Stus-List NOWFUEL

2015-12-30 Thread James Nichols via CnC-List
This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am 
going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.
I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are times 
and places that having a motor would be desirable.
There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred dollars 
and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making either a diesel 
outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have an inboard diesel 
motor.
I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an inboard 
gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the design to a 
stitch and glue build. 
I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really isn't 
open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.
Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39? ___

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Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL

2015-12-30 Thread David via CnC-List
+1

Never had a problem with a gasoline tank in the dinghy...and I sail in a 
washing machine:  aka Buzzards Bay.   If it wont shake loose there...it ain't 
gonna shake loose anywhere.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


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The 39 is a big 35 and the stern is kind of narrow. It is not ideal for davits, 
I just tow my dinghy.

My dinghy has a 6 gallon tank and sometimes I have a 5 gallon jug in there too. 
That is plenty of dinghy gas without carrying more jugs on deck. I would not 
try and make an inboard diesel dinghy, but YMMV.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

Octopus
Avon RIB 3.4 meter with a 6 gallon gas tank
 
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This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am 
going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.

 


I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are times 
and places that having a motor would be desirable.


 


There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred dollars 
and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making either a diesel 
outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have an inboard diesel
 motor.


 


I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an inboard 
gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the design to a 
stitch and glue build. 


 


I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really isn't 
open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.


 


Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39? 





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Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL

2015-12-30 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The 39 is a big 35 and the stern is kind of narrow. It is not ideal for davits, 
I just tow my dinghy.
My dinghy has a 6 gallon tank and sometimes I have a 5 gallon jug in there too. 
That is plenty of dinghy gas without carrying more jugs on deck. I would not 
try and make an inboard diesel dinghy, but YMMV.
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I
Octopus
Avon RIB 3.4 meter with a 6 gallon gas tank

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This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am 
going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.

I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are times 
and places that having a motor would be desirable.

There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred dollars 
and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making either a diesel 
outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have an inboard diesel 
motor.

I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an inboard 
gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the design to a 
stitch and glue build.

I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really isn't 
open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.

Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39?
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Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL - dinghy fuel tank

2015-12-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Moeller-DinghyMate-Topside-Marine-3-Gallon/product-reviews/B000MT94UG

Works OK.  Usually I forgo the motor and tank and just row.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:47 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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> +1
>
> Never had a problem with a gasoline tank in the dinghy...and I sail in a
> washing machine:  aka Buzzards Bay.   If it wont shake loose there...it
> ain't gonna shake loose anywhere.
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:38:45 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov
>
>
> The 39 is a big 35 and the stern is kind of narrow. It is not ideal for
> davits, I just tow my dinghy.
> My dinghy has a 6 gallon tank and sometimes I have a 5 gallon jug in there
> too. That is plenty of dinghy gas without carrying more jugs on deck. I
> would not try and make an inboard diesel dinghy, but YMMV.
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
> Octopus
>
> Avon RIB 3.4 meter with a 6 gallon gas tank
>
>
>
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> *Subject:* Stus-List NOWFUEL
>
>
>
> This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am
> going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.
>
>
>
> I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are
> times and places that having a motor would be desirable.
>
>
>
> There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred
> dollars and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making
> either a diesel outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have
> an inboard diesel motor.
>
>
>
> I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an
> inboard gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the
> design to a stitch and glue build.
>
>
>
> I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really
> isn't open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.
>
>
>
> Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39?
>
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Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL - dinghy fuel tank

2015-12-30 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have a 6 gallon outboard tank bungee corded to the floor under the center 
seat. I discovered that if you don’t tie it down, a heavy rainstorm can fill 
the dinghy to the point the tank floats and gets capsized by the hose pulling 
on it. Makes a big mess when water gets in the vent and gas comes out ☹
I also have two of these tanks. Bad point is it is metal and good point is it 
is totally weather proof, water proof, does not leak, and does not get fumes in 
your car.
http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-UI-50-FS-Galvanized-Gasoline-Capacity/dp/B00GVJAXZQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1451509779=8-10=metal+fuel+tank
I bought a 5 gallon after finding a brand new never had fuel in it 2.5 gallon 
version sitting by the dumpster and loving it.

Joe
Coquina


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Subject: Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL - dinghy fuel tank

I have one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Moeller-DinghyMate-Topside-Marine-3-Gallon/product-reviews/B000MT94UG
Works OK.  Usually I forgo the motor and tank and just row.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:47 PM, David via CnC-List 
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+1

Never had a problem with a gasoline tank in the dinghy...and I sail in a 
washing machine:  aka Buzzards Bay.   If it wont shake loose there...it ain't 
gonna shake loose anywhere.

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650<tel:%28401%29%20419-4650> (cell)


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The 39 is a big 35 and the stern is kind of narrow. It is not ideal for davits, 
I just tow my dinghy.
My dinghy has a 6 gallon tank and sometimes I have a 5 gallon jug in there too. 
That is plenty of dinghy gas without carrying more jugs on deck. I would not 
try and make an inboard diesel dinghy, but YMMV.

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

Octopus

Avon RIB 3.4 meter with a 6 gallon gas tank



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This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am 
going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.



I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are times 
and places that having a motor would be desirable.



There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred dollars 
and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making either a diesel 
outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have an inboard diesel 
motor.



I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an inboard 
gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the design to a 
stitch and glue build.



I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really isn't 
open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.



Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39?

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Re: Stus-List NOWFUEL

2015-12-30 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
James,

I did not see any responses from other 39 owners to your question regarding 
adding davits to a C 39, hopefully one of the 39 owners with cruising 
experience will answer soon.

My experience with the 39s is based on 4 years PNW racing and 2 Seattle/So 
Cal/Hawaii round trips back in the late 70’s and early 80’s.  We did not add 
significant weight to the ends of the 39 to keep up light air performance.

IIRC the 39 has relatively narrow ends with not a lot of extra buoyancy in the 
stern when compared to the 43 I now own.  It seems that many other, mostly 
newer (think Hunter) designs that carry davits well have a “lot of junk in the 
trunk” e.g. a wide stern with a lot of buoyancy.

If you will be sailing in calmer waters and not planning to venture offshore in 
rough weather the reduction in sailing performance might not be an issue.  The 
narrow width of the 39s stern might limit your design issues.  Contacting a few 
fabricators (Garhauer may be helpful) and asking if they have a davit design in 
stock for boats similar to a 39 you may be able to visualize what it would look 
like.

In the October issue of the PNW sailing magazine 48 North (digital back issues 
available on the 48 North web site), on page 32, a C 39 owner has an article 
about cruising in the PNW.  Based on a picture with the article the author’s 39 
“Nordic Sun” based in Tacoma WA looked to be loaded with full cruising gear, 
but not davits.  If you can contact him he might be able to quantify how the 
extra weight affected performance.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle

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This is one of the things I have been considering with my dinghy that I am 
going to add to my C 39. I really don't want gasoline on the boat.

I thought about just having row and sail power for my dinghy, but the are times 
and places that having a motor would be desirable.

There are some small diesel motors on ebay, for less than a few hundred dollars 
and I enjoy construction projects. So, I thought about making either a diesel 
outdoors out of on, or building a dinghy and making it have an inboard diesel 
motor.

I've downloaded some plans for a small water taxi type boat with an inboard 
gasoline engine of about 3hp. I am looking at how to adapt the design to a 
stitch and glue build.

I'm sure that I'll need to install davits to carry it as there really isn't 
open deck space on the 39 to carry it forward.

Any one have experience in adding davits to the 39?
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