  
That said, you raise a very good point about unintentionally trapping water.  
Fiberglass sounds like the way to go. 

After speaking with Harry just now I am going to do what he did - buy a thick 
fiberglass piece from McMaster Carr, rout out pieces to fit, and west system 
epoxy them in place.

Thanks guys!

Ryan

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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 8:31:05 -0400
> From: Steve Thomas 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support
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> I would be very reluctant to use any sort of spray or pour foam in a bilge. 
> It is almost certain to saturate when it gets wet and cause problems down the 
> road. Aside from that, they tend to not have all that much structural 
> strength. Why not just use fiberglass? Another consideration would be that 
> you don't want to create areas where water pools and can't drain out. 
> 
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII
> C&C36 MKI
> 
> 
>  Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  wrote: 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I've been dealing with some flexing parts of my cabin sole around the bilge 
> access panel in my 1976 C&C 30.  I've put some wood shims between the cabin 
> sole and the hull fiberglass down there and they help a bit, but don't fix 
> the problem.
> 
> Because of the odd shape of the space between the cabin sole and the hull 
> fiberglass, I keep thinking there might be some sort of hardening foam I 
> could inject down there, or some sort of flexible substance that then could 
> harden to shore up the floor.  
> 
> Does such a thing exist?  Is that a terrible idea for any reason?  Anyone 
> have any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ryan
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> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
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> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List 
I find it odd that your cabin sole flexes so much. Have you checked your mast 
step . If it has dropped or the wood support is rotten as it sits in water then 
it may be the cause of your weak sole . I own a 1979 era 30 and my cabin sole 
is solid . I also have teak and holly through out the cabin . Instead of foam 
you could epoxy in some hard wood wedges in the troublesome area. I would 
investigate it more as to why it is so weak though 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On May 20, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I've been dealing with some flexing parts of my cabin sole around the bilge 
> access panel in my 1976 C&C 30.  I've put some wood shims between the cabin 
> sole and the hull fiberglass down there and they help a bit, but don't fix 
> the problem.
> 
> Because of the odd shape of the space between the cabin sole and the hull 
> fiberglass, I keep thinking there might be some sort of hardening foam I 
> could inject down there, or some sort of flexible substance that then could 
> harden to shore up the floor.  
> 
> Does such a thing exist?  Is that a terrible idea for any reason?  Anyone 
> have any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ryan
> ___
> 
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> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
> are greatly appreciated!

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Re: Stus-List 30mki cabin sole support

2016-05-20 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
I would be very reluctant to use any sort of spray or pour foam in a bilge. It 
is almost certain to saturate when it gets wet and cause problems down the 
road. Aside from that, they tend to not have all that much structural strength. 
Why not just use fiberglass? Another consideration would be that you don't want 
to create areas where water pools and can't drain out. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
C&C36 MKI


 Ryan Doyle via CnC-List  wrote: 
Hey everyone,

I've been dealing with some flexing parts of my cabin sole around the bilge 
access panel in my 1976 C&C 30.  I've put some wood shims between the cabin 
sole and the hull fiberglass down there and they help a bit, but don't fix the 
problem.

Because of the odd shape of the space between the cabin sole and the hull 
fiberglass, I keep thinking there might be some sort of hardening foam I could 
inject down there, or some sort of flexible substance that then could harden to 
shore up the floor.  

Does such a thing exist?  Is that a terrible idea for any reason?  Anyone have 
any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Ryan
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