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Found this paint roller bucket very handy. Use at home and on the boat too as a mini roller can hook onto the lip and it has a magnet to hold your paintbrush for cutting in. $15 but well worth it. Wooster, paint bucket available at Home Depot. Mini foam rollers didn't hold enough paint and mini mohair rollers worked better for me. Found them at Boatworkstoday.com. Chuck S > On 06/24/2022 2:21 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Whatever paint you choose, consider applying it with a mini foam roller. > I used a brush to paint Brightside on the interior of Touche's head door. > Left minor brush strokes. > > On the other hand, I painted some doors in my house with a mini foam > roller. The difference is noticeable. The mini roller left a nice smooth > finish. Looks like it was sprayed. > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA >
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My teak is holding paint. It took several coats to keep the oil from showing through. I read someplace fishermen use exterior house paint to paint their boats, they get banged up too often for yacht quality work to be worth it. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I Kent Island MD USA From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 4:36 PM To: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Hi Mathew, I've been told teak won't hold paint. Mahoghany can be painted but not teak. Last year I painted my fiberglass ceiling. I had added some fiberglass cloth over high stress areas under the clutches and faired with Total Fair, so these areas were green. I chose a good quality exterior latex paint from Behr. "Off White" is the color and I love how it looks. I chose the Scrub Defense version with "paint and primer" is in the can. One coat using a mohair roller did the trick hiding all the differenet colors of fairing and filled holes, ets; all my good work and it looks like a new boat, better than when I got her twenty years ago. I chose Behr simply because fifteen years ago, I had Home Depot color match my deck and painted a few areas that were scraped pretty bad. That paint never peeled or flaked off after fifteen years, while some much more expensive and smelly Brightside paint did within five years There are many good paints available now; Zinnser, Kiltz, but also Rustoleum sprays and any good exterior house paint. I would suggest using a high quailty water based paint for your interior. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis On 06/24/2022 9:15 AM Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Listers: As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom
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Hi Mathew, I've been told teak won't hold paint. Mahoghany can be painted but not teak. Last year I painted my fiberglass ceiling. I had added some fiberglass cloth over high stress areas under the clutches and faired with Total Fair, so these areas were green. I chose a good quality exterior latex paint from Behr. "Off White" is the color and I love how it looks. I chose the Scrub Defense version with "paint and primer" is in the can. One coat using a mohair roller did the trick hiding all the differenet colors of fairing and filled holes, ets; all my good work and it looks like a new boat, better than when I got her twenty years ago. I chose Behr simply because fifteen years ago, I had Home Depot color match my deck and painted a few areas that were scraped pretty bad. That paint never peeled or flaked off after fifteen years, while some much more expensive and smelly Brightside paint did within five years There are many good paints available now; Zinnser, Kiltz, but also Rustoleum sprays and any good exterior house paint. I would suggest using a high quailty water based paint for your interior. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis > On 06/24/2022 9:15 AM Matthew via CnC-List wrote: > > > > Listers: > > > As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish > (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to > look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not > have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs > some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the > military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh > coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior > bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. > > > Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > > Matt Wolford > > C&C 42 Custom > > >
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I painted the interior ceiling of the head ~ 11 years ago using Brightside [Interlux] and mixed in a little of their dulling agent to tone down the high shine of the enamel surface and it remains looking great. Did as Dennis suggested, using the mini foam roller other than cutting in the edges, with foam brushes. Only prep was wiping down [repeatedly] with a clean cloth with one of the Interlux solvents – think it was 202 but possibly 216, cannot be certain at this point. Very easy prep and very easy painting. No mess in the interior. The surface was in good condition, so that helped. There was the paint smell, but that lasted only a day or so. Plan to do the same in the forepeak this summer. Brian From: rjcasciato--- via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:39 PM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt: I hate to play the Admiral’s card here, but she will definitely like the no sanding, no dust, and no paint smell better than have to do a clean up to the entire interior. Just sayin’ Ron From: Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:16 PM To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Matthew mailto:wolf...@erie.net> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Hmmm – just as I was zeroing in on a type of paint. The vinyl-covered panel idea separated by teak molding was my original plan. Now you have me waffling. From: rjcasciato--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:00 PM To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net <mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt: Your first thought might be the best one depending on how handy you are with making panels from “door skins”…… My 38MKII was custom built in the Bruckman shop in 1977. They fashioned several panels running fore and aft on either side of the center line and covered them with an upholstery type vinyl. Then they used Velcro (1977 version???) around the back edge of each panel and stuck it to the ceiling. So, 45 years later, that vinyl??? is still intact and still white. The Velcro has now failed on several panels and my project for the summer is to use the original panels and recover them with a new version of similar vinyl sourced from Marine Surplus, Inc. in Sarasota Florida. If you don’t have the panels already, you can make a template from cardboard or contractors’ paper and trace the roof outline, around the openings, etc. The stuff comes in 4 x 8 size. My ceiling is divided across port to starboard about 4-5’ forward of the companionway. That means that I will have 8 very manageable panels that are separated by the teak strip mentioned below and then butted up against each other at that lateral dividing line. There will be no sanding, filling, and painting involved. I will, however, use screws instead of Velcro into the original ceiling with screw covers (Lowe’s) and be done with it for another 45 years. If I can find a picture of how it looked with it all up, I will post it. They separated the panels fore and aft with a center strip (2”) of teak, and I have two handrails fore and aft on either side of the centerline about 20” apart from the centerline. That gives the ceiling a finished look without looking like a big white sheet of vinyl. As far as the “tired look”, I have also replaced all the countertops with a new white laminate, and new sinks. It certainly freshens up the interior…….. It’s an easy way to freshen up the interior, I agree with your admiral. I’m giving thought to having one of those “redo your bathroom in one day” folks come and give me an estimate on redoing my head compartment……wood certainly does not belong in the head Especially after 45 years of service. Have fun with it, good luck and post the results. Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC ‘77 From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 1:50 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Martin DeYoung mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt, I painted Calypso’s fiberglass overhead with Brightside this winter. I prepped by removing 40+ years of old paint and primers then faired and sealed with epoxy materials. In many places I was fairing over repairs. I used an epoxy based high build primer, several coats as a sealer and transition coat. The results were good assuming I throttled back my expectations from “the look of the hood on a fancy car” to better than the right rear quarter panel of a pickup truck. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle On Jun 24, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc
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Matt: I hate to play the Admiral’s card here, but she will definitely like the no sanding, no dust, and no paint smell better than have to do a clean up to the entire interior. Just sayin’ Ron From: Matthew via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:16 PM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Matthew Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Hmmm – just as I was zeroing in on a type of paint. The vinyl-covered panel idea separated by teak molding was my original plan. Now you have me waffling. From: rjcasciato--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:00 PM To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net <mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt: Your first thought might be the best one depending on how handy you are with making panels from “door skins”…… My 38MKII was custom built in the Bruckman shop in 1977. They fashioned several panels running fore and aft on either side of the center line and covered them with an upholstery type vinyl. Then they used Velcro (1977 version???) around the back edge of each panel and stuck it to the ceiling. So, 45 years later, that vinyl??? is still intact and still white. The Velcro has now failed on several panels and my project for the summer is to use the original panels and recover them with a new version of similar vinyl sourced from Marine Surplus, Inc. in Sarasota Florida. If you don’t have the panels already, you can make a template from cardboard or contractors’ paper and trace the roof outline, around the openings, etc. The stuff comes in 4 x 8 size. My ceiling is divided across port to starboard about 4-5’ forward of the companionway. That means that I will have 8 very manageable panels that are separated by the teak strip mentioned below and then butted up against each other at that lateral dividing line. There will be no sanding, filling, and painting involved. I will, however, use screws instead of Velcro into the original ceiling with screw covers (Lowe’s) and be done with it for another 45 years. If I can find a picture of how it looked with it all up, I will post it. They separated the panels fore and aft with a center strip (2”) of teak, and I have two handrails fore and aft on either side of the centerline about 20” apart from the centerline. That gives the ceiling a finished look without looking like a big white sheet of vinyl. As far as the “tired look”, I have also replaced all the countertops with a new white laminate, and new sinks. It certainly freshens up the interior…….. It’s an easy way to freshen up the interior, I agree with your admiral. I’m giving thought to having one of those “redo your bathroom in one day” folks come and give me an estimate on redoing my head compartment……wood certainly does not belong in the head Especially after 45 years of service. Have fun with it, good luck and post the results. Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC ‘77 From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 1:50 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Martin DeYoung mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt, I painted Calypso’s fiberglass overhead with Brightside this winter. I prepped by removing 40+ years of old paint and primers then faired and sealed with epoxy materials. In many places I was fairing over repairs. I used an epoxy based high build primer, several coats as a sealer and transition coat. The results were good assuming I throttled back my expectations from “the look of the hood on a fancy car” to better than the right rear quarter panel of a pickup truck. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle On Jun 24, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Listers: As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom
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Hmmm – just as I was zeroing in on a type of paint. The vinyl-covered panel idea separated by teak molding was my original plan. Now you have me waffling. From: rjcasciato--- via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 3:00 PM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: rjcasci...@comcast.net Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt: Your first thought might be the best one depending on how handy you are with making panels from “door skins”…… My 38MKII was custom built in the Bruckman shop in 1977. They fashioned several panels running fore and aft on either side of the center line and covered them with an upholstery type vinyl. Then they used Velcro (1977 version???) around the back edge of each panel and stuck it to the ceiling. So, 45 years later, that vinyl??? is still intact and still white. The Velcro has now failed on several panels and my project for the summer is to use the original panels and recover them with a new version of similar vinyl sourced from Marine Surplus, Inc. in Sarasota Florida. If you don’t have the panels already, you can make a template from cardboard or contractors’ paper and trace the roof outline, around the openings, etc. The stuff comes in 4 x 8 size. My ceiling is divided across port to starboard about 4-5’ forward of the companionway. That means that I will have 8 very manageable panels that are separated by the teak strip mentioned below and then butted up against each other at that lateral dividing line. There will be no sanding, filling, and painting involved. I will, however, use screws instead of Velcro into the original ceiling with screw covers (Lowe’s) and be done with it for another 45 years. If I can find a picture of how it looked with it all up, I will post it. They separated the panels fore and aft with a center strip (2”) of teak, and I have two handrails fore and aft on either side of the centerline about 20” apart from the centerline. That gives the ceiling a finished look without looking like a big white sheet of vinyl. As far as the “tired look”, I have also replaced all the countertops with a new white laminate, and new sinks. It certainly freshens up the interior…….. It’s an easy way to freshen up the interior, I agree with your admiral. I’m giving thought to having one of those “redo your bathroom in one day” folks come and give me an estimate on redoing my head compartment……wood certainly does not belong in the head Especially after 45 years of service. Have fun with it, good luck and post the results. Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC ‘77 From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 1:50 PM To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Martin DeYoung mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt, I painted Calypso’s fiberglass overhead with Brightside this winter. I prepped by removing 40+ years of old paint and primers then faired and sealed with epoxy materials. In many places I was fairing over repairs. I used an epoxy based high build primer, several coats as a sealer and transition coat. The results were good assuming I throttled back my expectations from “the look of the hood on a fancy car” to better than the right rear quarter panel of a pickup truck. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle On Jun 24, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Listers: As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom
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Matt: Your first thought might be the best one depending on how handy you are with making panels from “door skins”…… My 38MKII was custom built in the Bruckman shop in 1977. They fashioned several panels running fore and aft on either side of the center line and covered them with an upholstery type vinyl. Then they used Velcro (1977 version???) around the back edge of each panel and stuck it to the ceiling. So, 45 years later, that vinyl??? is still intact and still white. The Velcro has now failed on several panels and my project for the summer is to use the original panels and recover them with a new version of similar vinyl sourced from Marine Surplus, Inc. in Sarasota Florida. If you don’t have the panels already, you can make a template from cardboard or contractors’ paper and trace the roof outline, around the openings, etc. The stuff comes in 4 x 8 size. My ceiling is divided across port to starboard about 4-5’ forward of the companionway. That means that I will have 8 very manageable panels that are separated by the teak strip mentioned below and then butted up against each other at that lateral dividing line. There will be no sanding, filling, and painting involved. I will, however, use screws instead of Velcro into the original ceiling with screw covers (Lowe’s) and be done with it for another 45 years. If I can find a picture of how it looked with it all up, I will post it. They separated the panels fore and aft with a center strip (2”) of teak, and I have two handrails fore and aft on either side of the centerline about 20” apart from the centerline. That gives the ceiling a finished look without looking like a big white sheet of vinyl. As far as the “tired look”, I have also replaced all the countertops with a new white laminate, and new sinks. It certainly freshens up the interior…….. It’s an easy way to freshen up the interior, I agree with your admiral. I’m giving thought to having one of those “redo your bathroom in one day” folks come and give me an estimate on redoing my head compartment……wood certainly does not belong in the head Especially after 45 years of service. Have fun with it, good luck and post the results. Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC ‘77 From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 1:50 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Martin DeYoung Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Matt, I painted Calypso’s fiberglass overhead with Brightside this winter. I prepped by removing 40+ years of old paint and primers then faired and sealed with epoxy materials. In many places I was fairing over repairs. I used an epoxy based high build primer, several coats as a sealer and transition coat. The results were good assuming I throttled back my expectations from “the look of the hood on a fancy car” to better than the right rear quarter panel of a pickup truck. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle On Jun 24, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Listers: As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom
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Excellent advice. Thanks. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 2:21 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List Re: Interior paint Whatever paint you choose, consider applying it with a mini foam roller. I used a brush to paint Brightside on the interior of Touche's head door. Left minor brush strokes. On the other hand, I painted some doors in my house with a mini foam roller. The difference is noticeable. The mini roller left a nice smooth finish. Looks like it was sprayed. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA
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I have used both interlux and total boat (which I recently discovered is actually made by Petit) and found the latter a much better product that does not sag and drip like interlux. Best of luck! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Whatever paint you choose, consider applying it with a mini foam roller. I > used a brush to paint Brightside on the interior of Touche's head door. Left > minor brush strokes. > > On the other hand, I painted some doors in my house with a mini foam roller. > The difference is noticeable. The mini roller left a nice smooth finish. > Looks like it was sprayed. > > -- > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA
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Whatever paint you choose, consider applying it with a mini foam roller. I used a brush to paint Brightside on the interior of Touche's head door. Left minor brush strokes. On the other hand, I painted some doors in my house with a mini foam roller. The difference is noticeable. The mini roller left a nice smooth finish. Looks like it was sprayed. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA
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Matt, I painted Calypso’s fiberglass overhead with Brightside this winter. I prepped by removing 40+ years of old paint and primers then faired and sealed with epoxy materials. In many places I was fairing over repairs. I used an epoxy based high build primer, several coats as a sealer and transition coat. The results were good assuming I throttled back my expectations from “the look of the hood on a fancy car” to better than the right rear quarter panel of a pickup truck. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Port Ludlow/Seattle On Jun 24, 2022, at 6:15 AM, Matthew via CnC-List wrote: Listers: As some of you may have surmised by my recent question about varnish (thanks for your responses), the Admiral would like the boat’s interior to look less, well, tired. Our boat is a Custom “stick” boat, so it does not have fiberglass liners, headliners, and the like. The interior ceiling needs some TLC. I thought about covering it with a vinyl fabric (to reduce the military look that I personally like), but the Admiral thinks that a fresh coat of white paint will suffice. I’m thinking about Zinnser interior bathroom paint, which is marketed as effective against mold and mildew. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance. Matt Wolford C&C 42 Custom
