Re: [cobirds] Re: New AOU order

2016-08-16 Thread Eric DeFonso 
Thanks Tony - I had totally glossed over that the Clements update did not
in fact incorporate the new higher order taxonomy of AOU-NA, at least for
the time being. This plays some havoc with my own personal listing system,
where my database needs to follow a global system like Clements but is
still focused largely on the AOU-NA area where I spend most of my birding
life. Oh well, what you gonna do.

Eric

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Eric DeFonso
Westminster, CO

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 9:07 PM, coloradodipper via Colorado Birds <
cobirds@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> The CFO, as does ABA and most (if not all) state- and province-level bird
> authorities in the ABA area, follow the AOU taxonomy and nomenclature,
> while eBird follows Clements.  That distinction is important in this case,
> because the AOU taxonomy covers only North America (Canada south through
> Panama), while eBird covers the world, thus the latter organization's need
> for a more-comprehensive taxonomy.  CFO's current taxonomy online is
> correct, for certain values of "correct."
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Tony Leukering
> currently Cut Bank, MT
>

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[cobirds] Re: New AOU order

2016-08-13 Thread coloradodipper via Colorado Birds 

 Hi all:

The CFO, as does ABA and most (if not all) state- and province-level bird 
authorities in the ABA area, follow the AOU taxonomy and nomenclature, while 
eBird follows Clements.  That distinction is important in this case, because 
the AOU taxonomy covers only North America (Canada south through Panama), while 
eBird covers the world, thus the latter organization's need for a 
more-comprehensive taxonomy.  CFO's current taxonomy online is correct, for 
certain values of "correct."

Enjoy,

Tony Leukering
currently Cut Bank, MT




New AOU order


  
  

  Tom Behnfield : Aug 10 05:06AM -0700 
   

Thanks for the info. I notice that Western Scrub Jay has been removed 
from 
my Colorado lists and has not been replaced by Woodhouse's Scrub Jay. I 
noticed quite a few on my "Needs List" this morning. I changed it in my 
first checklist of the year that contained Western Scrub Jay, but it has 
yet to update. Any thoughts?
 
Good birding!
 
Tom Behnfield
Lakewood, CO
behnfi...@q.com
 
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:25:40 AM UTC-6, León wrote:
  
  
  David Suddjian : Aug 10 07:18AM -0600


eBird is currently running its annual taxonomic update, still in 
progress
now, but it is expected to be completed shortly. In the meantime some
things on birder's lists temporarily do funky things as the work is in
progress.
 
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/taxonomy2016/
 
David Suddjian
Littleton, CO
 
  
  
  Eric DeFonso : Aug 10 06:30PM -0600   
 

Does this mean the CFO checklist is auto-sync'ed to the eBird (and hence
Clements) taxonomy? Just curious - I note that the 2016 Clements updates
are now released as of today, and I assume the CFO checklist will then be
revised shortly again.
 
For example, the CFO checklist at the moment (6pm, Aug 10) has an incorrect
family sequence -
 
[...]
Partridges
Grebes
Pigeons and Doves
Cuckoos
Goatsuckers
Swifts
Hummingbirds
Rails
Cranes
...
Gulls
Loons
Storks
...
Herons
Ibises
New World Vultures
Osprey
Hawks, Eagles, etc
[...]
 
 
but in fact the order should be
[...]
Partridges
Loons
Grebes
Storks
...
Herons
Ibises
New World Vultures
Osprey
Hawks, Eagles, etc.
...
Rails
Cranes
Pigeons and Doves
Cuckoos
Owls
Goatsuckers
Swifts
Hummingbirds
[...]
 
and so forth. I've left a lot out obviously, but only to illustrate the big
differences better. This should explain some of the confusion mentioned
earlier in this thread about the difficulty of finding some of the family
groups in the new checklist! Things have changed, yes, but not *that* much.
:)
 
Eric
 
 
 
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Re: [cobirds] Re: New AOU order

2016-08-10 Thread Eric DeFonso 
Does this mean the CFO checklist is auto-sync'ed to the eBird (and hence
Clements) taxonomy? Just curious - I note that the 2016 Clements updates
are now released as of today, and I assume the CFO checklist will then be
revised shortly again.

For example, the CFO checklist at the moment (6pm, Aug 10) has an incorrect
family sequence -

[...]
Partridges
Grebes
Pigeons and Doves
Cuckoos
Goatsuckers
Swifts
Hummingbirds
Rails
Cranes
...
Gulls
Loons
Storks
...
Herons
Ibises
New World Vultures
Osprey
Hawks, Eagles, etc
[...]


but in fact the order should be
[...]
Partridges
Loons
Grebes
Storks
...
Herons
Ibises
New World Vultures
Osprey
Hawks, Eagles, etc.
...
Rails
Cranes
Pigeons and Doves
Cuckoos
Owls
Goatsuckers
Swifts
Hummingbirds
[...]

and so forth. I've left a lot out obviously, but only to illustrate the big
differences better. This should explain some of the confusion mentioned
earlier in this thread about the difficulty of finding some of the family
groups in the new checklist! Things have changed, yes, but not *that* much.
:)

Eric



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Re: [cobirds] Re: New AOU order

2016-08-10 Thread David Suddjian 
eBird is currently running its annual taxonomic update, still in progress
now, but it is expected to be completed shortly. In the meantime some
things on birder's lists temporarily do funky things as the work is in
progress.

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/taxonomy2016/

David Suddjian
Littleton, CO

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Tom Behnfield  wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I notice that Western Scrub Jay has been removed from
> my Colorado lists and has not been replaced by Woodhouse's Scrub Jay. I
> noticed quite a few on my "Needs List" this morning. I changed it in my
> first checklist of the year that contained Western Scrub Jay, but it has
> yet to update. Any thoughts?
>
> Good birding!
>
> Tom Behnfield
> Lakewood, CO
> behnfi...@q.com
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:25:40 AM UTC-6, León wrote:
>>
>> COBirders,
>>
>> Thanks to Joyce T. for the alert, and thanks for those who constructed
>> the posting of the new CFO checklist.  After glancing over it I became
>> dizzy.  For example, I found House Sparrow between Phainopepla and American
>> Pipit.  Where is Wood Stork?  Not that I expect to see one in our state,
>> but it’s between Yellow-billed Loon and Magnificent Frigatebird.  At my age
>> I’m gonna have to use an alphabetized list.
>>
>> Leon Bright, Westcliffe and Pueblo
>>
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[cobirds] Re: New AOU order

2016-08-10 Thread Tom Behnfield 
Thanks for the info. I notice that Western Scrub Jay has been removed from 
my Colorado lists and has not been replaced by Woodhouse's Scrub Jay. I 
noticed quite a few on my "Needs List" this morning. I changed it in my 
first checklist of the year that contained Western Scrub Jay, but it has 
yet to update. Any thoughts?

Good birding!

Tom Behnfield
Lakewood, CO
behnfi...@q.com

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:25:40 AM UTC-6, León wrote:
>
> COBirders,
>
> Thanks to Joyce T. for the alert, and thanks for those who constructed the 
> posting of the new CFO checklist.  After glancing over it I became dizzy.  
> For example, I found House Sparrow between Phainopepla and American Pipit.  
> Where is Wood Stork?  Not that I expect to see one in our state, but it’s 
> between Yellow-billed Loon and Magnificent Frigatebird.  At my age I’m 
> gonna have to use an alphabetized list.
>
> Leon Bright, Westcliffe and Pueblo
>

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