[cobirds] Re: Broader question about access to Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge, Adams County

[birding...@gmail.com]

Just the visitors center is closed for those times.  The arsenal itself is 
usually open sunrise to sunset (except a couple of holidays  - possibly 
Christmas and Thanksgiving, but I'm not sure).

John Breitsch
Denver

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-6 tedfl...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey, all. Thanks to Charlie and Patrick and Candice for the tips on access 
> to Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge.
>
> Hannah Floyd and I were all ready to go out there this Monday morning, 
> Oct. 19, when our phones informed us that the refuge is closed Mondays and 
> Tuesdays; and not open till 9am the other days of the week. What, legally 
> and practically, does that mean? Is it in fact not possible to enter the 
> refuge except Wed.-Sun. starting at 9am? Not trying to self-present as some 
> rules-defying scofflaw. But I know that "closed" has very different 
> interpretations at different federal properties.
>
> On a personal note, I'm a Johnny-come-lately on the Arsenal scene. In 
> 2019, Texas super-naturalist John Karges kidnapped me and forced me to take 
> him to the Arsenal. First-time visit for me! John was extremely skeptical 
> that I'd never been there. What can I say?--I have seen the light. I love 
> that place so much.
>
> Ted Floyd
> Lafayette, Boulder County

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[cobirds] Broader question about access to Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge, Adams County

[tedfl...@gmail.com]

Hey, all. Thanks to Charlie and Patrick and Candice for the tips on access 
to Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge.

Hannah Floyd and I were all ready to go out there this Monday morning, Oct. 
19, when our phones informed us that the refuge is closed Mondays and 
Tuesdays; and not open till 9am the other days of the week. What, legally 
and practically, does that mean? Is it in fact not possible to enter the 
refuge except Wed.-Sun. starting at 9am? Not trying to self-present as some 
rules-defying scofflaw. But I know that "closed" has very different 
interpretations at different federal properties.

On a personal note, I'm a Johnny-come-lately on the Arsenal scene. In 2019, 
Texas super-naturalist John Karges kidnapped me and forced me to take him 
to the Arsenal. First-time visit for me! John was extremely skeptical that 
I'd never been there. What can I say?--I have seen the light. I love that 
place so much.

Ted Floyd
Lafayette, Boulder County

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[cobirds] Ruddy Ground-Dove in Norwood

[Nathan Pieplow]

Hi all,

I just got off the phone with George Steele. He saw the Ruddy Ground-Dove
at his feeders today at 8:00 AM, 10:00 AM, noon, and 2:30 PM. George is OK
with having birders come to look for this bird, as long as they keep their
distance from it (and from each other, for COVID purposes).

George lives at 1350 S. Lincoln in the southwest corner of Norwood. His
house is on the northwest corner of Lincoln and San Miguel. He also owns
the empty lot to the east across Lincoln, including the old green trailer
with an old truck parked in front, and that lot is where he recommends that
people park off the road to watch for the dove. There is a wood-and-cement
wall along the edge of George's yard, and sometimes the bird drops down
behind it to feed, but George has put some rocks outside the wall at the
north end of the sumac hedge, and he is putting some seed out among the
rocks. The dove visited that seed outside the wall at least once today.

When the dove visits his yard, it often spends time in the elm tree before
and after feeding. When it leaves his yard it flies off to the north.

Good luck to anybody who chases this remarkable first state record, and be
safe.

Nathan Pieplow
Boulder

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[cobirds] Re: First Creek access?

[Candice Johnson]

Today we noticed that the Wildlife Drive at the Arsenal was gated shut, so 
we guess that it is probably due to plague. No signage, of course. By the 
way, about 3 months ago our car window was broken while we parked at First 
Creek lot on 56th Avenue, although there was nothing to steal. We have not 
been back since then. We did see a police car driving up Buckley Rd. while 
we were hiking that day,so someone probably reported the broken window 
before we returned to the car. Candice Johnson,Denver

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-6, charles...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> The Buckley Rd and 56th Ave access is closed due to plague in the adjacent 
> prairie dog colony.  How else are folks accessing the First Creek path?  I 
> drove around a few neighborhoods but didn't see anything that seemed like 
> an official or legal access point.
>
> thanks
> Charlie Chase
> Denver 
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Re: [cobirds] First Creek access?

[Patrick O'Driscoll]

Charlie, it's a longer walk back to where you want to be, but if you drive
56th Avenue east from the closed parking lot and cross Tower Road, the next
major intersection ahead (stoplight 3 blocks east) is Dunkirk Street. From
there you can drive to and park at First Creek Park, a tiny city park patch
(kids-outdoors-discovery-zone) west of Dunkirk (the street where the First
Creek-Green Valley Ranch hotspot is centered).
To get there:
Turn right onto Dunkirk From 56th and go south to 53rd (just after crossing
south over First Creek). Turn right, driving about 2-3 blocks west until
the road curves left (and becomes Elmendorf Way). The park is on your right.
Park on the street and walk north through the little park along the
sidewalk/path (or meander through the discovery zone habitat).
You'll come out into open fields and new houses on the north side of the
creek. Continue to follow the paved path left/west along heavily treed
First Creek, and a couple of city blocks ahead, you'll cross through a
tunnel underneath Tower Road (still westbound) and enter the eastern edge
of First Creek @ DEN Open Space.
The paved path takes you west through the open space, roughly 1 mile-plus,
to Buckley Road.
I don't know where the limits of the plague closure are, but the main
prairie dog town near the 56th Avenue parking lot is well south of where
your path meets Buckley Road -- which is also where you can cross west into
the Arsenal on the First Creek Trail . . . that is, assuming the closure
doesn't into the refuge as well.

Good birding,

Patrick O'Driscoll
Denver



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charlesacha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Buckley Rd and 56th Ave access is closed due to plague in the adjacent
> prairie dog colony.  How else are folks accessing the First Creek path?  I
> drove around a few neighborhoods but didn't see anything that seemed like
> an official or legal access point.
>
> thanks
> Charlie Chase
> Denver
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[cobirds] White-eyed Vireo at Highline Canal nest Rampart Ramge Road, Douglas Co

[David Suddjian]

Karen Strong and I just saw a White-eyed Vireo along the Highline Canal about 
100 yards west or “upstream” of Rampart Range Rd. It was remaining low in 
vegetation and seen on either side of the trail. A juv Harris’s Sparrow was in 
the same area. 

David Suddjian
Littleton CO

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Re: [cobirds] Sedge Wren

[elena]

Thank you, Lauren; it probably bears repeating regularly, since one, people 
don’t “get” it the first time, and two, new people are (hopefully, it’s a good 
thing) regularly joining the birding world, that our ethics as birders require 
us to put the birds’ safety and health first.  NO exceptions. Someone can state 
it better than I can, but please, do not EVER disturb birds, especially 
migrants, especially rare ones who are out of their usual habitat and likely 
struggling to survive.   

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Lauren Burke  wrote:
> 
> I should also say that I did not speak up. Left that out!
> 
> Lauren
> 
> Lauren Burke
> It's a bird thing, it just is!
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Lauren Burke  wrote:
>> 
>> The Sedge Wren is being seen in a place that is walking distance from my 
>> home, so I went to try my luck. The wren was seen around 1:45 by a group of 
>> five birders including me.  I got a nice five seconds or so before he dove 
>> for cover. 
>> 
>> I know the only reason I got to see the bird was because of the behavior of 
>> the other folks that were there when I got there-but I found the behavior 
>> itself appalling. While the initial flush of the bird was happenstance, 
>> there was a concerted effort to purposefully flush him once he/she was 
>> spotted. I tried to stay back aways from the spot but kept having folks step 
>> in front of me. A couple folks with cameras were very intent on getting a 
>> shot. A gentleman that arrived moments after I saw the bird got to see it 
>> and take a picture or two-but left abruptly after one of the other birders 
>> played the call on their phone. 
>> 
>> Like I said-I’m delighted I got to see this life bird for a few moments, but 
>> can’t help wonder how stressful it is for him with people stomping around 
>> his cover, poking sticks and such. I probably wouldn’t have seen him 
>> otherwise-but I really was surprised to see folks actively working to flush 
>> the bird. 
>> 
>> Lauren
>> 
>> Lauren Burke
>> It's a bird thing, it just is!
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [cobirds] Sedge Wren

[Lauren Burke]

I should also say that I did not speak up. Left that out!

Lauren

Lauren Burke
It's a bird thing, it just is!
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Lauren Burke  wrote:
> 
> The Sedge Wren is being seen in a place that is walking distance from my 
> home, so I went to try my luck. The wren was seen around 1:45 by a group of 
> five birders including me.  I got a nice five seconds or so before he dove 
> for cover. 
> 
> I know the only reason I got to see the bird was because of the behavior of 
> the other folks that were there when I got there-but I found the behavior 
> itself appalling. While the initial flush of the bird was happenstance, there 
> was a concerted effort to purposefully flush him once he/she was spotted. I 
> tried to stay back aways from the spot but kept having folks step in front of 
> me. A couple folks with cameras were very intent on getting a shot. A 
> gentleman that arrived moments after I saw the bird got to see it and take a 
> picture or two-but left abruptly after one of the other birders played the 
> call on their phone. 
> 
> Like I said-I’m delighted I got to see this life bird for a few moments, but 
> can’t help wonder how stressful it is for him with people stomping around his 
> cover, poking sticks and such. I probably wouldn’t have seen him 
> otherwise-but I really was surprised to see folks actively working to flush 
> the bird. 
> 
> Lauren
> 
> Lauren Burke
> It's a bird thing, it just is!
> Sent from my iPhone
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[cobirds] Sedge Wren

[Lauren Burke]

The Sedge Wren is being seen in a place that is walking distance from my home, 
so I went to try my luck. The wren was seen around 1:45 by a group of five 
birders including me.  I got a nice five seconds or so before he dove for 
cover. 

I know the only reason I got to see the bird was because of the behavior of the 
other folks that were there when I got there-but I found the behavior itself 
appalling. While the initial flush of the bird was happenstance, there was a 
concerted effort to purposefully flush him once he/she was spotted. I tried to 
stay back aways from the spot but kept having folks step in front of me. A 
couple folks with cameras were very intent on getting a shot. A gentleman that 
arrived moments after I saw the bird got to see it and take a picture or 
two-but left abruptly after one of the other birders played the call on their 
phone. 

Like I said-I’m delighted I got to see this life bird for a few moments, but 
can’t help wonder how stressful it is for him with people stomping around his 
cover, poking sticks and such. I probably wouldn’t have seen him otherwise-but 
I really was surprised to see folks actively working to flush the bird. 

Lauren

Lauren Burke
It's a bird thing, it just is!
Sent from my iPhone

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[cobirds] Snow Goose and Merlin/Weld

['The "Nunn Guy"' via Colorado Birds]

Hi all

Snow Goose (2) at Crom Lake cornfields. Merlin along Weld CR 102 east of 
37. Galeton Pond continues to host Long-billed Dowitcher and Greater 
Yellowlegs-with a Wilson's Snipe hanging out, too. Windsor Reservoir had 
throngs of gulls on eastern shore near the new overlook area as well as 
hundreds on west shoreline. Loloff Reservoir had Long-billed Dowitcher, 
Baird's Sandpiper and 37 Great-tailed Grackle. Cozzens Lake had flock of 
35+ White-crowned Sparrow.

Thanks, Gary Lefko, Nunn
http://www.friendsofthepawneegrassland.org
https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/birds-and-more-of-the-pawnee-national-grassland

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Re: [cobirds] Fallout of White-throated Sparrows and Hermit Thrushes, Eastern Boulder County, Oct. 18

[Bryan Guarente]

*Why did we see an influx of birds on this date?*
It looks like the frontal passage is the culprit for these birds showing up
in CO.  Had a nice cold frontal passage that led to our low-clouds,
drizzle, increased humidity, and subdued winds (great for fire
suppression).

Green circle on map is Waneka Lake, Boulder County.  The timing of this map
is 6am on Sunday October 18th.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2020/10/18/1200Z/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-105.19,43.51,1704/loc=-105.113,39.993

*Why White-throated Sparrows (WTSP) and Hermit Thrushes (HETH)?*
The maybe more interesting question is why WTSP and HETH?

*WTSP Breeding Range: *
https://ebird.org/map/whtspa?neg=true=177.70969904467137=-17.73544803981251=41.47923029467137=80.19231910329214=true=false=Z=6-7=6=7=all=1900=2020

*HETH Breeding Range: *
https://ebird.org/map/herthr?neg=true=177.70969904467137=-17.73544803981251=41.47923029467137=80.19231910329214=true=false=Z=6-7=6=7=all=1900=2020

Based on the wind origin point from the previous map, it would make some
sense that any birds that ended up in CO from this weather pattern would
have come from MT.  But maybe a better bet would be to go back in time to
when these birds would have originally taken off from the origin point.
This usually starts to happen on the night before right around dusk.  Dusk
the night before was ~6pm October 17th.  So here is the map (with Waneka
Lake at the green circle) that would help us answer that question:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#2020/10/18/Z/wind/isobaric/850hPa/orthographic=-105.26,48.86,1704/loc=-105.113,39.993

If you backtrack the winds from Waneka Lake to their origin, you get
something much more consistent with WTSP or HETH breeding ranges.  We end
up around Great Slave Lake

in
the Northwest Territories.  Anywhere along that backtracked streamline
would be ripe for WTSP or HETH departure from the breeding grounds (I know
it isn't breeding season anymore, it was an easier reference point
though).  It also makes better sense from a bar chart perspective to get
WTSP or HETH instead of something like Blackpoll Warbler, which shares the
same origin point, but has already likely finished its migration through
Colorado.

Fun to play with all this logic.  Hope it comes across understandably to
most of you.  If there are any questions you would like to pose to me for
clarification, I am always open for discussion on this.  Happy to be
involved and educate on the topic.

The next forecasted frontal passage is due for Tuesday at around 6pm
(depending on your location in CO), but it will be weak and poorly timed
for bird migrations.  Expect some birds to leave on the north winds on
Tuesday evening, but I am doubting much replacement of birds in CO from
behind that front.  The convergence looks better from this front in IA/IL.

Thanks for the thought experiment.
Bryan

Bryan Guarente
Meteorologist/Instructional Designer
UCAR/The COMET Program
Boulder, CO


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wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:39:29 PM UTC-6 pato... wrote:
>
>>
>> This morning, Sunday Oct. 18, I had a first eBird record of a
>> White-throated Sparrow in the four Denver City Park hotspots outside of the
>> Denver Zoo.
>> It was in a loose flock of sparrows, juncos and chickadees that flew over
>> the zoo fence, so it was actually in both places.
>> And BTW, YOU had the last previous WTSP sighting in the zoo back in
>> February 2016.
>>
>
> On the occasion of Super Bowl 50, no less!
>
> Protip: The best time to visit the zoo is when the home team is in the
> Super Bowl. The staff felt so bad for us, they gave us free rein of the
> entire facility. It was an unforgettable experience, with some pretty
> amazing birds and wildlife:
>
> https://blog.aba.org/2016/03/birding-at-the-zoo.html
>
> Ted Floyd
> Lafayette, Boulder County
>
> P. s. Another protip: Might have to wait a few more years before the home
> team is in the Super Bowl...
>
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[cobirds] First Creek access?

[charles...@gmail.com]

The Buckley Rd and 56th Ave access is closed due to plague in the adjacent 
prairie dog colony.  How else are folks accessing the First Creek path?  I 
drove around a few neighborhoods but didn't see anything that seemed like 
an official or legal access point.

thanks
Charlie Chase
Denver 

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Re: [cobirds] Re: SEDGE WREN Broomfield County

[Patrick O'Driscoll]

Sedge Wren continues to skulk and show itself ever so briefly every 10 mins
or so the past hour for 8-10 patient birders at the fallen trees (with
black folding chair location marker).

Patrick O’Driscoll
Denver

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 1:02 PM Laura Steadman 
wrote:

> The sedge wren was still present near the fallen trees as of noon today.
> It started chipping a bit before it appeared for us, stayed low, and was
> quite skulky. Cool bird!
>
> Laura Steadman
> Boulder
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 5:03 PM Donna Stumpp 
> wrote:
>
>> The bird is continuing as of 4pm this afternoon. About 6 of us waited
>> quietly for 20-30 minutes near the more eastern fallen trees it's been seen
>> in, serveral of us heard it and then it popped up very briefly. A few
>> minutes later it was spotted flying low to the ground about 15' west moving
>> toward the tree it seems to have been seen in much of the day (per photos).
>> Several of us were able to obtain photos.
>>
>> Donna Stumpp
>> Westminster, CO - Jeffco
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Re: [cobirds] Fallout of White-throated Sparrows and Hermit Thrushes, Eastern Boulder County, Oct. 18

[tedfl...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:39:29 PM UTC-6 pato... wrote:

>
> This morning, Sunday Oct. 18, I had a first eBird record of a 
> White-throated Sparrow in the four Denver City Park hotspots outside of the 
> Denver Zoo.
> It was in a loose flock of sparrows, juncos and chickadees that flew over 
> the zoo fence, so it was actually in both places.
> And BTW, YOU had the last previous WTSP sighting in the zoo back in 
> February 2016.
>

On the occasion of Super Bowl 50, no less!

Protip: The best time to visit the zoo is when the home team is in the 
Super Bowl. The staff felt so bad for us, they gave us free rein of the 
entire facility. It was an unforgettable experience, with some pretty 
amazing birds and wildlife:

https://blog.aba.org/2016/03/birding-at-the-zoo.html

Ted Floyd
Lafayette, Boulder County

P. s. Another protip: Might have to wait a few more years before the home 
team is in the Super Bowl...



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Re: [cobirds] Fallout of White-throated Sparrows and Hermit Thrushes, Eastern Boulder County, Oct. 18

[Charles Hundertmark]

Something was definitely going on. On the 17th, I took a walk behind my home in 
Lafayette, a couple of miles north of Waneka/Greenlee. My neighborhood near 
Heron Lake does not usually produce rare birds. One of the first birds I 
spotted was a male Black-throated Blue Warbler. Then spotted a Ruby-crowned 
Kinglet and Hermit Thrush. On the rest of a short walk, a couple more 
Ruby-crowned Kinglets appeared along with a Brown Creeper and a good number of 
Audubon’s Warblers.

Later that day and through the 18th, other birders chasing my report of the 
Black-throated Blue refound that bird but also reported several other 
interesting migrants including at least one White-throated Sparrow.

Chuck Hundertmark
Lafayette, CO

> On Oct 18, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Patrick O'Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> Very interesting, Ted. Maybe it's spreading:
> 
> This morning, Sunday Oct. 18, I had a first eBird record of a White-throated 
> Sparrow in the four Denver City Park hotspots outside of the Denver Zoo.
> It was in a loose flock of sparrows, juncos and chickadees that flew over the 
> zoo fence, so it was actually in both places.
> And BTW, YOU had the last previous WTSP sighting in the zoo back in February 
> 2016.
> 
> 
> After I got home, about a mile east of the park and just off busy East Colfax 
> Avenue, I had a first-ever Hermit Thrush in my backyard.
> 
> Excuse the poor photo quality -- the sparrow was shot through a crack in the 
> cyclone-slats-and-vines fence between the zoo and the park road northeast of 
> Ferril Lake, and the thrush was through my kitchen window. 
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick O'Driscoll
> Denver
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:26 PM tedfl...@gmail.com 
>   > wrote:
> Hey, all.
> 
> On my ramble earlier today, Sun., Oct. 18, about the Greater Greenlee 
> Ecosystem, eastern Boulder County, I found at least 4 white-throated sparrows 
> and at least 8 hermit thrushes.
> 
> I'm sure Bryan Guarente has an explanation...
> 
> Ted Floyd
> Lafayette, Boulder County
> 
> P. s. Like others, I find myself suddenly unable to post photos to COBirds.
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