Re: Stus-List 34+ / 37+ Layup schedule

2018-05-30 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List

 That is awesome, I would sure like to have that information for my 37.; I 
have all of the spec sheets and drawings information from the Great Lakes 
museum for the 37, does anyone know of any other source? (the build file for my 
boat is no longer available).

 


Richard


1s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

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From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
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Cc: Ken Heaton ; Francois Rivard 
; tom hoffmann 
Sent: Wed, May 30, 2018 4:55 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34+ / 37+ Layup schedule



And the Construction Drawings for the 37/40 Series, showing the layup schedule 
for 1990, and layup details, etc are online here: 
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html


Ken H.



On 29 May 2018 at 16:39, Francois Rivard via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hi Thomas, 


Below is what I know about the layup schedule on the 34 / 37 + boats. I got 
this off a forum somewhere (Not this one) a few years ago. 



Topsides (total thickness 1.19")
1. Gelcoat
2. 1.5 oz. Chop
3. 1.5 oz. Mat
4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
5. 1” Balsa Core
6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
 
Bottom (total thickness 1.23")
1. Gelcoat
2. 1.5 oz. Chop
3. 1.5 oz. Mat
4. C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat
5. 1” Balsa Core
6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
 
Tuck area at turn of bilge to keel sump two (2) additional layers of C77K/200 
Kevlar Fabmat are added to the interior layer of the bottom schedule for a 
total thickness of 1.39"  Keel sump has Balsa replaced by two (2) layers of 
Compositex.
 
DuPont Aramat C72K/200 seems to have been an E-glass/Kevlar hybrid weave.  The 
following is all I could find out about the stuff on the web:
 
Composition of the glass/Kevlar hybrid, DuPont's Aramat 72K/200:
 
ComponentG/SQ.MOZ/SQ.YD  Wt. % in Base Fabric Wt. % inTotal 
Fabric
Glass Fiber 245.6   7.2 63  
41.1
Kevlar 49144.0   4.2 37 
 24.0
Mat Backing200.0   5.9 --   
33.5
Stitching Yarn 8.0   0.2 -- 
1.4
Total   597.6 17.5





Hydrex is a trade name for a product line from Reichhold Chemicals. The 
original product was a VE/DCPD blend resin that offered the blister resistance 
of VE resin, but with the tensile elongation or 2.4 which is comparable to a 
good GP. The added DCPD allowed the resin to be promoted at the manufacturer 
rather than the shop floor. It was a very good resin, but not one which would 
have been ideal for an aramid laminate.
 
Hydrex 100 is a full VE resin with tensile elongation of 3.4%. Many VE resins 
have an unstable gel time and need to be promoted at the shop to insure that it 
does not drift out of range. Reichhold improved the stability of the resin so 
that they could still promote at the manufacturer and get stable gel times and 
cure rates. They now offer lower styrene versions as well.



There is some description of the layup on the 34+ here as well: 
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm


I hope this helps. 


Jean-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
 


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Re: Stus-List 34+ / 37+ Layup schedule

2018-05-30 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
And the Construction Drawings for the 37/40 Series, showing the layup
schedule for 1990, and layup details, etc are online here:
https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

Ken H.

On 29 May 2018 at 16:39, Francois Rivard via CnC-List  wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> Below is what I know about the layup schedule on the 34 / 37 + boats. I
> got this off a forum somewhere (Not this one) a few years ago.
>
> Topsides (total thickness 1.19")
> 1. Gelcoat
> 2. 1.5 oz. Chop
> 3. 1.5 oz. Mat
> 4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
> 5. 1” Balsa Core
> 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
>
> Bottom (total thickness 1.23")
> 1. Gelcoat
> 2. 1.5 oz. Chop
> 3. 1.5 oz. Mat
> 4. C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat
> 5. 1” Balsa Core
> 6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
>
> Tuck area at turn of bilge to keel sump two (2) additional layers of
> C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat are added to the interior layer of the bottom
> schedule for a total thickness of 1.39"  Keel sump has Balsa replaced by
> two (2) layers of Compositex.
>
> DuPont Aramat C72K/200 seems to have been an E-glass/Kevlar hybrid weave.
> The following is all I could find out about the stuff on the web:
>
> Composition of the glass/Kevlar hybrid, DuPont's Aramat 72K/200:
>
> ComponentG/SQ.MOZ/SQ.YD  Wt. % in Base Fabric Wt. %
> inTotal Fabric
> Glass Fiber 245.6   7.2 63
>   41.1
> Kevlar 49144.0   4.2 37
>   24.0
> Mat Backing200.0   5.9 --
>  33.5
> Stitching Yarn 8.0   0.2 --
>  1.4
> Total   597.6 17.5
>
>
> Hydrex is a trade name for a product line from Reichhold Chemicals. The
> original product was a VE/DCPD blend resin that offered the blister
> resistance of VE resin, but with the tensile elongation or 2.4 which is
> comparable to a good GP. The added DCPD allowed the resin to be promoted at
> the manufacturer rather than the shop floor. It was a very good resin, but
> not one which would have been ideal for an aramid laminate.
>
> Hydrex 100 is a full VE resin with tensile elongation of 3.4%. Many VE
> resins have an unstable gel time and need to be promoted at the shop to
> insure that it does not drift out of range. Reichhold improved the
> stability of the resin so that they could still promote at the manufacturer
> and get stable gel times and cure rates. They now offer lower styrene
> versions as well.
>
> There is some description of the layup on the 34+ here as well:
> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Jean-Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, GA
>
>
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> and every one is greatly appreciated.  If you want to support the list -
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>
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Stus-List 34+ / 37+ Layup schedule

2018-05-29 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Thomas,

Below is what I know about the layup schedule on the 34 / 37 + boats. I got
this off a forum somewhere (Not this one) a few years ago.

Topsides (total thickness 1.19")
1. Gelcoat
2. 1.5 oz. Chop
3. 1.5 oz. Mat
4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
5. 1” Balsa Core
6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat

Bottom (total thickness 1.23")
1. Gelcoat
2. 1.5 oz. Chop
3. 1.5 oz. Mat
4. C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat
5. 1” Balsa Core
6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat

Tuck area at turn of bilge to keel sump two (2) additional layers of
C77K/200 Kevlar Fabmat are added to the interior layer of the bottom
schedule for a total thickness of 1.39"  Keel sump has Balsa replaced by
two (2) layers of Compositex.

DuPont Aramat C72K/200 seems to have been an E-glass/Kevlar hybrid weave.
The following is all I could find out about the stuff on the web:

Composition of the glass/Kevlar hybrid, DuPont's Aramat 72K/200:

ComponentG/SQ.MOZ/SQ.YD  Wt. % in Base Fabric Wt. %
inTotal Fabric
Glass Fiber 245.6   7.2 63
41.1
Kevlar 49144.0   4.2 37
  24.0
Mat Backing200.0   5.9 --
 33.5
Stitching Yarn 8.0   0.2 --
 1.4
Total   597.6 17.5


Hydrex is a trade name for a product line from Reichhold Chemicals. The
original product was a VE/DCPD blend resin that offered the blister
resistance of VE resin, but with the tensile elongation or 2.4 which is
comparable to a good GP. The added DCPD allowed the resin to be promoted at
the manufacturer rather than the shop floor. It was a very good resin, but
not one which would have been ideal for an aramid laminate.

Hydrex 100 is a full VE resin with tensile elongation of 3.4%. Many VE
resins have an unstable gel time and need to be promoted at the shop to
insure that it does not drift out of range. Reichhold improved the
stability of the resin so that they could still promote at the manufacturer
and get stable gel times and cure rates. They now offer lower styrene
versions as well.

There is some description of the layup on the 34+ here as well:
http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review34-36.htm

I hope this helps.

Jean-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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