Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

IMHO it doesn't look bad.  I would monitor it for a few seasons.  Watch for
water ingress.  Torque the keel bolts.  Monitor some more.  Drink rum.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yV1JEN3YxQk1RbHc/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Jul 21, 2017 11:02 AM, "Chris Hobson via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex?
> Apparently the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled
> -- now 1.5” wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by
> current or previous owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to
> monitor drop and re-bed if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge,
> no movement on the crack when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe
> it’s fine, thoughts?
>
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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List]

Same for me. Used to have a 3   inches crack on the back of the keel joint and 
filled it with epoxy every spring, then I used G/Flex and this was 5 years ago, 
never had to fix it since.
Sylvain 
C mkIII


Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 21 juil. 2017 à 11:27, Mike Macdonald via CnC-List  
> a écrit :
> 
> True it flexs but that is what g/flex does  I did my 29 with it 3 years ago 
> and it is still holding. Trick is to get the boat square in the cradle with 
> equal weight distribution so the kewl won't shift too much when lifted 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:17 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My experience, 20+ years with a 27-3, is to fill with a flexible compound, 
>> not something firm like epoxy. The boat flexes, you need to allow it to do 
>> so.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Forgot the photo!
>>> 
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_lwczpvPcEHY2lHTzZnMngwbWM/view?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Chris Hobson  wrote:
 
 Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? 
 Apparently the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled 
 -- now 1.5” wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by 
 current or previous owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says 
 to monitor drop and re-bed if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the 
 bilge, no movement on the crack when two of us heaved as hard as we could. 
 Maybe it’s fine, thoughts?
 
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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Looks like the usual smile to me.  Properly torque the keelbolts, grind out
the crack a bit, fill it with epoxy/glass, cover it with strips of biaxial
cloth/epoxy, go sailing.
That's how I fixed Touche' in 1999.  No issues since.

Look here:  http://cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/smile/index.htm

Several listers have similar experience.  Some have had a "bit" more
difficult fixes but, in my opinion, the difficulty is often, but not
always, related to the lack of proper keelbolt torque.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex?
> Apparently the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled
> -- now 1.5” wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by
> current or previous owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to
> monitor drop and re-bed if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge,
> no movement on the crack when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe
> it’s fine, thoughts?
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Looks familiar. Who knows what they stuffed in there, I’ve used many different 
‘fixes’ but the keel hasn’t moved and there is no water intrusion.

 

Best is to grind all that old bottom paint off that area and wrap some 
fiberglass around it and bond it. Or use Marine-Tex or something similar and 
just check it out each year (which is what I have been doing for over 20 years).

 

As long as the bolts are tight and not rusty, and have good backing plates, you 
should be OK.

 

Gary

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

 

Forgot the photo!

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_lwczpvPcEHY2lHTzZnMngwbWM/view?usp=sharing


Thanks,
Chris



 

 

On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Chris Hobson <ch...@hobsonbuildsco.com 
<mailto:ch...@hobsonbuildsco.com> > wrote:

 

Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? Apparently 
the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled -- now 1.5” 
wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by current or previous 
owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to monitor drop and re-bed 
if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge, no movement on the crack 
when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe it’s fine, thoughts?

 

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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Mike Macdonald via CnC-List]

True it flexs but that is what g/flex does  I did my 29 with it 3 years ago and 
it is still holding. Trick is to get the boat square in the cradle with equal 
weight distribution so the kewl won't shift too much when lifted 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:17 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> My experience, 20+ years with a 27-3, is to fill with a flexible compound, 
> not something firm like epoxy. The boat flexes, you need to allow it to do so.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Forgot the photo!
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_lwczpvPcEHY2lHTzZnMngwbWM/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Chris Hobson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? 
>>> Apparently the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled 
>>> -- now 1.5” wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by 
>>> current or previous owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to 
>>> monitor drop and re-bed if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge, 
>>> no movement on the crack when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe 
>>> it’s fine, thoughts?
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

My experience, 20+ years with a 27-3, is to fill with a flexible compound, not 
something firm like epoxy. The boat flexes, you need to allow it to do so.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:03 AM, Chris Hobson via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Forgot the photo!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_lwczpvPcEHY2lHTzZnMngwbWM/view?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Chris


On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Chris Hobson 
> wrote:

Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? Apparently 
the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled -- now 1.5” 
wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by current or previous 
owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to monitor drop and re-bed 
if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge, no movement on the crack 
when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe it’s fine, thoughts?


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Re: Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Chris Hobson via CnC-List]

Forgot the photo!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_lwczpvPcEHY2lHTzZnMngwbWM/view?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Chris



> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Chris Hobson  wrote:
> 
> Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? Apparently 
> the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled -- now 1.5” 
> wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by current or previous 
> owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to monitor drop and 
> re-bed if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge, no movement on the 
> crack when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe it’s fine, thoughts?
> 

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Stus-List 80' C 30 Smile Photo

[Chris Hobson via CnC-List]

Lifted the boat and saw the smile, think it was done with g-flex? Apparently 
the crack is hairline, not deep, not structural. And was filled -- now 1.5” 
wide with the filler. Apparently no one went aground - by current or previous 
owner (only two). Surveyor thinks otherwise and says to monitor drop and re-bed 
if it reappears. The bolts were clean in the bilge, no movement on the crack 
when two of us heaved as hard as we could. Maybe it’s fine, thoughts?


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