Re: How to show progress indicator for background job
However the apple UI guidelines state not to use any controls in the bottom bar. ??? I don't see that. I see a pretty detailed discussion of what kinds of controls to use in the bottom bar and why. http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/UserExperience/Concept ual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGWindows/XHIGWindows.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/2 961-SW6 I don't see anything about progress indicators though. -- Scott Ribe scott_r...@killerbytes.com http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to show progress indicator for background job
On 17/01/2010, at 4:06 PM, Grant Christensen wrote: Hi, apologies for having a wrong topic, replied instead of created a new message. On 16/01/2010, at 11:25 PM, Grant Christensen wrote: Hi all, Somewhat new to cocoa (Mac even) development, and I have a UI layout question that I am hoping to get some opinions on. I have a single window application that contains both a toolbar and a bottom bar. The application periodically goes off and reads some data from a remote server. This is a process that may take up to five seconds, and I don't want to make the user pause while it is occuring, so don't want to pop up a sheet with a status or similar. My first thought was to put a label in the bottom bar saying something like: retrieving from server xxx, and also have a progress indicator. However the apple UI guidelines state not to use any controls in the bottom bar. Can you think of any other Mac standard ways to show progress in a non obtrusive mannor? Just the status label alone may not be sufficient as there would be no way to see if the process has stalled. Thanks for any suggestions Grant Christensen Hi Grant, I don't think there'd be any problem putting a message and a progress bar in the bottom bar. They aren't controls, they're just items which tell the user the state of your app's progress. In fact, both Xcode and Safari do exactly this. In Safari the bottom bar is called a status bar; fairly self explanatory. Ron ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to show progress indicator for background job
Hi Ron, Thanks for that... I should have thought to check out how Apple did it themselves. I was thinking a status message would be ok, but wasn't sure about the progress bar, but then it could all be handled in a text label anyway... Downloading update... 10% complete. Gant On 17/01/2010, at 6:31 PM, Ron Fleckner wrote: On 17/01/2010, at 4:06 PM, Grant Christensen wrote: Hi, apologies for having a wrong topic, replied instead of created a new message. On 16/01/2010, at 11:25 PM, Grant Christensen wrote: Hi all, Somewhat new to cocoa (Mac even) development, and I have a UI layout question that I am hoping to get some opinions on. I have a single window application that contains both a toolbar and a bottom bar. The application periodically goes off and reads some data from a remote server. This is a process that may take up to five seconds, and I don't want to make the user pause while it is occuring, so don't want to pop up a sheet with a status or similar. My first thought was to put a label in the bottom bar saying something like: retrieving from server xxx, and also have a progress indicator. However the apple UI guidelines state not to use any controls in the bottom bar. Can you think of any other Mac standard ways to show progress in a non obtrusive mannor? Just the status label alone may not be sufficient as there would be no way to see if the process has stalled. Thanks for any suggestions Grant Christensen Hi Grant, I don't think there'd be any problem putting a message and a progress bar in the bottom bar. They aren't controls, they're just items which tell the user the state of your app's progress. In fact, both Xcode and Safari do exactly this. In Safari the bottom bar is called a status bar; fairly self explanatory. Ron --- Grant Christensen ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to show progress indicator for background job
On Jan 17, 2010, at 00:58, Grant Christensen wrote: Thanks for that... I should have thought to check out how Apple did it themselves. I was thinking a status message would be ok, but wasn't sure about the progress bar, but then it could all be handled in a text label anyway... Downloading update... 10% complete. While I don't see anything wrong with a small progress bar next to the status message, a circular progress indicator may be more appealing. If it's not extremely important to represent the proportion of the download completed, then an *indeterminate* circular progress indicator's animation is enough to draw attention to the activity represented by the status message, without being a glaring eyesore. (I guess I really mean: without being bright blue.) If it is important, a determinate circular progress indicator, like the one Xcode uses to show build progress, may be more pleasant than a bar. Incidentally, iPhoto, iCal and iTunes all have controls in their bottom bar. So do Mail, Pages and Numbers, in a way. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
How to show progress indicator for background job
Hi, apologies for having a wrong topic, replied instead of created a new message. On 16/01/2010, at 11:25 PM, Grant Christensen wrote: Hi all, Somewhat new to cocoa (Mac even) development, and I have a UI layout question that I am hoping to get some opinions on. I have a single window application that contains both a toolbar and a bottom bar. The application periodically goes off and reads some data from a remote server. This is a process that may take up to five seconds, and I don't want to make the user pause while it is occuring, so don't want to pop up a sheet with a status or similar. My first thought was to put a label in the bottom bar saying something like: retrieving from server xxx, and also have a progress indicator. However the apple UI guidelines state not to use any controls in the bottom bar. Can you think of any other Mac standard ways to show progress in a non obtrusive mannor? Just the status label alone may not be sufficient as there would be no way to see if the process has stalled. Thanks for any suggestions Grant Christensen___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/grantch%40bigpond.net.au This email sent to gran...@bigpond.net.au --- Grant Christensen ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
