Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Steve,
The part youneeds to hold the cable was originally made from stamped stainless 
steel and formed to fit around the swaged collar near the end of the Morse 
series 64 control cable.
If Edson no longer stocks the item you need and won't make any more for you, I 
guarantee they still have the engineering drawing for the part you are trying 
to replace.  If you have a local fabricator, ask if Edson would share the 
drawing as opposed to reverse engineering the broken part.  They may cry 
"intellectual property" and the like, but they don't sell anything that is a 
viable replacement that can get your engine to shift. If you sign something and 
agree that you don't plan to manufacture and sell these parts commercially and 
only wish to build one for your own boat, they just may be willing to give you 
a copy of the drawing.   And make sure to replace the cable at the same time.
Chuck Gilchrest 
Half Magic
1983 LF 35


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any way to take the parts to a machinist?  I'm fascinated by the 
> things a good machinist can do and the problems they can solve.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2016 4:20 PM, "S Thomas via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> I just got off the phone with the Edson factory, and while they did take a 
>> look for me, it was to no avail.
>> According to the person I talked to, they have been cleaning house every 
>> couple of years, and getting rid of the replacement parts that are not 
>> selling.
>> Taking up too much valuable space to keep all of it. So that was that.
>>  
>> Anyway, I have found out a few things that may be of some help to others.
>>  
>> The cable in this application is of particularly large diameter because the 
>> clutch lever on the Yanmar "YSE, YSB, and YSM" series of one cylinder 
>> engines requires a lot of force to actuate. He said that Edson does not 
>> stock anything at all for cables that size any more. The ends have a 5/16 - 
>> 24 thread. From grabbing the lever by hand, free of the cable, it is about 
>> all I can do to work it. Got to be around 40 pounds. It is not difficult 
>> from friction, it is a spring force that must be overcome to toggle it. My 
>> cable is getting stiff too, but this must be why it was so big to start with.
>>  
>> I have found exact replacements for the cable from a few sources. 
>> Some part numbers are as follows:
>>  
>> Morse D37912-4 120 IN, this is the one in the boat, series D37912, 4 inches 
>> of travel, 120 inches overall length. Baum hydraulics can make up a cable 
>> with the same core and characteristics. They are an industrial supplier, and 
>> the industrial side of the Morse/Teleflex cable business was separated from 
>> Teleflex marine products in the course of a few recent ownership changes 
>> involving private equity firms. Teleflex now operates as "SeaStar 
>> Solutions", still in British Colombia, at least for now.
>>  
>> The same size cable, but with a lower friction core construction, is the 
>> Teleflex Extreme (TFXtreme) series 6400CC or CCX643xx which is the part 
>> number pattern, where "xx" is the length in feet. Depends on the supplier 
>> which number they are using. You have to make sure to be careful with the 
>> part numbers (also CC695xx is the same from yet another supplier), as there 
>> are similar ones with bulkhead instead of clamp fittings on one end. The 
>> Teleflex cable sounds preferable, at a cost of $247 Canadian here in 
>> Ontario, or US$ 147 plus shipping etc. from GO2 Marine in the Eastern U.S. 
>> This is for a 10 foot cable of the same diameter and fitting requirements as 
>> what is in the boat now.
>>  
>> http://www.go2marine.com/product/242306F/6400cc-tfxtreme-control-cables.html
>>  
>> http://www.baumhydraulics.com/files/infobuild/morse_clamp_and_clamp_push_pull_cables.pdf
>>  
>> It might just be possible to install a clutch lever in the side of the 
>> cockpit, and run a solid rod or tubular linkage to the clutch lever. The 
>> cost would be about the same if the geometry works. Will probably try to 
>> patch the existing part at least temporarily, but it is pretty clear that it 
>> won't last without at least replacing the cable. Like everything else, there 
>> are trade offs.
>>  
>> Steve Thomas 
>> C MKIII 
>> Port Stanley, ON 
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Agreed. 
I used to be a machinist, decades ago now, but I still have a milling machine, 
a couple of metal lathes, and various other metal working tools. 
I also worked as a welder, and have torches and a mig welder, but I only worked 
with carbon steels. 
Even better, I have access to people who are more skilled than I am at all of 
the above.
I live in what was once a booming industrial town. 

Anyway I think I have figured out a way to approach it. One way might be to 
join the existing pieces with rivets. I will post pictures of the problem, and 
the eventual fix when a solution is found. 
Maybe Stu will allow them on the Photo Album site.
Stay tuned. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
  To: C List 
  Cc: Josh Muckley 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 21:40
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Do you have any way to take the parts to a machinist?  I'm fascinated by the 
things a good machinist can do and the problems they can solve.

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C 37+
  Solomons, MD 

  On Jul 5, 2016 4:20 PM, "S Thomas via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I just got off the phone with the Edson factory, and while they did take a 
look for me, it was to no avail. 
According to the person I talked to, they have been cleaning house every 
couple of years, and getting rid of the replacement parts that are not selling. 
Taking up too much valuable space to keep all of it. So that was that. 

Anyway, I have found out a few things that may be of some help to others. 

The cable in this application is of particularly large diameter because the 
clutch lever on the Yanmar "YSE, YSB, and YSM" series of one cylinder engines 
requires a lot of force to actuate. He said that Edson does not stock anything 
at all for cables that size any more. The ends have a 5/16 - 24 thread. From 
grabbing the lever by hand, free of the cable, it is about all I can do to work 
it. Got to be around 40 pounds. It is not difficult from friction, it is a 
spring force that must be overcome to toggle it. My cable is getting stiff too, 
but this must be why it was so big to start with. 

I have found exact replacements for the cable from a few sources. 
Some part numbers are as follows: 

Morse D37912-4 120 IN, this is the one in the boat, series D37912, 4 inches 
of travel, 120 inches overall length. Baum hydraulics can make up a cable with 
the same core and characteristics. They are an industrial supplier, and the 
industrial side of the Morse/Teleflex cable business was separated from 
Teleflex marine products in the course of a few recent ownership changes 
involving private equity firms. Teleflex now operates as "SeaStar Solutions", 
still in British Colombia, at least for now. 

The same size cable, but with a lower friction core construction, is the 
Teleflex Extreme (TFXtreme) series 6400CC or CCX643xx which is the part number 
pattern, where "xx" is the length in feet. Depends on the supplier which number 
they are using. You have to make sure to be careful with the part numbers (also 
CC695xx is the same from yet another supplier), as there are similar ones with 
bulkhead instead of clamp fittings on one end. The Teleflex cable sounds 
preferable, at a cost of $247 Canadian here in Ontario, or US$ 147 plus 
shipping etc. from GO2 Marine in the Eastern U.S. This is for a 10 foot cable 
of the same diameter and fitting requirements as what is in the boat now. 

http://www.go2marine.com/product/242306F/6400cc-tfxtreme-control-cables.html


http://www.baumhydraulics.com/files/infobuild/morse_clamp_and_clamp_push_pull_cables.pdf

It might just be possible to install a clutch lever in the side of the 
cockpit, and run a solid rod or tubular linkage to the clutch lever. The cost 
would be about the same if the geometry works. Will probably try to patch the 
existing part at least temporarily, but it is pretty clear that it won't last 
without at least replacing the cable. Like everything else, there are trade 
offs. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 20:34
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Steve,
  When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps 
left in inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one 
since this part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the 
same time because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff 
rusty cable in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the 
new clamp soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this 
control assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electr

Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Do you have any way to take the parts to a machinist?  I'm fascinated by
the things a good machinist can do and the problems they can solve.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jul 5, 2016 4:20 PM, "S Thomas via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I just got off the phone with the Edson factory, and while they did take a
> look for me, it was to no avail.
> According to the person I talked to, they have been cleaning house every
> couple of years, and getting rid of the replacement parts that are not
> selling.
> Taking up too much valuable space to keep all of it. So that was that.
>
> Anyway, I have found out a few things that may be of some help to others.
>
> The cable in this application is of particularly large diameter because
> the clutch lever on the Yanmar "YSE, YSB, and YSM" series of one cylinder
> engines requires a lot of force to actuate. He said that Edson does not
> stock anything at all for cables that size any more. The ends have a 5/16 -
> 24 thread. From grabbing the lever by hand, free of the cable, it is about
> all I can do to work it. Got to be around 40 pounds. It is not difficult
> from friction, it is a spring force that must be overcome to toggle it. My
> cable is getting stiff too, but this must be why it was so big to start
> with.
>
> I have found exact replacements for the cable from a few sources.
> Some part numbers are as follows:
>
> Morse D37912-4 120 IN, this is the one in the boat, series D37912, 4
> inches of travel, 120 inches overall length. Baum hydraulics can make up a
> cable with the same core and characteristics. They are an industrial
> supplier, and the industrial side of the Morse/Teleflex cable business was
> separated from Teleflex marine products in the course of a few recent
> ownership changes involving private equity firms. Teleflex now operates as
> "SeaStar Solutions", still in British Colombia, at least for now.
>
> The same size cable, but with a lower friction core construction, is the
> Teleflex Extreme (TFXtreme) series 6400CC or CCX643xx which is the part
> number pattern, where "xx" is the length in feet. Depends on the supplier
> which number they are using. You have to make sure to be careful with the
> part numbers (also CC695xx is the same from yet another supplier), as there
> are similar ones with bulkhead instead of clamp fittings on one end. The
> Teleflex cable sounds preferable, at a cost of $247 Canadian here in
> Ontario, or US$ 147 plus shipping etc. from GO2 Marine in the Eastern U.S.
> This is for a 10 foot cable of the same diameter and fitting requirements
> as what is in the boat now.
>
>
> http://www.go2marine.com/product/242306F/6400cc-tfxtreme-control-cables.html
>
>
> http://www.baumhydraulics.com/files/infobuild/morse_clamp_and_clamp_push_pull_cables.pdf
>
> It might just be possible to install a clutch lever in the side of the
> cockpit, and run a solid rod or tubular linkage to the clutch lever. The
> cost would be about the same if the geometry works. Will probably try to
> patch the existing part at least temporarily, but it is pretty clear that
> it won't last without at least replacing the cable. Like everything else,
> there are trade offs.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 02, 2016 20:34
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes
>
> Steve,
> When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left
> in inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one
> since this part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at
> the same time because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a
> stiff rusty cable in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply
> break the new clamp soon after installation.  Edson also has a service
> bulletin on this control assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you
> electronically.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 LF 35
> Padanaram, MA
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos.
> I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the
> top, but I am still trying to figure out what to do next.
> It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make
> one which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube
> presents a real challenge.
&

Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

I just got off the phone with the Edson factory, and while they did take a look 
for me, it was to no avail. 
According to the person I talked to, they have been cleaning house every couple 
of years, and getting rid of the replacement parts that are not selling. 
Taking up too much valuable space to keep all of it. So that was that. 

Anyway, I have found out a few things that may be of some help to others. 

The cable in this application is of particularly large diameter because the 
clutch lever on the Yanmar "YSE, YSB, and YSM" series of one cylinder engines 
requires a lot of force to actuate. He said that Edson does not stock anything 
at all for cables that size any more. The ends have a 5/16 - 24 thread. From 
grabbing the lever by hand, free of the cable, it is about all I can do to work 
it. Got to be around 40 pounds. It is not difficult from friction, it is a 
spring force that must be overcome to toggle it. My cable is getting stiff too, 
but this must be why it was so big to start with. 

I have found exact replacements for the cable from a few sources. 
Some part numbers are as follows: 

Morse D37912-4 120 IN, this is the one in the boat, series D37912, 4 inches of 
travel, 120 inches overall length. Baum hydraulics can make up a cable with the 
same core and characteristics. They are an industrial supplier, and the 
industrial side of the Morse/Teleflex cable business was separated from 
Teleflex marine products in the course of a few recent ownership changes 
involving private equity firms. Teleflex now operates as "SeaStar Solutions", 
still in British Colombia, at least for now. 

The same size cable, but with a lower friction core construction, is the 
Teleflex Extreme (TFXtreme) series 6400CC or CCX643xx which is the part number 
pattern, where "xx" is the length in feet. Depends on the supplier which number 
they are using. You have to make sure to be careful with the part numbers (also 
CC695xx is the same from yet another supplier), as there are similar ones with 
bulkhead instead of clamp fittings on one end. The Teleflex cable sounds 
preferable, at a cost of $247 Canadian here in Ontario, or US$ 147 plus 
shipping etc. from GO2 Marine in the Eastern U.S. This is for a 10 foot cable 
of the same diameter and fitting requirements as what is in the boat now. 

http://www.go2marine.com/product/242306F/6400cc-tfxtreme-control-cables.html

http://www.baumhydraulics.com/files/infobuild/morse_clamp_and_clamp_push_pull_cables.pdf

It might just be possible to install a clutch lever in the side of the cockpit, 
and run a solid rod or tubular linkage to the clutch lever. The cost would be 
about the same if the geometry works. Will probably try to patch the existing 
part at least temporarily, but it is pretty clear that it won't last without at 
least replacing the cable. Like everything else, there are trade offs. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 20:34
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Steve,
  When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left in 
inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one since this 
part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the same time 
because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff rusty cable 
in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the new clamp 
soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this control 
assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electronically.
  Chuck Gilchrest
  S/V Half Magic
  1983 LF 35
  Padanaram, MA
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:


That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos. 
I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the 
top, but I am still trying to figure out what to do next. 
It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make 
one which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
presents a real challenge. 
I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original 
being made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or 
repair. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Brown via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Michael Brown 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Does your setup look like this?

  http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

  If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to 
locate.
  I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got t

Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Thanks Chuck, I will give them a call. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 20:34
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Steve,
  When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left in 
inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one since this 
part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the same time 
because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff rusty cable 
in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the new clamp 
soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this control 
assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electronically.
  Chuck Gilchrest
  S/V Half Magic
  1983 LF 35
  Padanaram, MA
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:


That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos. 
I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the 
top, but I am still trying to figure out what to do next. 
It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make 
one which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
presents a real challenge. 
I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original 
being made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or 
repair. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Brown via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Michael Brown 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Does your setup look like this?

  http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

  If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to 
locate.
  I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
  of the todo list yet.

  Michael Brown
  Windburn
  C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas" <sthom...@bellnet.ca> 
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

My 1978 C has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that 
is external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift 
bridge, enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any 
reference this particlar part anywhere. 
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with 
this particular problem. 
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would 
require it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that 
it is thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of 
the cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
original repair. 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into 
the annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of 
the sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall 
"D" shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface 
into a flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The 
bar extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 

If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how 
you handled it. 
A source for the part would be great. 
I have had no luck with online searches so far. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, 
and having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 

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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Steve,
When I worked at Edson several years ago there was a few cable clamps left in 
inventory.  You will need to call Edson direct on Tuesday to get one since this 
part has been discontinued for decades.  Replace your cable at the same time 
because the reason the cable clamp broke was trying to hold a stiff rusty cable 
in place.  If you don't replace the cable, you'll simply break the new clamp 
soon after installation.  Edson also has a service bulletin on this control 
assembly (model 747 IIRC)they can send to you electronically.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 LF 35
Padanaram, MA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 8:17 PM, S Thomas via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos.
> I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the top, 
> but I am still trying to figure out what to do next.  
> It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make one 
> which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
> presents a real challenge.
> I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original being 
> made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or repair.
>  
> Steve Thomas 
> C MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON 
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Michael Brown
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes
> 
> Does your setup look like this?
> 
> http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005
> 
> If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
> I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
> of the todo list yet.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
> 
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
> From: "S Thomas" <sthom...@bellnet.ca> 
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
> Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
> 
> My 1978 C has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
> external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
> tubes.   
> Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
> enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference 
> this particlar part anywhere. 
> For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
> particular problem. 
> The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require 
> it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is 
> thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the 
> cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
> original repair. 
> The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
> annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
> sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall 
> "D" shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface 
> into a flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The 
> bar extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through 
> the casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed 
> down inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 
> 
> If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
> handled it. 
> A source for the part would be great. 
> I have had no luck with online searches so far. 
> 
> Steve Thomas 
> C MKIII 
> Port Stanley, ON 
> 
> P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and 
> having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 
> ___
> 
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like 
> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
> are greatly appreciated!
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> 
> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like 
> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

That is it, although the part in question is not visible in those photos. 
I have been able to draw the cable and associated parts out through the top, 
but I am still trying to figure out what to do next. 
It is not hard to imagine any number of ways to make a clamp, but to make one 
which will be strong enough to do the job and also fit back in the tube 
presents a real challenge. 
I see no obvious way to improve on the original part, and the original being 
made of stamped stainless steel, it will not be easy to duplicate or repair. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Brown via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Michael Brown 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 19:36
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes


  Does your setup look like this?

  http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

  If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
  I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
  of the todo list yet.

  Michael Brown
  Windburn
  C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas" <sthom...@bellnet.ca> 
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

My 1978 C has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference this 
particlar part anywhere. 
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
particular problem. 
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require 
it to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is 
thin stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the 
cable. I have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the 
original repair. 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall "D" 
shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface into a 
flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The bar 
extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled. 

If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
handled it. 
A source for the part would be great. 
I have had no luck with online searches so far. 

Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 

P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and 
having a great time in Ashtabula, OH. 



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Re: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Does your setup look like this?

http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7005

If so the part I think you are referring to I have not been able to locate.
I have considered making a spare, a project that hasn't got to the top
of the todo list yet.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:32:14 -0400 
From: "S Thomas"  
To:  
Subject: Stus-List Shift Cable Clamp woes 
Message-ID: <8C564B7AC9E049FCB7FCE655B472320D@mordor> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
My 1978 C has the type of shifter and throttle cable assembly that is 
external to the Edson pedistal, and mounted on a pair of 1 inch stainless 
tubes.   
Yesterday the cable clamp on the shifter cable broke (under a lift bridge, 
enroute to a race start...) and I have not been able to find any reference this 
particlar part anywhere.  
For the cable itself there are sources, but that does not help with this 
particular problem.  
The clamp has already been welded once, but to try that again would require it 
to be welded in situ, which is tricky at best, given the fact that it is thin 
stainless steel and immediately adjascent to the plastic parts of the cable. I 
have a lot of respect for the welding skill of whoever did the original repair. 
 
The part consists of stamped sheet metal, formed so that it fits into the 
annular detent on the shift cable and wraps around the cable. The ends of the 
sheet metal strap have right angle tabs that interleave to form an overall "D" 
shape, with a round head machine screw threaded through the flat surface into a 
flat stainless steel bar and into the annular detent on the cable. The bar 
extends up about 8 inches and is similarly fastened by a screw through the 
casting at the top. The whole thing:  cable, strap, and clamp, is stuffed down 
inside the 1 inch stainless tubing when assembled.  
 
If anyone else has been down this road, I sure would like to hear how you 
handled it.  
A source for the part would be great.  
I have had no luck with online searches so far.  
 
Steve Thomas 
C MKIII 
Port Stanley, ON 
 
P.S. - The rest of my sailing club is yucking it up across the lake, and having 
a great time in Ashtabula, OH.  
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