Re: Stus-List Update on jammed transmission lever

2014-05-04 Thread Don Newman via CnC-List
I had to pull them out the bottom. I could just reach the clip to remove the 
retaining pin. 

Putting the new ones back in was another story. I had to place them so that one 
was horizontal and the other through long bends lined up with it. This was the 
only way I could reach to replace the pin. 

I then dropped two lines from the top and attached one to each so that I could 
pull the cables to the proper side. I then gently worked the ends back into the 
base so I could pull them up with the lines. Make sure that the pull lines are 
routed aft and clear of the steering cables. I didn't loosen the steering 
cables at all because I wanted to make sure they remained clear of the control 
cables.  

I don't know how much clearance you have below the pedestal but I had very 
little due to the solid base where the steering cables pulleys are mounted. 

Good luck this job pushed my patience limit. 

Don Newman
CC 44

 On May 3, 2014, at 22:21, Eric Frank via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
   Your collective advice was to replace the shift cable (and throttle cable 
 as well) so I have proceeded to try to do that but have run into another 
 problem.  Following the directions on the Edson website, I delved into the 
 pedestal, moved the throttle cable to the port side, unscrewed the cable 
 clamp from the pedestal housing and then tried to pull the cables up to gain 
 access to the clamp.  As the directions suggested, this was difficult to do, 
 as the clamp gets jammed against the steering chain.  Cranking the wheel from 
 port to starboard helped, as they suggested, but not enough.  So the next 
 advice was to loosen the steering cable (what a PITA!) so I could lift the 
 chain over the sprocket teeth and forward up to the wheel brake.  That helped 
 also, but still not enough.  I think the trouble is that the cable clamp is 
 made for 3 cables, not two, so the part without a cable in it still gets 
 jammed under part of the pedestal casting, and I cannot get it out.
   How to proceed? Advice needed!  One thought is to unbolt the pedestal from 
 the cockpit floor and tip it over so I can pull the cables with the clamp out 
 the bottom of the pedestal.  Of course the chain/cables will need to be a lot 
 looser than they are now, and I hesitate to disconnect the cables from the 
 quadrant completely.  Maybe as they are already loose (from loosening the 
 nuts on the eyebolt), I could pop the cable off one of the sheaves that the 
 cable runs over, and perhaps that would loosen the cable sufficiently that I 
 could tip the pedestal over.  But before I try something like that, it would 
 be great if I could get some further input from the list.  Would hate to do 
 something that made a big repair necessary.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Eric
 CC 35 MkII
 Mattapoisett, MA
 
 Did that - clear result.  The lever at the pedestal is still jammed - cable 
 won't move.  But the transmission is easy to shift even by hand, so it's 
 fine.  That seems a good (i.e. easier and cheaper-to-fix) result.  Opened 
 the pedestal, removed the compass, and the shifting mechanism looks fine 
 from the top view.  So seems likely that the cable is rusted, perhaps right 
 down near where it exits the sheathing and connects to the tranny lever.  
 Would moving the cable around with pliers right where it exits the sheath, 
 perhaps squirting with penetrating oil help?  Other suggestions?
 
 Eric
 
 You have the first step:  disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the 
 tx lever moves. 
 
 Rich
 
 On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank efran...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Just replaced the PYI dripless stuffing box on Cat's Paw, a 35 CC Mk 
 II.  With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and 
 just replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went 
 very smoothly and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins 
 diesel yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral. 
  I noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured 
 the engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on 
 the prop shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think 
 there was any strain on the transmission.  Would like advice about where 
 to look for the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the 
 transmission itself? Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the 
 transmission and see if I can then move the shift lever?  Advice from the 
 list soon would be greatly appreciated.  Launch date is slated for this 
 week, but if the prop shaft has to be disconnected from the tranny to fix 
 things, launch needs to be delayed.
 
 Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.
 
 Eric
 
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Stus-List Update on jammed transmission lever

2014-05-03 Thread Eric Frank via CnC-List
  Your collective advice was to replace the shift cable (and throttle cable as 
well) so I have proceeded to try to do that but have run into another problem.  
Following the directions on the Edson website, I delved into the pedestal, 
moved the throttle cable to the port side, unscrewed the cable clamp from the 
pedestal housing and then tried to pull the cables up to gain access to the 
clamp.  As the directions suggested, this was difficult to do, as the clamp 
gets jammed against the steering chain.  Cranking the wheel from port to 
starboard helped, as they suggested, but not enough.  So the next advice was to 
loosen the steering cable (what a PITA!) so I could lift the chain over the 
sprocket teeth and forward up to the wheel brake.  That helped also, but still 
not enough.  I think the trouble is that the cable clamp is made for 3 cables, 
not two, so the part without a cable in it still gets jammed under part of the 
pedestal casting, and I cannot get it out.
  How to proceed? Advice needed!  One thought is to unbolt the pedestal from 
the cockpit floor and tip it over so I can pull the cables with the clamp out 
the bottom of the pedestal.  Of course the chain/cables will need to be a lot 
looser than they are now, and I hesitate to disconnect the cables from the 
quadrant completely.  Maybe as they are already loose (from loosening the nuts 
on the eyebolt), I could pop the cable off one of the sheaves that the cable 
runs over, and perhaps that would loosen the cable sufficiently that I could 
tip the pedestal over.  But before I try something like that, it would be great 
if I could get some further input from the list.  Would hate to do something 
that made a big repair necessary.

Thanks!

Eric
CC 35 MkII
Mattapoisett, MA

 Did that - clear result.  The lever at the pedestal is still jammed - cable 
 won't move.  But the transmission is easy to shift even by hand, so it's 
 fine.  That seems a good (i.e. easier and cheaper-to-fix) result.  Opened the 
 pedestal, removed the compass, and the shifting mechanism looks fine from the 
 top view.  So seems likely that the cable is rusted, perhaps right down near 
 where it exits the sheathing and connects to the tranny lever.  Would moving 
 the cable around with pliers right where it exits the sheath, perhaps 
 squirting with penetrating oil help?  Other suggestions?
 
 Eric
 
 You have the first step:  disconnect the cable at the lever and see if the 
 tx lever moves. 
 
 Rich
 
 On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:36, Eric Frank efran...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Just replaced the PYI dripless stuffing box on Cat's Paw, a 35 CC Mk II. 
  With lots of help from the list last fall, got the old one out and just 
 replaced it with a new one last weekend. The re-installation went very 
 smoothly and I thought all was well.  But when I fired up the Perkins 
 diesel yesterday (still on the hard), the shift lever is stuck in neutral.  
 I noticed that was true last weekend just after the install, but figured 
 the engine needed to be running to get it in gear. No banging needed on the 
 prop shaft to drive the shaft back into the coupling, so I don't think 
 there was any strain on the transmission.  Would like advice about where to 
 look for the jam. In the shift lever from the pedestal? In the transmission 
 itself? Maybe disconnect the shift cable from the transmission and see if I 
 can then move the shift lever?  Advice from the list soon would be greatly 
 appreciated.  Launch date is slated for this week, but if the prop shaft 
 has to be disconnected from the tranny to fix things, launch needs to be 
 delayed.
 
 Thanks for advice!  Don't know what to try.
 
 Eric

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