Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Did you price kit at Depco Pumps?

Dennis C.

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> On Mar 9, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the shower 
> sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
> 
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
> 
> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and down, 
> but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a chance 
> to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are $99 USD at 
> defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo pump.
> 
> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider purchasing 
> (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally pumping out a 
> shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Well I took it apart and there was no clog (in any of the lines, pick up
etc) and rubber looked serviceable but is stiff and probably why it's not
pulling. In lieu of the $100 replacement parts, I am likely to take the
advice and replace it with a small Rule bilge pump assuming I have the
clearance to fit it. I hesitate to run it into the bilge unless I need to
though I am not above this solution.

If anyone needs a good diapraghm pump in need of a rebuild, let me know and
I will swing you a deal.

Thanks,

Kevin

30-2
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, 5:00 PM Ken Heaton  wrote:

> Usually, if the diaphragm isn't ruptured, the problem is a little bit of
> dirt or hair in the intake or outlet valves.
>
> Definitely worth taking it apart for a looksee first.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 9 March 2015 at 18:03, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the
>> shower sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
>>
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-
>> 4gpm-3-4-port--109951
>>
>> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and
>> down, but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a
>> chance to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are
>> $99 USD at defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo
>> pump.
>>
>> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider
>> purchasing (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally
>> pumping out a shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Allan Rheaume via CnC-List]

Have you tried cleaning both the brass pick up in the shower basin as well as 
the screened filter plumbed in just before the pump? Works every time for me.
Allan30-2 #90

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I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the shower sump 
in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and down, but 
no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a chance to 
open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are $99 USD at 
defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo pump.
Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider purchasing 
(other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally pumping out a 
shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
Thanks
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

This is the newer (and cheaper) model of my original pump.

http://www.amazon.com/AMRS-2901-0213-Shurflo-Junior-Fresh-Water/dp/B00NJU3K1E

Here is the replacement pump.

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--4-0-washdown-pump-kit--13997978

The original was marketed as a potable water pump and may be used for
general water transfer.  The replacement has worked for 2 seasons now.

Josh
On Mar 9, 2015 8:00 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Usually, if the diaphragm isn't ruptured, the problem is a little bit of
> dirt or hair in the intake or outlet valves.
>
> Definitely worth taking it apart for a looksee first.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 9 March 2015 at 18:03, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the
>> shower sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
>>
>> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and
>> down, but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a
>> chance to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are
>> $99 USD at defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo
>> pump.
>>
>> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider
>> purchasing (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally
>> pumping out a shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

To add to Ken's possibility of dirt, the rubber can also lose it's
flexibility and take on a set.  As for spending $100 dollars on a rebuild
kit... it seems like a low percentage of the replacement cost.

My dewatering pump was a tri-plex diaphram style and it stopped pumping
because of the diaphrams loosing flex.  Being mid voyage I needed a
solution "last night", literally.  My poor wife stood there half covered in
soap for 10-15 minutes before I gave up trying to fix the pump.  Deck
showers in 40° spring air are not the sought after adventures she was
looking for.  At the next port we promptly found a West Marine which had a
special on deck washdown kits.  A quick comparison showed that it was a
similar pump design to what we already had with a higher volume & PSI, and
lower price than it's counterparts on the shelf.  Coincidentally $99.  And
it came with a coil hose, pistol grip spray handle, and quick disconnects
all around.

The wash down pump was a comfortable fit with no significant challenges.
It is a bit louder than the original which was labeled "ShurQuiet" made by
Shur pumps.  Once we got home and had time, I found the original pump cost
$~240 which made buying the rebuild kit for $65 a pretty easy decision.
I've since been considering reusing it as a low volume bildge pump for
removing the small amount of water that gets left by the Rule 500.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 9, 2015 8:00 PM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Usually, if the diaphragm isn't ruptured, the problem is a little bit of
> dirt or hair in the intake or outlet valves.
>
> Definitely worth taking it apart for a looksee first.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 9 March 2015 at 18:03, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the
>> shower sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
>>
>> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and
>> down, but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a
>> chance to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are
>> $99 USD at defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo
>> pump.
>>
>> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider
>> purchasing (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally
>> pumping out a shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Usually, if the diaphragm isn't ruptured, the problem is a little bit of
dirt or hair in the intake or outlet valves.

Definitely worth taking it apart for a looksee first.

Ken H.

On 9 March 2015 at 18:03, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List  wrote:

> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the shower
> sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
>
> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and down,
> but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a
> chance to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are
> $99 USD at defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo
> pump.
>
> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider purchasing
> (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally pumping out
> a shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[robert via CnC-List]

Kevin:

Something like this would work just fineI have something similar for 
my shower pump:


 
http://ca.binnacle.com/Plumbing-&-Pumps-Fresh-Water-Pumps/c31_259/p3234/FLOJET-4405-3.3-GPM-QUAD-II-DIAPHRAGM-SERIES-WATER-PUMP/product_info.html

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-03-09 6:03 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List wrote:
I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the 
shower sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:


http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951

It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and 
down, but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't 
had a chance to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but 
they are $99 USD at defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber 
for a 25 yo pump.


Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider 
purchasing (other than a hand pump) that would work for very 
occasionally pumping out a shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.


Thanks


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Re: Stus-List Jabsco Shower Sump Pump Replacement

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Kevin,

I had the same problem — had one, never worked quite right, a big deal to 
replace.

My cost-saving solution? I made a drain opening so that the shower drains into 
the bilge. Cost: $5.00. Time: 10 minutes.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 













> On Mar 9, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got a Jabsco 36970, 2.8gpm diaphragm pump for emptying out the shower 
> sump in the head of our 30-2.Similar to this one:
> 
> http://www.westmarine.com/buy/jabsco--diaphragm-bilge-pump-4gpm-3-4-port--109951
>  
> 
> 
> It hasn't worked since got the boat (gets juice, piston moves up and down, 
> but no suction. I took it off the boat this weekend but haven't had a chance 
> to open it up yet. I presume it needs a service kit, but they are $99 USD at 
> defender. Which seems like a lot of $ for rubber for a 25 yo pump.
> 
> Question is: Is there an alternative pump that I might consider purchasing 
> (other than a hand pump) that would work for very occasionally pumping out a 
> shower sump? Ideally cheaper is better.
> 
> Thanks
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