Stus-List Tsunamis

[Patrick Wesley]

Does anyone have sources for advice to be given to boaters by Emergency 
Managers if there is time to warn that a tsunami  is imminent? I think I 
remember a thread from a number of years ago. Thanks, Patrick Wesley, Victoria 
BC

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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Russ & Melody]

Tell them, "Put to sea."
You don't need to much depth, relatively speaking, under the keel to 
be away from tsunami danger. Just get out of the bay/harbour.


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1


At 07:43 PM 20/03/2013, you wrote:
Does anyone have sources for advice to be given to boaters by 
Emergency Managers if there is time to warn that a tsunami  is 
imminent? I think I remember a thread from a number of years ago. 
Thanks, Patrick Wesley, Victoria BC


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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Martin DeYoung]

Deep water is the best defense but when I took Calypso down the west coast of 
Vancouver Island I did wonder how much warning I would get from the VHF. (no 
cell coverage north of Tofino)

The Calypso crew and I discussed the plan if the water began running out of the 
anchorage.  We did not come up with anything better than head to sea ASAP.

On the inside of Vanc. Isl. and the rest of the Salish Sea a sizable earthquake 
may be the bigger risk.  If a 8+ strikes we could experience basin washing that 
could make a mess of most marinas.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle

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Subject: Stus-List Tsunamis

Does anyone have sources for advice to be given to boaters by Emergency 
Managers if there is time to warn that a tsunami  is imminent? I think I 
remember a thread from a number of years ago. Thanks, Patrick Wesley, Victoria 
BC

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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Marek Dziedzic]

Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text 
messages, I think) within seconds of a quake.

I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your 
Club or Marina can get it.

In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I 
don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually.

Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on 
its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier).

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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Ron Kaye]

Here's a question.  If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar 
fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be 
for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water? 

Ron

On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:

> Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or 
> text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake.
>  
> I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your 
> Club or Marina can get it.
>  
> In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I 
> don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually.
>  
> Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system 
> on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier).
>  
> Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Della Barba, Joe]

You and your boat would be relocated to someplace in mid-Pennsylvania. You 
would enjoy the scenic river and canal system that connects Pittsburgh to the 
other sailing hot spots like Morgantown WV.

Joe Della Barba

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Here's a question.  If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar 
fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be 
for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water?

Ron

On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic 
mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or text 
messages, I think) within seconds of a quake.

I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your 
Club or Marina can get it.

In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I 
don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually.

Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system on 
its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier).

Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[sam . c . salter]

You need to get out more! Sam :-) From: Ron KayeSent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:25 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List TsunamisHere's a question.  If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of water? RonOn Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:




Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. 
They send emails (or text messages, I think) within seconds of a 
quake.
 
I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I 
bet that at least your Club or Marina can get it.
 
In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part 
of my work, but I don't know how feasible is to subscribe 
individually.
 
Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a 
notification system on its own (fed from the same source, possibly 
available a bit easier).
 
Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Ron Kaye]

If you could stay in the crest it would be quite a ride. 

I would think it would break perhaps repeatedly.  

The essential question is how large of a wave could you safely ride out in 70' 
of water do that the sides were not steep enough to cause pitchpole? 

Ron

On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:34 PM, "Della Barba, Joe"  wrote:

> You and your boat would be relocated to someplace in mid-Pennsylvania. You 
> would enjoy the scenic river and canal system that connects Pittsburgh to the 
> other sailing hot spots like Morgantown WV.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
>  
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> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Tsunamis
>  
> Here's a question.  If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and 
> Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the 
> situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of 
> water? 
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:
> 
> Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or 
> text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake.
>  
> I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your 
> Club or Marina can get it.
>  
> In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I 
> don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually.
>  
> Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system 
> on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier).
>  
> Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Ron Kaye]

I know I do Sam. I'm working on it.  I have a hard time leaving the house cause 
I know a tsunami is just waiting for me.  

Ron

On Mar 22, 2013, at 5:35 PM, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:

> You need to get out more! 
> Sam :-)
> 
> From: Ron Kaye
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:25 PM
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> 
> Here's a question.  If one were on the bay say around Annapolis, and 
> Gibraltar fell into the Atlantic sending a 50M tsunami East, what would the 
> situation be for riding that out in the middle of the bay in say 70' of 
> water? 
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Marek Dziedzic  wrote:
> 
>> Subscribe to NRCan or USGS earthquake warning system. They send emails (or 
>> text messages, I think) within seconds of a quake.
>>  
>> I am not sure how (publicly) available this is, but I bet that at least your 
>> Club or Marina can get it.
>>  
>> In order for full disclosure, I get these alerts as part of my work, but I 
>> don't know how feasible is to subscribe individually.
>>  
>> Another thing is that I bet that the BC government has a notification system 
>> on its own (fed from the same source, possibly available a bit easier).
>>  
>> Marek (in Ottawa)
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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Frederick G Street]

Even in deep water, I'd be worried about the refraction/reflection effects in 
an enclosed body of water like the Chesapeake; the weird wave patterns could be 
quite severe.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 22, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Ron Kaye  wrote:

> If you could stay in the crest it would be quite a ride. 
> 
> I would think it would break perhaps repeatedly.  
> 
> The essential question is how large of a wave could you safely ride out in 
> 70' of water do that the sides were not steep enough to cause pitchpole?

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Re: Stus-List Tsunamis

[Wally Bryant]

I only have one Tsunami warning experience, in 2011 (the Japan 
disaster.)   People were talking on the VHF non-stop, and most of the 
chatter was hysterical, redundant, irrelevant, or totally wrong, but it 
was still worth listening to.  At the time I was in a location where I 
could get cellular internet, so monitored NOAA and Googled constantly.  
In the Pacific, Hawaii is a great early warning center for seismic 
events from Asia.  When California falls into the sea I might not have 
enough warning, but that's about as likely as Gibraltar...


The funny thing is that I came close to disaster twice that day.

The first time was when I was the only boat left at anchor, and some 
idiot nearly hit me while I was drinking my coffee as he came within 3 
feet of my boat and shouted "There's a tsunami coming, don't you know?  
Head for Deep Water!"   I think I said something like "Yes, it hit 
Hawaii 3 hours ago.  It will arrive here in another 4 hours, and I'm 
monitoring the situation.  And by the way, I'd appreciate it if you turn 
your helm to starboard about 30 degrees so that your stern doesn't smash 
me amidships during your current port maneuver."  I'm paraphrasing that 
last part... I might have said something like "Get the F away from me..."


The second time was when I decided to move.  Not because of danger, but 
because a fishing trawler was *so* ticked off at all the recreational 
boaters motoring full speed for 1000 fathoms and creating havoc with the 
fishing lanes, that the captain pulled into the anchorage and set the 
hook directly upwind of me.  He didn't have to -- there was plenty of 
room -- but I was the only recreational boater left.  The smell of dead 
fish and bird excrement was overpowering.  So I figured I'd move, and 
since it was only an hour away from 'the event' I decided to stand off 
outside the anchorage in 300 feet of water and do some fishing.  Believe 
it or not, a grey whale surfaced directly under my boat with its entire 
body between the keel and rudder, and I looked down into the blowhole 
and got a really good whiff of some really bad breath.


At which point I went back into the anchorage, set the hook in 40 feet, 
and had a cocktail while waiting for the tsunami.  It was a nice wave, 
but the most interesting thing was the way the currents moved through 
that bay before and after the wave.  I did a quite a few 360s in 
conflicting directions.  Whee.


Wal



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