Re: Stus-List Masthead surprise!
Hi Dennis, Is there a trick to getting that new line or cable run down the mast without crossing hayards? I used the bicycle chain method to fish a new genoa halyard but I later wondered if it was run fair and not tangled around another halyard. Any tips would be apreciated. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" To: "CnClist" Cc: "Dennis C." Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:46:17 PM Subject: Stus-List Masthead surprise! I was aloft putting a Windex light on Touche' today. I drilled a hole in the side of the mast about 4 inches below the masthead to drop the power cable. When the drill burst through, a lot of dust and dirt came out. A bit of exploring and digging with a screwdriver revealed a bunch of dried mud. Since to my knowledge, nobody has ever buried Touche's mast in the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain, I decided on a different scenario. I guess a bunch of dirt daubers had filled the top 4-5 inches of the mast with mud nests. Had to dig under the hole with Special Tool WCH (wire coat hanger) to clear a path to drop the messenger line. Couldn't help but think about all the racers (including me) who try to minimize weight aloft only to have a bunch of pesky insects negate some of your efforts. :) BTW, we broke the messenger line so we'll give it another try Wednesday. That was a first. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Masthead surprise!
Just make sure all the halyards are tight. I drop a bicycle chain on 80 lb mono-filament. When it hits bottom, jiggle it up and down a few times to make sure it's moving freely before the deck person grabs it. I pull another messenger made of parachute cord up to then pull the cable down. It sound like an extra step but it works. You don't want any lumps in the pull. If I'm pulling a duplex cable, I cut the sheath and cut about a foot off one of the wires. The parachute cord is then whipped to the other wire with dental floss. Wrap the joint with electrical tape. Overlapping the cord and one wire makes a smooth joint which doesn't hang up on halyards. If you're dropping a single wire, tie dental floss around the wire and the messenger with a small gap. This is one reason we switch to parachute cord from the mono-filament. Trying to tie dental floss to mono-filament has a low rate of success. The mast person and deck person have to work together. The two of you need to keep the pull tight. That is, the mast person feeds as the deck person pulls. If you get slack in the cable or messenger, it might form a loop and hang behind a halyard or another wire. You might find a hemostat handy for pulling the messenger out of the bottom. I violated nearly all of the above this time, I couldn't find my chain and used a clevis pin then just tried to pull the cable down with the monofilament. My helper and I didn't keep the pull taut. Being lazy and paid the price. My rigger buddy was busy and I had a dock neighbor help. My rigger buddy and I are a well oiled team with 100% success. It really does make a difference when you both know what the drill is. Dennis C. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Dennis, > Is there a trick to getting that new line or cable run down the mast > without crossing hayards? I used the bicycle chain method to fish a new > genoa halyard but I later wondered if it was run fair and not tangled > around another halyard. Any tips would be apreciated. > > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md > > -- > *From: *"Dennis C. via CnC-List" > *To: *"CnClist" > *Cc: *"Dennis C." > *Sent: *Monday, April 25, 2016 10:46:17 PM > *Subject: *Stus-List Masthead surprise! > > > I was aloft putting a Windex light on Touche' today. I drilled a hole in > the side of the mast about 4 inches below the masthead to drop the power > cable. When the drill burst through, a lot of dust and dirt came out. > > A bit of exploring and digging with a screwdriver revealed a bunch of > dried mud. Since to my knowledge, nobody has ever buried Touche's mast in > the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain, I decided on a different scenario. I > guess a bunch of dirt daubers had filled the top 4-5 inches of the mast > with mud nests. Had to dig under the hole with Special Tool WCH (wire coat > hanger) to clear a path to drop the messenger line. > > Couldn't help but think about all the racers (including me) who try to > minimize weight aloft only to have a bunch of pesky insects negate some of > your efforts. :) > > BTW, we broke the messenger line so we'll give it another try Wednesday. > That was a first. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All > Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All > Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Masthead surprise!
Thx - Original Message - From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" To: "CnClist" Cc: "Dennis C." Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:42:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Masthead surprise! Just make sure all the halyards are tight. I drop a bicycle chain on 80 lb mono-filament. When it hits bottom, jiggle it up and down a few times to make sure it's moving freely before the deck person grabs it. I pull another messenger made of parachute cord up to then pull the cable down. It sound like an extra step but it works. You don't want any lumps in the pull. If I'm pulling a duplex cable, I cut the sheath and cut about a foot off one of the wires. The parachute cord is then whipped to the other wire with dental floss. Wrap the joint with electrical tape. Overlapping the cord and one wire makes a smooth joint which doesn't hang up on halyards. If you're dropping a single wire, tie dental floss around the wire and the messenger with a small gap. This is one reason we switch to parachute cord from the mono-filament. Trying to tie dental floss to mono-filament has a low rate of success. The mast person and deck person have to work together. The two of you need to keep the pull tight. That is, the mast person feeds as the deck person pulls. If you get slack in the cable or messenger, it might form a loop and hang behind a halyard or another wire. You might find a hemostat handy for pulling the messenger out of the bottom. I violated nearly all of the above this time, I couldn't find my chain and used a clevis pin then just tried to pull the cable down with the monofilament. My helper and I didn't keep the pull taut. Being lazy and paid the price. My rigger buddy was busy and I had a dock neighbor help. My rigger buddy and I are a well oiled team with 100% success. It really does make a difference when you both know what the drill is. Dennis C. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: Hi Dennis, Is there a trick to getting that new line or cable run down the mast without crossing hayards? I used the bicycle chain method to fish a new genoa halyard but I later wondered if it was run fair and not tangled around another halyard. Any tips would be apreciated. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > To: "CnClist" < CnC-List@cnc-list.com > Cc: "Dennis C." < capt...@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:46:17 PM Subject: Stus-List Masthead surprise! I was aloft putting a Windex light on Touche' today. I drilled a hole in the side of the mast about 4 inches below the masthead to drop the power cable. When the drill burst through, a lot of dust and dirt came out. A bit of exploring and digging with a screwdriver revealed a bunch of dried mud. Since to my knowledge, nobody has ever buried Touche's mast in the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain, I decided on a different scenario. I guess a bunch of dirt daubers had filled the top 4-5 inches of the mast with mud nests. Had to dig under the hole with Special Tool WCH (wire coat hanger) to clear a path to drop the messenger line. Couldn't help but think about all the racers (including me) who try to minimize weight aloft only to have a bunch of pesky insects negate some of your efforts. :) BTW, we broke the messenger line so we'll give it another try Wednesday. That was a first. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Masthead surprise!
Apparently bees and wasps like to sail :) I had dirt dauber nests at the *bottom* of my mast, I discovered. And also in a place or two up under the deck / hull joint. And bee honeycombs in my trailer taillights. It appears dirt daubers' range is throughout North America. My boat was in an arid high desert climate the last four years (before it was mine), which is probably where it picked up those nests. Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" To: "CnClist" Cc: "Dennis" Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:46:17 PM Subject: Stus-List Masthead surprise! I was aloft putting a Windex light on Touche' today. I drilled a hole in the side of the mast about 4 inches below the masthead to drop the power cable. When the drill burst through, a lot of dust and dirt came out. A bit of exploring and digging with a screwdriver revealed a bunch of dried mud. Since to my knowledge, nobody has ever buried Touche's mast in the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain, I decided on a different scenario. I guess a bunch of dirt daubers had filled the top 4-5 inches of the mast with mud nests. Had to dig under the hole with Special Tool WCH (wire coat hanger) to clear a path to drop the messenger line. Couldn't help but think about all the racers (including me) who try to minimize weight aloft only to have a bunch of pesky insects negate some of your efforts. :) BTW, we broke the messenger line so we'll give it another try Wednesday. That was a first. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
