Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
Hey Randy, I have 30-1 hull number 377. She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75. I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the V-berth and the head. I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it would probably be a tight fit. I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki which I thought was pretty cool. I don't remember seeing a door option on it. Not sure what year it's from: > https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html > Ryan Doyle S/V Nobody's Bargain 1976 C&C 30mki #377 New York Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC) From: randy.staff...@comcast.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Message-ID: <414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
Later versions (1980) have a hinged door between the salon and head areas and a double hinged door between the v-berth and the head. I’m not sure whether that was standard or optional – I think that list may be in my paperwork. Gary Nylander #593 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:03 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Hey Randy, I have 30-1 hull number 377. She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75. I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the V-berth and the head. I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it would probably be a tight fit. I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki which I thought was pretty cool. I don't remember seeing a door option on it. Not sure what year it's from: <https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html> https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html Ryan Doyle S/V Nobody's Bargain 1976 C&C 30mki #377 New York Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC) From: randy.staff...@comcast.net <mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Message-ID: <414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net <mailto:414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com <http://data.com/> and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
My 35 MKII came with a door that hinges in the middle, so it stores like half a door against the port bulkead where its primary hinges are located and its bottom is about 18 inches above the cabin sole...you could probably fabricate something similar for the 30 MKI Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Ryan Doyle via CnC-List wrote: > Hey Randy, > > I have 30-1 hull number 377. She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75. > > I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the > V-berth and the head. I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it > would probably be a tight fit. > > I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi > posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki > which I thought was pretty cool. I don't remember seeing a door option on > it. Not sure what year it's from: >> >> https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html > > > Ryan Doyle > S/V Nobody's Bargain > 1976 C&C 30mki #377 > New York > > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC) > From: randy.staff...@comcast.net > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors > Message-ID: ><414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > C&C Sailors- > > I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. > It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this > community. > > The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon > and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C > 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and > head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. > Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in > later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner > and never replaced. Thanks in advance. > > Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the > brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's > higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by > differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I > launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. > > Cheers, > Randy Stafford > S/V Grenadine > C&C 30 MK1 #7 > Ken Caryl, CO > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
I dug up my Owners Manual – it doesn’t have the lists, but the line diagram of the boat shows the swinging door and double doors as I described. My owners manual has various updates listed but that particular page isn’t dated. Gary From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:09 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Nylander Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Later versions (1980) have a hinged door between the salon and head areas and a double hinged door between the v-berth and the head. I’m not sure whether that was standard or optional – I think that list may be in my paperwork. Gary Nylander #593 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:03 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Ryan Doyle mailto:ryanpdo...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Hey Randy, I have 30-1 hull number 377. She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75. I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the V-berth and the head. I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it would probably be a tight fit. I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki which I thought was pretty cool. I don't remember seeing a door option on it. Not sure what year it's from: <https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html> https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html Ryan Doyle S/V Nobody's Bargain 1976 C&C 30mki #377 New York Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC) From: randy.staff...@comcast.net <mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Message-ID: <414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net <mailto:414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com <http://data.com/> and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
I have a C&C 30 "77" model year. >From my HIN ZCC304531076 I would guess it is #453 laid up October 1976. I have the sliding door and after a few years of ownership the PO dropped off the folding door that the PPO had removed. At haulout, so no mast and most stuff removed the crane weighs me at 8500 - 8800 lbs. Some of the C&C specs claimed 7,900 lbs which may have been possible stripped out, one battery and tiller steering. I think in race trim carrying stuff like flares, anchor and rode, #1 - #3 - spinnakers, spin and whisker pole I would guess 10,000 lbs is reasonable. Also - from your other post on boom vangs - the early C&C 30 have a very low boom so the mounting angle needs to be considered. The distance on the mast from the gooseneck to above the mast collar is pretty minimal. Most boom vang installation instructions suggest a minimum angle they should be mounted at and that usually isn't possible on the early 30s. I have an Easykick II installed that works OK and does support the boom ( a racing requirement ). Downwind we use it to control boom lift, and upwind it is useful for setting depth and twist. I would recommend installing one, doesn't have to be fancy or expensive. I very much doubt given the short distance on the mast it operates over and the stiffness of the mast that any significant mast bend is generated. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
FYI, The equipment list came with my boat and it's from 1979. Cheers, Aaron R. Admiral Maggie, 1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540 Annapolis, MD From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Doyle via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:03 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Ryan Doyle Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Hey Randy, I have 30-1 hull number 377. She's a 1976 model year built in 12/75. I too have a slider between the head and the salon, but nothing between the V-berth and the head. I'd imagine it would have to be a swing door and it would probably be a tight fit. I'm on the train, so I cant really view this link right now, but Aaron Rouhi posted this Standard and Optional equipment list the other day for the 30mki which I thought was pretty cool. I don't remember seeing a door option on it. Not sure what year it's from: https://www.docdroid.net/6FjEscQ/standardoptionaleqlist.pdf.html Ryan Doyle S/V Nobody's Bargain 1976 C&C 30mki #377 New York Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 02:52:45 + (UTC) From: randy.staff...@comcast.net<mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors Message-ID: <414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net<mailto:414472037.2608189.1455159165092.javamail.zim...@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com<http://data.com/> and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
Thanks Aaron, Gary, Michael, Ryan. That optional equipment list didn't show any options for interior doors. Interestingly, however, it did show an option for a boom vang :) I will assume my boat either didn't come with a door between head and v-berth, or the door was removed and not replaced by a former owner (I can look for evidence of that). I'll probably want one and fabricate one - add that to the project list :) Cheers, Randy - Original Message - From: "Michael Brown via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Michael Brown" Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 10:38:37 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors I have a C&C 30 "77" model year. >From my HIN ZCC304531076 I would guess it is #453 laid up October 1976. I have the sliding door and after a few years of ownership the PO dropped off the folding door that the PPO had removed. At haulout, so no mast and most stuff removed the crane weighs me at 8500 - 8800 lbs. Some of the C&C specs claimed 7,900 lbs which may have been possible stripped out, one battery and tiller steering. I think in race trim carrying stuff like flares, anchor and rode, #1 - #3 - spinnakers, spin and whisker pole I would guess 10,000 lbs is reasonable. Also - from your other post on boom vangs - the early C&C 30 have a very low boom so the mounting angle needs to be considered. The distance on the mast from the gooseneck to above the mast collar is pretty minimal. Most boom vang installation instructions suggest a minimum angle they should be mounted at and that usually isn't possible on the early 30s. I have an Easykick II installed that works OK and does support the boom ( a racing requirement ). Downwind we use it to control boom lift, and upwind it is useful for setting depth and twist. I would recommend installing one, doesn't have to be fancy or expensive. I very much doubt given the short distance on the mast it operates over and the stiffness of the mast that any significant mast bend is generated. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 C&C Sailors- I noticed the owner of C&C 30 MK1 hull #1, Rick Bushie, is on this list. It's awesome that boat is still sailing, and that her owner is in this community. The C&C 30 MK1 hull #7 I just bought has a sliding door between the salon and the head, but no door between the head and the v-berth. Some of the C&C 30 MK1 brochures (I suspect later ones) show a hinged door between salon and head, and a folding door or double hinged doors between head and v-berth. Does anyone know if the door(s) between head and v-berth were an addition in later hull numbers? Or maybe my boat's doors were removed by a former owner and never replaced. Thanks in advance. Also, Rick, what is the displacement of your boat? Sailboat data.com and the brochures show 8000 pounds. But the previous owner of hull #7 thinks it's higher, like 10,000 pounds. I'll measure her precise displacement by differencing truck scale weights of loaded and unloaded trailer after I launch her this spring, but just wanted to check with you. Cheers, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30 MK1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Early 30-1 Interior Doors
Anchovy has a hinged bi-fold door between the v-berth and the head. The hinges are on the hanging locker side and is held either open or closed with a simple hook and eye assembly. As far as displacement, I really couldn't say as I've never weighed her. Rick Bushie Anchovy, 1971 30-1, Hull 1 Worton, MD Sent from my iPhone ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com