Re: sync core-data store between OS X and iOS
On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Martin Hewitson wrote: I just wanted to confirm what I've read. Basically, it seems to be true that there is currently no official apple API which allows one to sync a core-data store between OS X and iOS. Am I correct in this statement? Yes, you are. That's what I feared. Too bad. How are others doing this then? Or are they not? I couldn't find any 3rd party solutions - only ones that work over bonjour which typically have the 'same network' problem. Martin Nick Zitzmann http://www.chronosnet.com/ Martin Hewitson Albert-Einstein-Institut Max-Planck-Institut fuer Gravitationsphysik und Universitaet Hannover Callinstr. 38, 30167 Hannover, Germany Tel: +49-511-762-17121, Fax: +49-511-762-5861 E-Mail: martin.hewit...@aei.mpg.de WWW: http://www.aei.mpg.de/~hewitson ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Performance issue
Dear list, I am working on the performance issues of an application. I am facing a difficulty in finding out how many times a method is called in different contexts. Suppose there is a method called 'setItem'. I need the report which tells something like the method 'setItem' is called 12 times at runtime in specific event action. Is there any tool in MAC which gives the report on how many times a method is called. I have seen the different templates in instruments tool, but I am not getting, which will give the right solution. Please share any information if you have something or correct me if anything I am doing wrong. Thanks, vijay Mahindra Satyam powered IT for the 2010 FIFA World Cup(TM). To learn more, visit: www.mahindrasatyam.com/fifa/index.asp DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
[OT]making app new modules display from within the app and not from the app store.
Hello all, I know this isn't the right place so please don't behead me if I offend you, but if you could help me, Im will be happy to hear you. We are developing an application with interactive children modules. The idea is that each time a new module is ready it will be submitted to Apple for approval and then our app and only our app should display the new module. But then when you buy it will take you to the app store and then it will download it to our app bundle. As an example the MacUser app which they post their magazines, and then you can buy individually each magazine, but if you try to to search for a single magazine in the app store you don't find it, BUT once form within the app click a specific magazine, the app store opens and you can download the magazine. Is there any kind of special agreement between the developer company and Apple? Thanks I hope somebody can give me a clue on what shall we do. Gustavo ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Question about scope
This is a noob question I'm sure.
I have a rootViewController. In it is a NSString thats been declared. The
rootViewController pushes another view onto the NavigationViewController...
loading that view. I'd like the loaded view to be able to access that string
variable. However, I am currently getting a null for it.
*RootViewController*
- (void)viewDidLoad {
myString = @foo;
}
- (NSString *)getString {
return myString;
}
- (void)displaySecondView:(id)sender {
UIViewController *menuViewController = [[MenuViewController alloc]
init];
menuViewController.title = @Menu;
self.navigationItem.backBarButtonItem =
[[UIBarButtonItem alloc] initWithTitle:@Now Playing
style: UIBarButtonItemStyleBordered
target:nil
action:nil];
[self.navigationController pushViewController:menuViewController
animated:YES];
[menuViewController release];
}
*And now the view being pushed...
*
in the .h I import RootViewController
RootViewController *rootViewController
@property(nonatomic,retain) RootViewController *rootViewController
--
in the .m
@synthesize rootViewController
- (void)viewDidLoad {
NSString *tmp = [rootViewController getSourceLabel];
NSLog(@%@,tmp); // (null)
}
All I want to do is access methods in the RootViewController...
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Re: NSCoding between iOS and Mac OS X
What about binary property lists, they should be interchangeable between iOS and Mac OS X? On 26/08/2010, at 1:29 AM, Ricky Sharp wrote: A similar question came up recently. While some objects (e.g. NSNumber) things should be binary compatible. But you may run into issues. Also depends upon what objects you are coding. Mac OS X uses NSColor whereas iOS uses UIColor. I would recommend using an intermediate normalized format instead. Then write independent code for each platform. If archiving colors, capture normalized values like color mode (ARGB, HSL), color components, etc. Then, rebuild up objects as needed. For text data, I would use UTF-8 with the original text being normalized. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Nathan Day nathan_...@mac.com wrote: Does anybody know whether NSCoding can be used to transfer data between iOS and Mac OS X. Is this documented as guaranteed to work. I have tried to do a google search but I got nothing, probably searching for the wrong thing. Nathan Day http://homepage.mac.com/nathan_day/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/rsharp%40mac.com This email sent to rsh...@mac.com Nathan Day http://homepage.mac.com/nathan_day/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Performance issue
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Vijayakumar_Thota wrote: I am working on the performance issues of an application. I am facing a difficulty in finding out how many times a method is called in different contexts. Suppose there is a method called 'setItem'. I need the report which tells something like the method 'setItem' is called 12 times at runtime in specific event action. Is there any tool in MAC which gives the report on how many times a method is called. I have seen the different templates in instruments tool, but I am not getting, which will give the right solution. Please share any information if you have something or correct me if anything I am doing wrong. Have a look at Instruments, and Shark. they came with Xcode in your Dev Tools installation. Cheers, -- Uli Kusterer The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere... ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Question about scope
What I have done is when instantiating the viewcontroller to push into the
navigationviewcontroller is to call a method on the viewcontroller before
the push, thus setting the var and not trying to attempt a get. It works.
Still curious about the get though - can that be done?
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote:
This is a noob question I'm sure.
I have a rootViewController. In it is a NSString thats been declared. The
rootViewController pushes another view onto the NavigationViewController...
loading that view. I'd like the loaded view to be able to access that string
variable. However, I am currently getting a null for it.
*RootViewController*
- (void)viewDidLoad {
myString = @foo;
}
- (NSString *)getString {
return myString;
}
- (void)displaySecondView:(id)sender {
UIViewController *menuViewController = [[MenuViewController alloc]
init];
menuViewController.title = @Menu;
self.navigationItem.backBarButtonItem =
[[UIBarButtonItem alloc] initWithTitle:@Now Playing
style: UIBarButtonItemStyleBordered
target:nil
action:nil];
[self.navigationController pushViewController:menuViewController
animated:YES];
[menuViewController release];
}
*And now the view being pushed...
*
in the .h I import RootViewController
RootViewController *rootViewController
@property(nonatomic,retain) RootViewController *rootViewController
--
in the .m
@synthesize rootViewController
- (void)viewDidLoad {
NSString *tmp = [rootViewController getSourceLabel];
NSLog(@%@,tmp); // (null)
}
All I want to do is access methods in the RootViewController...
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Re: Crashes in _Unwind_Resume
Greg Parker wrote: You might try installing an @try/@catch block in main. If the unwinder is working long enough to get there then you can log something to help debug further. You can use `...@catch (NSException *e)` to check for Objective-C exceptions and `...@catch (...)` to check for C++ exceptions. Excellent, thanks for all the info and the suggestion. I’ll do this and see if anything drops out of it. vincent habchi wrote: By the way, both thread 0 and 2 seem to be in the same routine by the time it crashes. Are you sure all your variables are thread safe? That function is CFRunLoopRun, which is explicitly meant for use on different threads. (Yes, they’re separate run loops.) Joar Wingfors wrote: The default system compiler on Mac OS X is GCC, not LLVM. True enough, but Xcode and other non-trivial apps are compiled with LLVM, and for quite some time the message out of Apple’s devtools team has been to migrate to LLVM. I even seem to recall hearing at WWDC that the only reason they didn’t change the default compiler in some recent version of Xcode was because it just seemed wrong to do that in a maintenance release. I still can’t use pure LLVM due to Clang bugs, but GCC LLVM (which is what devtools advocates) appears to be working well. Roland King wrote: Adding a try/catch around some main bits of the app found the real issue for me. Another good suggestion, thanks. This may be a bit hard for me, because this app has a lot of dispatching to the main thread, but between Greg’s suggestion and yours, perhaps I can get a critical clue logged. Thanks, everyone. I’ll give it all a shot and we’ll see how it goes. Benjamin Rister___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Question about scope
Well to me it looks like you're never assigning anything into the second
viewcontroller's rootViewController property, which means it'll be nil...
Dave
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On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:50 AM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote:
What I have done is when instantiating the viewcontroller to push into the
navigationviewcontroller is to call a method on the viewcontroller before
the push, thus setting the var and not trying to attempt a get. It works.
Still curious about the get though - can that be done?
Interactive Designer and Developer
Google Voice: (508) 656-0622
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Eric E. Dolecki edole...@gmail.com wrote:
This is a noob question I'm sure.
I have a rootViewController. In it is a NSString thats been declared. The
rootViewController pushes another view onto the NavigationViewController...
loading that view. I'd like the loaded view to be able to access that string
variable. However, I am currently getting a null for it.
*RootViewController*
- (void)viewDidLoad {
myString = @foo;
}
- (NSString *)getString {
return myString;
}
- (void)displaySecondView:(id)sender {
UIViewController *menuViewController = [[MenuViewController alloc]
init];
menuViewController.title = @Menu;
self.navigationItem.backBarButtonItem =
[[UIBarButtonItem alloc] initWithTitle:@Now Playing
style: UIBarButtonItemStyleBordered
target:nil
action:nil];
[self.navigationController pushViewController:menuViewController
animated:YES];
[menuViewController release];
}
*And now the view being pushed...
*
in the .h I import RootViewController
RootViewController *rootViewController
@property(nonatomic,retain) RootViewController *rootViewController
--
in the .m
@synthesize rootViewController
- (void)viewDidLoad {
NSString *tmp = [rootViewController getSourceLabel];
NSLog(@%@,tmp); // (null)
}
All I want to do is access methods in the RootViewController...
Interactive Designer and Developer
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How to change name and location of core dump files
Hello I need to enable 'core dumps' for my app. I am doing this by using 'setrlimit()' function to change ulimit from default(zero) to unlimited. Now when i crash my app, it creates a dump file at /cores/core.xxx where xxx is the PID. How i can change this core name to a more readable one, say core.myApp. Also can i change the default location of core generation?? The problem is, when there are multiple cores dumped in /cores, the only way to identify the related core is by timestamp of file. Now user either need to remember the time of crash or PID (process id) to get the correct core from my app. What can we do here? Or i am missing some very obvious point ? Thanks in Advance -Parimal Das ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
invoke menu tracking programmatically
Hi, Is it possible to invoke NSMenu tracking programmatically? Thanks, Nava Carmon ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [OT]making app new modules display from within the app and not from the app store.
On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Gustavo Pizano wrote: Hello all, I know this isn't the right place so please don't behead me if I offend you, but if you could help me, Im will be happy to hear you. We are developing an application with interactive children modules. The idea is that each time a new module is ready it will be submitted to Apple for approval and then our app and only our app should display the new module. But then when you buy it will take you to the app store and then it will download it to our app bundle. As an example the MacUser app which they post their magazines, and then you can buy individually each magazine, but if you try to to search for a single magazine in the app store you don't find it, BUT once form within the app click a specific magazine, the app store opens and you can download the magazine. Is there any kind of special agreement between the developer company and Apple? Thanks I hope somebody can give me a clue on what shall we do. Actually, you aren't too far off topic. MacUser does this with the In App Purchase features using the Store Kit framework. You don't have to submit each module, but you will have to set up your app to deal with your newly arriving content. I recommend you start reading through the docs here: In App Purchase Programming Guide http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/StoreKitGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html Wyatt___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [OT]making app new modules display from within the app and not from the app store.
Wyatt Thanks a lot, I didn't know about this.. I will look into it right away. Gustavo On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Wyatt Webb wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Gustavo Pizano wrote: Hello all, I know this isn't the right place so please don't behead me if I offend you, but if you could help me, Im will be happy to hear you. We are developing an application with interactive children modules. The idea is that each time a new module is ready it will be submitted to Apple for approval and then our app and only our app should display the new module. But then when you buy it will take you to the app store and then it will download it to our app bundle. As an example the MacUser app which they post their magazines, and then you can buy individually each magazine, but if you try to to search for a single magazine in the app store you don't find it, BUT once form within the app click a specific magazine, the app store opens and you can download the magazine. Is there any kind of special agreement between the developer company and Apple? Thanks I hope somebody can give me a clue on what shall we do. Actually, you aren't too far off topic. MacUser does this with the In App Purchase features using the Store Kit framework. You don't have to submit each module, but you will have to set up your app to deal with your newly arriving content. I recommend you start reading through the docs here: In App Purchase Programming Guide http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/StoreKitGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html Wyatt ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
A question
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Re: A question
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Re: sync core-data store between OS X and iOS
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Martin Hewitson wrote: That's what I feared. Too bad. How are others doing this then? Or are they not? I couldn't find any 3rd party solutions - only ones that work over bonjour which typically have the 'same network' problem. We wrote our own sync engine for syncing data between NoteLife and SOHO Notes. I think you'll have to do this as well. Nick Zitzmann http://www.chronosnet.com/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Mixing CPP and Obj-C
I want to add Obj-C to classes in a CPP static library that is used by Mac and Windows apps. I have set the compile type to cpp.objc so that the file extension can remain .cpp and compile on Windows. I am #ifdef'ing functions that use Cocoa. My question is memory management. Should functions allocate/release auto release pools? -koko ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mixing CPP and Obj-C
On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:11 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I want to add Obj-C to classes in a CPP static library that is used by Mac and Windows apps. I have set the compile type to cpp.objc so that the file extension can remain .cpp and compile on Windows. I am #ifdef'ing functions that use Cocoa. My question is memory management. Should functions allocate/release auto release pools? Autorelease pools are not scoped to any particular class or function, so probably not, unless you're using the library in an application that doesn't have an autorelease pool, which would be pretty rare. You would also need to create a new pool in any thread other than the main one, and drain it at thread exit. If an object gets autoreleased and there is no autorelease pool in place for it, you'll see a big warning in the console, so just look for those. If you don't see one, then you're OK. -- Dave Carrigan d...@rudedog.org Seattle, WA, USA ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mixing CPP and Obj-C
Thanks Dave. On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Dave Carrigan wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:11 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I want to add Obj-C to classes in a CPP static library that is used by Mac and Windows apps. I have set the compile type to cpp.objc so that the file extension can remain .cpp and compile on Windows. I am #ifdef'ing functions that use Cocoa. My question is memory management. Should functions allocate/release auto release pools? Autorelease pools are not scoped to any particular class or function, so probably not, unless you're using the library in an application that doesn't have an autorelease pool, which would be pretty rare. You would also need to create a new pool in any thread other than the main one, and drain it at thread exit. If an object gets autoreleased and there is no autorelease pool in place for it, you'll see a big warning in the console, so just look for those. If you don't see one, then you're OK. -- Dave Carrigan d...@rudedog.org Seattle, WA, USA ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: sync core-data store between OS X and iOS
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Martin Hewitson wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Nick Zitzmann wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Martin Hewitson wrote: I just wanted to confirm what I've read. Basically, it seems to be true that there is currently no official apple API which allows one to sync a core-data store between OS X and iOS. Am I correct in this statement? Yes, you are. That's what I feared. Too bad. How are others doing this then? Or are they not? I couldn't find any 3rd party solutions - only ones that work over bonjour which typically have the 'same network' problem. Marcus S. Zarra, author of Core Data: Apple's API for Persisting Data on Mac OS X has done exactly that, ZSync: http://www.zarrastudios.com/ZSync/ZSync.html HTH, Keary Suska Esoteritech, Inc. Demystifying technology for your home or business ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to change name and location of core dump files
Hey! On 26/Aug/2010, at 7:29 AM, Parimal Das wrote: How i can change this core name to a more readable one, say core.myApp. Also can i change the default location of core generation?? Be careful as this is controlled system wide, not per process. ;-) And to be clear, I've not messed with this in a long long time so please try on a TEST system first! sysctl is what you're looking for: $ sysctl -a kern.corefile kern.corefile: /cores/core.%P From bsd/kern/kern_proc.c in xnu-1504.7.4 (OSX 10.6.4) /* * proc_core_name(name, uid, pid) * Expand the name described in corefilename, using name, uid, and pid. * corefilename is a printf-like string, with three format specifiers: * %N name of process (name) * %P process id (pid) * %U user id (uid) * For example, %N.core is the default; they can be disabled completely * by using /dev/null, or all core files can be stored in /cores/%U/%N-%P. * This is controlled by the sysctl variable kern.corefile (see above). */ Enjoy! M. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mixing CPP and Obj-C
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:11 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I want to add Obj-C to classes in a CPP static library that is used by Mac and Windows apps. I have set the compile type to cpp.objc so that the file extension can remain .cpp and compile on Windows. I am #ifdef'ing functions that use Cocoa. My question is memory management. Should functions allocate/release auto release pools? It depends. Autorelease pools are a per thread thing (a stack of pools could exist per thread). If your methods are being called from the main thread in an NSApplication derived application then you have an autorelease pool at the event loop level being managed for you. If they are being called form secondary threads then you need to ensure an autorelease pool exists and is drained periodically, assuming code running on that thread deals with any objective-c objects. Now you may want to create nested autorelease pools to further limit the accumulation of temporary objects even when the AppKit framwork is managing a top level autorelease pool for you. Review... http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Articles/mmAutoreleasePools.html -Shawn ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mixing CPP and Obj-C
Thanks Shawn. I will review the referenced article. -koko On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Shawn Erickson wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:11 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I want to add Obj-C to classes in a CPP static library that is used by Mac and Windows apps. I have set the compile type to cpp.objc so that the file extension can remain .cpp and compile on Windows. I am #ifdef'ing functions that use Cocoa. My question is memory management. Should functions allocate/release auto release pools? It depends. Autorelease pools are a per thread thing (a stack of pools could exist per thread). If your methods are being called from the main thread in an NSApplication derived application then you have an autorelease pool at the event loop level being managed for you. If they are being called form secondary threads then you need to ensure an autorelease pool exists and is drained periodically, assuming code running on that thread deals with any objective-c objects. Now you may want to create nested autorelease pools to further limit the accumulation of temporary objects even when the AppKit framwork is managing a top level autorelease pool for you. Review... http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Articles/mmAutoreleasePools.html -Shawn ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls --setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: invoke menu tracking programmatically
Some more details: I have a status menu with a NSSearchField and menu items (I know the best way to implement it - to make a window with a table, but this is done already). When search field is active and user presses up down arrows, I'd like to start menu tracking, that is that the user will be able to move with arrow keys between menu items. I can catch moveUp and moveDown selectors. How can I cause the menu to become a key responder? Thanks, Nava On Aug 26, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Nava Carmon wrote: Hi, Is it possible to invoke NSMenu tracking programmatically? Thanks, Nava Carmon ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/ncarmon%40mac.com This email sent to ncar...@mac.com Nava Carmon ncar...@mac.com Think good and it will be good! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Performance issue
On Aug 26, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Uli Kusterer wrote:
On Aug 26, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Vijayakumar_Thota wrote:
I am working on the performance issues of an application. I am facing a
difficulty in finding out how many times a method is called in different
contexts.
Suppose there is a method called 'setItem'. I need the report which tells
something like the method 'setItem' is called 12 times at runtime in
specific event action.
Is there any tool in MAC which gives the report on how many times a method
is called. I have seen the different templates in instruments tool, but I am
not getting, which will give the right solution.
Please share any information if you have something or correct me if anything
I am doing wrong.
Have a look at Instruments, and Shark. they came with Xcode in your Dev Tools
installation.
Shark and most of the instruments in Instruments are statistical samplers, not
exact function-call measurement. Also, Vijay already mentioned familiarity
with Instruments.
Vijay, you might want to look into Saturn and the function instrumentation
features of gcc. They are documented here:
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/SaturnUserGuide/.
Another tool is DTrace. You can use it manually or build a custom instrument
in Instruments using DTrace as the underlying engine. A quick one-liner
example:
sudo dtrace -n 'objc$target:MyClass:-setItem?:entry { ustack(); }' -p pid of
my process
However, it is pretty rare that the statistical tools are not sufficient for
performance analysis, so you might want to reconsider whether you really need
an exact function-call measurement.
Regards,
Ken
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Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:41 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls --setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What do you mean does not respond? Is it not drawing right? Try calling -validateVisibleColumns. corbin What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/corbind%40apple.com This email sent to corb...@apple.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
On 26 Aug 2010, at 18:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls --setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? Simple solution – don't try to hack Mac OS to be windows. Different UIs are different, let them be so, you users are using macs for a reason. Bob___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
By 'does not respond' I was referring to the view not validating, I was not calling -validateVisibleColumns. Now, using -setAllowdFieTypes and calling -validateVisibleColumns the view is still not validated. I do not know if this is because my array of type is upper case or if case is irrelevant. I did implement - (BOOL)panel:(id)sender shouldShowFilename:(NSString *)filename checking for directories an case of extensions and calling - validateVisibleColumns in my combox box of extensions action method. Works great. -koko On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Corbin Dunn wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:41 AM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls -- setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What do you mean does not respond? Is it not drawing right? Try calling -validateVisibleColumns. corbin What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/corbind%40apple.com This email sent to corb...@apple.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
I beg to differ with you. This is not a hack as the methods to achieve this result all all public Cocoa api's. Our market (machine embroidery) realizes 29 file types. A customer may have a machine that recognizes 3 or 4 of these. Giving them the ability to filter file types from an open panel is quite reasonable and has nothing to do with their preference of Mac over Windows. Check this out and comment please http://highrolls.net/open_filter.png -koko On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Thomas Davie wrote: On 26 Aug 2010, at 18:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls -- setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? Simple solution – don't try to hack Mac OS to be windows. Different UIs are different, let them be so, you users are using macs for a reason. Bob ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
It should be doable. A few applications offer this kind of filtering. Photoshop comes to mind. Not sure why it's not working for you, though, sorry. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat/Skype:LaurentDaudelin http://www.nemesys-soft.com/ Logiciels Nemesys Software laur...@nemesys-soft.com On Aug 26, 2010, at 17:00, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I beg to differ with you. This is not a hack as the methods to achieve this result all all public Cocoa api's. Our market (machine embroidery) realizes 29 file types. A customer may have a machine that recognizes 3 or 4 of these. Giving them the ability to filter file types from an open panel is quite reasonable and has nothing to do with their preference of Mac over Windows. Check this out and comment please http://highrolls.net/open_filter.png -koko On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Thomas Davie wrote: On 26 Aug 2010, at 18:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls --setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. Am I barking up the wrong or impossible tree here? Simple solution – don't try to hack Mac OS to be windows. Different UIs are different, let them be so, you users are using macs for a reason. Bob ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the user selects an entry the action method calls --setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types. What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a Windows open file dialog. You should probably post your code at this point, since several people (myself included) aren't sure exactly what you've done, or what you're expecting to happen. However, I will point out that NSComboBox is a strange choice for a control to filter file types. As I keep having to say on this list, a NSComboBox is a kind of text field, not a kind of menu. While it doesn't seem impossible to use a combo box in this situation, it's going to take support code to behave like a menu choice. Perhaps that's where the problem lies. You'll get better help on this list if you ask more technically accurate questions. Ambiguous language, like does not respond or dynamic filter as we see in ... Windows, forces us to guess what you're expecting, so we can't respond helpfully. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [SOLVED] NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
For those interested in my solution.
@interface FSAccessoryView : NSView {
@public
NSOpenPanel *m_NSOpenPanel;
NSMutableArray *m_fileTypes;
NSInteger m_idx;
IBOutletNSTextField *m_stitches, *m_colors, *m_inches,
*m_millimeters;
IBOutletNSComboBox *m_filterDescriptions;
}
@end
FSAccessoryView is added to the open panel. It contains a NSComboBox,
set non-editable and some other controls that do not bear on this
discussion.
-selectFileTypes is wired to the combo box. The -setNeedsDisplay call
causes my preview to be drawn.
m_fileTypes is an Array of Arrays containing file extensions.
m_filterDescriptions populates the combo box.
@implementation FSAccessoryView
- (IBAction)selectFileTypes:(id)sender {
NSInteger idx = [sender indexOfSelectedItem];
if(idx -1)
{
m_idx = idx;
[m_NSOpenPanel validateVisibleColumns];
}
}
- (void)panelSelectionDidChange:(id)sender { [self
setNeedsDisplay:YES]; }
- (BOOL)panel:(id)sender shouldShowFilename:(NSString *)filename {
BOOL dir;
[[NSFileManager defaultManager] fileExistsAtPath:filename
isDirectory:dir];
if(dir) return YES;
else
{
NSString *ext = [filename pathExtension];
NSString *lcext = [ext lowercaseString];
NSString *ucext = [ext uppercaseString];
if([[m_fileTypes objectAtIndex:m_idx] containsObject:lcext] ||
[[m_fileTypes objectAtIndex:m_idx] containsObject:ucext]) return YES;
}
return NO;
}
- (BOOL)isFlipped { return YES;}
- (void)drawRect:(NSRect)rect {
code to draw a preview
}
@end
On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Quincey Morris wrote:
On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote:
I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a
NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the
user selects an entry the action method calls --
setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The issue:
The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file types.
What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a
Windows open file dialog.
You should probably post your code at this point, since several
people (myself included) aren't sure exactly what you've done, or
what you're expecting to happen.
However, I will point out that NSComboBox is a strange choice for a
control to filter file types. As I keep having to say on this list,
a NSComboBox is a kind of text field, not a kind of menu. While it
doesn't seem impossible to use a combo box in this situation, it's
going to take support code to behave like a menu choice. Perhaps
that's where the problem lies.
You'll get better help on this list if you ask more technically
accurate questions. Ambiguous language, like does not respond or
dynamic filter as we see in ... Windows, forces us to guess what
you're expecting, so we can't respond helpfully.
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Re: [SOLVED][CORRECTION] NSOpenPanel -setAllowedFileTypes
m_filterDescriptions is the NSComboBox. It is populated before the
open panel is displayed.
-koko
On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:37 PM, k...@highrolls.net wrote:
For those interested in my solution.
@interface FSAccessoryView : NSView {
@public
NSOpenPanel *m_NSOpenPanel;
NSMutableArray *m_fileTypes;
NSInteger m_idx;
IBOutlet NSTextField *m_stitches, *m_colors, *m_inches,
*m_millimeters;
IBOutletNSComboBox *m_filterDescriptions;
}
@end
FSAccessoryView is added to the open panel. It contains a
NSComboBox, set non-editable and some other controls that do not
bear on this discussion.
-selectFileTypes is wired to the combo box. The -setNeedsDisplay
call causes my preview to be drawn.
m_fileTypes is an Array of Arrays containing file extensions.
m_filterDescriptions populates the combo box.
@implementation FSAccessoryView
- (IBAction)selectFileTypes:(id)sender {
NSInteger idx = [sender indexOfSelectedItem];
if(idx -1)
{
m_idx = idx;
[m_NSOpenPanel validateVisibleColumns];
}
}
- (void)panelSelectionDidChange:(id)sender { [self
setNeedsDisplay:YES]; }
- (BOOL)panel:(id)sender shouldShowFilename:(NSString *)filename {
BOOL dir;
[[NSFileManager defaultManager] fileExistsAtPath:filename
isDirectory:dir];
if(dir) return YES;
else
{
NSString *ext = [filename pathExtension];
NSString *lcext = [ext lowercaseString];
NSString *ucext = [ext uppercaseString];
if([[m_fileTypes objectAtIndex:m_idx] containsObject:lcext] ||
[[m_fileTypes objectAtIndex:m_idx] containsObject:ucext]) return
YES;
}
return NO;
}
- (BOOL)isFlipped { return YES;}
- (void)drawRect:(NSRect)rect {
code to draw a preview
}
@end
On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Quincey Morris wrote:
On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:41, k...@highrolls.net wrote:
I have an accessory view in an NSOpenPanel which contains a
NSComboBox. The combo box is a list of file extensions. When the
user selects an entry the action method calls --
setAllowedFileTypes. All these mechanics work properly. The
issue: The open panel does not respond to the new allowed file
types.
What I am trying to accomplish is a dynamic filter as we see in a
Windows open file dialog.
You should probably post your code at this point, since several
people (myself included) aren't sure exactly what you've done, or
what you're expecting to happen.
However, I will point out that NSComboBox is a strange choice for a
control to filter file types. As I keep having to say on this list,
a NSComboBox is a kind of text field, not a kind of menu. While it
doesn't seem impossible to use a combo box in this situation, it's
going to take support code to behave like a menu choice. Perhaps
that's where the problem lies.
You'll get better help on this list if you ask more technically
accurate questions. Ambiguous language, like does not respond or
dynamic filter as we see in ... Windows, forces us to guess what
you're expecting, so we can't respond helpfully.
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[Moderator] Re: A question
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Posting test messages to a list of 8000+ members isn’t appropriate. Please contact the admins if you feel you’ve been removed or received such a message. On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:43 PM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I was notified that I requested to be removed from the list. I did not. I am testing my ability to communicate. -koko ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/scott%40cocoadoc.com This email sent to sc...@cocoadoc.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [moderator] Re: This is a test
My humble apologies. Sometimes I get outside of my mind. -koko On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Scott Anguish wrote: Posting test messages to a list of 8000+ members isn’t appropriate. Please contact the admins if you feel you’ve been removed or received such a message. On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:43 PM, k...@highrolls.net wrote: I was notified that I requested to be removed from the list. I did not. I am testing my ability to communicate. -koko ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/scott%40cocoadoc.com This email sent to sc...@cocoadoc.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
