Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Have you looked at the sheet load calculators?
Harken has one: http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096 
L-36 has a more sophisticated one: http://l-36.com/wind_load.php
Samson has a formula:
(windspeed in mph)^2 x 0.004 x (sail area in square feet) = Sheet Load at Clew 
in pounds

I would have a hard time imagining that you have a working load higher than the 
2800 lb that is listed for a SN40. (btw. Garhauer uses the number in their 
series that is somewhat related to the boat length, so the 30-series is for 
boats 30 ft in length, 40 series – for 40 ft boats, etc.).

Marek



From: Richard Walter via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 09:27
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Richard Walter 
Subject: Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

Thanks to all for the great advice!

After 30+ years, perhaps it is time for replacements?


Can anyone comment on the working load capacity needed for jib sheets for a 
36-foot boat? We're not racing. I'm fond of Garhauer gear ($$!).

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[schiller via CnC-List]

I bought a pair of 40SN at Strictly Sail, Chicago.  They are nice pieces 
of equipment.  They are my consistent use snatch blocks.  My Redwing 35 
doesn't have cars like the 36 so my Jib sheets go to the snatch blocks 
on the inboard track.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
White Lake, Michigan

On 8/5/2016 9:26 AM, Richard Walter wrote:

Thanks to all for the great advice!

After 30+ years, perhaps it is time for replacements?

Can anyone comment on the working load capacity needed for jib sheets 
for a 36-foot boat? We're not racing. I'm fond of Garhauer gear ($$!).
Garhauer Marine Hardware -15595735 







Garhauer Marine Hardware -15595735

Garhauer is now standard equipment from many U.S. boat builders 
including Catalina Yachts the largest boat build...





Thank you,
Richard


On Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:59 PM, schiller via CnC-List 
 wrote:



After I disassembly mine (7 original with the boat), I put the sheaves 
and rollers in my ultrasonic reloading cleaner at 160 degrees F and 
ran it for 30 minutes.  All cleaned up good.  Put them all back 
together with a good amount of winch grease.  I expect they will be 
good for another 25 years.  I found mine collection to be a mix of 
plain bearings and roller bearings plus the two new Garhauer Marine 
Torlon Ball Bearing snatch blocks.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan

On 8/4/2016 4:08 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
So far, you've gotten good advice.  They are Merriman blocks. I've 
had good luck taking snatch blocks apart, cleaning and lubing them.  
Do they have Allen head screws?


Soak them in suggested solutions, dissaemble, clean and lube.  You 
may need to clean up the pin and hole with some ultra fine wet sanding.


As an alternative, look on eBay. There's usually a bunch for sale.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Richard Walter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Greetings,

INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets.
The bodies are solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp
marking on the strap.

One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new
pins and possibly a new sheive.

Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available,
and where replacement parts may be obtained?

Thank you,
Richard

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Richard Walter via CnC-List]

Thanks to all for the great advice!

After 30+ years, perhaps it is time for replacements?

Can anyone comment on the working load capacity needed for jib sheets for a 
36-foot boat? We're not racing. I'm fond of Garhauer gear ($$!).Garhauer Marine 
Hardware -15595735
  
|  
|   |  
Garhauer Marine Hardware -15595735
 Garhauer is now standard equipment from many U.S. boat builders including 
Catalina Yachts the largest boat build...  |  |

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Thank you,Richard
 

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:59 PM, schiller via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

  After I disassembly mine (7 original with the boat), I put the sheaves and 
rollers in my ultrasonic reloading cleaner at 160 degrees F and ran it for 30 
minutes.  All cleaned up good.  Put them all back together with a good amount 
of winch grease.  I expect they will be good for another 25 years.  I found 
mine collection to be a mix of plain bearings and roller bearings plus the two 
new Garhauer Marine Torlon Ball Bearing snatch blocks.
 
 Neil Schiller
 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
 (C&C 35, Mark I)
 "Corsair"
 White Lake, Michigan
 
 On 8/4/2016 4:08 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
  
  So far, you've gotten good advice.  They are Merriman blocks.  I've had 
good luck taking snatch blocks apart, cleaning and lubing them.  Do they have 
Allen head screws?
 
  Soak them in suggested solutions, dissaemble, clean and lube.  You may need 
to clean up the pin and hole with some ultra fine wet sanding.
 
  As an alternative, look on eBay.  There's usually a bunch for sale.
 
  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

 
   
 On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Richard Walter via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
   Greetings, 
  INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies 
are solid black  rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap. 
  One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and 
possibly a new sheive. 
  Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and where 
replacement parts may be  obtained?
 
 Thank you, Richard

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[schiller via CnC-List]

After I disassembly mine (7 original with the boat), I put the sheaves 
and rollers in my ultrasonic reloading cleaner at 160 degrees F and ran 
it for 30 minutes.  All cleaned up good.  Put them all back together 
with a good amount of winch grease.  I expect they will be good for 
another 25 years.  I found mine collection to be a mix of plain bearings 
and roller bearings plus the two new Garhauer Marine Torlon Ball Bearing 
snatch blocks.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan

On 8/4/2016 4:08 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
So far, you've gotten good advice.  They are Merriman blocks.  I've 
had good luck taking snatch blocks apart, cleaning and lubing them.  
Do they have Allen head screws?


Soak them in suggested solutions, dissaemble, clean and lube.  You may 
need to clean up the pin and hole with some ultra fine wet sanding.


As an alternative, look on eBay.  There's usually a bunch for sale.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Richard Walter via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Greetings,

INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets.
The bodies are solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp
marking on the strap.

One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new
pins and possibly a new sheive.

Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available,
and where replacement parts may be obtained?

Thank you,
Richard

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Stus-List snatch block details?

[Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List]

If you are unable to free up the pin on the merriman snatch blocks, there are 
usually a few on eBay, just make sure of the size and style. Price ranges from 
$30 to $150 for the larger ones. I've added 2 to my collection.

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

So far, you've gotten good advice.  They are Merriman blocks.  I've had
good luck taking snatch blocks apart, cleaning and lubing them.  Do they
have Allen head screws?

Soak them in suggested solutions, dissaemble, clean and lube.  You may need
to clean up the pin and hole with some ultra fine wet sanding.

As an alternative, look on eBay.  There's usually a bunch for sale.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Richard Walter via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The
> bodies are solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the
> strap.
>
> One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and
> possibly a new sheive.
>
> Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and
> where replacement parts may be obtained?
>
> Thank you,
> Richard
>
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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Richard,

 

Try soaking it immersed in white vinegar for a few days.

After a day see if you can get the sheave to turn.

Once it breaks free it will clean up fairly quickly.

Same thing for the snap shackle end.

It’s slow but it does work.

 

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

 

 

 

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Sent: August-04-16 15:34
To: C&C List
Cc: Richard Walter
Subject: Stus-List snatch block details?

 

Greetings,

 

INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies are 
solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap.

 

One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and 
possibly a new sheive.

 

Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and where 
replacement parts may be obtained?

Thank you,

Richard

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Have also had success freeing up those old style snatch blocks. I think giving 
a good soaking in warm water to dissolve salt helped too.   For replacements, 
Garhauer would be my first choice especially if boat bucks are tight!!

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Aug 4, 2016, at 14:44, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> Those are Merriman Blocks but unfortunately, they’ve been out of business 
> since the late 1980s.  I have found that using a penetrating lubricant such 
> as PB Blaster, I’ve been able to free up seized sheaves on old blocks, and 
> then added a liberal dose of McLube to the sheave pin area on a regular basis 
> to keep things spinning.
> I know that Barton and Ronstan both make reasonably priced snatch blocks in a 
> range of sizes should yours not be salvageable.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 LF 35
> Padanaram, MA
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Walter via CnC-List
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:34 PM
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Richard Walter 
> Subject: Stus-List snatch block details?
>  
> Greetings,
>  
> INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies 
> are solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap.
>  
> One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and 
> possibly a new sheive.
>  
> Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and where 
> replacement parts may be obtained?
> 
> Thank you,
> Richard
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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Richard Walter via CnC-List]

Yup, they're Merrimen blocks! To get the frozen shieve apart, it required 
surgery. Any ideas if replacement shieves, pins, rollers, etc. can be obtained 
(even if they're not OEM)? 
 

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{}#yiv2717431309 Richard,Those are Merriman Blocks but unfortunately, they’ve 
been out of business since the late 1980s.  I have found that using a 
penetrating lubricant such as PB Blaster, I’ve been able to free up seized 
sheaves on old blocks, and then added a liberal dose of McLube to the sheave 
pin area on a regular basis to keep things spinning.I know that Barton and 
Ronstan both make reasonably priced snatch blocks in a range of sizes should 
yours not be salvageable.Chuck GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 LF 35Padanaram, MA  
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Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:34 PM
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Cc: Richard Walter 
Subject: Stus-List snatch block details?  Greetings,  INDIGO has a set of 
heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies are solid black rummer 
and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap.  One of the block's shieves 
is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and possibly a new sheive.  Any ideas 
who may have made this block, are they still available, and where replacement 
parts may be obtained?

Thank you,Richard
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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List]

Richard,

Those are Merriman Blocks but unfortunately, they’ve been out of business since 
the late 1980s.  I have found that using a penetrating lubricant such as PB 
Blaster, I’ve been able to free up seized sheaves on old blocks, and then added 
a liberal dose of McLube to the sheave pin area on a regular basis to keep 
things spinning.

I know that Barton and Ronstan both make reasonably priced snatch blocks in a 
range of sizes should yours not be salvageable.

Chuck Gilchrest

S/V Half Magic

1983 LF 35

Padanaram, MA

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
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Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 2:34 PM
To: C&C List 
Cc: Richard Walter 
Subject: Stus-List snatch block details?

 

Greetings,

 

INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies are 
solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap.

 

One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and 
possibly a new sheive.

 

Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and where 
replacement parts may be obtained?

Thank you,

Richard

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Re: Stus-List snatch block details?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Wilcox Crittenden? (sp?)  Don't think they are still made.  Does the pin
have a phillips head on one side?  If so, remove and clean.  Otherwise, PB
Blaster for a couple days, put a line through it, tension the line and try
to get the sheave to move.  Use an old grippy line, not dyneema.

Joel

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Richard Walter via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The
> bodies are solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the
> strap.
>
> One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and
> possibly a new sheive.
>
> Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and
> where replacement parts may be obtained?
>
> Thank you,
> Richard
>
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Stus-List snatch block details?

[Richard Walter via CnC-List]

Greetings,
INDIGO has a set of heavy-duty snatch blocks for the jib sheets. The bodies are 
solid black rummer and there is a trident stamp marking on the strap.
One of the block's shieves is seized; looks like it'll need new pins and 
possibly a new sheive.
Any ideas who may have made this block, are they still available, and where 
replacement parts may be obtained?

Thank you,Richard
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