Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
You might have to call Defender. It is not obvious to me what activates it. My light is stored upside-down and turns on rightside-up. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com On Nov 26, 2016 5:24 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Thanks Jake.I agree that the light would be an important addition but I think maybe it should be attached near the buoy, not the pole. This way the swimmer would be attracted to the flotation. I shudder to to think about finding somebody in the dark, even on a decent night, I often sail shorthanded with very novice crew or my kids. Lake Ontario can have a steep ugly and confused chop, and can be quite rough at times. Had an interesting chat with Carolyn Burgess at the Rigging Shoppe (in Toronto) on this today. Years ago, her parents ended up in Lake Ontario one night when their C sank beneath them. They were tethered to a MOB pole and had both a ring buoy (mandatory in Canada) and horseshoe buoy (ditto USA) She had photos taken from the search plane and showed how the humans were not easily seen amongst the whitecaps, but the pole was. She also said that the horseshoe buoy was the lifesaver, because her mom was able to "wear" it but the ring did not work well for her dad, who was too big. She advised that I was too big for the ring... :-( She too thought the strobe was a very good idea but struggled to come up with an appropriately compact solution, that would be activated by inversion or immersion (but not rain or spray) I found this online, - LED, compact, SOLAS approved, and reasonably priced - but it is unclear to me how the light could be turned on. http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|135|2290109|2290110 <http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1%7C135%7C2290109%7C2290110=1282889> =1282889 Anyone know? Dave -- Forwarded message -- From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net <mailto:captain_j...@cox.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:21:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Dave, Those all sound like worthy upgrades to an existing pole. It should look like new when you’re done. A small water-activated strobe is a good choice. If you could attach it part way up the pole, it would be great for visibility. If it’s too heavy, it may affect the ability of the pole to stay vertical. It all depends on the type of strobe (weight). The carabiner should have the whistle attached with a short leash. A small float might make them easier to find in the water. I’m thinking a key chain float might work. Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 08:52 To: C Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com <mailto:syerd...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
I have these on all my emergency floatation devices. They are water activated. I tied them on with orange curly laces so that they are free to move and float around. They are not SOLAS or USCG approved but they are waterproof and water activated and cheap. They take 3 lithium coin batteries. I've had them for 3 seasons and they all look and work like new. Occasionally I have to replace some of the batteries. I don't recommend using them on your personal PFD since just the slightest skin contact or moisture from sea spray with activate them. It is a blinding strobe while sailing a night. Shoreline Marine Flashing Safety Whistle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JGQLKBM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_qQHoybEDEKSWM http://www.curlylaces.com/shoelaces.html Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Nov 26, 2016 5:24 PM, "Dave S via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Thanks Jake.I agree that the light would be an important addition but I think maybe it should be attached near the buoy, not the pole. This way the swimmer would be attracted to the flotation. I shudder to to think about finding somebody in the dark, even on a decent night, I often sail shorthanded with very novice crew or my kids. Lake Ontario can have a steep ugly and confused chop, and can be quite rough at times. Had an interesting chat with Carolyn Burgess at the Rigging Shoppe (in Toronto) on this today. Years ago, her parents ended up in Lake Ontario one night when their C sank beneath them. They were tethered to a MOB pole and had both a ring buoy (mandatory in Canada) and horseshoe buoy (ditto USA) She had photos taken from the search plane and showed how the humans were not easily seen amongst the whitecaps, but the pole was. She also said that the horseshoe buoy was the lifesaver, because her mom was able to "wear" it but the ring did not work well for her dad, who was too big. She advised that I was too big for the ring... :-( She too thought the strobe was a very good idea but struggled to come up with an appropriately compact solution, that would be activated by inversion or immersion (but not rain or spray) I found this online, - LED, compact, SOLAS approved, and reasonably priced - but it is unclear to me how the light could be turned on. http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|135|2290109|2290110=1282889 Anyone know? Dave -- Forwarded message -- From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:21:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Dave, Those all sound like worthy upgrades to an existing pole. It should look like new when you’re done. A small water-activated strobe is a good choice. If you could attach it part way up the pole, it would be great for visibility. If it’s too heavy, it may affect the ability of the pole to stay vertical. It all depends on the type of strobe (weight). The carabiner should have the whistle attached with a short leash. A small float might make them easier to find in the water. I’m thinking a key chain float might work. Jake *Jake Brodersen* *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”* *Hampton VA* *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave S via CnC-List *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 08:52 *To:* C Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc:* Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> *Subject:* Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
Thanks Jake.I agree that the light would be an important addition but I think maybe it should be attached near the buoy, not the pole. This way the swimmer would be attracted to the flotation. I shudder to to think about finding somebody in the dark, even on a decent night, I often sail shorthanded with very novice crew or my kids. Lake Ontario can have a steep ugly and confused chop, and can be quite rough at times. Had an interesting chat with Carolyn Burgess at the Rigging Shoppe (in Toronto) on this today. Years ago, her parents ended up in Lake Ontario one night when their C sank beneath them. They were tethered to a MOB pole and had both a ring buoy (mandatory in Canada) and horseshoe buoy (ditto USA) She had photos taken from the search plane and showed how the humans were not easily seen amongst the whitecaps, but the pole was. She also said that the horseshoe buoy was the lifesaver, because her mom was able to "wear" it but the ring did not work well for her dad, who was too big. She advised that I was too big for the ring... :-( She too thought the strobe was a very good idea but struggled to come up with an appropriately compact solution, that would be activated by inversion or immersion (but not rain or spray) I found this online, - LED, compact, SOLAS approved, and reasonably priced - but it is unclear to me how the light could be turned on. http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|135|2290109|2290110=1282889 Anyone know? Dave -- Forwarded message -- From: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 10:21:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Dave, Those all sound like worthy upgrades to an existing pole. It should look like new when you’re done. A small water-activated strobe is a good choice. If you could attach it part way up the pole, it would be great for visibility. If it’s too heavy, it may affect the ability of the pole to stay vertical. It all depends on the type of strobe (weight). The carabiner should have the whistle attached with a short leash. A small float might make them easier to find in the water. I’m thinking a key chain float might work. Jake *Jake Brodersen* *C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress”* *Hampton VA* *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave S via CnC-List *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 08:52 *To:* C Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> *Cc:* Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> *Subject:* Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
I have had a strobe hooked to my MOB gear since the 1970s. I have never had to use any of it, but getting that in the water ASAP at night, even if the MOB isn’t able to swim to it, provides an invaluable data point to base a search pattern on. My strobe hangs from the lifeline and is attached to the rest of the gear by a line. It is similar to this: http://www.westmarine.com/buy/acr-electronics--automatic-floating-strobe-light--195786?recordNum=7 They work with a mercury switch and active when floating upright. If you drop off enough big waves and have momentary negative G forces, the strobe will charge and go off every now and again. No harm, but it can startle the helmsman :) Also look into getting a Lifesling for recovery operations. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Dave, Those all sound like worthy upgrades to an existing pole. It should look like new when you’re done. A small water-activated strobe is a good choice. If you could attach it part way up the pole, it would be great for visibility. If it’s too heavy, it may affect the ability of the pole to stay vertical. It all depends on the type of strobe (weight). The carabiner should have the whistle attached with a short leash. A small float might make them easier to find in the water. I’m thinking a key chain float might work. Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 08:52 To: C Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com <mailto:syerd...@gmail.com> > Subject: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
Dave, Those all sound like worthy upgrades to an existing pole. It should look like new when you’re done. A small water-activated strobe is a good choice. If you could attach it part way up the pole, it would be great for visibility. If it’s too heavy, it may affect the ability of the pole to stay vertical. It all depends on the type of strobe (weight). The carabiner should have the whistle attached with a short leash. A small float might make them easier to find in the water. I’m thinking a key chain float might work. Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dave S via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 08:52 To: C Stus List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List man overboard pole refurb? Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List man overboard pole refurb?
Working through some refurb chores and am rehabilitating my Scotty MOB pole, fresh paint, new flag, replace or paint some of the UV damaged plastic on the float, add reflective tape. It lives in a tube mounted on the pushpit stanchion and is connected to a smallish ring buoy by around 75' of floating line. Am contemplating a strobe and whistle an possibly a carabiner so a tired swimmer can more easily tether to the entire assembly. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Dave 33-2 ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
