Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-23 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
My Morningstar controller has been sharing duty with the battery charger for 
years with no ill effects.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

 

Josh:

 

Good point!  Not all voltage controllers are the same.

 

Bob

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On May 22, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Bob, I only stated that I was making an assumption based on my knowledge of 
other solar controllers.   I didn't know the specifics of Charlie's controller. 
 IMO if his controller was damaged by starting and stopping the charger then he 
probably needed a new/different one anyway. 

Josh 

On May 22, 2016 6:49 PM, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a solar 
panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my starting 
battery topped off between races without using the battery charger/AC although 
if I am on board, I will use the charger.

My question for the list is will the
Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the solar 
unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is protected against 
such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of this before it happens.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb









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Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-23 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Josh:

Good point!  Not all voltage controllers are the same.

Bob

Bob Boyer
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Annapolis, MD (presently in Baltimore)
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> On May 22, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob, I only stated that I was making an assumption based on my knowledge of 
> other solar controllers.   I didn't know the specifics of Charlie's 
> controller.  IMO if his controller was damaged by starting and stopping the 
> charger then he probably needed a new/different one anyway.
> 
> Josh
> 
>> On May 22, 2016 6:49 PM, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote:
>> I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a 
>> solar panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my 
>> starting battery topped off between races without using the battery 
>> charger/AC although if I am on board, I will use the charger.
>> 
>> My question for the list is will the
>> Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the 
>> solar unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is 
>> protected against such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of 
>> this before it happens.
>> 
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>> C 36 XL/kcb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List


Keep in mind that the controller will simply see a higher voltage on the 
battery and will stop charging. No ill effects.
My morningstar controller is permanently connected to the battery  (actually to 
both, but it is a dual controller). Any other source of charge has simply to 
compete. But all of them depend on the voltage, so they can easily work 
together.
MarekC270 "Legato "Ottawa, ON


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From: Charles Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 2016-05-22  18:49  (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Stus-List Solar power controllers

I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a solar 
panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my starting 
battery topped off between races without using the battery charger/AC although 
if I am on board, I will use the charger.

My question for the list is will the
Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the solar 
unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is protected against 
such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of this before it happens.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb









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Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bob, I only stated that I was making an assumption based on my knowledge of
other solar controllers.   I didn't know the specifics of Charlie's
controller.  IMO if his controller was damaged by starting and stopping the
charger then he probably needed a new/different one anyway.

Josh
On May 22, 2016 6:49 PM, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a
> solar panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my
> starting battery topped off between races without using the battery
> charger/AC although if I am on board, I will use the charger.
>
> My question for the list is will the
> Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the
> solar unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is
> protected against such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of
> this before it happens.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
No assumption needed.  When we have several days in a row that are rainy and 
overcast (like lately) my 300 watts of solar panels can’t keep up with our 
(livaboard) needs and I have to turn on the battery charger.  There are no ill 
effects since the controllers only allow electrical power flow in one direction.

Bob

> On May 22, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My natural assumption is no.  If you turn on the charger, the solar 
> controller is probably just going to turn off or reduce output.  The only 
> thing to be concerned about is connecting or disconnecting the battery while 
> the solar panels are connected.  The load on/load off surge is probably not 
> good for the controller.   Many of them have a connection sequence stated in 
> the owners manual.  Usually its battery on first then solar on.  Reverse the 
> sequence to disconnect the controller.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On May 22, 2016 6:49 PM, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List"  > wrote:
> I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a solar 
> panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my starting 
> battery topped off between races without using the battery charger/AC 
> although if I am on board, I will use the charger.
> 
> My question for the list is will the
> Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the 
> solar unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is protected 
> against such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of this before 
> it happens.
> 
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
My natural assumption is no.  If you turn on the charger, the solar
controller is probably just going to turn off or reduce output.  The only
thing to be concerned about is connecting or disconnecting the battery
while the solar panels are connected.  The load on/load off surge is
probably not good for the controller.   Many of them have a connection
sequence stated in the owners manual.  Usually its battery on first then
solar on.  Reverse the sequence to disconnect the controller.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On May 22, 2016 6:49 PM, "Charles Nelson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a
> solar panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my
> starting battery topped off between races without using the battery
> charger/AC although if I am on board, I will use the charger.
>
> My question for the list is will the
> Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the
> solar unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is
> protected against such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of
> this before it happens.
>
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> C 36 XL/kcb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Stus-List Solar power controllers

2016-05-22 Thread Charles Nelson via CnC-List
I am about to hook up a Morningstar Sun Guard SG-4 controller between a solar 
panel and my battery #1. My plan is to use the NC sun to keep my starting 
battery topped off between races without using the battery charger/AC although 
if I am on board, I will use the charger. 

My question for the list is will the 
Solar controller be damaged if I switch the battery charger on while the solar 
unit is still connected to the battery? My SWAG is that it is protected against 
such events with a diode but I prefer a confirmation of this before it happens.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb









Sent from my iPad

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