Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes
Helps to lube the spline with soapy water. Dennis C. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have a total of 6 of the old style aluminum frame windows on my two > boat, so I made sure I saved the “recipe” for resealing the portlights for > future reference. > > > > Rule 1: never touch the aluminum frame, you will create a leak > > > > Between the frame and the window you will need a seal. In 2016 the list > recommended the following: > > Frost King V25BK EPDM weatherstripping > > M-D Building Products 01025 D Profile Auto and Marine Weatherstripping > > The MD Building Products stuff is available at Home Depot or Lowes, and a > 25 foot long box is pretty cheap – maybe $10. > > > > For the window panels I went to a local shop that repairs storm doors and > had them use an old window panel as s template to make new windows. I used > ¼” cast plexi in a fairly dark color (bronze?) because they had several > sheets in stock already and would not need to order a full sheet for a > darker color. > > > > The window goes on top of the weatherstripping seal, and is held in place > by a rubber strip called a spline. Spline material is available at any > glass shop that fixes storm doors and/or storm windows. I took a 6” snippet > of old spline to a local shop and bought 10 or 12 feet for less than a > dollar a foot last time I needed some. I also found it on EBay but would > have needed to buy a 100 foot roll. Cheap but who need a 3 lifetime supply > of window spline? > > > > When installing the seal and the spline, start at the top center of the > frame with a smooth square cut end. Go around the frame making sure you get > into the corners and making sure you do not stretch the material. I use a > tongue depresser/popsickle stick to push the spline into the slot between > plexi and frame – pushing “back” in the direction you are coming from to > help ensure not stretching the material. When you get back to the top > center of the frame make a tight joint and you should never have a leak. As > the spline ages and oxidizes it will shrink and eventually pull out of the > corners, and you can just replace the spline. > > > > Rick Brass > > Washington, NC > > > > > > > > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes
I have a total of 6 of the old style aluminum frame windows on my two boat, so I made sure I saved the “recipe” for resealing the portlights for future reference. Rule 1: never touch the aluminum frame, you will create a leak Between the frame and the window you will need a seal. In 2016 the list recommended the following: Frost King V25BK EPDM weatherstripping M-D Building Products 01025 D Profile Auto and Marine Weatherstripping The MD Building Products stuff is available at Home Depot or Lowes, and a 25 foot long box is pretty cheap – maybe $10. For the window panels I went to a local shop that repairs storm doors and had them use an old window panel as s template to make new windows. I used ¼” cast plexi in a fairly dark color (bronze?) because they had several sheets in stock already and would not need to order a full sheet for a darker color. The window goes on top of the weatherstripping seal, and is held in place by a rubber strip called a spline. Spline material is available at any glass shop that fixes storm doors and/or storm windows. I took a 6” snippet of old spline to a local shop and bought 10 or 12 feet for less than a dollar a foot last time I needed some. I also found it on EBay but would have needed to buy a 100 foot roll. Cheap but who need a 3 lifetime supply of window spline? When installing the seal and the spline, start at the top center of the frame with a smooth square cut end. Go around the frame making sure you get into the corners and making sure you do not stretch the material. I use a tongue depresser/popsickle stick to push the spline into the slot between plexi and frame – pushing “back” in the direction you are coming from to help ensure not stretching the material. When you get back to the top center of the frame make a tight joint and you should never have a leak. As the spline ages and oxidizes it will shrink and eventually pull out of the corners, and you can just replace the spline. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ellmore via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 3:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Doug Ellmore <d...@ellmore.net> Subject: Stus-List C 24 Portholes Before the snow started today, we got the old portholes out with the leaky lenses. I have new lenses from another C 24 owner he never used before he crushed the boat. So, I have to get all the goup and junk off the frames, get them clean. Then figure out how to install properly. We put a tarp over the cabin to keep it dry with the snow and rain. Looking at what was done by the last installer, does not look correct. Go figure! -- Doug Ellmore, Sr. d...@ellmore.net <mailto:d...@ellmore.net> ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes
Sorry Eric, I only know of the Canadian suppliers. I have heard of some listers taking a piece of the spline to a glass shop and matching it up with their stock. Anyone in MA. know where Eric can get the spline? Rick Taillieu Boatless Leamington, Ontario From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Frank via CnC-List Sent: February-17-18 18:02 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Eric Frank Subject: Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes Rick, The windows on Cat’s Paw (CC35 MkII) also need to be reset. Do you know of a supplier in the US? Doesn’t have to be close to Boston, but someplace easy to order from for US sailors. Thanks, Eric Cat's Paw C 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> www.avg.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes
Rick, The windows on Cat’s Paw (CC35 MkII) also need to be reset. Do you know of a supplier in the US? Doesn’t have to be close to Boston, but someplace easy to order from for US sailors. Thanks, Eric Cat's Paw C 35 Mk II Mattapoisett, MA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List C 24 Portholes
Doug, it sounds like you have the older framed windows. You need something between the frame and the lenses, thin foam or butyl tape. The lenses go in next then a rubber spline gets installed in the gap between the lens and the frame to lock everything in. Holland Marinehttp://www.hollandmarine.com/gasketpage.html and other places have the correct spline. Holland Marine recommends the butyl tape but if you live in an area with very hot summers the butyl may weep a bit. When you install the spline soak it in hot soapy water to make it very pliable, start putting it in at the middle of the top of the window and most importantly really work it into the corners without stretching it. If you stretch it pushing it into the corners it will pull out as it ages and shrinks. If you say where you are located in your signature line, local listers can probably point you to a local source for the spline. It’s a time consuming job but not very hard to do. Cheers Rick Taillieu Boatless Leamington, Ontario From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ellmore via CnC-List Sent: February-17-18 15:25 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Doug Ellmore Subject: Stus-List C 24 Portholes Before the snow started today, we got the old portholes out with the leaky lenses. I have new lenses from another C 24 owner he never used before he crushed the boat. So, I have to get all the goup and junk off the frames, get them clean. Then figure out how to install properly. We put a tarp over the cabin to keep it dry with the snow and rain. Looking at what was done by the last installer, does not look correct. Go figure! -- Doug Ellmore, Sr. d...@ellmore.net <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> www.avg.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List C 24 Portholes
Before the snow started today, we got the old portholes out with the leaky lenses. I have new lenses from another C 24 owner he never used before he crushed the boat. So, I have to get all the goup and junk off the frames, get them clean. Then figure out how to install properly. We put a tarp over the cabin to keep it dry with the snow and rain. Looking at what was done by the last installer, does not look correct. Go figure! -- Doug Ellmore, Sr. d...@ellmore.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
