Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have > chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the > delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS > antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think > I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. > > I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb > ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. > > Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a > good deal on a plotter over the off season? > > It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install > anything before the trip. > > Any and all advice is always appreciated! > > Danny > Still headed toward a closing > Massachusetts > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Danny, the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. Joel On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List wrote: > Danny, > the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t > see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them > several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to > navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the > time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this > area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the > chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck > on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! > > James > Delaney > 1976 C&C 38 > Oriental, NC > > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has > all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have > links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to > provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but > the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. > > A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 > amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often > be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. > > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. > > PM me if you need more info. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have >> chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the >> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS >> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think >> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. >> >> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb >> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. >> >> Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a >> good deal on a plotter over the off season? >> >> It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install >> anything before the trip. >> >> Any and all advice is always appreciated! >> >> Danny >> Still headed toward a closing >> Massachusetts >> >> ___ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> -- > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
You said that you have an older Android tablet as well as the Windows machine. I have been experimenting with an Android tablet that has LTE/4G cell network access built in (a 10" Samsung Tab2), which means that it also has an integral GPS. So far I have been able to download all of the NOAA charts and a free but limited app that displays the charts, the boat's position, and a few other things. There are many apps available, and I have only scratched the surface, but it seems that most are stripped down versions of apps-for-profit. I have found nothing remotely approaching the capability of something like Open CPN, that is available as freeware in Google app store. That said, if all you want to see is your position on a chart, it does work and it will work for quite a long time between charges. It would also work for just about any old smart phone, especially if you have one that is no longer on a service. You only need to be online to download the charts and apps, and wifi will work for that. I wanted a tablet to get a bigger display, and I figured that since cooling was not much of an issue, that I could get away with putting it in a Ziploc bag. Anyway, to summarize: I have not used it much yet, but it does work, it has a large display, and low power consumption. The software and the charts were free. I am certain that it will work better if I put more time into it. As for Windows, I have used OpenCPN on a Windows laptop, it handles AIS inputs, will generate alarms, and in general it did everything that we wanted, but it was more or less permanently attached to the boat's power. It is worth remembering that it is all too easy to get dependent on chart plotters and that they can and do die instantly. A boat that I was crewing on a few years ago was returning from a Pacific trip and entering Haro Strait and the Gulf Islands at about 04:00 when the laptop quit. We had hand held gps devices but they did not contain charts, so we had to make an instant switch to paper charts and a stop watch to identify flashing aids to navigation. There are pointy rocky things everywhere in the area with lights on them, and the navy was wrapping up a military exercise (Trident Fury) and had their boats parked all over the place just to make it more complicated. Bottom line is it takes a LOT more attention and a completely different mind set to navigate even with a GPS position available than it does with the easy assurance of watching one's position advance on a chart plotter. It is at least unsettling to have to make the switch instantly, especially at night, and for that reason I think that if an electronic chart plotter is to be used that there should also be a back up available. I have a Garmin GPS 78 hand held, and it works fine. My only complaint with it is the cost of the charts. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 17:03 Subject: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet has probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get yourself a USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low power, though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet. A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply (at 5 V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from a 12 V DC. Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux (plenty of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more limited in that category. Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in tablet mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications are difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT mouse that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at a premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less water proof than the tablet itself. If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10. Marek C270, Legato In Ottawa. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: September-08-15 17:20 To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
So what I have available fur older devices is. An old android Samsung galaxy 3 phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab tablet, no protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with windows 10, this has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and it charges through a mini USB. It has the detachable keyboard. I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts. That might be the quick fix for getting home and a good backup item. I think ultimately I might go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and the wind speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units. I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an experiment. On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: > > If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet has > probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get yourself a > USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low power, > though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet. > > > > A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply (at 5 > V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from a 12 V > DC. > > > > Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux (plenty > of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more limited in > that category. > > > > Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in tablet > mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications are > difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT mouse > that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at a > premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less water > proof than the tablet itself. > > > > If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10. > > > > Marek > > C270, Legato > > In Ottawa. > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: September-08-15 17:20 > To: C&C List > Cc: Josh Muckley > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all > of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links > to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a > GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest > and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. > > A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. > It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found > on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. > > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. > > PM me if you need more info. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" > wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. > Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was > thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and > charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap > handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. > > > > I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram > and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. > > > > Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good > deal on a plotter over the off season? > > > > It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install > anything before the trip. > > > > Any and all advice is always appreciated! > > > > Danny > > Still headed toward a closing > > Massachusetts > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
MX Mariner for Android devices. Free charts and works with active captain. Josh On Sep 9, 2015 6:57 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: > So what I have available fur older devices is. An old android Samsung > galaxy 3 phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab > tablet, no protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with > windows 10, this has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and > it charges through a mini USB. It has the detachable keyboard. > > I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts. That might be > the quick fix for getting home and a good backup item. I think ultimately > I might go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and > the wind speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units. > > I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an > experiment. On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a > tablet has probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get > yourself a USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low > power, though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet. > > > > > > > > A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply > (at 5 V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from > a 12 V DC. > > > > > > > > Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux > (plenty of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more > limited in that category. > > > > > > > > Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in > tablet mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications > are difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT > mouse that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at > a premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less > water proof than the tablet itself. > > > > > > > > If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10. > > > > > > > > Marek > > > > C270, Legato > > > > In Ottawa. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > > Sent: September-08-15 17:20 > > To: C&C List > > Cc: Josh Muckley > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > > > > > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has > all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have > links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to > provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but > the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. > > > > A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 > amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often > be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. > > > > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. > > > > PM me if you need more info. > > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have > chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the > delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS > antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think > I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. > > > > > > > > I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb > ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. > > > > > > > > Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a > good deal on a plotter over the off season? > > > > > > > > It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install > anything before the trip. > > > > > > > > Any and all advice is always appreciated! > > > > > > > > Danny > > > > Still headed toward a closing > > > > Massachusetts > > > > > >
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Danny Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still available. It is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been discontinued already We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm. It is extremely useful when going anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a necessity. A tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone to breakage and power loss, especially in any sea condition We just returned from the Bras d'Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS. The total return delivery was approx. 170NM. I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) with the Boating HD app. This in fact is now permitted to be on board in place of paper charts as is the same charting information. We also had all the paper charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter at the Nav station. For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and then noted each of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters. I found using the tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much simpler than the paper chart with dividers etc ... I also found that having the waypoints in my chartplotter at helm almost a necessity. My 0.02 Mike Persistence 1987 Frers 33 Halifax, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. Joel On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Danny, the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" > wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Navionics is discontinuing Boating HD? I haven't heard anything of this. Do you mean just the HD version? Navionics is very much alive and working on my tablet. I bought the non-HD version for my N10, because it was cheaper and the resolution is just fine. Plus I share it across my Android phone and 2nd tablet (an N7). On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM, wrote: > > From: "Hoyt, Mike" > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Cc: > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:34:49 + > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > Danny > > > > Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still > available. It is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been > discontinued already > > > > We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm. It is extremely useful when > going anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a > necessity. A tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone > to breakage and power loss, especially in any sea condition > > > > We just returned from the Bras d’Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS. The total > return delivery was approx. 170NM. I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) > with the Boating HD app. This in fact is now permitted to be on board in > place of paper charts as is the same charting information. We also had all > the paper charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter > at the Nav station. For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and > then noted each of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters. I > found using the tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much > simpler than the paper chart with dividers etc … I also found that having > the waypoints in my chartplotter at helm almost a necessity. > > > > My 0.02 > > > > Mike > > Persistence > > 1987 Frers 33 > > Halifax, NS > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Danny – The advice Mike gives re: 740 is very good. Coincidently, I also happen to have one for sale. Pete On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM, wrote: From: "Hoyt, Mike" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Cc: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:34:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Danny Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still available. It is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been discontinued already We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm. It is extremely useful when going anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a necessity. A tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone to breakage and power loss, especially in any sea condition We just returned from the Bras d’Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS. The total return delivery was approx. 170NM. I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) with the Boating HD app. This in fact is now permitted to be on board in place of paper charts as is the same charting information. We also had all the paper charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter at the Nav station. For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and then noted each of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters. I found using the tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much simpler than the paper chart with dividers etc … I also found that having the waypoints in my chartplotter at helm almost a necessity. My 0.02 Mike Persistence 1987 Frers 33 Halifax, NS ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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+ 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila <http://svsila.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_16.html>, who has been using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all > works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite > lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. > > The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, > it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old > beast draws around 4-5 amps. > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle > and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and > power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. > > > > Joel > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List > wrote: > > Danny, > > the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t > see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them > several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to > navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the > time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this > area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the > chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck > on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! > > > > James > > Delaney > > 1976 C&C 38 > > Oriental, NC > > > > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM > > *To:* C&C List > > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has > all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have > links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to > provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but > the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. > > A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 > amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often > be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. > > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. > > PM me if you need more info. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys, &
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A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than $2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all > works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite > lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. > > The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, > it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old > beast draws around 4-5 amps. > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Joel Aronson > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle > and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and > power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. > > > > Joel > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List > wrote: > > Danny, > > the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t > see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them > several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to > navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the > time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this > area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the > chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck > on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! > > > > James > > Delaney > > 1976 C&C 38 > > Oriental, NC > > > > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM > > *To:* C&C List > > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has > all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have > links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to > provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but > the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. > > A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 > amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often > be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. > > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. > > PM me if you need more info. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have > chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the > delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS > antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think > I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. > > > > I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb > ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. > > > > Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a > good deal on a plotter over the off season? > > > > It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install > anything before the trip. > > > > Any and all advice is always appreciated! > > > > Danny > > Still headed toward a closing > > Massachusetts > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -- > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient Andrew) On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D > plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than > $2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to > Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One > of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on > my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when > I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all >> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite >> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. >> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, >> it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old >> beast draws around 4-5 amps. >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel >> Aronson via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* Joel Aronson >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >> >> >> >> Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS >> dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle >> and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. >> >> >> >> Joel >> >> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Danny, >> >> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t >> see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them >> several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to >> navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the >> time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this >> area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the >> chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck >> on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! >> >> >> >> James >> >> Delaney >> >> 1976 C&C 38 >> >> Oriental, NC >> >> >> >> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM >> >> *To:* C&C List >> >> *Cc:* Josh Muckley >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >> >> >> >> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has >> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have >> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to >> provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but >> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. >> >> A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 >> amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often >> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. >> >> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. >> >> PM me if you need more info. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> >> >> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have >> chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the >> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS >> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think >> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. >> >> >> >> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb >> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. &
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One of the best (Android) apps is the Drag Queen. It got quite a good review in, I think, Practical Sailor. The most important thing there is that the app has to be very simple to set-up. and it is. Marek From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kevin Driscoll Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient Andrew) On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote: A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than $2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. Joel On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List wrote: Danny, the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscrib
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your G-tab should have a GPS built in; same with the phone. The Dell Venue does not. It seems that Navionics is the primary choice. It works on Android and does not need plenty of CPU power (at least once it is going). The GPSMAP 78 most likely does not come with anything other than the global map which gives you very high level continent contours. Any charts would cost you plenty and they won't be compatible with any chartplotter you might purchase later. Anyone tried the OsmAnd Nautical Charts (this is for Android)? I used their app as an off-line mapping app in Europe and it was fine, but I never had a chance to try their charts. Marek -Original Message- From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:56 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: djhaug...@juno.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? So what I have available fur older devices is. An old android Samsung galaxy 3 phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab tablet, no protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with windows 10, this has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and it charges through a mini USB. It has the detachable keyboard. I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts. That might be the quick fix for getting home and a good backup item. I think ultimately I might go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and the wind speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units. I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an experiment. On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote: If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet has probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get yourself a USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low power, though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet. A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply (at 5 V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from a 12 V DC. Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux (plenty of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more limited in that category. Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in tablet mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications are difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT mouse that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at a premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less water proof than the tablet itself. If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10. Marek C270, Legato In Ottawa. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: September-08-15 17:20 To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Drag Queen for both by Active Captain Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kevin Driscoll Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient Andrew) On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote: A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than $2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. Joel On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List wrote: Danny, the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined. I think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well. GPS store has one for $169. I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop. i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! Danny Still headed toward a closing Massachusetts ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including un
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Kevin, Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. Joel On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List wrote: Danny, the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks! James Delaney 1976 C&C 38 Oriental, NC From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious. The NOAA website has all of their charts available in vector and raster formats. They also have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts. You'll need to provide a GPS input. There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. A laptop is very power hungry. The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. It's worse if you have to use an inverter. 12v chargers can often be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10. Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof. PM me if you need more info. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was t
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OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try that next. DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List wrote: > > Kevin, > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android > Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and > in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and > with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or > automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a > huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX > Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern > CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, > but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) > and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when > I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with > outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) > > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two > phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, > bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious > weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having > the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than > additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your > boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet > with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are > delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out > there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using > iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a > number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. > > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: >> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works >> great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. >> OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. >> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it >> isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast >> draws around 4-5 amps. >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel >> Aronson via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Joel Aronson >> >> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >> >> >> >> Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle >> and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power >> supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. >> >> >> >> Joel >> >> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List >> wrote: >> >> Danny, >> >> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see >> the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several >> times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with >> since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home >> waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years >> and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. >> I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because >> they followed the GPS instead of the marks! >> >> >> >> James >> >> Delaney >> >> 1976 C&C 38 >> >> Oriental, NC >> >> >> >> From: Josh Muckley via CnC
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You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) Josh On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: > OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and > navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto > the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get > these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try > that next. > > DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > Kevin, > > > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > > > David F. Risch > > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > > > ____________ > > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com > > > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and > Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa > Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for > redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me > notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA > information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is > also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was > $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD > Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" > Tablet. > > > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI > #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service > (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS > (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled > GPS/Chartplotters) > > > > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two > phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, > bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious > weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having > the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than > additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your > boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet > with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are > delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out > there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been > using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn > and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. > > > > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all > works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite > lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. > >> > >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to > waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a > plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Joel Aronson via CnC-List > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM > >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > >> Cc: Joel Aronson > >> > >> > >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > >> > >> > >> > >> Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS > dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle > and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. > >> > >> > >> > &g
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good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol DJH On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote:You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) Josh On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try that next. DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Kevin, > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) > > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. > > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. >> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Joel Aronson >> >> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >> >> >> >> Download OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon. $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet. >> >> >> >> Joel >> >> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Danny, >> >> the only GPS I carry on my boat
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Just saw this open source plotter: http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter Have not tried it. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List wrote: > good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol > > DJH > On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18 > AM wrote: > > You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google > account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In > retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was > common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the > apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might > be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just > for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the > boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that > account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) > > Josh > On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and >> navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto >> the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get >> these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try >> that next. >> >> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List >> wrote: >> > >> > Kevin, >> > >> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! >> > >> > David F. Risch >> > (401) 419-4650 (cell) >> > >> > >> > >> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + >> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com >> > >> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and >> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa >> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for >> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me >> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA >> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is >> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was >> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD >> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" >> Tablet. >> > >> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your >> MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell >> service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld >> GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled >> GPS/Chartplotters) >> > >> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or >> two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, >> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious >> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having >> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than >> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your >> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet >> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are >> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out >> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been >> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn >> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. >> > >> > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all >> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite >> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. >> >> >> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to >> waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a >> plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps. >> >> &
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit pie... My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and with Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium core processor :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote: Just saw this open source plotter: <http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter>http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter Have not tried it. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol DJH On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote: You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) Josh On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try that next. DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Kevin, > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > ________ > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + > To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > From: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com > CC: <mailto:kevindrisc...@gmail.com>kevindrisc...@gmail.com > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) > > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. > > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and ârealâ marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz. I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web browsing. I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner of devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof display you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial marine plotter would cost. My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on the T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out how to mount. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> COQUINA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit pie... My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and with Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium core processor :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote: Just saw this open source plotter: http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter Have not tried it. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol DJH On Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >, Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote: You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) Josh On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try that next. DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Kevin, > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +0000 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com <mailto:kevindrisc...@gmail.com> > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android > Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and > in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and > with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or > automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a > huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX > Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern > CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, > but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet. > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) > and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when > I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with > outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) > > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two > phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, > bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious > weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having > the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than > additional hardware. But you
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
There are several "computers on a stick" - Windows computers on a USB key sized device from Intel and Lenovo. If I already had a TV or monitor I would consider that as a solution for the nav station. Joel On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz. > > I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web > browsing. > > I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner > of devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof > display you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial > marine plotter would cost. > > My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better > machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on > the T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out > how to mount. > > > > Joe Della Barba > > j...@dellabarba.com > > > > COQUINA > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ > & Melody via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Russ & Melody > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > > > A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit > pie... > > My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and > with Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big > difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium > core processor :) > > Cheers, Russ > *Sweet *35 mk-1 > > At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote: > > Just saw this open source plotter: > > http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter > > Have not tried it. > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List > wrote: > > good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol > > DJH > > On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18 > AM wrote: > > You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google > account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In > retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was > common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the > apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This > might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account > just for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated > to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that > account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) > > Josh > > On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and > navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night onto > the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can get > these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to try > that next. > > DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List > wrote: > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! > > > > > > David F. Risch > > > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? > > > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com > > > > > > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and > Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa > Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for > redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me > notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA > information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is > also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was > $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD > Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" > Tablet. > > > > > > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI > #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service >
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
Here is a software package that boots off of a flash drive. No need to install. Lightweight linux and OpenCPN plus some other goodies. http://marinux.pk973.org/#XINUTOP Josh On Sep 10, 2015 11:24 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" wrote: > Just saw this open source plotter: > > http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter > > Have not tried it. > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List > wrote: > >> good thought... wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol >> >> DJH >> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List , Sep 10, 2015 7:18 >> AM wrote: >> >> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google >> account is linked to. Just go to the app store and select "my apps". In >> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was >> common between my wife and i. As it stands now she would have to buy the >> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device. This might >> be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just >> for the boat. That way all of the google services can be segregated to the >> boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that >> account. (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.) >> >> Josh >> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, >>> and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install, last night >>> onto the Samsung galaxy 3. So far, they both look great. I believe I can >>> get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now. So, I think I'm going to >>> try that next. >>> >>> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Kevin, >>> > >>> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon. Just downloaded it. Thanks! >>> > >>> > David F. Risch >>> > (401) 419-4650 (cell) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 + >>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? >>> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com >>> > >>> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and >>> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa >>> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for >>> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me >>> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA >>> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is >>> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was >>> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD >>> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" >>> Tablet. >>> > >>> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your >>> MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell >>> service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld >>> GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled >>> GPS/Chartplotters) >>> > >>> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or >>> two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, >>> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious >>> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having >>> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than >>> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your >>> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet >>> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are >>> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out >>> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been >>> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn >>> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. >>> > >>> > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms
I tried Drag Queen after hearing good reviews. I found a free one called Anchor Lite that I like a whole lot better. Bill Bina On 9/9/2015 1:47 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote: Drag Queen for both by Active Captain Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie PA *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:06 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Kevin Driscoll *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient Andrew) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms
Drag Queen is also free. I suppose it's a matter of preference, and that newer software may be an improvement over something as old as Drag Queen (which is probably 4 or 5 years old), but it is the app I rely on. I particularly like the ability to set a radius from your anchor at which the alarm goes off. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:58 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Bina - gmail Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms I tried Drag Queen after hearing good reviews. I found a free one called Anchor Lite that I like a whole lot better. Bill Bina On 9/9/2015 1:47 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote: Drag Queen for both by Active Captain Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Kevin Driscoll Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient Andrew) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com