Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Thanks, Leslie On Tue, 8/11/15, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question To: "C&C List" Cc: "Josh Muckley" Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 11:28 AM Yes it should rotate. I think mine is held on with a cotter pin or a clip. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD Yanmar 3HM35F On Aug 11, 2015 2:25 PM, "Leslie Paal via CnC-List" wrote: The "kill" cable broke on my 2GM20, at the engine end. The cause (I think) was that as the arm moved the wire was flexing where it was clamped to the arm. My question: should that clamp (square block of metal with a hole for the wire and a screw to clamp) rotate in the arm. Mine does not. Can be because of corrosion, does not want to force it if it does not meant to rotate... Thanks, Leslie. Phoenix, C&C32 (1983) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Yes it should rotate. I think mine is held on with a cotter pin or a clip. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD Yanmar 3HM35F On Aug 11, 2015 2:25 PM, "Leslie Paal via CnC-List" wrote: > The "kill" cable broke on my 2GM20, at the engine end. The cause (I > think) was that as the arm moved the wire was flexing where it was clamped > to the arm. My question: should that clamp (square block of metal with a > hole for the wire and a screw to clamp) rotate in the arm. Mine does not. > Can be because of corrosion, does not want to force it if it does not meant > to rotate... > > Thanks, Leslie. > Phoenix, C&C32 (1983) > > > > ___ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Yanmar question
The "kill" cable broke on my 2GM20, at the engine end. The cause (I think) was that as the arm moved the wire was flexing where it was clamped to the arm. My question: should that clamp (square block of metal with a hole for the wire and a screw to clamp) rotate in the arm. Mine does not. Can be because of corrosion, does not want to force it if it does not meant to rotate... Thanks, Leslie. Phoenix, C&C32 (1983) ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Gravity ... its everywhere ! Tim From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:02 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jake might take you up on this. First need to get size of existing unit after I go swimming today! Everybody ready to laugh... Went to the boat to pull existing muffler out, check sizes of inlet and outlet (yes they are different) and look at the old muffler for signs of what is wrong. So loosened up hose clamps, had inlet hose from elbow already off. Fought with outlet connection for 10 min, then decided there is enough slack, I'll cut the hose just above the muffler connection. I lift the muffler and short piece of inlet hose still connected up and out of the engine compartment being careful not to spill the water out. Holding the hose only if start to pour the water out overboard. Muffler slips right off the hose and splash. I wasn't prepared for diving yesterday. Going over today with crab net attached to longer pole (about 8' of water), If not luck then on with the mask an fins. Ahh the finer moments in a boater's life. Should of drank like a pirate yesterday instead of just talking like one! From: captain_j...@cox.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It's a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I've run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what's worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don't recommend it. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com This e-mail (and attachment(s)) is confidential, proprietary, may be subject to copyright and legal privilege and no related rights are waived. If you are not the intended recipient or its agent, any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail or any of its content is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. All messages may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations and our policies to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and you are deemed to have accepted any risk if you communicate with us by e-mail. If received in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail (and any attachments) from any computer or any storage medium without printing a copy. Ce courriel (ainsi que ses pièces jointes) est confidentiel, exclusif, et peut faire l’objet de droit d’auteur et de privilège juridique; aucun droit connexe n’est exclu. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire visé ou son représentant, toute étude, diffusion, transmission ou copie de ce courriel en tout ou en partie, est strictement interdite et peut être illégale. Tous les messages peuvent être surveillés, selon les lois et règlements applicables et les politiques de protection de notre entreprise. Les courriels ne sont pas sécurisés et vous êtes réputés avoir accepté tous les risques qui y sont liés si vous choisissez de communiquer avec nous par ce moyen. Si vous avez reçu ce message par erreur, veuillez nous en aviser immédiatement et supprimer ce courriel (ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes) de tout ordinateur ou support de données sans en imprimer une copie. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Jake might take you up on this. First need to get size of existing unit after I go swimming today!Everybody ready to laugh... Went to the boat to pull existing muffler out, check sizes of inlet and outlet (yes they are different) and look at the old muffler for signs ofwhat is wrong. So loosened up hose clamps, had inlet hose from elbow already off. Fought with outlet connection for 10 min, then decided there is enough slack, I'll cut the hose just above the muffler connection. I lift the muffler and short piece of inlet hose still connected up and out of the engine compartment being careful not to spill the waterout. Holding the hose only if start to pour the water out overboard. Muffler slips right off the hose and splash. I wasn't prepared for diving yesterday. Going over today with crab net attached to longer pole (about 8' of water), If not luck then on with the mask an fins.Ahh the finer moments in a boater's life.Should of drank like a pirate yesterday instead of just talking like one! From: captain_j...@cox.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It’s a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I’ve run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what’s worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don’t recommend it. Jake Jake BrodersenC&C 35 Mk-III"Midnight MistressHampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power.Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material.Listers any experience with either?Thanks as always.JimGalaxy 34'Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
That's some wonderful weird wench! Hang on to her... Rich K On 2012-09-19, at 22:16, Martin DeYoung wrote: > Aye, me wench craves the sound and fury of me Cummins, but arrgh the Perkins > leaves ‘er cold. > > Lay me alongside an board ‘em in the (diesel) smoke… > > Martin > From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis C. > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:47 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > Probably sounds more like a 1998 Honda Civic with a varoom varoom exhaust and > a loud stereo. :) > > Arrgh!! And so ends National Talk Like A Pirate Day, September 19. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > From: Rich Knowles > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:22 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > Jake, does it have that GMC diesel sound? > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2012-09-19, at 19:32, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: > > Jim, > > I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last > the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. > It’s a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. > > I’ve run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, > but what’s worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don’t > recommend it. > > Jake > > > Jake Brodersen > C&C 35 Mk-III > "Midnight Mistress > Hampton VA > > > > From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On > Behalf Of jim aridas > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM > To: cnc-list > Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at > end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of > mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want > to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a > sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift > muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like > its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is > deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill > the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no > overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. > Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift > units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a > composite material. > Listers any experience with either? > Thanks as always. > Jim > Galaxy 34' > Brielle NJ > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Aye, me wench craves the sound and fury of me Cummins, but arrgh the Perkins leaves 'er cold. Lay me alongside an board 'em in the (diesel) smoke... Martin From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Probably sounds more like a 1998 Honda Civic with a varoom varoom exhaust and a loud stereo. :) Arrgh!! And so ends National Talk Like A Pirate Day, September 19. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Rich Knowles To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jake, does it have that GMC diesel sound? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-09-19, at 19:32, "Jake Brodersen" mailto:captain_j...@cox.net>> wrote: Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It's a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I've run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what's worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don't recommend it. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com<http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com<mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Probably sounds more like a 1998 Honda Civic with a varoom varoom exhaust and a loud stereo. :) Arrgh!! And so ends National Talk Like A Pirate Day, September 19. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Rich Knowles >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:22 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > >Jake, does it have that GMC diesel sound? > > >Rich Knowles >Indigo. LF38 >Halifax > >On 2012-09-19, at 19:32, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: > > >Jim, > >I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last >the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. >It’s a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. > >I’ve run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, >but what’s worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don’t >recommend it. > >Jake > > >Jake Brodersen >C&C 35 Mk-III >"Midnight Mistress >Hampton VA > > > >From:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On >Behalf Of jim aridas >Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM >To: cnc-list >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > >Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at >end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of >mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want >to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a >sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler >must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its >rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and >causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water >issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't >really notice lack of power. >Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift >units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite >material. >Listers any experience with either? >Thanks as always. >Jim >Galaxy 34' >Brielle NJ > > >___ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >___ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > >___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Rich, While I’m very fond of my GMC diesel, the boat sounds a little more like a Cummins than anything else. Not like that’s a bad thing though… Jake From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jake, does it have that GMC diesel sound? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-09-19, at 19:32, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It’s a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I’ve run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what’s worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don’t recommend it. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Jake, does it have that GMC diesel sound? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2012-09-19, at 19:32, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It’s a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I’ve run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what’s worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don’t recommend it. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Jim, I went with a very small Vernalift muffler. It is fiberglass and should last the life of the boat. It is quiet, but has a nice warm note to it as well. It's a mellow sound that is pleasing to my ear. I've run my engine without the muffler attached. It may smoke a little bit, but what's worse is the salt spray that it throws everywhere. I don't recommend it. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question + Veralift
Jim, Do you have the dimensions of the Veralift unit that fits your engine/space? I have a used one from Calypso that that I changed out to re-rout the exhaust hoses and looks to be in good condition. If you want it I will ship it out at no cost. Martin mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com<mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:08 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
My Vernalift literally "exploded" several years ago - Vernalift custom made one that was an exact match of the original - saved having re-work the hoses etc. I guess they must have had the patterns from the original Jonathan Indigo - 35MKIII _ From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question I installed a Vetus muffler a couple of years back on Mojito when the original one started leaking. It turned out there wasn't much left of it when I had a chance to look. It took me a while to get one with the right inlet / outlet hose diameters. They were not the same, so be careful what you choose if you go in that direction. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Mike Brannon wrote: Joel, I had a similar problem a couple of years ago and it turned out to be the exhaust hose. In the rear of a C&C 36 they routed the hose up and over the knee for the backstay and over the years the bend was such that the inner hose had collapsed.It took a while to find this. Just a thought, Mike VIRGINIA LEE C&C 36 CB Virginia Beach, VA -Original Message- From: jim aridas To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:14 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Joel, Wouldn't I see leakage(water) at the clamp? Hoses are dry. Are you thinking its sucking in air? Jim Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:11:53 -0400 From: joel.aron...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/> CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Joel, I had a similar problem a couple of years ago and it turned out to be the exhaust hose. In the rear of a C&C 36 they routed the hose up and over the knee for the backstay and over the years the bend was such that the inner hose had collapsed.It took a while to find this. Just a thought, Mike VIRGINIA LEE C&C 36 CB Virginia Beach, VA -Original Message- From: jim aridas To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:14 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Joel, Wouldn't I see leakage(water) at the clamp? Hoses are dry. Are you thinking its sucking in air? Jim Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:11:53 -0400 From: joel.aron...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___This List is provided by the C&C Photo Albumhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.comcnc-l...@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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We use the fiber optic camera to inspect home heating system heat exchangers for cracks.Actually they are pretty cheap, I've seen them for about $125 - $150. very handy for many hard to see places, inside walls, etc. I run an HVAC contracting business (when I'm not fixing the boat He he)Jim Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:22:24 -0400 From: joel.aron...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question If the break is on the top side of the hose exhaust could be leaking into the bilge. If your hose is original you might want to replace it now while one end is off. BTW, fiber optic camera? Very cool! Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, jim aridas wrote: Joel,Wouldn't I see leakage(water) at the clamp? Hoses are dry. Are you thinking its sucking in air?Jim Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:11:53 -0400 From: joel.aron...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material.Listers any experience with either?Thanks as always. JimGalaxy 34'Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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If the break is on the top side of the hose exhaust could be leaking into the bilge. If your hose is original you might want to replace it now while one end is off. BTW, fiber optic camera? Very cool! Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, jim aridas wrote: > Joel, > Wouldn't I see leakage(water) at the clamp? Hoses are dry. Are you > thinking its sucking in air? > Jim > > -- > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:11:53 -0400 > From: joel.aron...@gmail.com > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > Jim, > > You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the > clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if > you can crawl in there). > > Joel > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: > > Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, > flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked > inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I > didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured > it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've > decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some > spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside > baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a > potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine > runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. > Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift > units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a > composite material. > Listers any experience with either? > Thanks as always. > Jim > Galaxy 34' > Brielle NJ > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > ___ This List is provided by > the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Joel,Wouldn't I see leakage(water) at the clamp? Hoses are dry. Are you thinking its sucking in air?Jim Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:11:53 -0400 From: joel.aron...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material.Listers any experience with either?Thanks as always. JimGalaxy 34'Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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The composite material works best and last much longer. In a message dated 9/19/2012 9:11:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joel.aron...@gmail.com writes: Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas <_jaridas5@msn.com_ (mailto:jarid...@msn.com) > wrote: Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material. Listers any experience with either? Thanks as always. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album _http://www.cncphotoalbum.com_ (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/) _CnC-List@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com) -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Jim, You might check the exhaust hose carefully. A small break around the clamp might give the same symptoms, and I bet it is a cheaper repair (if you can crawl in there). Joel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:08 AM, jim aridas wrote: > Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, > flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked > inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I > didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured > it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've > decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some > spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside > baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a > potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine > runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power. > Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift > units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a > composite material. > Listers any experience with either? > Thanks as always. > Jim > Galaxy 34' > Brielle NJ > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Follow up to my loud hissing sounding exhaust. Raw water system good, flow at end of heat exchanger going into the mixing elbow strong. Looked inside of mixing elbow, no blockage(aided by flexible fiber optic scope). I didn't want to run the engine with exhaust hose off of the elbow. figured it would make a sooty kind of mess in the engine compartment. So I've decided the lift muffler must be the culprit. Outside jacket showing some spots that look like its rusting thru from the inside out. Perhaps inside baffling is deteriorating and causing blockage? In any event looks like a potential fill the boat with water issue. As I stated earlier the engine runs ok, no overheat condition, didn't really notice lack of power.Any other thoughts? Looks like Defender has some good prices on veralift units. They also have a Vetus model twice the price looks like its a composite material.Listers any experience with either?Thanks as always.JimGalaxy 34'Brielle NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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"FORE" From: f...@postaudio.net Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:55:01 -0500 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Probably came off one of those cruise ships with a practice tee on the stern... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: On a 1980 C&C 36 with a Yanmar engine I experienced a cooling water blockage underway (bound for Seattle from the San Juan Islands). After checking the usual suspects and not finding anything amiss I focused on the raw water intake. When I pulled the raw water inlet to strainer hose a golf tee shot out of the fitting. A frick’n golf tee got sucked up and stuck fat end down to effectively block the flow. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Probably came off one of those cruise ships with a practice tee on the stern... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote: > On a 1980 C&C 36 with a Yanmar engine I experienced a cooling water blockage > underway (bound for Seattle from the San Juan Islands). After checking the > usual suspects and not finding anything amiss I focused on the raw water > intake. When I pulled the raw water inlet to strainer hose a golf tee shot > out of the fitting. A frick’n golf tee got sucked up and stuck fat end down > to effectively block the flow. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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On a 1980 C&C 36 with a Yanmar engine I experienced a cooling water blockage underway (bound for Seattle from the San Juan Islands). After checking the usual suspects and not finding anything amiss I focused on the raw water intake. When I pulled the raw water inlet to strainer hose a golf tee shot out of the fitting. A frick'n golf tee got sucked up and stuck fat end down to effectively block the flow. Martin From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:53 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Earlier someone recommended a thorough check for clogs in the system first. I would second that advice. Thought I had an elbow or water injector problem once but it turned out to be a partial sea water clog that was entirely confined to the hose barb going in to the sea water strainer. Couldn't see it. Took off the hoses, took off the bowl, all seemed ok. Thermostat was stuck, so I ordered a new one. The top part of the strainer was secured to the boat, and I didn't take it off until much later, which made the problem relatively easy to see. Partial flows can be deceptive. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:31 PM To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Humm, knew we would get at least one witty response. Thank you all for the info. Figured it sounded like constricted flow. Gonna get the elbow and nipple replacements first. Then pull it apart and replace them. Agree no sense putting back the old ones. thanks again, Jim Galaxy 34' ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I usually start by pulling the discharge water hose at the elbow. If there's good flow there, it's the elbow. If not, move further upstream. Dennis C. > > From: Steve Thomas >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:53 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > > >Earlier someone recommended a thorough check for clogs in the system first. >I would second that advice. >Thought I had an elbow or water injector problem once but it turned out to be a partial sea water clog that was entirely confined to the hose barb going in to the sea water strainer. >Couldn't see it. Took off the hoses, took off the bowl, all seemed ok. >Thermostat was stuck, so I ordered a new one. >The top part of the strainer was secured to the boat, and I didn't take it off until much later, which made the problem relatively easy to see. >Partial flows can be deceptive. > >Steve Thomas >C&C27 MKIII > > >-Original Message- >From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On >Behalf Of jim aridas >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:31 PM >To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > >Humm, knew we would get at least one witty response. > > >Thank you all for the info. Figured it sounded like constricted flow. Gonna get the elbow and nipple replacements first. Then pull it apart >and replace them. Agree no sense putting back the old ones. >thanks again, >Jim >Galaxy 34' > > > > >____ > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:11:19 -0700 >From: capt...@yahoo.com >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > >Jake wrote: > > > > "I always check the nipples first!" > > > >I'm a leg man myself. > > >Dennis C. > > > >> >> From: Jake Brodersen >>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:06 PM >>Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question >> >> >> >>Jim, >> >>There are ample opportunities for problems in the raw water cooling system. >> The easiest to check is the nipple on the exhaust elbow. If it was >>installed with some never seize lube, it should be easy to remove and >>check. They do tend to gum up with salt deposits from time to time. I >>always check the nipples first! >> >>The next most likely suspect would be a clogged exhaust elbow. I have >>removed mine in the past and cleaned it out with a coat hanger. No pretty, >>but it may buy you a year or two. Replacement is the best course of action, >>especially since you have it off already. >> >>I removed my heat exchanger and had it hot tanked a number of years ago. >>It wasn’t in bad shape, but now I feel better about it. >> >>Good raw water flow will keep your exhaust quiet. That’s how I can tell my >>system needs attention, by the change in sound. I switched from the SS >>stock muffler to a smaller fiberglass muffler a couple years ago. It sounds >>great. Not loud, but nice an mellow. >> >>Jake >> >>Jake Brodersen >>C&C 35 Mk-III >>"Midnight Mistress >>Hampton VA >> >> >___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com >___ >This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > >___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Earlier someone recommended a thorough check for clogs in the system first. I would second that advice. Thought I had an elbow or water injector problem once but it turned out to be a partial sea water clog that was entirely confined to the hose barb going in to the sea water strainer. Couldn't see it. Took off the hoses, took off the bowl, all seemed ok. Thermostat was stuck, so I ordered a new one. The top part of the strainer was secured to the boat, and I didn't take it off until much later, which made the problem relatively easy to see. Partial flows can be deceptive. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:31 PM To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Humm, knew we would get at least one witty response. Thank you all for the info. Figured it sounded like constricted flow. Gonna get the elbow and nipple replacements first. Then pull it apart and replace them. Agree no sense putting back the old ones. thanks again, Jim Galaxy 34' Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:11:19 -0700 From: capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jake wrote: "I always check the nipples first!" I'm a leg man myself. Dennis C. -- From: Jake Brodersen To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, There are ample opportunities for problems in the raw water cooling system. The easiest to check is the nipple on the exhaust elbow. If it was installed with some never seize lube, it should be easy to remove and check. They do tend to gum up with salt deposits from time to time. I always check the nipples first! The next most likely suspect would be a clogged exhaust elbow. I have removed mine in the past and cleaned it out with a coat hanger. No pretty, but it may buy you a year or two. Replacement is the best course of action, especially since you have it off already. I removed my heat exchanger and had it hot tanked a number of years ago. It wasn’t in bad shape, but now I feel better about it. Good raw water flow will keep your exhaust quiet. That’s how I can tell my system needs attention, by the change in sound. I switched from the SS stock muffler to a smaller fiberglass muffler a couple years ago. It sounds great. Not loud, but nice an mellow. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Humm, knew we would get at least one witty response. Thank you all for the info. Figured it sounded like constricted flow. Gonna get the elbow and nipple replacements first. Then pull it apartand replace them. Agree no sense putting back the old ones.thanks again,JimGalaxy 34' Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:11:19 -0700 From: capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jake wrote: "I always check the nipples first!" I'm a leg man myself. Dennis C. From: Jake Brodersen To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Jim, There are ample opportunities for problems in the raw water cooling system. The easiest to check is the nipple on the exhaust elbow. If it was installed with some never seize lube, it should be easy to remove and check. They do tend to gum up with salt deposits from time to time. I always check the nipples first! The next most likely suspect would be a clogged exhaust elbow. I have removed mine in the past and cleaned it out with a coat hanger. No pretty, but it may buy you a year or two. Replacement is the best course of action, especially since you have it off already. I removed my heat exchanger and had it hot tanked a number of years ago. It wasn’t in bad shape, but now I feel better about it. Good raw water flow will keep your exhaust quiet. That’s how I can tell my system needs attention, by the change in sound. I switched from the SS stock muffler to a smaller fiberglass muffler a couple years ago. It sounds great. Not loud, but nice an mellow. Jake Jake BrodersenC&C 35 Mk-III"Midnight MistressHampton VA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Jake wrote: "I always check the nipples first!" I'm a leg man myself. Dennis C. > > From: Jake Brodersen >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:06 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question > > >Jim, > >There are ample opportunities for problems in the raw water cooling system. >The easiest to check is the nipple on the exhaust elbow. If it was installed >with some never seize lube, it should be easy to remove and check. They do >tend to gum up with salt deposits from time to time. I always check the >nipples first! > >The next most likely suspect would be a clogged exhaust elbow. I have removed >mine in the past and cleaned it out with a coat hanger. No pretty, but it may >buy you a year or two. Replacement is the best course of action, especially >since you have it off already. > >I removed my heat exchanger and had it hot tanked a number of years ago. It >wasn’t in bad shape, but now I feel better about it. > >Good raw water flow will keep your exhaust quiet. That’s how I can tell my >system needs attention, by the change in sound. I switched from the SS stock >muffler to a smaller fiberglass muffler a couple years ago. It sounds great. >Not loud, but nice an mellow. > >Jake > >Jake Brodersen >C&C 35 Mk-III >"Midnight Mistress >Hampton VA > >___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Jim, There are ample opportunities for problems in the raw water cooling system. The easiest to check is the nipple on the exhaust elbow. If it was installed with some never seize lube, it should be easy to remove and check. They do tend to gum up with salt deposits from time to time. I always check the nipples first! The next most likely suspect would be a clogged exhaust elbow. I have removed mine in the past and cleaned it out with a coat hanger. No pretty, but it may buy you a year or two. Replacement is the best course of action, especially since you have it off already. I removed my heat exchanger and had it hot tanked a number of years ago. It wasn't in bad shape, but now I feel better about it. Good raw water flow will keep your exhaust quiet. That's how I can tell my system needs attention, by the change in sound. I switched from the SS stock muffler to a smaller fiberglass muffler a couple years ago. It sounds great. Not loud, but nice an mellow. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III "Midnight Mistress Hampton VA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:33 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear. No overheating or temp alarm. Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home. (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail. Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle, NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I had similar sound when I began to overheat at high RPMs. Turned out to be my heat exchanger clogged with scale. I am now cruising at 2800 RPM/7.5 kts after cleaning the tubes. Good luck, Mike Fair Padanaram, MA From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Blair Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:49 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question I had that sound when there was plugging with a ½ cup of assorted seaweed - it lodged in the right angle connection before the strainer. Am planning to get rid of the right angle fitting so this will be less likely to happen again. Could see the obstruction with the strainer open, but had to disconnect the hose to get it all clear. Might be worth having a look if your set up is similar. I have a 3GM30F in a 1990 34+ - raw water thru hull behind engine. Cheers From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: September-10-12 6:33 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear. No overheating or temp alarm. Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home. (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail. Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle, NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I had that sound when there was plugging with a ½ cup of assorted seaweed it lodged in the right angle connection before the strainer. Am planning to get rid of the right angle fitting so this will be less likely to happen again. Could see the obstruction with the strainer open, but had to disconnect the hose to get it all clear. Might be worth having a look if your set up is similar. I have a 3GM30F in a 1990 34+ - raw water thru hull behind engine. Cheers From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of jim aridas Sent: September-10-12 6:33 AM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar question Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear. No overheating or temp alarm. Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home. (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail. Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle, NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Sent mine to a radiator shop and even they failed to remove all of the exhaust deposits. Save some time, trouble & money and just replace with newand don't go cheap, replace the stainless steel coupler as well. In a message dated 9/10/2012 9:39:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joel.aron...@gmail.com writes: I've read that the elbow can be removed and soaked in muriatic acid to dissolve the clog. Has anyone tried it? If you remove the hose leading into the elbow and measure the water flow and then measure it (or guesstimate) at the exhaust and there is a difference, it is the elbow or the nipple into the elbow. You might get lucky and only need to remove the nipple. Joel On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:34 AM, <_HONEYSAIL@aol.com_ (mailto:honeys...@aol.com) > wrote: Exhaust mixing elbow should be replaced, mine did the same in August and the EME was the culprit.. In a message dated 9/10/2012 9:32:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _jaridas5@msn.com_ (mailto:jarid...@msn.com) writes: Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear. No overheating or temp alarm. Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home. (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail. Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle, NJ = ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album _http://www.cncphotoalbum.com_ (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/) _CnC-List@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com) ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album _http://www.cncphotoalbum.com_ (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/) _CnC-List@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com) -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
I've read that the elbow can be removed and soaked in muriatic acid to dissolve the clog. Has anyone tried it? If you remove the hose leading into the elbow and measure the water flow and then measure it (or guesstimate) at the exhaust and there is a difference, it is the elbow or the nipple into the elbow. You might get lucky and only need to remove the nipple. Joel On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:34 AM, wrote: > ** > Exhaust mixing elbow should be replaced, mine did the same in August and > the EME was the culprit.. > > In a message dated 9/10/2012 9:32:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jarid...@msn.com writes: > > Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust > started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few > weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed > at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more > sound reflected back? > But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. > Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at > the thru hull, clear. > No overheating or temp alarm. > Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it > was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the > whole way home. > (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) > I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on > the present one. > Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? > > Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots > peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people > on the rail. > Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. > > Jim > Galaxy 34' > Brielle, NJ > = > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Exhaust mixing elbow should be replaced, mine did the same in August and the EME was the culprit.. In a message dated 9/10/2012 9:32:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jarid...@msn.com writes: Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear. No overheating or temp alarm. Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home. (The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am) I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail. Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. Jim Galaxy 34' Brielle, NJ = ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar question
Engine question. Have a Yanmar 3GMF20. Noticed this weekend the exhaust started sounding "like its hissing or more air with the water". Last few weeks it sounded a little different, but thought that since my slip changed at the yacht club I back up close to a bulk head and possibly just more sound reflected back? But after a 2 1/2 hour motor to a race this weekend it sounded worse. Checked the strainer, clear. Jumped in the water, checked for blockage at the thru hull, clear.No overheating or temp alarm.Ran the boat back to my club after the race. Didn't need much engine it was a down wind run in 15 +, launched the kite, smiled and laughed the whole way home.(The dark and stormies didn't hurt either, till sunday am)I'll pull the impeller today and throw in a new one, its the 2nd season on the present one. Is this the sound when the exhaust elbow is carbon'd up ? Oh and btw have to brag. Won the race, blowing steady 25 with some shots peaked to 32. Wild fun ride, reefed main up wind, heavy air 130%, 7 people on the rail.Down wind the hull only lets you go so fast. JimGalaxy 34'Brielle, NJ ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
