Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Dennis;

 

You may recall that I became a Yanmar & Cummins certified diesel technician 
while I was doing technical training in the industrial equipment industry. As a 
result I abhor dust. A factory or an dusty work yard are a lot more severe than 
the environment in our engine compartment, but even a small amount of dust can 
play hell with the valves and the rings of a diesel engine. The forklift 
manufacturer I worked for spent several hundred thousand dollars replacing 
“dusted” Cummins engines that resulted from a small crack in the air intake 
hose that resulted from improper assembly.

 

Consequently I wanted to eliminate the oiled metal filter on the Universal M35B 
in Imzadi. Just happens that the Beta diesels are based on the same Kubota 
engines as the Universals – at least for the recent models. The 4 cylinder 35HP 
Beta is the same basic Kubota engine as my M35B. Ditto for the three cylinder 
engines. I bought a Beta Marine air cleaner housing (which was a bit pricey) 
which uses a replaceable automotive paper air cleaner element.

 

Not as cheap as the K alternative, but you might want to look into that.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>; CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

 

Paul, that's interesting.  More research turned up this:

 

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

 

Doesn't speak highly of K filters.  H.

 

Dennis C.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
Dennis, one of the biggest reasons for getting rid of the k is living aboard 
I have no place to wash them. Plus the one on my truck went through a carb 
fire. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 3/4/17  16:23  (GMT-08:00) To: CnClist 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels 
Doug,
I'd do some more research first.  I found several articles supporting K 
products.  However, none seemed to have data.  
Dennis C.
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 5:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Very interesting article. Taking the k & n filters off this week. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 3/4/17  12:57  (GMT-08:00) To: Paul Wyand 
<miatap...@gmail.com> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>, CnClist 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based 
diesels 
Paul, that's interesting.  More research turned up this:
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

Doesn't speak highly of K filters.  H.
Dennis C.
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Paul Wyand <miatap...@gmail.com> wrote:
For a road going car I would not use a K filter, as they let too much dirt 
through, though for an on-board marine diesel, I see no issues. Likely better 
than the original. I know on gas motors they require a metal flame arrester, 
but that is not required on a diesel. 

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
I was ordering some onboard spare parts for my Universal 25XPB diesel when I 
couldn't find a part number for the foam pre-filter element that goes on the 
outside of the metal air intake screem assembly.  In my research I found a 
thread about an OEM metal intake screen assembly that had deteriorated and spun 
off some small metal parts.  Not good. I inspected my intake screen and it 
looked good. However, it gave me a bit of concern.  
A new metal air screen assembly is >$70.

A bit more probing on the Web turned up a nice comforting solution for 1/2 the 
price.  A non-metal air filter made by K  The RU-2450 has a 1.75 inch ID 
which fits the smaller Kubota diesels.  I measured the intake for my Universal 
25XPB at 1.75 inches.  It apparently will fit the M25 and M30 diesels also but 
measure your intake to be sure.
https://www.amazon.com/RU-2450-Universal-Rubber-Filter/dp/B00062YQRA

I've used K permanent air filters on my car and trucks for years.  Why not 
Touche's diesel?  I already use a K oil filter on it.
The very favorable reviews on the Amazon listing specifically mention Kubota 
based diesels.  A couple mention noise reduction also.  
Just an FYI for those of you that have Kubota based diesels.  :)
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Doug,

I'd do some more research first.  I found several articles supporting K
products.  However, none seemed to have data.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 5:33 PM, svpegasus38 via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Very interesting article. Taking the k & n filters off this week.
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy
> POYC
> Pegasus
> Lf38
>
>  Original message 
> From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 3/4/17 12:57 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Paul Wyand <miatap...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>, CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels
>
> Paul, that's interesting.  More research turned up this:
>
> http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html
>
> Doesn't speak highly of K filters.  H.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Paul Wyand <miatap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For a road going car I would not use a K filter, as they let too much
>> dirt through, though for an on-board marine diesel, I see no issues. Likely
>> better than the original. I know on gas motors they require a metal flame
>> arrester, but that is not required on a diesel.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was ordering some onboard spare parts for my Universal 25XPB diesel
>>> when I couldn't find a part number for the foam pre-filter element that
>>> goes on the outside of the metal air intake screem assembly.  In my
>>> research I found a thread about an OEM metal intake screen assembly that
>>> had deteriorated and spun off some small metal parts.  Not good. I
>>> inspected my intake screen and it looked good. However, it gave me a bit of
>>> concern.
>>>
>>> A new metal air screen assembly is >$70.
>>>
>>> A bit more probing on the Web turned up a nice comforting solution for
>>> 1/2 the price.  A non-metal air filter made by K  The RU-2450 has a 1.75
>>> inch ID which fits the smaller Kubota diesels.  I measured the intake for
>>> my Universal 25XPB at 1.75 inches.  It apparently will fit the M25 and M30
>>> diesels also but measure your intake to be sure.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/RU-2450-Universal-Rubber-Filter/dp/B00062YQRA
>>>
>>> I've used K permanent air filters on my car and trucks for years.  Why
>>> not Touche's diesel?  I already use a K oil filter on it.
>>>
>>> The very favorable reviews on the Amazon listing specifically mention
>>> Kubota based diesels.  A couple mention noise reduction also.
>>>
>>> Just an FYI for those of you that have Kubota based diesels.  :)
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
>>>
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>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List 
Very interesting article. Taking the k & n filters off this week. 


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceDoug Mountjoy POYC Pegasus Lf38 
 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 3/4/17  12:57  (GMT-08:00) To: Paul Wyand 
<miatap...@gmail.com> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>, CnClist 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based 
diesels 
Paul, that's interesting.  More research turned up this:
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

Doesn't speak highly of K filters.  H.
Dennis C.
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Paul Wyand <miatap...@gmail.com> wrote:
For a road going car I would not use a K filter, as they let too much dirt 
through, though for an on-board marine diesel, I see no issues. Likely better 
than the original. I know on gas motors they require a metal flame arrester, 
but that is not required on a diesel. 

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
I was ordering some onboard spare parts for my Universal 25XPB diesel when I 
couldn't find a part number for the foam pre-filter element that goes on the 
outside of the metal air intake screem assembly.  In my research I found a 
thread about an OEM metal intake screen assembly that had deteriorated and spun 
off some small metal parts.  Not good. I inspected my intake screen and it 
looked good. However, it gave me a bit of concern.  
A new metal air screen assembly is >$70.

A bit more probing on the Web turned up a nice comforting solution for 1/2 the 
price.  A non-metal air filter made by K  The RU-2450 has a 1.75 inch ID 
which fits the smaller Kubota diesels.  I measured the intake for my Universal 
25XPB at 1.75 inches.  It apparently will fit the M25 and M30 diesels also but 
measure your intake to be sure.
https://www.amazon.com/RU-2450-Universal-Rubber-Filter/dp/B00062YQRA

I've used K permanent air filters on my car and trucks for years.  Why not 
Touche's diesel?  I already use a K oil filter on it.
The very favorable reviews on the Amazon listing specifically mention Kubota 
based diesels.  A couple mention noise reduction also.  
Just an FYI for those of you that have Kubota based diesels.  :)
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Paul, that's interesting.  More research turned up this:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

Doesn't speak highly of K filters.  H.

Dennis C.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Paul Wyand  wrote:

> For a road going car I would not use a K filter, as they let too much
> dirt through, though for an on-board marine diesel, I see no issues. Likely
> better than the original. I know on gas motors they require a metal flame
> arrester, but that is not required on a diesel.
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I was ordering some onboard spare parts for my Universal 25XPB diesel
>> when I couldn't find a part number for the foam pre-filter element that
>> goes on the outside of the metal air intake screem assembly.  In my
>> research I found a thread about an OEM metal intake screen assembly that
>> had deteriorated and spun off some small metal parts.  Not good. I
>> inspected my intake screen and it looked good. However, it gave me a bit of
>> concern.
>>
>> A new metal air screen assembly is >$70.
>>
>> A bit more probing on the Web turned up a nice comforting solution for
>> 1/2 the price.  A non-metal air filter made by K  The RU-2450 has a 1.75
>> inch ID which fits the smaller Kubota diesels.  I measured the intake for
>> my Universal 25XPB at 1.75 inches.  It apparently will fit the M25 and M30
>> diesels also but measure your intake to be sure.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/RU-2450-Universal-Rubber-Filter/dp/B00062YQRA
>>
>> I've used K permanent air filters on my car and trucks for years.  Why
>> not Touche's diesel?  I already use a K oil filter on it.
>>
>> The very favorable reviews on the Amazon listing specifically mention
>> Kubota based diesels.  A couple mention noise reduction also.
>>
>> Just an FYI for those of you that have Kubota based diesels.  :)
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
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>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to:
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>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Air filter for Kubota based diesels

2017-03-04 Thread Paul Wyand via CnC-List 
For a road going car I would not use a K filter, as they let too much
dirt through, though for an on-board marine diesel, I see no issues. Likely
better than the original. I know on gas motors they require a metal flame
arrester, but that is not required on a diesel.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was ordering some onboard spare parts for my Universal 25XPB diesel when
> I couldn't find a part number for the foam pre-filter element that goes on
> the outside of the metal air intake screem assembly.  In my research I
> found a thread about an OEM metal intake screen assembly that had
> deteriorated and spun off some small metal parts.  Not good. I inspected my
> intake screen and it looked good. However, it gave me a bit of concern.
>
> A new metal air screen assembly is >$70.
>
> A bit more probing on the Web turned up a nice comforting solution for 1/2
> the price.  A non-metal air filter made by K  The RU-2450 has a 1.75
> inch ID which fits the smaller Kubota diesels.  I measured the intake for
> my Universal 25XPB at 1.75 inches.  It apparently will fit the M25 and M30
> diesels also but measure your intake to be sure.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/RU-2450-Universal-Rubber-Filter/dp/B00062YQRA
>
> I've used K permanent air filters on my car and trucks for years.  Why
> not Touche's diesel?  I already use a K oil filter on it.
>
> The very favorable reviews on the Amazon listing specifically mention
> Kubota based diesels.  A couple mention noise reduction also.
>
> Just an FYI for those of you that have Kubota based diesels.  :)
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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