[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Hi Why dont you head over to cobbler@github and open an issue? Since systemd on ubuntu 16.04 appears identical to that on el7, network manager is also very similar and you have the choice of configuring networking the old debian way or via network manager. What i am trying to say is the network manager method may be more prevalent in the future and the cobbler devs might already have a plan for this for future releases. -- Alastair Munro -Original Message- From: William Muriithi To: cobbler mailing list Sent: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:15 Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler Johan Matt responded to you a while ago with a solution. Essentially, he suggested you add some post install configurations on your kickstart configuration. I still think its may take more than that as you will want to use "cobbler system" which extend the basic kickstart configurations. If I was in your shoes though, I wouldn't do this on cobbler. It fit better on ansible, so I would just set a role for teaming. If you are using ansible or puppet, consider looking for a solution from that angle Regards William On 19 October 2016 at 12:40, wrote: > Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction. > > my second question in now answered. > > My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler. > > What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in > the next release. > (bonding in rhel7 is deprecated ) > ___ > cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Johan Matt responded to you a while ago with a solution. Essentially, he suggested you add some post install configurations on your kickstart configuration. I still think its may take more than that as you will want to use "cobbler system" which extend the basic kickstart configurations. If I was in your shoes though, I wouldn't do this on cobbler. It fit better on ansible, so I would just set a role for teaming. If you are using ansible or puppet, consider looking for a solution from that angle Regards William On 19 October 2016 at 12:40, wrote: > Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction. > > my second question in now answered. > > My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler. > > What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in > the next release. > (bonding in rhel7 is deprecated ) > ___ > cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Sorry for my late reaction and thank you all for all your reaction. my second question in now answered. My first question was will there be teamd support in cobbler. What i mean is will there be teamd bonding config option in cobbler web in the next release. (bonding in rhel7 is deprecated ) ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
There are multiple reasons why teaming is better than bonding and fiber. I am also making an attempt to get Johan an answer instead of conjecture. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to have cobbler setup teaming via config files with a trigger during post-install... https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html#sec-Creating_a_Network_Team_Using_ifcfg_Files https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/CobblerTriggers On Oct 15, 2016 4:19 AM, wrote: > > > > :) good answer. > > If Matt needs higher throughput has he considered a fibre card? Or if its disk IO san might be better over nas? Just a thought. > > Personally i would just bond it and wait until someone complains about performance. Can always manually reconfigure it afterwards. :) > > -- > Alastair Munro > > -Original Message- > From: bishop > Cc: cobbler mailing list > Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 2:08 > Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler > > More user-space frailty so we can add more layers? > > I'm not sure linux is keeping back at Usable, T.B.H. ;-) > > Either way, it seems the creation and config of a shiny new config file > to do most of what we already can do as well as LACP, is something we > can accomplish in %post. > > 2c. > - .. > > > alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: > > Ok fair enough. > > > > I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those > > kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04 <1604> . Maybe there > > is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you > > dont need to do os installs? > > > > -- > > Alastair Munro > > > ___ > cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org > > ___ > cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
:) good answer. If Matt needs higher throughput has he considered a fibre card? Or if its disk IO san might be better over nas? Just a thought. Personally i would just bond it and wait until someone complains about performance. Can always manually reconfigure it afterwards. :) -- Alastair Munro -Original Message- From: bishop Cc: cobbler mailing list Sent: Sat, 15 Oct 2016 2:08 Subject: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler More user-space frailty so we can add more layers? I'm not sure linux is keeping back at Usable, T.B.H. ;-) Either way, it seems the creation and config of a shiny new config file to do most of what we already can do as well as LACP, is something we can accomplish in %post. 2c. - .. alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: > Ok fair enough. > > I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those > kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04 . Maybe there > is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you > dont need to do os installs? > > -- > Alastair Munro > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
More user-space frailty so we can add more layers? I'm not sure linux is keeping back at Usable, T.B.H. ;-) Either way, it seems the creation and config of a shiny new config file to do most of what we already can do as well as LACP, is something we can accomplish in %post. 2c. - .. alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: > Ok fair enough. > > I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those > kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04 . Maybe there > is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you > dont need to do os installs? > > -- > Alastair Munro > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Ok fair enough. I am not sure cobbler is keeping up with linux tbh. For example those kernel options need to be used with ubuntu 16.04. Maybe there is a future roadmap for cobbler? Or maybe the future is cloud where you dont need to do os installs? -- Alastair Munro -Original Message- From: Matt Luettgen To: alast...@alastair-munro.com Cc: cobbler mailing list Sent: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 18:14 Subject: Re: [cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler teamd has better speeds, options, etc... http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/06/23/team-driver On Oct 14, 2016 12:00 PM, wrote: > Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason > why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding. > > A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it): > > http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html > > I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit > more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options. > > net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 > > > On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: > >> Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was >> designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the >> login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically >> using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded. >> Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static >> network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION >> USING SYSCONFIG FILES. >> >> Note this section: >> >> 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER >> >> In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is >> provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and >> configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and >> connections up and active when they are available. The traditional >> ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8, >> “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information. >> >> So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring >> networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir. >> >> I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler? >> >> I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using >> network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older >> method? >> >> Alastair >> >> On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote: >> >>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp >>> rise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_ >>> Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 >>>>> machines with teamd config on cobbler. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a >>>> target machine? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Orion Poplawski >>>> Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1] >>>> NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2] >>>> 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com >>>> Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com >>>> ___ >>>> cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> -- >>> [1] tel:303-415-9701%20x222 >>> [2] tel:303-415-9702 >>> ___ >>> cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >>> >> ___ >> cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >> > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
teamd has better speeds, options, etc... http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/06/23/team-driver On Oct 14, 2016 12:00 PM, wrote: > Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason > why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding. > > A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it): > > http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html > > I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit > more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options. > > net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 > > > On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: > >> Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was >> designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the >> login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically >> using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded. >> Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static >> network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION >> USING SYSCONFIG FILES. >> >> Note this section: >> >> 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER >> >> In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is >> provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and >> configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and >> connections up and active when they are available. The traditional >> ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8, >> “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information. >> >> So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring >> networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir. >> >> I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler? >> >> I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using >> network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older >> method? >> >> Alastair >> >> On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote: >> >>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp >>> rise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_ >>> Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 > machines with teamd config on cobbler. > I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a target machine? -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1] NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2] 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> -- >>> [1] tel:303-415-9701%20x222 >>> [2] tel:303-415-9702 >>> ___ >>> cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >>> >> ___ >> cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org >> > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Meant to add, this just sounds like bonding mode 5? Is there are reason why you don't want to use this? Cobbler supports bonding. A quick google finds this (saves me trying to explain it): http://www.unixarena.com/2013/06/how-to-configure-bondingteaming-on.html I tend to force the old device naming on el7 (like eth0), as its a bit more predictable for cobbler. Use these as kernel options. net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 On 2016-10-14 17:50, alast...@alastair-munro.com wrote: Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded. Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION USING SYSCONFIG FILES. Note this section: 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and connections up and active when they are available. The traditional ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8, “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information. So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir. I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler? I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older method? Alastair On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" wrote: On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 machines with teamd config on cobbler. I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a target machine? -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1] NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2] 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org Links: -- [1] tel:303-415-9701%20x222 [2] tel:303-415-9702 ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
Network Manager is managing networking via a service.Originally it was designed for GUI logins where you would login as a user as part of the login, network manager would be run to setup the network (typically using dhcp). Now it seems Network Manager is much more expanded. Refering to the link below, section 1.9 refers back to the static network config, which cobbler implements: 1.9. NETWORK CONFIGURATION USING SYSCONFIG FILES. Note this section: 1.3. INTRODUCTION TO NETWORKMANAGER In Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7, the default networking service is provided by NetworkManager, which is a dynamic network control and configuration daemon that attempts to keep network devices and connections up and active when they are available. The traditional ifcfg type configuration files are still supported. See Section 1.8, “NetworkManager and the Network Scripts” for more information. So I think cobbler uses the older/static way of configuring networking, using the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts config dir. I am not sure what is planned for future versions of cobbler? I suspect you may need to include post kickstart snippet for using network manager, or figure how to do the teaming using the older method? Alastair On 2016-10-14 16:01, Matt Luettgen wrote: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" wrote: On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 machines with teamd config on cobbler. I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a target machine? -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 [1] NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 [2] 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org Links: -- [1] tel:303-415-9701%20x222 [2] tel:303-415-9702 ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Configure_a_Network_Team_Using-the_Command_Line.html On Oct 14, 2016 9:39 AM, "Orion Poplawski" wrote: > On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 >> machines with teamd config on cobbler. >> > > I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a target > machine? > > -- > Orion Poplawski > Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 > NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 > 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com > Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com > ___ > cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org > ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org
[cobbler] Re: teamd support in cobbler
On 10/14/2016 01:31 AM, johanwint...@gmail.com wrote: Will there be teamd support in cobbler? or how can i deploy rhel7 machines with teamd config on cobbler. I know nothing about teamd. What needs to get configured on a target machine? -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com ___ cobbler mailing list -- cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to cobbler-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org