Re: Deconstructing Text Tables

2014-11-20 Thread Charles Jenkins
Thank you, Ken. It took some research and experimentation before I could 
understand your explanation, but it looks like that’s exactly what I needed.  

—

Charles Jenkins


On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Ken Thomases wrote:

> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Charles Jenkins  (mailto:cejw...@gmail.com)> wrote:
>  
> > It’s very easy to create an NSAttributedString that represents a text 
> > table, then show the table in a TextView so the user can edit information 
> > in the cells. The documentation on how to create a text table 
> > (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TextLayout/Articles/TextTables.html)
> >  is fairly clear.  
> >  
> > What I don’t see—and maybe it’s there but I just don’t understand it—is how 
> > to pull the table apart again. Suppose I want to grab all text from the 
> > first cell after the user has edited it. How do I do that?
>  
> You would presumably enumerate the attributed string's ranges for the 
> NSParagraphStyleAttributeName attribute, using 
> -enumerateAttribute:inRange:options:usingBlock:. For each paragraph style 
> object, you would check its textBlocks property to determine which cell the 
> range is part of.
>  
> You're presumably either dealing with just a one-level table or the top-level 
> table, so you would be interested in the firstObject of the textBlocks array. 
> After verifying that it's an NSTextTableBlock, you'd check its table, 
> startingRow, rowSpan, startingColumn, and columnSpan to determine which cell 
> it's a part of. If you're interested in the entire contents of the first 
> cell, you'll need to accumulate the ranges that are part of it, since they 
> won't necessarily all be part of a single range as enumerated.
>  
> Regards,
> Ken
>  
>  


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Re: Deconstructing Text Tables

2014-11-18 Thread Ken Thomases
On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Charles Jenkins  wrote:

> It’s very easy to create an NSAttributedString that represents a text table, 
> then show the table in a TextView so the user can edit information in the 
> cells. The documentation on how to create a text table 
> (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TextLayout/Articles/TextTables.html)
>  is fairly clear.  
> 
> What I don’t see—and maybe it’s there but I just don’t understand it—is how 
> to pull the table apart again. Suppose I want to grab all text from the first 
> cell after the user has edited it. How do I do that?

You would presumably enumerate the attributed string's ranges for the 
NSParagraphStyleAttributeName attribute, using 
-enumerateAttribute:inRange:options:usingBlock:.  For each paragraph style 
object, you would check its textBlocks property to determine which cell the 
range is part of.

You're presumably either dealing with just a one-level table or the top-level 
table, so you would be interested in the firstObject of the textBlocks array.  
After verifying that it's an NSTextTableBlock, you'd check its table, 
startingRow, rowSpan, startingColumn, and columnSpan to determine which cell 
it's a part of.  If you're interested in the entire contents of the first cell, 
you'll need to accumulate the ranges that are part of it, since they won't 
necessarily all be part of a single range as enumerated.

Regards,
Ken


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Re: Deconstructing Text Tables

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Jenkins
Keary,

Thanks for responding. :-)

Your answer is what I was afraid of…

If “index” only applies to characters, and therefore index 0 is the position of 
the first visible character in the TextView’s NSAttributedString, I could 
iterate through, finding the range of each cell’s characters, then jumping to 
the next index after that and asking again.

That should work, but what the heck would I pass as the textBlock pointer? 
Since a text block is exactly what I’m trying to find, I don’t have a good 
pointer to start with, do I?

—  

Charles Jenkins


On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 at 12:50, Keary Suska wrote:

> On Nov 18, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Charles Jenkins  (mailto:cejw...@gmail.com)> wrote:
>  
> > It’s very easy to create an NSAttributedString that represents a text 
> > table, then show the table in a TextView so the user can edit information 
> > in the cells. The documentation on how to create a text table 
> > (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TextLayout/Articles/TextTables.html)
> >  is fairly clear.  
> >  
> > What I don’t see—and maybe it’s there but I just don’t understand it—is how 
> > to pull the table apart again. Suppose I want to grab all text from the 
> > first cell after the user has edited it. How do I do that?
>  
> -rangeOfTextBlock:atIndex: might be your best bet. The hard part is finding 
> exactly "where" you are interested in. If you are only interested in where a 
> user has edited, a delegate method may get you there, otherwise, I don't 
> know. You may need to keep meta-data about constructed tables.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Keary Suska
> Esoteritech, Inc.
>  
>  


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Re: Deconstructing Text Tables

2014-11-18 Thread Keary Suska
On Nov 18, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Charles Jenkins  wrote:

> It’s very easy to create an NSAttributedString that represents a text table, 
> then show the table in a TextView so the user can edit information in the 
> cells. The documentation on how to create a text table 
> (https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TextLayout/Articles/TextTables.html)
>  is fairly clear.  
> 
> What I don’t see—and maybe it’s there but I just don’t understand it—is how 
> to pull the table apart again. Suppose I want to grab all text from the first 
> cell after the user has edited it. How do I do that?

-rangeOfTextBlock:atIndex: might be your best bet. The hard part is finding 
exactly "where" you are interested in. If you are only interested in where a 
user has edited, a delegate method may get you there, otherwise, I don't know. 
You may need to keep meta-data about constructed tables.

HTH,

Keary Suska
Esoteritech, Inc.



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Deconstructing Text Tables

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Jenkins
It’s very easy to create an NSAttributedString that represents a text table, 
then show the table in a TextView so the user can edit information in the 
cells. The documentation on how to create a text table 
(https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/TextLayout/Articles/TextTables.html)
 is fairly clear.  

What I don’t see—and maybe it’s there but I just don’t understand it—is how to 
pull the table apart again. Suppose I want to grab all text from the first cell 
after the user has edited it. How do I do that?

—  

Charles Jenkins

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