Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Brent Driedger]

http://youtu.be/aL_VdzjM-24

This is not engine related but does demonstrate the real world draw backs of 
dry chemical extinguishers in a sailboat. This was a very informative series. 

Brent
27-5
Lake Winnipeg

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> On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
> 
> Darn insurance companies...  Here's what I did: 
> 
> 
> Wal
> 
> Glen Eddie wrote:
>> B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
>> fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
>> portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
>> in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
>> into the engine compartment without opening the
>> primary access.
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Wally Bryant]

Darn insurance companies...  Here's what I did: 



Wal

Glen Eddie wrote:

B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
into the engine compartment without opening the
primary access.

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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Della Barba, Joe]

Halon or CO2 won’t ruin the food ;)

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
DeYoung
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

Jim,

The fire blanket onboard makes great sense.  If I had one available back in 
1979 it would have been un-necessary to clean up all that dry chem.  BTW, dry 
chem everywhere including in your hair is un-pleasant when sailing upwind in 
the trades.

I am going to put one onboard Calypso.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:48 AM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

For galley fires, I went with the Safety at Sea recommendation and put a fire 
blanket on the boat as a first line of defense. No mess to clean up afterwards 
and only $10 at Home Depot. I was so impressed I put one in the pantry at home, 
too.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 17 April 2014 10:52, Martin DeYoung 
mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>> wrote:
The diesel engine fire video demonstrates one of the reasons Calypso has an 
automatically deployed Halon (aprox 10lb) fire extinguisher mounted in the 
engine space.

I had firefighting classes as part of my merchant marine training and have 
fought a fire underway (in 1979 on a C&C 39, galley fire, 2 days NE of Hawaii) 
that took 3 small dry chem extinguishers to put down.  I am a fan of having 
several smaller extinguishers in handy locations, larger ones near the likely 
risks (engine/battery spaces and galley), and the automatic type if a fire 
could start undetected.

I also have small dry chem's mounted near likely exit points (especially up 
forward) in case someone is trapped by a fire near the campionway.  When I was 
fighting the C&C 39 fire my wife was stuck forward by the head and could not 
get on deck (where some of the crew was preparing the life raft in case the 
fire spread) without passing through a cloud of dry chem and smoke.

The insurance requirement for the engine space fire port is reasonable for 
coastal sailing where assistance is close by and/or one could make for shore 
quickly.  If your plans include some offshore voyages I recommend looking into 
a upgrade to the auto deploy type extinguishers.  There are some smaller sizes 
that are easy to mount with self-contained heat activated release mechanisms.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Martin DeYoung]

Jim,

The fire blanket onboard makes great sense.  If I had one available back in 
1979 it would have been un-necessary to clean up all that dry chem.  BTW, dry 
chem everywhere including in your hair is un-pleasant when sailing upwind in 
the trades.

I am going to put one onboard Calypso.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:48 AM
To: 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

For galley fires, I went with the Safety at Sea recommendation and put a fire 
blanket on the boat as a first line of defense. No mess to clean up afterwards 
and only $10 at Home Depot. I was so impressed I put one in the pantry at home, 
too.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 17 April 2014 10:52, Martin DeYoung 
mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>> wrote:
The diesel engine fire video demonstrates one of the reasons Calypso has an 
automatically deployed Halon (aprox 10lb) fire extinguisher mounted in the 
engine space.

I had firefighting classes as part of my merchant marine training and have 
fought a fire underway (in 1979 on a C&C 39, galley fire, 2 days NE of Hawaii) 
that took 3 small dry chem extinguishers to put down.  I am a fan of having 
several smaller extinguishers in handy locations, larger ones near the likely 
risks (engine/battery spaces and galley), and the automatic type if a fire 
could start undetected.

I also have small dry chem's mounted near likely exit points (especially up 
forward) in case someone is trapped by a fire near the campionway.  When I was 
fighting the C&C 39 fire my wife was stuck forward by the head and could not 
get on deck (where some of the crew was preparing the life raft in case the 
fire spread) without passing through a cloud of dry chem and smoke.

The insurance requirement for the engine space fire port is reasonable for 
coastal sailing where assistance is close by and/or one could make for shore 
quickly.  If your plans include some offshore voyages I recommend looking into 
a upgrade to the auto deploy type extinguishers.  There are some smaller sizes 
that are easy to mount with self-contained heat activated release mechanisms.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Jim Watts]

For galley fires, I went with the Safety at Sea recommendation and put a
fire blanket on the boat as a first line of defense. No mess to clean up
afterwards and only $10 at Home Depot. I was so impressed I put one in the
pantry at home, too.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On 17 April 2014 10:52, Martin DeYoung  wrote:

> The diesel engine fire video demonstrates one of the reasons Calypso has
> an automatically deployed Halon (aprox 10lb) fire extinguisher mounted in
> the engine space.
>
> I had firefighting classes as part of my merchant marine training and have
> fought a fire underway (in 1979 on a C&C 39, galley fire, 2 days NE of
> Hawaii) that took 3 small dry chem extinguishers to put down.  I am a fan
> of having several smaller extinguishers in handy locations, larger ones
> near the likely risks (engine/battery spaces and galley), and the automatic
> type if a fire could start undetected.
>
> I also have small dry chem's mounted near likely exit points (especially
> up forward) in case someone is trapped by a fire near the campionway.  When
> I was fighting the C&C 39 fire my wife was stuck forward by the head and
> could not get on deck (where some of the crew was preparing the life raft
> in case the fire spread) without passing through a cloud of dry chem and
> smoke.
>
> The insurance requirement for the engine space fire port is reasonable for
> coastal sailing where assistance is close by and/or one could make for
> shore quickly.  If your plans include some offshore voyages I recommend
> looking into a upgrade to the auto deploy type extinguishers.  There are
> some smaller sizes that are easy to mount with self-contained heat
> activated release mechanisms.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Bina
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:24 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRYD2Wv6lY
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
> On 4/17/2014 1:10 PM, Robert Boyer wrote:
> > Why would you need this with a Diesel engine?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Bob Boyer
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Della Barba, Joe]

Actually diesel engines have caused WAY more fires than gasoline engines over 
the years.
Gas *fires* are pretty rare. Usually it is a gas explosion and THEN a fire, at 
which point a fire extinguisher is kinda pointless.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

Why would you need this with a Diesel engine?

Bob

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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Martin DeYoung]

The diesel engine fire video demonstrates one of the reasons Calypso has an 
automatically deployed Halon (aprox 10lb) fire extinguisher mounted in the 
engine space.

I had firefighting classes as part of my merchant marine training and have 
fought a fire underway (in 1979 on a C&C 39, galley fire, 2 days NE of Hawaii) 
that took 3 small dry chem extinguishers to put down.  I am a fan of having 
several smaller extinguishers in handy locations, larger ones near the likely 
risks (engine/battery spaces and galley), and the automatic type if a fire 
could start undetected.

I also have small dry chem's mounted near likely exit points (especially up 
forward) in case someone is trapped by a fire near the campionway.  When I was 
fighting the C&C 39 fire my wife was stuck forward by the head and could not 
get on deck (where some of the crew was preparing the life raft in case the 
fire spread) without passing through a cloud of dry chem and smoke.

The insurance requirement for the engine space fire port is reasonable for 
coastal sailing where assistance is close by and/or one could make for shore 
quickly.  If your plans include some offshore voyages I recommend looking into 
a upgrade to the auto deploy type extinguishers.  There are some smaller sizes 
that are easy to mount with self-contained heat activated release mechanisms.

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bina
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRYD2Wv6lY

Bill Bina


On 4/17/2014 1:10 PM, Robert Boyer wrote:
> Why would you need this with a Diesel engine?
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Boyer
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> Annapolis, Maryland
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Frank Woronkowicz]

Steven
Sail boats do not have fix FF SYSTEM. Ships engine room  must have fix system  
CO2 (not HALLON ). 
( USCG CFR and Canadian Cost Guard Gazette regulations). 
You need only extinguisher with vailid exp. Date.
V/R
SFW

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> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Stevan Plavsa  wrote:
> 
> So, do you mount that ugly thing in the cockpit somewhere?
> 
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:36 PM,  wrote:
>> Phew - bet your wallet is breathing a sigh of relief!
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> From: Glen Eddie
>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:28 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.
>> 
>> Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments from everyone.  I know how to 
>> tackle it now.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Glen Eddie
>> 
>> Tel:  416-777-5357
>> 
>> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>> 
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>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich 
>> Knowles
>> Sent: April-17-14 11:25 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Drill a hole into the engine compartment in an appropriate place and put a 
>> small hinged cover with a slide bolt or similar to lock it shut. 
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:00, Glen Eddie  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
>> recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I 
>> am happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
>> fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
>> 
>> portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
>> 
>> in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
>> 
>> into the engine compartment without opening the
>> 
>> primary access.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your assistance is appreciated.
>> 
>> Glen Eddie
>> 
>> Tel:  416-777-5357
>> 
>> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>> 
>> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>> 
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Bill Bina]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHRYD2Wv6lY

Bill Bina


On 4/17/2014 1:10 PM, Robert Boyer wrote:

Why would you need this with a Diesel engine?

Bob

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Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Robert Boyer]

Why would you need this with a Diesel engine?

Bob

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days
1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
Annapolis, Maryland
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Stevan Plavsa]

So, do you mount that ugly thing in the cockpit somewhere?

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:36 PM,  wrote:

> Phew - bet your wallet is breathing a sigh of relief!
>
> sam :-)
>   *From: *Glen Eddie
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:28 AM
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.
>
>  Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments from everyone.  I know how to
> tackle it now.
>
>
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel:  416-777-5357
>
> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
>
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rich
> Knowles
> *Sent:* April-17-14 11:25 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.
>
>
>
> Drill a hole into the engine compartment in an appropriate place and put a
> small hinged cover with a slide bolt or similar to lock it shut.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:00, Glen Eddie  wrote:
>
>  Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey
> recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which
> I am happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
>
>
>
>
>
> *B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire
> fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized*
>
> *portable fire extinguisher provided and installed*
>
> *in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly*
>
> *into the engine compartment without opening the*
>
> *primary access.*
>
>
>
> Your assistance is appreciated.
>  --
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[sam . c . salter]

Phew - bet your wallet is breathing a sigh of relief!   sam :-) From: Glen EddieSent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:28 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.







Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments from everyone.  I know how to tackle it now.

 









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Drill a hole into the engine compartment in an appropriate place and put a small hinged cover with a slide bolt or similar to lock it shut. 

Rich



On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:00, Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com> wrote:



Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I am happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
 
 
B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
into the engine compartment without opening the
primary access.
 
Your assistance is appreciated. 








Glen Eddie




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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Dennis C.]

I have exactly what Bill suggests with a fire extinguisher within 12-18
inches of it.

The idea is to extinguish an engine fire without opening an access to let
oxygen in.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Bill Bina  wrote:

>  You need something such as this, with a portable extinguisher mounted
> near it:
>
>
> http://www.westmarine.com/portable-fire-extinguishers/marine-east--fire-port--3734464
>
> Bill Bina
>
>
>
> On 4/17/2014 11:00 AM, Glen Eddie wrote:
>
>  Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey
> recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which
> I am happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
>
>
>
>
>
> *B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire
> fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized*
>
> *portable fire extinguisher provided and installed*
>
> *in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly*
>
> *into the engine compartment without opening the*
>
> *primary access.*
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Glen Eddie]

Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments from everyone.  I know how to tackle 
it now.

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
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Subject: Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

Drill a hole into the engine compartment in an appropriate place and put a 
small hinged cover with a slide bolt or similar to lock it shut.

Rich

On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:00, Glen Eddie 
mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com>> wrote:
Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I am 
happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.


B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
into the engine compartment without opening the
primary access.

Your assistance is appreciated.

Glen Eddie

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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Rich Knowles]

Drill a hole into the engine compartment in an appropriate place and put a 
small hinged cover with a slide bolt or similar to lock it shut. 

Rich

> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:00, Glen Eddie  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
> recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I 
> am happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
>  
>  
> B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
> fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
> portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
> in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
> into the engine compartment without opening the
> primary access.
>  
> Your assistance is appreciated.
> Glen Eddie
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> Fax:  1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Wwadjourn]

Here is link to Fire Port. 
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi.

http://www.marineeast.com/a_sch/sch_det.asp?cid=13&pid=13_01

-Original Message-
From: Glen Eddie 
To: cnc-list 
Sent: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 11:00 am
Subject: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.



Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I am 
happy to do provided that it doesn’t cost me $$.
 
 
B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
into the engine compartment without opening the
primary access.
 
Your assistance is appreciated. 




Glen Eddie


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Fax:  1-888-812-2557


ged...@torkinmanes.com


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Re: Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Bill Bina]

You need something such as this, with a portable extinguisher mounted 
near it:


http://www.westmarine.com/portable-fire-extinguishers/marine-east--fire-port--3734464

Bill Bina


On 4/17/2014 11:00 AM, Glen Eddie wrote:


Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, 
which I am happy to do provided that it doesn't cost me $$.


/B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed 
fire fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single 
suitably sized/


/portable fire extinguisher provided and installed/

/in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly/

/into the engine compartment without opening the/

/primary access./

Your assistance is appreciated.



*Glen Eddie*

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com 

VCard 

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Stus-List ABYC compliance issue.

[Glen Eddie]

Can someone please let me know how to comply with the below Survey 
recommendation for a C&C35 MkI.  My Insurer is requiring compliance, which I am 
happy to do provided that it doesn't cost me $$.


B.10 (PAGE 10) FIXED FIRE EXTINGUISHING SYSTEM (HALON TYPE):No fixed fire 
fighting system on vessel. As per ABYC A-4.5.2.2, A single suitably sized
portable fire extinguisher provided and installed
in proximity to a port to permit discharge directly
into the engine compartment without opening the
primary access.

Your assistance is appreciated.

Glen Eddie

Tel:  416-777-5357

Fax:  1-888-812-2557

ged...@torkinmanes.com

VCard

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