Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
Anyone have awesome templates to share? :) Eric Shepherd Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Shane Stanley wrote: > >> On 9 Jun 2014, at 10:16 am, Graham Cox wrote: >> >> I really wish Xcode would allow us to make our own templates, even for NSxxx >> classes. > > You can. Copy this: > > /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Xcode/Templates/File > Templates/Cocoa/Objective-C class.xctemplate > > To here: > > ~/Library/Developer/Xcode/Templates/Cocoa/Objective-C custom class.xctemplate > > Then edit the copied templates to your heart's content. > > When you go to add a new file in Xcode, you'll see your new category of > template listed. > > -- > Shane Stanley > > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/the.sheppy%40gmail.com > > This email sent to the.she...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
On 9 Jun 2014, at 11:04 am, Shane Stanley wrote: > You can. Thanks! There's my morning's productivity gone, but I fully expect it to pay itself back. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
On 9 Jun 2014, at 10:16 am, Graham Cox wrote: > I really wish Xcode would allow us to make our own templates, even for NSxxx > classes. You can. Copy this: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Library/Xcode/Templates/File Templates/Cocoa/Objective-C class.xctemplate To here: ~/Library/Developer/Xcode/Templates/Cocoa/Objective-C custom class.xctemplate Then edit the copied templates to your heart's content. When you go to add a new file in Xcode, you'll see your new category of template listed. -- Shane Stanley ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
On Jun 8, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Graham Cox wrote: > > >> On 8 Jun 2014, at 7:32 am, Lee Ann Rucker wrote: >> >> Delete that init method. Xcode has a standard template and doesn't change it >> when you tick the "make a xib file" checkbox. > > > I really wish Xcode would allow us to make our own templates, even for NSxxx > classes. The templates they do come with are rarely useful, This. This, this, this. A thousand times, this. I've never not found these templates more harmful than helpful. They're especially damaging for newbies, who learn Bad Things by following advice given in the comments in the existing templates. Eric Shepherd Sent from my iPhone ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
On 8 Jun 2014, at 7:32 am, Lee Ann Rucker wrote: > Delete that init method. Xcode has a standard template and doesn't change it > when you tick the "make a xib file" checkbox. I really wish Xcode would allow us to make our own templates, even for NSxxx classes. The templates they do come with are rarely useful, often give you a bunch of methods that you don't always need to override whatever the comments say, give you the wrong initializers, and the thing that bugs me the most, gives you a coding style that is not the one I like to use. As they are, they more or less manage to do nothing but give you extra work to correct. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
initWithWindow: is the designated initializer which is why the template has it vs one other of the init methods, but it doesn't mean you have to use it. It's not there to tell you that you need to call it, it's there so you can add initialization-time code as needed. The easiest thing to do to get a window controller to load from a nib automatically is just implement -windowNibName. (In 10.10 you won't need to even bother if the xib is named the same as the class.) Nothing magical going on. You (as an example) call alloc] init], it calls initWithWindow: passing nil (because it's the designated initializer). You ask for the wc's window at some point, it realizes it doesn't have one, sees windowNibName, loads from the nib, and calls windowDidLoad. Baddabing badda boom. -- Seth Willits On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:24 PM, William Squires wrote: > Okay, if I create a new NSWindowController subclass (and tell Xcode to > generate the .xib as well), it gives me simple (too simple, I think) template > code, whose init... method takes an NSWindow reference. Where does this come > from (the reference)? > > • Is the code instantiating the custom NSWindowController subclass supposed > to allocate the NSWindow reference, and - if so - how? I thought the > controller was supposed to mediate interactions between the UI and any models > or other controllers, according to MVC; other code shouldn't have to worry > about how or where the window comes from. > • Or is this one of those "magical" things that's automatically hooked up > when the .xib gets unarchived? If so, how, since I would think the controller > would have to load the .xib first, and the template code simply contains no > reference to loading (any) xib! > > Unfortunately, all my "program in MacOS X" books are really out-of-date; > what with all the publishers focusing on either Android or iOS these days... > :( (a look about in Barnes & Noble the other day revealed NO books on OS X > programming.) > Could someone on this list please help me understand how a window, and its > controller, are supposed to be loaded/instantiated/unarchived (that's not in > the MainMenu.xib, but in a separate set of files (the header, implementation, > and xib, all related by the class name)? > > P.S. This is with Xcode 5.1.1 on MacOS X 10.8, compiling for MacOS X 64 bit, > 10.7 SDK. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
Delete that init method. Xcode has a standard template and doesn't change it
when you tick the "make a xib file" checkbox. Replace it with
- (id)init
{
return [self initWithWindowNibName:@"myGeneratedNibFileName"];
}
There are plenty of sample apps you can download from Apple that use windows in
separate nibs; if you search for initwithwindownibname you'll find several of
them. Cocoa isn't that easy to just start from scratch with (which is one of
the reasons for Swift); I rarely start with the "new application" template, I
find some useful sample and start modifying it.
- Original Message -
From: "William Squires"
To: "Cocoa Developers"
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:24:02 PM
Subject: Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
Okay, if I create a new NSWindowController subclass (and tell Xcode to
generate the .xib as well), it gives me simple (too simple, I think) template
code, whose init... method takes an NSWindow reference. Where does this come
from (the reference)?
• Is the code instantiating the custom NSWindowController subclass supposed to
allocate the NSWindow reference, and - if so - how? I thought the controller
was supposed to mediate interactions between the UI and any models or other
controllers, according to MVC; other code shouldn't have to worry about how or
where the window comes from.
• Or is this one of those "magical" things that's automatically hooked up when
the .xib gets unarchived? If so, how, since I would think the controller would
have to load the .xib first, and the template code simply contains no reference
to loading (any) xib!
Unfortunately, all my "program in MacOS X" books are really out-of-date;
what with all the publishers focusing on either Android or iOS these days... :(
(a look about in Barnes & Noble the other day revealed NO books on OS X
programming.)
Could someone on this list please help me understand how a window, and its
controller, are supposed to be loaded/instantiated/unarchived (that's not in
the MainMenu.xib, but in a separate set of files (the header, implementation,
and xib, all related by the class name)?
P.S. This is with Xcode 5.1.1 on MacOS X 10.8, compiling for MacOS X 64 bit,
10.7 SDK.
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Another dumb question about NSWindowController(s)
Okay, if I create a new NSWindowController subclass (and tell Xcode to generate the .xib as well), it gives me simple (too simple, I think) template code, whose init... method takes an NSWindow reference. Where does this come from (the reference)? • Is the code instantiating the custom NSWindowController subclass supposed to allocate the NSWindow reference, and - if so - how? I thought the controller was supposed to mediate interactions between the UI and any models or other controllers, according to MVC; other code shouldn't have to worry about how or where the window comes from. • Or is this one of those "magical" things that's automatically hooked up when the .xib gets unarchived? If so, how, since I would think the controller would have to load the .xib first, and the template code simply contains no reference to loading (any) xib! Unfortunately, all my "program in MacOS X" books are really out-of-date; what with all the publishers focusing on either Android or iOS these days... :( (a look about in Barnes & Noble the other day revealed NO books on OS X programming.) Could someone on this list please help me understand how a window, and its controller, are supposed to be loaded/instantiated/unarchived (that's not in the MainMenu.xib, but in a separate set of files (the header, implementation, and xib, all related by the class name)? P.S. This is with Xcode 5.1.1 on MacOS X 10.8, compiling for MacOS X 64 bit, 10.7 SDK. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
