Re: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread Connie Kogler 
I walked down the hill and stayed on the north end of the birders lined up. 
Great views! When I arrived the Sandpiper was on the south side of the creek. I 
watched it swim across the creek toward everyone and continue with it’s 
foraging, coming closer and closer to the shore and line of birders.  I would 
estimate people were 75-100 feet away from the creek and shoreline.   Nothing 
whatsoever in this birds behavior indicated it was disturbed by the viewers.  

To intimate that regardless of where people were the bird was stressed - is 
just not fair. Can people push and cause the bird to flush? Sure, but no one 
did anything of the sort while I was there. 


Great bird and great share! Thanks All.


Connie Kogler
Aurora, CO
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Re: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread linda hodges 
Dan,
Thank you for explaining the the bird most likely is, indeed, bothered by
us birders. I was quite surprised at how close people (myself included)
could get to the bird without seemingly bothering it.
I appreciate the education.

*Linda Hodges*

*​Colorado Springs​*


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Daniel Maynard  wrote:

> Interestingly, the best place to see this awesome bird when I was there
> was up high on the "trail" the first few observers had made right along
> Highway 9. When I tromped out through the post holes down low to get
> slightly closer, hoping for a better view, I found the bird was often
> blocked from view by the snow banks on the nearest shore. In order to get
> close enough to make that view work, I would have had to walk right up on
> the bird, and I wasn't about to risk spoiling this for other people who
> hadn't made it up yet. Especially considering how mega this rarity is (it
> could potentially draw birders from out-of-state), let's play it safe and
> give the bird its space. Chances are we all have high powered scopes and
> can see quite well from the highway, and even if you don't have a great
> scope, there will most likely be someone there who does when you go to
> look. And if you think this bird is undisturbed by our encroachments, it's
> not; it's probably just too focused on surviving another winter night at
> 9,000 feet at the moment. Bother it enough, though, and it will leave
>
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> Dan Maynard
> Denver, CO
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Duane Nelson 
> wrote:
>
>> Birders,
>>
>> I hate to bring this up, but I know I'm not the only person thinking
>> this. Every day, people seem to be edging closer and closer to the Purple
>> Sandpiper at Lake Dillon. I think the welfare of this bird should come
>> before the "money shot" photograph. We should all feel fortunate just to
>> witness this special visitor. We, as birders, are under the scrutiny of a
>> much larger audience, and I want us to surpass expectations for our
>> exemplary behavior. I beg that people stand back, let the bird forage with
>> a little space, and remain here as long as it chooses. If it's flushed,
>> where else can it go?
>>
>> I know a little about allowing people to observe rare birds from an
>> appropriate distance and for an appropriate duration. I don't know what I
>> can do about the Purple Sandpiper, but I'm thinking I'd better consider the
>> implications of reporting mega rarities in my neck of the woods.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Duane Nelson
>>
>> Las Animas, Bent County, CO
>>
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RE: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread Bill Maynard 
Duane and COBirders,

With today's high pixel cameras or by digiscoping, you can take a photo of a 
shorebird from a respectable distance and severely crop the image to show just 
the face if you want to. On the 19th, no one, IMO, in the group of 12 or more 
birders (all of us with cameras) approached the PUSA too closely, in fact the 
bird walked towards us on its own on more than one occasion. No one then, or 
nobody I bird with, would want to be responsible for a 1st state record bird to 
fly off because of their need for the year's best photo, especially since it 
was foraging in the narrow Blue River where it was always fairly close. Also, 
in Colorado, birders seem to be interested in knowing why it is here, what it 
is eating, how long will it stay, what age is it (1st year) more than just 
adding a tick to a life list. One interesting fact I did not know but found out 
when I got home is Purple Sandpiper, the chunkiest shorebird, eats both night 
and day and this one never stopped foraging in the 30 minutes I watched it. 

Here is the same photo of the bird I severely cropped and posted just the head 
and bill of earlier to see if someone, thanks Dave Leatherman, might have 
insight into the food in the shallows of Blue River where the bird was foraging 
the day I was there. 

Respectfully,

Bill Maynard
Colorado Springs, CO

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Subject: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

Birders,

I hate to bring this up, but I know I'm not the only person thinking this. 
Every day, people seem to be edging closer and closer to the Purple Sandpiper 
at Lake Dillon. I think the welfare of this bird should come before the "money 
shot" photograph. We should all feel fortunate just to witness this special 
visitor. We, as birders, are under the scrutiny of a much larger audience, and 
I want us to surpass expectations for our exemplary behavior. I beg that people 
stand back, let the bird forage with a little space, and remain here as long as 
it chooses. If it's flushed, where else can it go?

I know a little about allowing people to observe rare birds from an appropriate 
distance and for an appropriate duration. I don't know what I can do about the 
Purple Sandpiper, but I'm thinking I'd better consider the implications of 
reporting mega rarities in my neck of the woods.

Respectfully,

Duane Nelson

Las Animas, Bent County, CO


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Re: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread Gregg Goodrich 
Yes, the view from the parking lot was good with a scope. There is no way the 
bird can forage on the river with folks on the banks of the river. Steves map 
and drawing are good guide lines. Hopefully many more Birders will get to see 
it.

Gregg Goodrich 
Highlands Ranch 

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Re: [cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread Daniel Maynard 
Interestingly, the best place to see this awesome bird when I was there was
up high on the "trail" the first few observers had made right along Highway
9. When I tromped out through the post holes down low to get slightly
closer, hoping for a better view, I found the bird was often blocked from
view by the snow banks on the nearest shore. In order to get close enough
to make that view work, I would have had to walk right up on the bird, and
I wasn't about to risk spoiling this for other people who hadn't made it up
yet. Especially considering how mega this rarity is (it could potentially
draw birders from out-of-state), let's play it safe and give the bird its
space. Chances are we all have high powered scopes and can see quite well
from the highway, and even if you don't have a great scope, there will most
likely be someone there who does when you go to look. And if you think this
bird is undisturbed by our encroachments, it's not; it's probably just too
focused on surviving another winter night at 9,000 feet at the moment.
Bother it enough, though, and it will leave

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Dan Maynard
Denver, CO

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Duane Nelson 
wrote:

> Birders,
>
> I hate to bring this up, but I know I'm not the only person thinking this.
> Every day, people seem to be edging closer and closer to the Purple
> Sandpiper at Lake Dillon. I think the welfare of this bird should come
> before the "money shot" photograph. We should all feel fortunate just to
> witness this special visitor. We, as birders, are under the scrutiny of a
> much larger audience, and I want us to surpass expectations for our
> exemplary behavior. I beg that people stand back, let the bird forage with
> a little space, and remain here as long as it chooses. If it's flushed,
> where else can it go?
>
> I know a little about allowing people to observe rare birds from an
> appropriate distance and for an appropriate duration. I don't know what I
> can do about the Purple Sandpiper, but I'm thinking I'd better consider the
> implications of reporting mega rarities in my neck of the woods.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Duane Nelson
>
> Las Animas, Bent County, CO
>
>
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[cobirds] Purple Sandpiper viewing ethics

2016-12-20 Thread Duane Nelson 

Birders,

I hate to bring this up, but I know I'm not the only person thinking 
this. Every day, people seem to be edging closer and closer to the 
Purple Sandpiper at Lake Dillon. I think the welfare of this bird should 
come before the "money shot" photograph. We should all feel fortunate 
just to witness this special visitor. We, as birders, are under the 
scrutiny of a much larger audience, and I want us to surpass 
expectations for our exemplary behavior. I beg that people stand back, 
let the bird forage with a little space, and remain here as long as it 
chooses. If it's flushed, where else can it go?


I know a little about allowing people to observe rare birds from an 
appropriate distance and for an appropriate duration. I don't know what 
I can do about the Purple Sandpiper, but I'm thinking I'd better 
consider the implications of reporting mega rarities in my neck of the 
woods.


Respectfully,

Duane Nelson

Las Animas, Bent County, CO


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