Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Ryan Doyle via CnC-List]

Hey Randy,

I have 30-1 hull number 377.  She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75.

I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the 
V-berth and the head.  I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it 
would probably be a tight fit.

I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi 
posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki 
which I thought was pretty cool.  I don't remember seeing a door option on it.  
Not sure what year it's from:
> https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html
> 


Ryan Doyle
S/V Nobody's Bargain
1976 C 30mki #377
New York


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C Sailors- 

I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. 

The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance. 

Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the 
brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's 
higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by 
differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch 
her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30 MK1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO ___

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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Thanks Aaron, Gary, Michael, Ryan. That optional equipment list didn't show any 
options for interior doors. Interestingly, however, it did show an option for a 
boom vang :) 

I will assume my boat either didn't come with a door between head and v-berth, 
or the door was removed and not replaced by a former owner (I can look for 
evidence of that). I'll probably want one and fabricate one - add that to the 
project list :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Michael Brown via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Michael Brown" <m...@tkg.ca> 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:38:37 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors 

I have a C 30 "77" model year. 
>From my HIN ZCC304531076 I would guess it is #453 laid up October 1976. 

I have the sliding door and after a few years of ownership the PO dropped off 
the 
folding door that the PPO had removed. 

At haulout, so no mast and most stuff removed the crane weighs me at 8500 - 
8800 lbs. 
Some of the C specs claimed 7,900 lbs which may have been possible stripped 
out, 
one battery and tiller steering. I think in race trim carrying stuff like 
flares, anchor and rode, 
#1 - #3 - spinnakers, spin and whisker pole  I would guess 10,000 lbs is 
reasonable. 


Also - from your other post on boom vangs - the early C 30 have a very low 
boom so 
the mounting angle needs to be considered. The distance on the mast from the 
gooseneck 
to above the mast collar is pretty minimal. Most boom vang installation 
instructions suggest 
a minimum angle they should be mounted at and that usually isn't possible on 
the early 30s. 
I have an Easykick II installed that works OK and does support the boom ( a 
racing requirement ). 
Downwind we use it to control boom lift, and upwind it is useful for setting 
depth and twist. 
I would recommend installing one, doesn't have to be fancy or expensive. I very 
much doubt 
given the short distance on the mast it operates over and the stiffness of the 
mast that any 
significant mast bend is generated. 

Michael Brown 
Windburn 
C 30-1 



C Sailors- 

I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. 

The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance. 

Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the 
brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's 
higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by 
differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch 
her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30 MK1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 




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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Rick Bushie via CnC-List]

Anchovy has a hinged bi-fold door between the v-berth and the head. The hinges 
are on the hanging locker side and is held either open or closed with a simple 
hook and eye assembly.  As far as displacement, I really couldn't say as I've 
never weighed her. 

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 1971 30-1, Hull 1
Worton, MD

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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

FYI, The equipment list came with my boat and it's from 1979.


Cheers,
Aaron R.
Admiral Maggie,
1979 C 30 MK1 #540
Annapolis, MD


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Hey Randy,



I have 30-1 hull number 377.  She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75.



I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the 
V-berth and the head.  I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it 
would probably be a tight fit.



I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi 
posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki 
which I thought was pretty cool.  I don't remember seeing a door option on it.  
Not sure what year it's from:

https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html



Ryan Doyle

S/V Nobody's Bargain

1976 C 30mki #377

New York





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C Sailors-

I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community.

The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance.

Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat 
data.com<http://data.com/> and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous 
owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her 
precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded 
trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30 MK1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

My 35 MKII came with a door that hinges in the middle, so it stores
like half a door against the port bulkead where its primary hinges are
located and its bottom is about 18 inches above the cabin sole...you
could probably fabricate something similar for the 30 MKI
Dwight Veinot
C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net



On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
 wrote:
> Hey Randy,
>
> I have 30-1 hull number 377.  She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75.
>
> I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the
> V-berth and the head.  I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it
> would probably be a tight fit.
>
> I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi
> posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki
> which I thought was pretty cool.  I don't remember seeing a door option on
> it.  Not sure what year it's from:
>>
>> https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html
>
>
> Ryan Doyle
> S/V Nobody's Bargain
> 1976 C 30mki #377
> New York
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC)
> From: randy.staff...@comcast.net
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> C Sailors-
>
> I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list.
> It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this
> community.
>
> The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon
> and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C
> 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and
> head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth.
> Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in
> later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner
> and never replaced. Thanks in advance.
>
> Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the
> brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's
> higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by
> differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I
> launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Later versions (1980) have a hinged door between the salon and head areas and a 
double hinged door between the v-berth and the head. I’m not sure whether that 
was standard or optional – I think that list may be in my paperwork.

 

Gary Nylander #593

 

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Hey Randy,





I have 30-1 hull number 377.  She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75.





I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the 
V-berth and the head.  I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it 
would probably be a tight fit.





I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi 
posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki 
which I thought was pretty cool.  I don't remember seeing a door option on it.  
Not sure what year it's from:

 <https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html> 
https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html





Ryan Doyle

S/V Nobody's Bargain

1976 C 30mki #377

New York









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C Sailors- 

I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. 

The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance. 

Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com 
<http://data.com/>  and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner 
of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise 
displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer 
after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30 MK1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I dug up my Owners Manual – it doesn’t have the lists, but the line diagram of 
the boat shows the swinging door and double doors as I described. My owners 
manual has various updates listed but that particular page isn’t dated. 

 

Gary

 

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Later versions (1980) have a hinged door between the salon and head areas and a 
double hinged door between the v-berth and the head. I’m not sure whether that 
was standard or optional – I think that list may be in my paperwork.

 

Gary Nylander #593

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

 

Hey Randy,

 

I have 30-1 hull number 377.  She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75.

 

I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the 
V-berth and the head.  I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it 
would probably be a tight fit.

 

I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi 
posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki 
which I thought was pretty cool.  I don't remember seeing a door option on it.  
Not sure what year it's from:

 <https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html> 
https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html

 

Ryan Doyle

S/V Nobody's Bargain

1976 C 30mki #377

New York

 

 

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C Sailors- 

I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. 

The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance. 

Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com 
<http://data.com/>  and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner 
of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise 
displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer 
after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. 

Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30 MK1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I have a C 30  "77" model year.
>From my HIN ZCC304531076 I would guess it is #453 laid up October 1976.

I have the sliding door and after a few years of ownership the PO dropped off 
the
folding door that the PPO had removed.

At haulout, so no mast and most stuff removed the crane weighs me at 8500 - 
8800 lbs.
Some of the C specs claimed 7,900 lbs which may have been possible stripped 
out,
one battery and tiller steering. I think in race trim carrying stuff like 
flares, anchor and rode,
#1 - #3 - spinnakers, spin and whisker pole  I would guess 10,000 lbs is 
reasonable.


  Also - from your other post on boom vangs - the early C 30 have a very low 
boom so
the mounting angle needs to be considered. The distance on the mast from the 
gooseneck
to above the mast collar is pretty minimal. Most boom vang installation 
instructions suggest
a minimum angle they should be mounted at and that usually isn't possible on 
the early 30s.
I have an Easykick II installed that works OK and does support the boom ( a 
racing requirement ).
Downwind we use it to control boom lift, and upwind it is useful for setting 
depth and twist.
I would recommend installing one, doesn't have to be fancy or expensive. I very 
much doubt
given the short distance on the mast it operates over and the stiffness of the 
mast that any
significant mast bend is generated. 

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


C Sailors-  
 
I noticed the owner of C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's 
awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community.  
 
The C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and 
the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C 30 MK1 
brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and 
a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone 
know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull 
numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never 
replaced. Thanks in advance.  
 
Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the 
brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's 
higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by 
differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch 
her this spring, but just wanted to check with you.  
 
Cheers,  
Randy Stafford  
S/V Grenadine  
C 30 MK1 #7  
Ken Caryl, CO  
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