Re: Stus-List America’s Cup

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Defiant looks awesome. They stated in a video that the boat foiled in her first 
90 minutes of being on the water. The video shows her turning at speed and 
looking very steady proving they are doing many things right. I'm a huge fan of 
Americas Cup cause it pushes the possibilities of sailing, keeps designers and 
builders busy, and is very entertaining. Foiling has been around a while but 
recent developments have produced foils that work at low speeds like standup 
paddle boards and even surfboards. The other night I watched an hour long 
documentary of Larry Ellison winning the cup back from the Swiss several years 
before the foiling catamarans. I also watched a video of a guy in Truro, 
England (Poldark area) building fifty foot Pilot Cutters in wood and training 
young people to be builders. BTW, my boat takes her name from an Americas Cup 
defender of 1920, Resolute. She was short on the waterline with a bigger than 
normal sailplan and struggled but kept the cup. She was gaff rigged with three 
headsails and designed by Nat Herreshoff who designed and raced the first 
catamaran and designed the first fin keel w bulb. If he were alive today, I'm 
sure he would be testing all the cutting edge materials and designing foils.

The new AC boats will be 75 feet long, foiling monohulls, no keel, no 
centerboards, the foils are attached to arms that rotate the windward foil up 
to act as a counterweight. Eleven man crews. New Zealand is defending against 
America, England and Italy, so there will be four boats. The races are in 2021 
so they have two years to practice and improve the designs.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1990 C&C 34R, Pasadena, Md


> On September 17, 2019 at 5:11 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am not a big fan of the foiling AC boats of any length. 
> 
> However, I love the name of the US entry, Defiant. Win or lose, she 
> carries a great name like many of the old sailing ships of the seafaring 
> nations of the world.
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> S/V Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb
> 
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Re: Stus-List America’s Cup

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Sorry, I’m with Charlie.  AC races should be about crews, not engineers.

I’m all in favor of engineering breakthroughs, but the competitors should all 
be in the same boat and the race test the crew and cut of their sails.

Neil
1982 C&C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661


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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List America’s Cup

Defiant looks awesome. They stated in a video that the boat foiled in her first 
90 minutes of being on the water. The video shows her turning at speed and 
looking very steady proving they are doing many things right. I'm a huge fan of 
Americas Cup cause it pushes the possibilities of sailing, keeps designers and 
builders busy, and is very entertaining. Foiling has been around a while but 
recent developments have produced foils that work at low speeds like standup 
paddle boards and even surfboards. The other night I watched an hour long 
documentary of Larry Ellison winning the cup back from the Swiss several years 
before the foiling catamarans. I also watched a video of a guy in Truro, 
England (Poldark area) building fifty foot Pilot Cutters in wood and training 
young people to be builders. BTW, my boat takes her name from an Americas Cup 
defender of 1920, Resolute. She was short on the waterline with a bigger than 
normal sailplan and struggled but kept the cup. She was gaff rigged with three 
headsails and designed by Nat Herreshoff who designed and raced the first 
catamaran and designed the first fin keel w bulb. If he were alive today, I'm 
sure he would be testing all the cutting edge materials and designing foils.

The new AC boats will be 75 feet long, foiling monohulls, no keel, no 
centerboards, the foils are attached to arms that rotate the windward foil up 
to act as a counterweight. Eleven man crews. New Zealand is defending against 
America, England and Italy, so there will be four boats. The races are in 2021 
so they have two years to practice and improve the designs.

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1990 C&C 34R, Pasadena, Md

On September 17, 2019 at 5:11 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I am not a big fan of the foiling AC boats of any length.

However, I love the name of the US entry, Defiant. Win or lose, she carries a 
great name like many of the old sailing ships of the seafaring nations of the 
world.

Charlie Nelson
S/V Water Phantom
1995 C&C 36XL/kcb


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